Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[kikaru]

Game&Watch w/ R.O.B.

 

[Bajef8]

Problem is that ur theory is not supported by that article. it tells us that he does ask who is relevant now and who's popular. never once does it say that he has any intention of removing a character in order to fit that one in

I said Sakurai goes to them for advice on which new Pokemon to add, which the article says. Meaning he always adds a fresh, current Pokemon. Here-in comes my theory of perhaps he always "refreshes" that new current Pokemon rep, by dumping the old one, which is what happened to Mewtwo in favor of Lucario. Meaning my theory is saying that will happen again. Not sure what's so hard to figure out here :/

 

[mimgrim]

I goota say Link W/ Navi just so we can here the anooying HEY! LITEN! all over again, and it would be a good nod to OoT. o.o

 

[FlareHabanero]

It seems like if a new (note the keyword) Pokemon is included, it's going to be the prospective of potential over popularity.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Ganondorf with Master Hand and Crazy Hand.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I said Sakurai goes to them for advice on which new Pokemon to add, which the article says. Meaning he always adds a fresh, current Pokemon. Here-in comes my theory of perhaps he always "refreshes" that new current Pokemon rep, by dumping the old one, which is what happened to Mewtwo in favor of Lucario. Meaning my theory is saying that will happen again. Not sure what's so hard to figure out here :/

It depend's how many character's do you have for Pokemon, if Pokemon Trainer counts as 1 character? Because if you have 4 I'm okay with you replacing Lucario but, if you have 5 I'm not.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

I goota say Link W/ Navi just so we can here the anooying HEY! LITEN! all over again, and it would be a good nod to OoT. o.o

Maybe Fi vs Navi, driving Link crazy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44_liChB7d0

 

[3Bismyname]

I said Sakurai goes to them for advice on which new Pokemon to add, which the article says. Meaning he always adds a fresh, current Pokemon. Here-in comes my theory of perhaps he always "refreshes" that new current Pokemon rep, by dumping the old one, which is what happened to Mewtwo in favor of Lucario. Meaning my theory is saying that will happen again. Not sure what's so hard to figure out here :/

no i know what ur saying. its just not supported by the article as all it says is that he asks them who's popular atm. and atm, Lucario is still very popular. more so than any candidates of the newest gen outside of Mewtwo. theres just no reason to assume that he would drop a character who was well liked in Brawl and is still very relevant to the series in order to add a character who is not as big a deal as he was/is. im just saying that the article does not support your theory as well as you'd like it too.

 

[Deleted member]

I didn't say there wa sa pattern there, I said it seems like there is going to be a pattern there (i.e. a chance of a pattern happening). And if I'm not mistaken just because their is data of Roy in there doesn't mean he was planned as, if I'm not mistaken, Brawl when first showed was using the Melee engine so it could have jsut been left over Melee data. So as far as I know there is no way to know for syure if he was planned or was jsut left overs, as it could be either. Technically aside from the characters shown no character is a shoe-in into the game, but of a new FE rep he has the best chance. FEA is not only the newest FE game but was also very highly succesful and saved FE altoghether, as the was a good chance FEA was going to be the last FE game but it's sales allowed it to keep on going. Chrom is the lord and main character of FEA making him have the highest chance to get in. Sure Robin and Lucina might have a decent chance but not as good as Chrom.

Sakurai said that there were many characters he planned to have in SSBB but couldn't get in due to time constraints. Therefore, it's reasonable to think that Roy was planned to be in the game and was worked on, but Sakurai did not have enough time to bring him back. Roy and Mewtwo also had the most data out of any of the Forbidden Seven; which further support the theory that they were late cuts.

As for an Awakening rep, I don't think one is as likely as people think. Recentness as best gets a character noticed but it won't directly contribute to a character's inclusion. We can't even prove that being the most recent lord was the reason why Ike got in.

Sales don't really matter. Sakurai has said nothing in regards to sales contributing to a character's inclusion. Also note that Ike got in Brawl and his games bombed in Japan. As for saving the franchise, I can see where people come from here, but Awakening did not save the franchise by having an incredible protagonist but because of the contents of the game.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Why can't we just have Robin as our Awakening rep? He'd represent much more than Chrom would.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Why can't we just have Robin as our Awakening rep? He'd represent much more than Chrom would.

I would still say both added alongside Marth.

Also Robin is both male and female (you pick the gender).

 

[Opossum]

What potential characters (newcomers or veterans) do you think would have "codec moments" (the ability to talk to characters)?

A few I can think of are:

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-Mewtwo/Awakened Mewtwo w/ Mew

So...every conversation is essentially going to be like this?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

So...every conversation is essentially going to be like this?

Exactly, you understand Mewtwo but won't understand what Mew is saying.

Will be humerous to see Mewtwo responding to stuff we can't even understand.

 

[mimgrim]

Sakurai said that there were many characters he planned to have in SSBB but couldn't get in due to time constraints. Therefore, it's reasonable to think that Roy was planned to be in the game and was worked on, but Sakurai did not have enough time to bring him back. Roy and Mewtwo also had the most data out of any of the Forbidden Seven; which further support the theory that they were late cuts.

As for an Awakening rep, I don't think one is as likely as people think. Recentness as best gets a character noticed but it won't directly contribute to a character's inclusion. We can't even prove that being the most recent lord was the reason why Ike got in.

Sales don't really matter. Sakurai has said nothing in regards to sales contributing to a character's inclusion. Also note that Ike got in Brawl and his games bombed in Japan. As for saving the franchise, I can see where people come from here, but Awakening did not save the franchise by having an incredible protagonist but because of the contents of the game.

I'm still not convinced on the first part and I doubt either of use will be able to convince each other on that topic anyway. So lets just agree to disagree on that part. I would like to point out we can't disprove it either, and to me it makes the most sense out of other reasons. Sure sales don't matter BUT the fact that Awekning saved the FE series and with it being the most recent title, it is very likely to get some kind of a rep. I find Chrom to be the most likely one, regardless if he replaces Ike or not, as he is the main protaginist of the game and he quite certainly has the popularity down as he was voted to eb the best Male from his game and, if I'm not mistaken, he has become one of the more popular lords compare to others. So he might not be a guaranteed shoe-in, but that basically applies to every character not revealed yet also, be he is the most likely of them all.

 

[Bajef8]

no i know what ur saying. its just not supported by the article as all it says is that he asks them who's popular atm. and atm, Lucario is still very popular. more so than any candidates of the newest gen outside of Mewtwo. theres just no reason to assume that he would drop a character who was well liked in Brawl and is still very relevant to the series in order to add a character who is not as big a deal as he was/is. im just saying that the article does not support your theory as well as you'd like it too.

I didn't ever say it supports my theory, I said it's a source (even though this is how I thought Pokemon reps were picked before this interview, but alas, had no proof until now) I used to base my personal decisions & thoughts on.

And no reason to assume a Lucario cut, however, did you expect a Mewtwo cut? Mewtwo was and is still one of the most popular Pokemon (which I'd bet is a reason GameFreak made him relevant again), more so than Lucario I'm sure.

Bottom line, don't be shocked if he were to be cut from the game as it's a logical possibility. That's literally my entire point.

 

[3Bismyname]

I didn't ever say it supports my theory, I said it's a source (even though this is how I thought Pokemon reps were picked before this interview, but alas, had no proof until now) I used to base my personal decisions & thoughts on.

And no reason to assume a Lucario cut, however, did you expect a Mewtwo cut? Mewtwo was and is still one of the most popular Pokemon (which I'd bet is a reason GameFreak made him relevant again), more so than Lucario I'm sure.

Bottom line, don't be shocked if he were to be cut from the game as it's a logical possibility. That's literally my entire point.

i 100% thought Mewtwo would get cut personally. but thats just me

 

[Bajef8]

i 100% thought Mewtwo would get cut personally. but thats just me

Then you should expect Lucario to be cut by that logic seeing as Mewtwo was the freshie, and Lucario was the last freshie. But you're entitled to your opinion.

I think if Pokemon gets only 4 reps, then Lucario will be cut in favor of the next newbie (personally I think Mewtwo). But if they get 5, my money's on Pikachu, Jiggs, PKMN Trainer, Lucario, and Mewtwo. As much as I seem in favor, of cuts, I'm really not, and I know Sakurai doesn't like them either. So let's hope for the latter situation I proposed. I guess I'm just too negative.

 

[mimgrim]

How does Zoroak compare to them in popularity? o.o

 

[3Bismyname]

Then you should expect Lucario to be cut by that logic seeing as Mewtwo was the freshie, and Lucario was the last freshie. But you're entitled to your opinion.

I think if Pokemon gets only 4 reps, then Lucario will be cut in favor of the next newbie (personally I think Mewtwo). But if they get 5, my money's on Pikachu, Jiggs, PKMN Trainer, Lucario, and Mewtwo. As much as I seem in favor, of cuts, I'm really not, and I know Sakurai doesn't like them either. So let's hope for the latter situation I proposed. I guess I'm just too negative.

see thats the thing. if there was only 4 characters allowed. then sure drop Lucario for Mewtwo. makes sense. however i doubt they would limit Pokemon to 4 reps cause it has the room to grow and the series can warrant it.

How does Zoroak compare to them in popularity? o.o

not as good. still probably one the most well received Pokemon of his gen. but is outshined by Lucario and Mewtwo. I know Mewtwo is in the top 10 most popular pokemon, Lucario is in the 30s and Zoroark i believe is in the 60s.

http://www.ign.com/top/pokemon/100 heres a list. probably not the best as i cant find the Official Nintendo list but its pretty similar

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Do you mean like developing a whole new team? Or just swapping the Red model for Blue? The original starter Pokemon are not important to anything other than Red/Blue or later Fire Red and Leaf Green. Just because they were first... does not make them important. That is probably just your nostalgia speaking. I feel the same way personally. However, I will not allow nostalgia to cloud my judgement.

Except Charizard.

It's not based on Nostalgia it's based on popularity like Jigglypuff. Otherwise they would have had the trainer from Diamon/Pearl in Brawl, but they didn't. And what I'm taking about is there should be a Male Trainer from Red/Blue and also an unlockable Female Trainer from Either Gold/Silver or X/Y.

Example: you start out with the Trainer from Brawl who has Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard. Then you would unlock a Trainer with Totodile, Bayleef, and Typlosion. (Or from a different gen.)

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Assuming we could get Costumes or Alt. Outfits, how do you guys think they will be implemented in the game? Any ideas for some?

 

[TheTuninator]

"Codec moments", you say?

Andy or Sami absolutely should have the ability to talk to Nell, since she is constantly popping in to give them battle tips in the AW games.

Doing this one in codec fashion would be a bit harder to justify, but Little Mac should definitely have the ability to talk to Doc Louis about his opponents. Maybe they change the format and he shouts a conversation from the outside of the ring?

I hope we get a lot more easter eggs like the Star Fox and Snake codes. Those were really cool. More character interactions with their specific stages would be awesome.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Making a new roster

Can't add Leif because people want Roy (Even though he has the sword of Light)
Can't add Roy because Ike makes up for it.
Can't add Chrom because he doesn't differ from Marth at all.
Can't add Eirika because there are other more wanted reps.
Can't add Michaih because we have Zelda & Matthew/Issac
Can't add Lyn because she has similar moves to Ike and you'd have to have Roy and she doesn't seem too likely anyway.
Can't add Lucina because you'd have to have Chrom and neither differ from Marth
Can't add Robin because you might as well have Chrom and it seems unlikely
Can't add Anna because she's not a playable or likely character (not counting DLC)

I'm down to Leif, Roy, Eirika, Roy & Chrom. But, I feel there needs to be a female.

WHAT DO I DO!

 

[mimgrim]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zY8EoXDCk0Y These exact people should get into Smash, not the charatcer they are RPing but the cthe actual people doing the RPing... With those costumes. Like totally.

Making a new roster

Can't add Leif because people want Roy (Even though he has the sword of Light)
Can't add Roy because Ike makes up for it.
Can't add Chrom because he doesn't differ from Marth at all.
Can't add Eirika because there are other more wanted reps.
Can't add Michaih because we have Zelda & Matthew/Issac
Can't add Lyn because she has similar moves to Ike and you'd have to have Roy and she doesn't seem too likely anyway.
Can't add Lucina because you'd have to have Chrom and neither differ from Marth
Can't add Robin because you might as well have Chrom and it seems unlikely
Can't add Anna because she's not a playable or likely character (not counting DLC)

I'm down to Leif, Roy, Eirika, Roy & Chrom. But, I feel there needs to be a female.

WHAT DO I DO!

How is Chrom like Marth? ._. I understand it with Lucina, but chrom is nothing like Marth. Chrom isn't even a clone of Marth in battle in FEA like Lucina is. Chrom uses allot more jumping, and his attacks seem to generally hits heavier visually then Marth or Lucina in FEA. I just don't see who you get to that...And Anna is playable in FEA, and it's not through DLC... Have you actually played FEA? That last thing you say about Anna is what makes me question if you have played FEA or not... :/

 

[BluePikmin11]

Assuming we could get Costumes or Alt. Outfits, how do you guys think they will be implemented in the game? Any ideas for some?

It won't be for customization.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

How is Chrom like Marth? ._. I understand it with Lucina, but chrom is nothing like Marth. Chrom isn't even a clone of Marth in battle in FEA like Lucina is. Chrom uses allot more jumping, and his attacks seem to generally hits heavier visually then Marth or Lucina in FEA. I just don't see who you get to that...And Anna is playable in FEA, and it's not through DLC... Have you actually played FEA? That last thing you say about Anna is what makes me question if you have played FEA or not... :/

Looks like, Marth, same sword as Marth, is decendant of Marth, Marth can jump in SSB too.

Anna is not popular enough to be a playable character over others in SSB

 

[3Bismyname]

Assuming we could get Costumes or Alt. Outfits, how do you guys think they will be implemented in the game? Any ideas for some?

the way i would like it to be implemented is that after defeating the classic/arcade w.e mode u unlock the costume for the character u beat it with. as such each character has one costume in the game and possibly more through dlc

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Can't add Lyn because she has similar moves to Ike and you'd have to have Roy and she doesn't seem too likely anyway.

Can't add Anna because she's not a playable or likely character (not counting DLC)

Just to correct you here.

Lyn can't do the things Ike can and vice versa and Anna is indeed playable outside of DLC. She is a normal recruitable unit in Awakening.

And if you want a safe FE roster, Marth, Ike and Roy OR Marth, Ike and Chrom seem to be the safest bets. It's just up to you who you think is more likely.

 

[mimgrim]

Looks like, Marth, same sword as Marth, is decendant of Marth, Marth can jump in SSB too.

Anna is not popular enough to be a playable character over others in SSB

You're tell me http://fireemblem.neoseeker.com/wiki/File:FE12Marth.png looks like http://www.animecharactersdatabase.com/character.php?id=53800? Seriously? Are you trolling right now? I understand people saying Marth and Lucina being simmalir... but Marth and chrom? really? they both have blue hair and the same sword, that is it. They look completly different, I mean really one is lithe and lean and somewhat feminine looking while the other is brutish muscular and masculine looking.... I just can't believe that you think they look alike.... And again if you had play FEA you would know the Sportpass and DLC Marth don't jump and battle the exact same way Lucina does while chrom does have a jumping attack and atttacks are generally more heavy hitting looking compared to Lucina and Marth. And I was jsut point out the Anna was playable in FEA and it wasn't as DLC but as an actual character in the game.... Seriously... You have to be trolling right now. The only explanation I can think of. ._

 

[Frostwraith]

Comparing Lyn with Ike is already a grave mistake.

Lyn fights with a katana and Ike fights with a zweihänder. Two different types of swords that naturally lead to different combat styles.

It's like comparing potatoes with bananas.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Comparing Lyn with Ike is already a grave mistake.

Lyn fights with a katana and Ike fights with a zweihänder. Two different types of swords that naturally lead to different combat styles.

It's like comparing potatoes with bananas.

She had a move similar to Aether and a slash move like Ike. I only said she has SOME moves similar to Ike. She has plenty of uniquness to be her own character. So why can't she be in SSB?

 

[Frostwraith]

She had a move similar to Aether and a slash move like Ike. I only said she has SOME moves similar to Ike. She has plenty of uniquness to be her own character. So why can't she be in SSB?

Similar =/= mutually exclusive.

You said this and I simply can't agree with such statement, because their fighting styles are different as a consequence of having different swords.

Can't add Lyn because she has similar moves to Ike

Ike and Lyn definitely are not mutually exclusive.

As for your question... It's not like she CAN'T be in the game, but there are many Fire Emblem characters and so little spots for them, so it's hard to choose a character from that series, hence the endless debates regarding this series.

I'd be fine with just having Marth, Roy and Ike, but I can't deny there are other good choices out there such as Lyn or Anna.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Comparing Lyn with Ike is already a grave mistake.

Lyn fights with a katana and Ike fights with a zweihänder. Two different types of swords that naturally lead to different combat styles.

It's like comparing potatoes with bananas.

But, if you really think about it, wouldn't somebody wielding a potato fight very similarly to someone with a banana? And, keep this in mind, don't you... peel both of them before you eat them?

I dunno, Frost. Pretty sure your argument is being squished! Mashed, even.
Mmm. Mashed potatoes.

But yeah, I do think Lynn vs. Ike would be about as different as Marth vs. Ike. Especially if she was actually shown wielding both the Manni Katti and Sol Katti at the same time, or perhaps switch between the two.

Boy, we sure do talk about Fire Emblem a lot. I've only played Path of Radiance but I feel like I know every noteworthy FE character in detail.

 

[Frostwraith]

Well, my argument isn't mashed at all. Both potatoes and bananas must be peeled before being eaten, just like how Lyn and Ike wield swords. But that's where the similarities end. In all other aspects, Lyn and Ike are different, much like how potatoes and bananas are different.

Of course, I could have said that Lyn and Ike are as comparable as playing football and finding a cure to cancer. You see, both are activities, but besides that, they're completely different things.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

the way i would like it to be implemented is that after defeating the classic/arcade w.e mode u unlock the costume for the character u beat it with. as such each character has one costume in the game and possibly more through dlc

Yeah, it definitely should be an award. I think one costume as an award would suffice. However, I think they should add costumes as promotions or DLC content. Three or four in DLC costumes eWorld be more than amazing.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Sakurai already said there would be no costumes, did he not?

Takes away from what makes the character a character, something along those lines.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I updated my roster again. I took out Sonic and replaced him with Paulatena. I know it's hard to imagine SSB without Sonic after people have wanted him for so long. But, If Sakurai HAS to remove characters I imagine the ones that aren'r Nintendo might get the boot. I now have Paulatena Just in case (even though I consider Kid Icarus fine with just Pit.) And added Lyn as the Female rep over the assumed Semi-Clone of Marth: Eirika. Lyn is so popular and has SOO much potential. And if we don't get her we should at least get Chrom and that's what's important in my prediction.

Note: The "!" means I predict that character most. And not all DLC characters would be co-existent (obviously.)

Details:

Lyn- She is one of the most popular characters in the series, is a badass female, and has SOOO much Potential.

Ninten - Most of you will disagree on this, and that's totally understandable. But, the reason I have him in is because we have the main protagonist of Mother 2 & 3 I think Sakurai will decide to reboot Ninten, give him a new look and add him to the roster. Other characters have been rebooted from the NES. Pit, Ice Climbers, Takamaru. Luigi use to look more like Mario than Ninten looked like Ness. and look at Roy's new look. Plus Ninten can have his own moves given the variety of PSI powers in the series. PK Beam, Hypnosis, Teleport, Ground, Brainshock, Counter. I consider it to be the next logical step.

Starfy- Starfy has become a recurring Nintendo character and has even had a game released in the west. He has a lot of potential in terms of moves as well. I'd honestly be surprised if he wasn't in SSB4.

Matthew- I think Matthew will get in over Issac for a number of reasons. Dark Dawn was the most recent Golden Sun installment. Most people say he's not a likely character at all and that Issac will no doubt be in his place. Well, Issac being the one is just as likely so don't take the choice of Matthew too personally. When SSB64 came out there were 2 Mother games. Both of their main protagonists were pretty much identical and the same, so logically they just went with the more recent one, plus Mother 2 was the only one released in the west. Although Issac appeared in all 3 titles (even though he was not the main of the third.) and they sold more and had better reception I don't consider Golden Sun to be popular enough for it to really matter which one they choose. And so I put Matthew in the roster because he's more modern and put Issac in the Alt. Choices section as he could just as well be in the game instead. A lot of characters will get in for being more recent. Much like Lucario, Lucas, Ike, and Toon Link.

Eirika- She is the main character of one of the first Western Heroes as well as one of the only main female Protagonsist. I think if Fire Emblem gets 4 reps that at least one of them will be a female hero. There are a lot of females in the series that fans enjoy. I believe that since Eirika is the only one who is a main character that she will make it in. But, we might just get 3 FE reps. If Eirika gets in it's possible she may be a Marth semi-clone, but she has her own uniqueness.

Sheriff- You can't really blame anyone for having him or not having him. He was the first Nintendo game and would be the first Arcade rep in the series (Not counting Mario Bros & DK) He could have a lot of moveset potential as well. I think he's very likely as a retro rep and seems to be a fairly popular candidate.

Shulk- I can't imagine him not being in the game. He would make SUCH a great fighter, and Xenoblade Chronicles was such a big hit. Monolith Soft is even coming out with a new video game for Wii U. Plus it's important that we have a character from a new Nintendo series. I say he's another guaranteed character.

Ridley- I still think it'd be akward and I think a bounty hunter is more likely (nobody's gonna agree with that.) I think Ridley is gonna get in because EVERYBODY wants him. There is so much demand for him. I still don't see it. Although he works better as a boss, he's probably gonna happen.

NeoMew- Not only would we have a new X & Y rep, we'd also be bringing back Mewtwo! One of the two characters people want most in SSB. And Sakurai wouldn't have to bring back an already removed character. If he gets new moves that will be awesome or at least if they get rid of Confusion. Again I say he is guaranteed. And NO he does not transform or is a final smash. Why transform into something that's either the same or More powerful. It's 100% Pointless.

Chrom- My concern is that there isn't too much unique to him. He has the same sword of Marth, similar look, and is a descendent of him. If he had his own elemental sword attacks like Roy and his fire that would help. But, I'm sure Sakurai can think of a moveset for him. Is he guaranteed? Probably.

Takamaru- he is the most likely retro rep. He seemed popular enough to get into Nintendo Land and since people in the west know who he is that adds onto it because he's already popular in Japan.

Little Mac- Another almost guaranteed retro rep. It may be hard coming up with neutral moves that are all fist oriented, but it's not impossible.

Bomberman- Bomberman has only 1 single reason not to be in SSB. Because he was bought out by Konami. But Konami hasn't made any Bomberman titles since and didn't invent bomberman. They just own the rights to him. Bomberman has more of a history with Nintendo than Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man combined. So much he is often mistaken for a Nintendo character himself. He appeared in Nintendo comics, he appeared alongside Wario in a game, he originated on NES and is one of the most famous game characters ever. I think he is the most likely Third-Party rep.

King K. Rool- He's definitely gonna be in it. He's famous, has tons of moves, is the main antagonist of the DK series, and everyone seems to want him. Not appearing in Tropical Freeze doesn't really mean anything.

Paper Mario- Bowser Jr. is just as likely, and if anybody even mentions him in their roster it should count because it's such an obvious choice. I put Paper Mario because I think he is just as likely. I also think there should be a Mario persona and Paper Mario is a requested character with a lot of moves. It's either him, Junior, or Toad.

Paulatena- I personally think Pit is fine on his own, and that it's weird to have a godess. But, she has proven herself in the anime short to not always all-powerful and Sakurai shoved aside Yoshi in the trailer for Pit.

Alternate Choices

Leif (Fire Emblem Series)- Leif appeared in 2 Fire Emblem games on Super Famicom. He seems fairly popular in the FE universe too. The assumption would be that he is a Marth semi-clone and that he uses the element of light with his sword attacks similar to how Roy uses the element of Fire. I guess in SSB it would be translated into Electricity. But, since he looks a lot like Marth and everybody would clearly want Roy instead (which is a better choice.) I did not add him in my roster.

Roy- Roy has been given a new badass look, now people want him more than ever and next to Mewtwo is the most requested character to return. He was a great idea then and people still love him today. I did not include him in my roster because I don't feel I'll be blamed if he appears and I don't have him. I think if Sakurai DOES do DLC he would be a great choice. He better return.

Sylux- I was going to have Sylux in my roster. I had him in the others. But, everybody wants Ridley and he is the most requested. I think it makes more sense to add a Bounty Hunter and keep Ridley a boss. People say it's kind of random, but he's kind of like the Wolf of SSB4. And Sylux does stand out more than the others. He has more of a hatred for Samus and appeared in more games.

Poke'mon Trainer B- If they add a 5th Poke'mon character I think it will be a second Poke'mon Trainer from either Gold/Silver or X/Y. The one in the roster is depicted as Gold/Silver with Totodile, Bayleef, and Typloshion. Plus it would give us an extra 3 Poke'mon. Plus there are so many trainers and pokemon we'd be getting more of both.

Issac- Again, may take the place of Mattew.

Skull Kid- I also believe he will be the 5th Zelda rep if we have one. Majora's Mask is remembered by everyone (and for good reason ). It is one of the most popular Zelda games ever and always will be. It doesn't really matter if it came out that long ago.

Snake- Will he return? I have no idea.

Bowser Jr.- It's a fight between him and Paper Mario, and Toad is in the background hoping.

Dry Bowser- Activated through Final Smash. Whether it will just be for show or have his own moves I do not know. I consider this a guaranteed form.

Sonic- Unlike Snake it's kind of hard to imagine him not being in SSB after he appeared in brawl. Now that I think about if Bomberman appeared that would kind of make up for it. Maybe Bomberman will replace Snake?

Other Possibilities

9-Volt: He owns several Video Game peripherals. He would make a good fighter.

Metal Mario- A special character you can only get after achieving something great in the game after you have all other characters

DLC:

Melee Pack:

Dr. Mario
Pichu
Roy
Mewtwo (If DLC is planned ahead in which case Sakurai may have somebody else on the original Roster.)

Other:

Lucario
Raichu
Sonic
Snake
Metal Mario
Dixie Kong

Also the starter version:

So those are all the characters I predict. I'd love to hear feedback. If you have some problems with some character like Sylux or Ninten that's totally understandable. I'd love to hear what you like or have suggestions for.

 

[Sebz]

Assuming we could get Costumes or Alt. Outfits, how do you guys think they will be implemented in the game? Any ideas for some?

Ooooh I like this topic! Let me throw in some alts that I think would be cool.

Mario:
-Just throw in power up suits for Mario and Luigi such as Tanooki and what have ya.
-Peach get Daisy alt yet again and maybe even a Rosalina one.
-Bowser gets Dry Bowser.

Zelda:
-Link gets dark link again and maybe throw in fierce deity or something.
-Ganondorf could either switch between OoT and TP designs or a Phatom Gannon from both OoT and WW.

Metroid:
-Samus getting all of her suits would be cool.

Pokemon:
-I want a Raichu alt!!!!
-PT gets pokemon skins from different gens.

Mega Man:
-A Bass alt with Treble instead of Rush would make my life.

 

[Ember Reaper]

I am just gone for so long...
On the sales topic though...
Sakurai doesn't seem to comment about it much, but that had to be a big factor for Wii Fit Trainer getting added. Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus are the sixth and seventh best selling wii games. If Wii Fit didn't sell well, it wouldn't have been as recognizable to so many people in the trailer. Not saying everytihng he does is sales, but that character had to be influenced that way because no one was asking for her (as far as I know)

Can't add Leif because people want Roy (Even though he has the sword of Light)
Can't add Roy because Ike makes up for it.
Can't add Chrom because he doesn't differ from Marth at all.
Can't add Eirika because there are other more wanted reps.
Can't add Michaih because we have Zelda & Matthew/Issac
Can't add Lyn because she has similar moves to Ike and you'd have to have Roy and she doesn't seem too likely anyway.
Can't add Lucina because you'd have to have Chrom and neither differ from Marth
Can't add Robin because you might as well have Chrom and it seems unlikely
Can't add Anna because she's not a playable or likely character (not counting DLC)

1. Leif vs. Roy: alright, sure
2. Roy vs. Ike: Sort of I guess?
3. Marth vs. Chrom: Marth is fast and weaker than Chrom, attitude wise they also differ greatly.
4. Eirka vs. Everyone: alright, kinda similar to the Leif thing then?
5. Micaiah vs. irrelevant characters: ...what? micaiah would be a light mage, not an elemental sorceress as zelda is.
6. Lyn vs. Ike: no. Lyn is very fast, swordmasterish. and Ike is a Hero A bit slower and more powerful.
7. Lucina vs. Chrom: yes you would need Chrom, see #3
8. Robin vs. Chrom: yes, but who knows
9. Anna: not likely yes, but playable in awakening.

sorry that bugged me.

 

[Curious Villager]

I am just gone for so long...
On the sales topic though...
Sakurai doesn't seem to comment about it much, but that had to be a big factor for Wii Fit Trainer getting added. Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus are the sixth and seventh best selling wii games. If Wii Fit didn't sell well, it wouldn't have been as recognizable to so many people in the trailer. Not saying everytihng he does is sales, but that character had to be influenced that way because no one was asking for her (as far as I know)

He said that he included her because no one would see her coming as he got many many character requests over the years.

I guess he just wanted a character that no one would think of and toke a look at Wii Fit, saw the Wii Fit Trainer and inspired him with potential ideas as a character.