Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Shorts]

Maybe people expecting Skull Kid on the roster to begin with are ********?

Why?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Project M just released, yay

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Project M just released, yay

I still can't get in tho..... ah well i can wait. ah nvm I see the facebook link :D yay, thx FE.

Also I know who my enemies are....

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Maybe people expecting Skull Kid on the roster to begin with are ********?

Why?

Well, now they are, since the Skull Kid with Majora's Mask has already been revealed as an AT.

.... xP

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[N3ON]

Why?

Because a rigged fan poll and some limited collateral support doesn't have the importance people thought it would. If Skull Kid were to be included, it would've happened long before Smash 4. Unless he starts making major appearances again (and not just in remakes), his time has passed.

 

[SchAlternate]

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Project M just released, yay

BRB DOWNLOADING LIKE A MUTHERFACKER

 

[Shorts]

Oh i forgot you guys know everything. Kind of like how we had a five character reveal at E3. Where Ridley, Takamaru, Mewtwo, Toad, and Megaman were revealed. You know how AC was a character that was deconfirmed? And how anyone who expected WFTrainer would have been laughed at.

You're right, you guys got this prediction thing down.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Yup, let's start expecting a bunch of minor one shot characters that only two people care about.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Oh i forgot you guys know everything. Kind of like how we had a five character reveal at E3. Where Ridley, Takamaru, Mewtwo, Toad, and Megaman were revealed. You know how AC was a character that was deconfirmed? And how anyone who expected WFTrainer would have been laughed at.

You're right, you guys got this prediction thing down.

Yep. We can't read Sakurai's mind. The pattern is that there is no pattern.
So what's the point of predicting in the first place? I guess we should just close this thread already.

Spoiler

 

[Shorts]

Yep. We can't read Sakurai's mind. The pattern is that there is no pattern.
So what's the point of predicting in the first place? I guess we should just close this thread already.

My point is don't call someone ******** for being wrong, when you ALL have been REALLY wrong in the past. Play nice you little assholes.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I still can't get in tho..... ah well i can wait. ah nvm I see the facebook link :D yay, thx FE.

Also I know who my enemies are....

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BRB DOWNLOADING LIKE A MUTHERFACKER

Yea, I was just checking my FB and it just popped up, posted less than 30 seconds ago, and I was like

 

[KingofPhantoms]

The site is currently up, but running slower than it normally does. (for me at least)

No offense to any Skull Kid supporters, but Skull Kid never really had a good chance as a playable character. Since the boards are up and I enjoy discussing Zelda, I guess I'll try and break it down-

While a popular choice for a Smash newcomerr, he had many obstacles in his way. First off, his only truly important role was in Majora's Mask, while a different (probably a different) Skull Kid had a much smaller, though also partially important role in Twilight Princess as he was the one who guided Link through the Sacred Grove, where he would eventually find the Master Sword, and later on, the Temple of Time. (while also playing a cruel game of hide & seek with him) Though his role in the plot overall isn't that important.

Other possible Zelda newcomers get in his way as well. Sakurai believes it's important to have a child version of Link in Smash, and once considered adding Toon Zelda as well and even worked on her a bit in Brawl. Whether Sakurai considered her unnecessary shortly before release or time constraints got in her way, she is still a possibility this time around as he may wish to give her a second shot. She is surprisingly a fairly popular character, though certainly not comparable to many other possible newcomeres (Ridley, K. Rool, Little Mac, Shulk, Palutena and many others) in term of popularity. Tetra, who could either be her own character or as a transformation for TZ, is also a decently popular possible Zelda newcomer, and one with potential to be unique as well.

Tingle is also surprisingly popular around here, though the amount of hate he gets from America overall gets in his way. Still, he has potential, has a partially important role in Wind Waker (he is needed to decipher the Triforce Charts) and even has a few spin-offs of his own. While widely disliked in America, he is a rather popular character in Japan.

There are other possible (though in my opinion, less likely) characters such as Vaati and Impa, though I'm not gonna get into details on them.

At this point Sakurai may feel the Zelda series should simply not have any more characters, at least, not at this time around, which wouldn't be very surprising to me. Personally, I don't think Zelda needs another character, but I don't think a Zelda newcomer would be unecessary either. If anything, it'd be a bonus.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Yea, I was just checking my FB and it just popped up, posted less than 30 seconds ago, and I was like

IKR? btw love dat metafree. Anyways i'm gonna go play now, enjoy your predicting gents.

 

[Gunla]

Well, I just lost my hype for tonight with 3.0. See you guys later, I'm playing that!

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Yea, I was just checking my FB and it just popped up, posted less than 30 seconds ago, and I was like

Oh crashboards.... your still awesome even tho you do dis to me.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Majora is probably the most requested LoZ character outside of the four already in Smash. Seeing him as an AT makes me wonder why he was placed as one?

Because requests mean nothing when you're not important enough to your series.

I believe he was included because of this popularity, no doubt. But why would he not be playable? Was his popularity shown too late (Like through fan polls / sites) in development?

Popularity! Popularity! Popularity! I don't understand! I'm using all the popularity I have and it still isn't working! Should I get more popularity!? Quick, try the requests!

does he actually have a more specific criteria than we thought

What's this WE stuff? You fed him the tainted patty! To answer your question: YES. Sakurai has more specific criteria beyond requests and popularity. Such as potential and importance.

I PROMISE we will see the top 20 newcomers put in Smash 4 somehow. Playable or not

Don't break that promise now.

Unless MM3D is going to be revealed soon, there is no other real "reason" behind adding him other than people think he's cool.

Right, because Skull Kid being the second most iconic Zelda villian and Majora's Mask being a very popular classic wasn't a real reason to add this character as an Assist Trophy.

 

[N3ON]

I wasn't aware that people not predicting everything perfectly was cause for justifying any character thereafter.

There's still a reason predicting some characters is seen as more legitimate than others, because for every unexpected (but not illogical) addition, there are several that actually were expected by a significant amount of people. Sure Skull Kid wasn't impossible, but was pretty illogical. He was a one-time major character with his only big role being pre-Melee, with popularity localized mostly to the west and largely composed of troll votes that were submitted to Sakurai via a source he probably gets literally thousands of requests from.

At least Villager and WFT have pretty obvious reasons for inclusion that amount to more than just "at first glace he seems to be popular here", even if they were unexpected. Which for the former was only due to Sakurai himself.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Since the boards are back up, I suppose this is a good celebration: I made this Special Roster today. Rather than adding just the characters that will make the final cut, I added all the characters I think will most likely be planned from the getco. So without further ado, here is that roster.
DISLCAIMER: I don't predict the final roster will be 50. This is just what I think the plan will be.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Crashboards better stay up.

 

[Cobalsh]

I be thinking that if we get a Zelda newcomer, it'll be Toon Zelda/Tetra, or Tingle. Phantoms is right, she's pretty popular and Tetra has lots of potential. TZ will end up being a clone though. On the subject of Cranky, a Reggie Trainer with Bandana Dee, Cranky, and Rosalina. Final Smash: Readies their bodies. Check sob's picture on the previous page.

...

You like that, don't you?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

It always means a lol when I get such positive feedback/likes for my rosters. I love you guys. Murry Crustmaz!

Crashboards

"...I See what you did there..."

 

[N3ON]

Since the boards are back up, I suppose this is a good celebration: I made this Special Roster today. Rather than adding just the characters that will make the final cut, I added all the characters I think will most likely be planned from the getco. So without further ado, here is that roster.
DISLCAIMER: I don't predict the final roster will be 50. This is just what I think the plan will be.

I'd get rid of any character from a new series you think will be planned but not implemented in the finalized version. There's very little precedent of Sakurai cutting an entire series when axing planned characters. Look at the Forbidden 7, none of them were from new series. Probably because of the extra effort Sakurai goes to when including new series. If he plans them initially, they're likely to stick.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I'm pretty sure I hope if we even get a Zelda newcomer it will be Tingle

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'd get rid of any character from a new series you think will be planned but not implemented in the finalized version. There's very little precedent of Sakurai cutting an entire series when axing planned characters. Look at the Forbidden 7, none of them were from new series. Probably because of the extra effort Sakurai goes to when including new series. If he plans them initially, they're likely to stick.

I don't think any planned series won't be implemented.

 

[N3ON]

I don't think any planned series won't be implemented.

Then keep it the way it is. Nine is a little high though.

 

[Shorts]

I wasn't aware that people not predicting everything perfectly was cause for justifying any character thereafter.

Wow, understatement of the year. You mean predicted everything wrong, except Megaman? You know, character amount, as well as choices. And say what you want, but your "logical" way of thinking would have deducted WFT wasn't a "logical" choice regardless of how well Wii Fit did. And you can't be more "ILLOGICAL" than to predict a character who was told wouldn't be in Smash because he can't fight. Why should I trust what you think is "logical" when prior to said reveal what most people predicted WAS logical. You all don't know ****, which is totally fine. I don't have a problem with people not knowing ****. My E3 reveal was just as wrong. It's when you predict something, and it's almost completely wrong, and then you call someone ******** for getting predicting a single character wrong (no matter how "illogical" it was) you gotta just step back and think about what you're saying.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Then keep it the way it is. Nine is a little high though.

10. And yeah I know that's a lot of new series. Nine was a lot even before. There's always going to be something wrong in my rosters. All I can do is ignore it. Fixing will only create another equally big if not bigger problem. It's not like fixing that will make my roster 100% accurate.

(Not that I'm being lazy. I work my ass of to make these rosters the best they can be.)

 

[Autumn ♫]

I think when it comes to Zelda, we can all be in an agreement that Vaati is the best choice for a new character.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I think when it comes to Zelda, we can all be in an agreement that Vaati is the best choice for a new character.

I have to agree with this wholeheartedly.

 

[BKupa666]

*glances at Skull Kid vs. WFT/Villager discussion* The smell of false equivalence is in the air...

 

[SuperBrawler]

I think when it comes to Zelda, we can all be in an agreement that Vaati is the best choice for a new character.

*cricket cricket*

Of course I am kidding, Vaati is awesome.

 

[Sobreviviente]

GOMEZ FOR SMASH!!!!!!!!!

 

[FlareHabanero]

No new The Legend of Zelda character for Super Smash Bros. 4

Come on, it's what's going to happen.

 

[Chandeelure]

What's happening? Sakurai is showing pics with moves,items and interesting things!
Where are my Luigi's nose and WFT's butt pics?!

 

[BKupa666]

What's happening? Sakurai is showing pics with moves,items and interesting things!
Where are my Luigi's nose and WFT's butt pics?!

He's saving those to post in response to the inevitable "NEWCOMER ON CHRISTMAS" hype train that will begin manifesting itself shortly, if it hasn't already.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'm sorry, but the coolest Zelda newcomer imaginable (after Skull Kid) is simply Varen. No contest.

 

[Gune]

I think when it comes to Zelda, we can all be in an agreement that Vaati is the best choice for a new character.

Yup.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Purple Link for Smash. Because he's purple.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Purple Link for Smash. Because he's purple.

But he's already in Brawl

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Purple Link for Smash. Because he's purple.

I LOVE BEING PURPLE!!!!!!!