Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Johnknight1]

You see, dissing Sticker Star is something I'm used to (even though I actually enjoyed it), but Super Paper Mario had an incredible story that could easily rival (and probably top) that of TTYD. It's one of my favorite games, and all those TTYD fanboys should stop putting it down.
Not that I consider you one, you seem really cool, it just ticks me off.

I didn't say Super Paper Mario was a bad game (I enjoyed it, but not as much as the first two). What I said is that it is a spin-off IMO.

If we are really going to begin talking about series that are complete, I can rattle off a couple well before we hit Mario.

How about instead we talk about characters who are relevant and have incredible moveset, playstyle, and skillset potential, unlike the dozens of garbage Mario characters that have threads on SWF.

Popularity and importance gets you considered as a playable character, but ultimately, the most unique and functional characters in regards to playstyle, skillset, and moveset end up being playable.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

You see, dissing Sticker Star is something I'm used to (even though I actually enjoyed it), but Super Paper Mario had an incredible story that could easily rival (and probably top) that of TTYD. It's one of my favorite games, and all those TTYD fanboys should stop putting it down.
Not that I consider you one, you seem really cool, it just ticks me off.

The main gimmick of the game was the most broken part. The Stickers and removal of EXP points defeats the purpose of fighting entirely and takes stuff away from you.

If Hades was more recurring in future KI titles, you would be convinced to add him instead of Medusa.

But, he's not. So we're not.

Skyward Sword is better than Minish Cap

 

[Hotfeet444]

No, you are. I've been saying that this whole time! You literally proceeded to do so in the rest of that reply. Lucario's game and movie made him important AND more so popular. Now shut you're ****ing face if you actually, honest to god misinterpreted that I'M the one confusing popularity for importance and try harder next time.

Shut my ****ing face? Kid, shut your mouth and sit in the corner. Learn to respect your elders and try to actually WIN the next argument, I'll just live in reality and know that Mewtwo is both more popular and important.

Reply again and you're going a month with no food.

How do you know they had no choice? If they wanted, Mewtwo would've been in the Tower over Lucario, they just wouldn't have given it to you before after-game. Really, I don't get this logic, you can't say "Yeah, A happened, but B could've happened so it doesn't matter." The fact of the matter is Lucario is more important to XY's in-game storyline regardless, that's not arguable. You can say all you like that "it's the best next choice" or "they had no choice" or whatever, but that's getting into hypotheticals that do not exist as far as we're shown.

Again, what do you expect? He's a legendary pokemon, from another region none-the-less.

 

[Gune]

Like how Lucario could beco:me a future Pokemon that becomes popular? Medusa is the only viable choice after Palutena. She is the most important and she kicked Hades's *** at the end so she'd come back before him.

loved that part she f***** Hades up then.

 

[FlareHabanero]

How about instead we talk about characters who are relevant and have incredible moveset, playstyle, and skillset potential, unlike the dozens of garbage Mario characters that have threads on SWF.

NO JOHN WE MUST ONLY TALK ABOUT CHARACTERS THAT THE CASUAL SCUM WILL KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE WILL SCARE THE CHILDREN.

So how about that Lip guys?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

You see, dissing Sticker Star is something I'm used to (even though I actually enjoyed it), but Super Paper Mario had an incredible story that could easily rival (and probably top) that of TTYD. It's one of my favorite games, and all those TTYD fanboys should stop putting it down.
Not that I consider you one, you seem really cool, it just ticks me off.

So much this.

SPM had a far better storyline than the prievous two Paper Mario games. I can understand why some people may have preferred the RPG battle style, but you simply cannot deny that SPM had the best plot.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I could try remove Hades for Lucario, but I really think Hades could be a future KI villain that becomes so popular.

I on the other hand, think Hades would be great

you shall serve me in the land of the dead

 

[Louie G.]

For the complete series, here are a few:
Zelda
Kirby
Star Fox

And a few that can be complete after Smash 4:
DK (King K. Rool and Dixie)
Kid Icarus (Palutena)
Metroid (Ridley)

And for the record, Mario can never truly be complete. Too many characters.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

So how about that Lip guys?

It's a cold sore

I on the other hand, think Hades would be great
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you shall serve me in the land of the dead

Excuse me, Hades! DO YOU THINK YOU COULD SPEAK UP A BIT!!!

 

[Arcanir]

Again, what do you expect? He's a legendary pokemon, from another region none-the-less.

And that didn't stop them from letting you get Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, etc. in the in-game storyline. Later yes, but if we're going to throw hypotheticals anyway then the Tower could just as easily been later, or Mewtwo given later in the storyline. Also, there's a higher emphasis on older Pokémon in X and Y, it wouldn't be that surprising if Mewtwo got a strong role in the storyline (even if it concludes post-game).

Regardless, the fact of the matter is Lucario was given a storyline role, that's not going to change no matter how many hypotheticals are thrown around. So in that sense (I'm ignoring advertising since that's a different argument), Lucario is more important.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Shut my ****ing face? Kid, shut your mouth and sit in the corner. Learn to respect your elders and try to actually WIN the next argument, I'll just live in reality and know that Mewtwo is both more popular and important.

You know, me and you never did finish that Roy-Chrom debate we had when we first met, did we?

 

[Bowserlick]

Lip would be good at representing the puzzle genre. Better than Doctor Mario.

Dillon could have a dig mechanic (in a game that is all about movement), and have a strong Western theme. Original in regards to the rest of the cast.

 

[BluePikmin11]

NO JOHN WE MUST ONLY TALK ABOUT CHARACTERS THAT THE CASUAL SCUM WILL KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE WILL SCARE THE CHILDREN.

So how about that Lip guys?

Would rather talk about Prince Sable.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

I could try remove Hades for Lucario, but I really think Hades could be a future KI villain that becomes so popular.
Still iffy about the adding Toon Zelda and Toad, as they aren't really necessary. That would go over the 60 character meter (Not including transformations)

So... a 5th Mario or Zelda isn't necessary, yet a 3rd KI is?

That makes sense.

Hell... KI doesn't even warrant anything past Pit. When did it warrant 3?!

Go sit in the corner, and think about your life.

 

[Starcutter]

I would say something stupid about Paper Mario (like Pooper Mario or something) but I see mods in the list of people viewing the thread.
It's like a cop car on the side of a road

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That's N3ON right there.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

...
I actually have some respect for you now.
Just a little though, don't get a big head.

That ending....
Better then portal 2 ending
Better than ocarina ending

One of the best endings in history of gaming.

 

[Starphoenix]

I'm just going to throw this out there because it is really beginning to bug me: but can we please stop throwing around contrived notions of "popularity" as a basis for who is and is not likely? I would have thought by now this community would stop resorting to such arbitrary barometers. If we wanted to talk about the ability of a character to resonate with the general public, well that would be an interesting discussion in light of Villager and Wii Fit Trainer, but trying to return to "well he/she isn't that popular" is just... So 2012.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

What is going on in this thread?

 

[SuperBrawler]

That ending....
Better then portal 2 ending
Better than ocarina ending

One of the best endings in history of gaming.

Yeah, the "Just a little though, don't get a big head" part.

 

[Hotfeet444]

You know, me and you never did finish that Roy-Chrom debate we had when we first met, did we?

That was a debate? I thought that was just a clash of ideals.

And that didn't stop them from letting you get Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, etc. in the in-game storyline. Later yes, but if we're going to throw hypotheticals anyway then the Tower could just as easily been later, or Mewtwo given later in the storyline.

Also, there's a higher emphasis on older Pokémon in X and Y, it wouldn't be that surprising if Mewtwo got a strong role in the storyline (even if it concludes post-game).

Well, if we're talking after-game, then it's pretty much out there for Pokemon X and Y's aftergame. They didn't do much with it, only giving me hope that Sinnoh will one day be revisited...not to mention it gave me ALOT of respect for Looker, and I mean ALOT.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

One of the best endings in history of gaming.

Bull Crap! Yoshi's Story was the best ending!

 

[EddyBearr]

I don't see any decent chance for Dillon.

Lip sounds viable as a retro character, if Little Mac doesn't count.

Not sure how I feel of Takamaru. He'd make a decent character, but doesn't seem too unique, and apparently isn't too popular in Japan, with only modest popularity in the west. He also would have a very bland moveset, unlike, say Isaac or Lip.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

That ending....
Better then portal 2 ending
Better than ocarina ending

One of the best endings in history of gaming.

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but I say leave the mario RPGs to Mario and Luigi
Make Paper Mario's platformers with good stories. Maybe, one more RPG.
Maybe.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Once again I said the limit was four on my roster. And I was asking how the KI could become very popular in the future, and this is a SSB5 roster, which is lots of years away.

But yeah I'm gonna change the roster soon.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

What is going on in this thread?

People always seem to come in to the thread and ask what's going on when something unbelievably ridiculous is going on.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm sorry, yes, let's pick the lesser pokemon over our big generation star because you say so.



Isn't that what I just said? They picked Lucario because they couldn't pick Mewtwo? That's basically the situation. The next best choice, how is that biased?

No, I'm saying even if the option to pick Mewtwo was there, they wouldn't have done it. Why? Because it's pretty damn clear they wanted their newer icon to shine once more after it managed to prove itself through the test of time.

And really, the only reason MMY is the "generation star" to you is because of the damn movie, which is a whole cluster of "they had no choice".
-No new Pokémon to show off that fans would be ecstatic for (as to not repeat the lack of success Zoroark got)? Use an older Legendary.
-An older Legendary Pokémon would be too random out of context? Advertise Mega Evolution through Mewtwo.
-Mewtwo has two of them? We're saving the X version for something else; use the Y version.
-The anime Mewtwo being given a Mega Evolution out of the blue would make no sense? Introduce a new Mewtwo.

I mean really, outside the movie, the only "marketing" it got was an artwork of it vs. Mega Lucario, and being on the back cover of a soundtrack album.
Even when it was officially announced as a Mega Evolution, it shared this spotlight with Mega Lucario and Mega Blaziken, both of which are going to have major plot points in the upcoming anime season and most likely the unannounced Pokken Fighters game (at which, if we get Mega Mewtwo, it will be the X version).

Now, is Mega Mewtwo Y likely to be in Smash Bros.? **** yeah, it was in the movie, which Sakurai looks at.
But that doesn't mean it's more "important". Or popular. Last I checked, a huge complaint about the movie was the fact it was a new Mewtwo and the new form didn't help.

 

[Autumn ♫]

That was a debate? I thought that was just a clash of ideals.

Could have been, it's been too long ago that I don't remember that much. It was fun though.

 

[Louie G.]

Once again I said the limit was four on my roster. And I was asking how the KI could become very popular in the future, and this is a SSB5 roster, which is lots of years away.

But yeah I'm gonna change the roster soon.

The words of Sakurai:
"Probably no more KI."
There you have it.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I would like the idea of Lip if she's properly implemented right. My version is using the ability of anthkinesis/botankinesis plus magical capabilities to match her status of Fairy of Flowers. Maybe throw in some references to the Panel de Pon games like garbage blocks. The only issue is gameplay style, I was thinking of a some sort of gimmick of using combos as a way to power up attacks, like in a vein to Lucario from Project M.

 

[Bowserlick]

Dream Mario.

Have the next Mario rpg occur in a surreal setting. Subcon is overwhelming Mushroom Kingdom. Mario will have to battle Wart. But this time it is not a dream.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The future KI games don't need to be made by Sakurai, it could be made from different studios.
Then Hades popularity could rise, people would want him in SSB5.

Edit: this thread needs more Prince Sable discussion.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Paper Mario? Why not go with something firmer?

Metal Mario is a better version of Paper Mario.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I just wanna state now, that I am no longer a troll, and will provide legitimate posts on discussions.
So basically what I'm trying to say is that there is no need to skip over my posts anymore.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

What is going on in this thread?

It was attacked by zombies, shot by hundreds of cannon, swarmed by wasps, got sucked into a blackhole and then blew up in a violent explosion a long time ago, and today the flames caused by that explosion are spreading once again.

 

[Bowserlick]

I just wanna state now, that I am no longer a troll, and will provide legitimate posts on discussions.
So basically what I'm trying to say is that there is no need to skip over my posts anymore.

No skipping. I will even quote you.

 

[Louie G.]

I just wanna state now, that I am no longer a troll, and will provide legitimate posts on discussions.
So basically what I'm trying to say is that there is no need to skip over my posts anymore.

What did you say?
I didn't read your post.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Dream Mario.

Have the next Mario rpg occur in a surreal setting. Subcon is overwhelming Mushroom Kingdom. Mario will have to battle Wart. But this time it is not a dream.

That's a terrible....

This could actually work.

 

[Bowserlick]

Paper Mario? Why not go with something firmer?

Metal Mario is a better version of Paper Mario.

Paper beats Rock.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Yeah... KI's finished.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Of course, people ignore gameplay discussions.

I question if you people even play Super Smash Bros. As in, actually play it.