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you didn't really put a fight much, so I didn't think the quote would match well in this situation,I was totally expecting you to go "You're good, but I'm better!"
That's HIM?!?! That's the clown we've been waiting for *lets go of bar* WOOOOAAAAAAH...*spins around gears*
I wouldnt really expect one till january, last years proved to be quite awesome if you remember.
Garbage. From King Garbage of the Garbage Dynasty.
I agree on pretty much everything. (though I don't know much about Golden Sun, Fire Emblem or Xenoblade)
Excellent post swamp, my thoughts exactly. I have no arguments against this, since this is basically what I think as well.
Am I the only one who got this courage the cowardly dog reference?
Your lack of mention of Goroh and Toad is disturbing. Yeah, they're not very likely, but...just a mention would be nice.
SSB64: 10 franchises
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My responses are in yellow! XDSo....
This may be a deathtrap.... But I'm going to do it anyways!
Just a few thoughts on several of the newcomers / returnees.
Mewtwo: Possibly the most likely character out of this list. Veteran. Importance. Popular around the world. Everything is perfectly aligned for Mewtwo to make his return. The Pokemon Company would have to do some MAJOR interfering (and stupid interfering) for him to be excluded.
I personally think Mewtwo is a shoo-in XD
Roy: A bit trickier than the other likely returnee, Mewtwo. FE characters are very difficuly to predict, but I think it's a lot simpler, than we think. I personally think Roy is dependant on what Sakurai views as most important. If Sakurai thinks fan demand and veteran status is most important, than Roy is the way to go.
Yeah,FE is pretty hard to predict,but personally I don't think Roy will come back,I think he will be in if FE can have 3 characters.
Dr. Mario: A lot more likely than people think, methinks. Doc was planned for Brawl at one point. I think he actually has a decent chance of being the fifth Mario character. Again, I think it depends on what Sakurai thinks is most important. If Sakurai thinks veteran status is most important, I can see Doc getting in over Mario newcomers. It's possible that we could get him as an alt costume though. Depends on whether Sakurai's thought on "fireballs =/= pills" has changed or not.
For me,Dr.Mario=Costume.
Young Link: Not happening. At least, not with Toon Link here. Toon Link (conceptually, at least) can do everything Young Link can do, but better. There would be no point in him. He's also the only character in smash history to be replaced by someone. And frankly, his replacement is a lot more popular, important, etc. Again, no point in him anymore...
NOP.
Pichu: The only character in Smash Brothers history to be downright thrown out. Although I see him as more likely than Young Link, I think it's safe to say that we will never see him again. However, if we get DLC, I think he's a prime candidate.
Yeah,he will be in only as a DLC.
Bowser Jr.: My preferred choice for a Mario newcomer, but I personally have doubts about him. He's important and popular sure, but Toad was that and more... Although I love the little tyke, I don't think we're getting him... He is the most popular of the Mario newcomers though. I think if Sakurai thinks popularity is most important, we'll get him.
For me,the most likely Mario newcomer,but I doubt that we will have one...
Paper Mario: Frankly... I have no idea why people discard the thought of him, so easily. I think he may actually be the most likely Mario newcomer. He's popular, and has stars in an entire sub series. Something no other Mario newcomer can say. While I think it would feel odd to include Jr, over Toad and Waluigi over all of them, I think it would make some lick of sense if Paper Mario got in over Toad. He is Mario after all. I think if Sakurai thinks star power is most important, we'll get Paper Mario.
Personally...no,I don't think he is likely,but it would be AWESOME!
Waluigi: WAAAA! So... I think he's getting in as an AT again. However, the WAA! is pretty darn popular and doesn't show any sign of going anywhere. However, he has a pretty large hatebase... He's a very divisive character. At least in regards to Smash. I suppose Sakurai could include him if he feels having "the plumbers" is important. For completions sake. Not a likely mindset by any means, but I suppose it's possible.
I'm a part of his large hatebase XD ,so...AT!
King K. Rool: Personally, the choices for DK are almost as hard as FE. Both Dixie and King K. Rool have a lot going for them. A lot of the time, people choose one over the other out of preference. Both have a lot of popularity and importance. Both have a lot of star power. Again I think it just comes down to what Sakurai thinks is most important. If Sakurai thinks popularity and uniqueness is most important, I think he'll choose K.Rool.
K.Rool=Dixie...except that Dixie was planned for Brawl and now she has muh recency...so...Dixie is more likely for me.
Dixie Kong: As stated before, I think she and King K have a lot in common. Dixie was planned for Brawl though. If Sakurai wants to revisit his old ideas, then we may very well get Dixie. However, unlike FE, I do think that DK is big enough and that both characters are big enough that we may get two DK newcomers. I don't find it very likely, but it's definitely a possibility. Dixie could also be an easy semiclone if Sakurai is pressed for time, but I think he respects the character too much for that.
Is a shoo-in IMO.
Kamek: Oh Kamek! You're so cool! Too bad I doubt you're gonna be in Smash 4. However... I think it's entirely possible for Kamek to be in the next one. He's getting a LOT of roles recently. Nintendo is finally remembering him and it makes me happy. Hopefully, in Smash 5, he can be seen as a real contender!
I will be Shy Guy supporter forever!...
I think Kamek is unlikely XD
Toon Zelda / Toon Sheik / Tetra: A character with a lot on controversy... She was planned for Brawl. Which says a lot actually. Sakurai actually considered her and possibly considered making a completely original character in Toon Sheik. Honestly, I'm not sure what to say about her, other than she has a chance. I dunno. She could be an easy character to develop if pressed for time, but I'm not sure Sakurai will be in that situation.
The most likely Zelda newcomer IMO,I don't think we will have one.
Tingle: KOOLIMPAH! This is an interesting character. Do not steal him. Tingle, like Waluigi, has a hatebase, and a BIG one at that. However, unlike Waluigi, Tingle is a very important character in the Zelda series. And has even starred in his own series. His inclusion would turn a few heads but at the same time is pretty logical considering his importance...
I hate him,but...unlike Waluigi,he has chances.
Ridley: Ridley is an interesting characters. One of the most important and popular characters left. He has a large amount of star power, especially compared to his competition. The only characters that can compare to his star power are Pac-Man, Mewtwo, K.Rool, Dixe, Mario characters and arguably Little Mac. He's got a lot going for him, so why isn't he considered a shoo-in? Possibly because he's one of the most controversial characters yet. Is he too big? Is he a stage hazard? Is he a boss again? Is he finally playable? Frankly, it's a crap shoot. He could be anything. The only thing we can really do at this point is wait and see.
Hazards,Boss,Cracks and holes! AAAAAH!...I don't know.
Bandana Dee: The most likely Kirby newcomer. By far. He's popular, important and downright adorable. However, the demand for a Kirby newcomer is pretty low. Many people view the series as complete with Kirby, Meta Knight, and King Dedede. I don't think we'll see him this time around. However, he's one of those characters that could be a good choice for the next game.
Shoo-in ...well ok... I think he is the most likely Kirby newcomer and is likely,we will need to wait for 2 things: Dedede's reveal (he can be part of Dedede's moveset.) and Kirby Triple Deluxe,if Bandana Dee is in that game,that would mean ...He is an important part of Kirby games and a staple in the series...and if he isn't in Smash 4 ,he will be a shoo-in for Smash 5.
Krystal: Another divisive character. She's a lot like Bandana Dee actually. Popular and important she's a pretty wanted character. However, she has the same problem Bandana Dee has. Many people view Starfox as complete and most don't want Falco or Wolf to leave and I doubt Sakurai will cut either of them. I think she'll sit this one out personally. Maybe, if Starfox gets more games and she stays important we could see her in Smash 5.
Bandana Dee with boobs and a part of a very little franchise.
I think Bandana Dee is more likely,but I think Krystal has chances.
Palutena: The only likely choice for a Kid Icarus newcomer. No Medusa. No Magnus (WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP INSISTING HE'S A SHOO-IN!?!?!). She's popular around the world, important and has little to no competition or problems with her inclusion. I think she has a pretty likely chance of being included. Some people say Sakurai's humbleness will keep her out, but I doubt it.
Yeah,is she or nothing.
Medusa...XD
Magnus... XDDDD
Chrom:Oh... boy.... Chrom. Well, I think he's about as likely as Roy. He's popular (though not as much Roy), important and is marketed a lot. He and Lucina are even getting skins in Monster Hunter. DO YOU REALIZE HOW HUGE THAT IS?!?! It's the equviliant of GTA over in Japan. Frankly, I think that Sakurai will choose Chrom if he thinks marketability and recency (it plays a part, don't say it means nothing) are most important.
Pretty likely IMO.
My Unit / Avatar / Robin: A bit of a surprise choice. There's not much reason to add Robin over Roy or Chrom sadly. However, I do think that Sakurai might add him if he finds uniqueness important.
Yeah...no. XD
Little Mac: Practically confirmed. That boxing ring man. It's obviously Punch Out!! inspired. Combine that with the facts that he's incredibly popular and important and you got yourself the only character we can call a shoo-in.
Confirmed! XD
Isaac: A character I'm not sure where his chances lie... He's pretty popular in the west and Golden Sun has quite the legacy... but Sakurai could easily overlook his series. I'm just gonna go and say 50-50.
I think he has great chances,or at least,better chances than Shulk IMO.
Shulk: Like Isaac, I'm not sure... He's got a chance yeah.... I think I'm gonna say 50-50 for him too. His case is pretty similar to Isaac.
Yeah,is likely.
Takamaru: If we're getting a retro character. It's him. He's the most popular retro choice and probably has the most star power out of all reasonable retro choices. However, I am starting to doubt a retro character in general. I think a condensed roster may really hinder his chances.
The best Retro choice with Lip.
Mii: I think they're incredibly likely. They show up in everything. They're popular (not here, but almost everywhere else) and important being a part of one of Nintendo's main series now. Their implementation may cause problems, but Sakurai will definitely consider them.
Pretty likely,but I hate them...
Pac-Man: The only new 3rd party character we're gonna get. He's the only real legendary character left. Namco helping may get him noticed but ultimately its up to whether Sakurai thinks he's worth it.
Same as Mii.
My thoughts on things. Please tell me what you think. I can elaborate as well, if you wish.
EDIT: I really would like to hear your thoughts guys. I don't want just likes...
What about Golden Sun?SSB64: 10 franchises
Mario
Donkey Kong
Zelda
Metroid
Yoshi
Kirby
Star Fox
Pokemon
F-Zero
Mother
Melee: 3 franchises
Ice Climber
Fire Emblem
Game & Watch
Brawl: 4 Nintendo franchises + 2 third-party franchises (6 franchises total)
Kid Icarus
Wario
Pikmin
R.O.B.
Metal Gear
Sonic
SSB4: 2 Nintendo franchises + 1 third-party franchises (3 franchises total FOR NOW)
Animal Crossing
Wii Fit
Mega Man
I still think we might get at least 4 more new franchises but I would be happy if we got a total of 10 new franchises. The first five franchises listed below are the most likely (in my opinion) and the last two franchises listed are unlikely and are purely biased choices of mine but they still have a small chance of happening.
Punch-Out!!
Mysterious Murasame Castle
Wii Sports
Xenoblade Chronicles
Pac-Man
Duck Hunt (what else did you expect from me?
Wars (it's got 12 games spanning from the NES to the Wii and it still doesn't have a character? it's mind-boggling)
I only picked those franchises because they are first-party Nintendo franchises, not second-party Nintendo franchises. With the sole exception of Pokemon (it is second-party) and obviously third-party franchises, Sakurai tends to favor first-party Nintendo franchises.
I expect at least a few characters from unrepresented franchises
Well we will 3 more franchises represented after Little-Pac-Miis are revealed. That will be 6 new franchises represented total. I think we'll have more franchises represented.
But remember, we have to take in account that they celebrate a non religious Christmas out there, kinda like i do
Relligious Christmas is funny because...
Well, I don't think we're done with unlockables. I just feel that maybe they'll reveal unlockables before the game releases. I am still fully confident that Luigi, Marth, and Toon Link will be unlockable.
I liked because Animaniacs.
Well I mean, there are Christmas trees in Animal Crossing, so...
It is second-party.
But Kirby is second party too.
Yes, but not that many people do.
Edit: I am determined to have the first post on page 1500. Bring it on suckers, I've got all day.
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well now I saw the perfect moment to spread my favorite quote
so anyway what's the topic mates?
Easily Hades.
Huh, you learn something new everyday.
well for a kid Icarus character over Palutena, the only one that I can think of that I want more than her, and actually has more importance to the series than a lot of other characters, is dark pit, luckily I'll still get him one way or another as an alt. costume
Sakurai bias, what else?
Not that Kirby and friends wouldn't have made it in anyway.
well for a kid Icarus character over Palutena, the only one that I can think of that I want more than her, and actually has more importance to the series than a lot of other characters, is dark pit, luckily I'll still get him one way or another as an alt. costume
as for a random Pokémon, has to be eevee
He parties pretty hard sometimes. But that's why he's called Rockman. Megaman is just that kind of robot.
A few things they left out: In Jewish tradition, it is customary to celebrate death-days instead of birthdays, and since the earliest days of the church, Christmas--or Jesus' death day--was traditionally celebrated around that time on the Lunar Calendar.
