Roster Discussion Thread (Closed)

[~automatic]

Just gonna point out the one major tournament with items didn't have Meta-Knight in the top 8.

People were figuring out which characters were the viable at the time. If I remember correctly, Game and Watch, ICs and Falco were thought to be the best during those days but Snake, Wolf (lolwut) and MK were getting a lot of attention. You're using a tournament where the controversial ruleset kept away MANY players (including renowned players) in a time where the competitive community was still figuring out many things.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I have the worst luck with items everything explodes. I'm surprised the Sticker Sheets don't explode on impact too. Lol.

Items have their place and no items have their place. Regardless how you choose to play: Time, Coin, Stamina, Lightning, Invisible, Tiny, with Items or without. Its all Super Smash Bros.

I don't think SSB is defined by 1 match type, otherwise we wouldn't have the option to play with all these various match types otherwise.

This is a stupid discussion...

 

[lobotheduck21]

The problem is that most players do not play that way. 4vs, no items, maybe. But not 1v1 no items. Since less than 1% of the player bases even plays that way, it makes no sense to balance everything around that.

Not really, as when you find out about characters strengths and weaknesses, you can make items that can help characters

 

[Frostwraith]

I have the worst luck with items everything explodes. I'm surprised the Sticker Sheets don't explode on impact too. Lol.

Items have their place and no items have their place. Regardless how you choose to play. Coin, Stamina, Lightning, Invisible, Items or none. Its all Super Smash Bros. I don't think SSB is defined by 1 match type, otherwise we wouldn't have the option to play with all these various match types otherwise.

I think that's the "magic" of Smash, it's because there are many ways to play it.

I even remember that the Melee instruction booklet had some suggestions on creating your own rules for Smash. (At least the European version had.)

Those who impose their rules on other players, be them "casual" or "competitive" are nothing but scrubs, shoving their short sighted views on the others, thinking their they're better than anyone else. What was the word...? Arrogance? I think that's a fitting word for such behavior.

That said... I'm outta here!

 

[Metal Overlord]

"Less than 1% of Smash players play 1v1 no items"

It's like homie isn't even trying

 

[Moon Monkey]

I think that's the "magic" of Smash, it's because there are many ways to play it.

I even remember that the Melee instruction booklet had some suggestions on creating your own rules for Smash. (At least the European version had.)

Those who impose their rules on other players, be them "casual" or "competitive" are nothing but scrubs, shoving their short sighted views on the others, thinking their they're better than anyone else. What was the word...? Arrogance? I think that's a fitting word for such behavior.

That said... I'm outta here!

Exactly, even Mario Kart gives you the option to play with or without items.
Heck it gives you the options to make your own Cup.
That's the reason why both games of the like are so successful. They appeal to everyone, rather than narrowing it's market to the extremely casual or competitive.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Mario Kart is slightly less fun without items. Smash is extremely less fun WITH items.

Now change the damn subject.

 

[~automatic]

Now change the damn subject.

If Namco and Nintendo are super BFFs now then how come the console version of Ni No Kuni is a PS3 exclusive when it originally came out in the DS.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Mario Kart is slightly less fun without items. Smash is extremely less fun WITH items.

Now change the damn subject.

STAR FOX.

 

[Curious Villager]

I don't mind items. Their fun. Except Brawl's items. I alway's stay the heck away from every single one of them. I swear they all blow up on me! Even Mr. Saturn, yet my opponents all get scott free. Okay I was a little sarcastic but seriously it happens more often than not. And dont get me started on the broken and squeeky hammers... ¬_¬

 

[Diddy Kong]

If Namco and Nintendo are super BFFs now then how come the console version of Ni No Kuni is a PS3 exclusive when it originally came out in the DS.

Because ******* are greedy for money.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Subject change?

Dawnkeh Kawng

K. Rool

There ye go

 

[FlareHabanero]

Now change the damn subject.

Would people be alright with an "EX" feature where you can switch between the original character to an alternate version of the character with altered attributes like the clones in Melee? It would be one way to squeeze in characters without wasting slots.

 

[Diddy Kong]

EX mode seems good enough for me for certain characters.

Ideas:

Mario - Dr.Mario
Link (Skyward Sword) - Link (Zelda Wii U)
Zelda / Impa - Zelda / Sheik
Ganondorf - Demise
Mewtwo - 'Newtwo'

 

[Fastblade5035]

Wait, how about the best Pokemon ever known to humankind:

Discuss :3

 

[~automatic]

That's not Pikachu.

 

[Moon Monkey]

If Namco and Nintendo are super BFFs now then how come the console version of Ni No Kuni is a PS3 exclusive when it originally came out in the DS.

Idk that is odd... I didn't even know it came out on the DS previously. It's the same thing with Kingdom Hearts with Sony and Nintendo. 1 and 2 were exclusive at the time on the PS2 now all these titles are found on the GBA, DS and 3DS

Both companies probably waved some cash around to get it exclusive on their consoles.
It's like 2 kids who dislike each other, but share the same best friend, and fighting over whose house the neutral best friend should come over for the weekend.

 

[lobotheduck21]

That's not eevee.

fixed

 

[Deleted member]

fixed

You mean Arcanine right?

On EX mode. I'm all for it, especially if it means cutting some useless characters.

 

[SmashShadow]

That's not Mewtwo.

Fix'd that for you.

 

[Moon Monkey]

That ain't Falco.

fixed

Double fixed.
WOMBO COMBO!

EDIT: Really? There is no Falco smiley??

 

[Deleted member]

EDIT: Really? There is no Falco smiley??

It's preparing people for Smash 4.


HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[FlareHabanero]

You mean Arcanine right?

I adore Arcanine, it's majestic as ****.

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

That's not Leafeon.

 

[lobotheduck21]

Man, I remember when I was a kid I made a roster for a "DC vs Marvel" game, but I guess I don't have it


It had batman beyond for a character too

 

[~automatic]

I like how the thread improved once SmashChu left, lmao.

 

[Diddy Kong]

DAT AIN'T BLASTOISE!

myactualfavoriteismewtwothoughlolz

 

[Deleted member]

I adore Arcanine, it's majestic as ****.

It's been my favorite Pokemon since Gen 1. I loved the buffs he got in B2/W2. Dat Outrage. Every game I can catch one in I make sure to get one.

I like how the thread improved once SmashChu left, lmao.

I was gonna comment on how disapponted I was that a decent discussion was thrown down the dumpster the moment SmashChu popped in, but the last thing I need is someone telling me to stop picking on Chu.

I swear that guy is just here to troll people. He literally pops in to start a ****storm, has his laughs, and the walks out leaving everyone running around like decapitated chickens.

 

[Moon Monkey]

DAT AIN'T BLASTOISE!

myactualfavoriteismewtwothoughlolz

 

[SmashChu]

Why not? It's not like it's alienating anything by balancing like that; in fact it's easily the best way to dissect how characters fair against what. You can still use all of the gimmicks you want, but using the gimmicks as the basis is not the way to go.

It's a part of the game like everything else. Like I said. Less than 1 percent of players play 1v1 no items, so why balance the game that way. It makes no sense. (For the record, Brawl sold about 10.6 million. 1 percent is 106,000. Smash Boards has a few more members, though a good deal of them do not play competitively).

Not really, as when you find out about characters strengths and weaknesses, you can make items that can help characters

Good point. Even still, 1v1 wont give you realistic balance. I could agree that 4vs with no items is OK.

Would people be alright with an "EX" feature where you can switch between the original character to an alternate version of the character with altered attributes like the clones in Melee? It would be one way to squeeze in characters without wasting slots.

So, basically, you'd have clones without having clones.
Pretty bad idea if you ask me.

 

[BKupa666]

Subject change?

Dawnkeh Kawng

K. Rool

There ye go

You can't have Dawnkeh Kawng without King Ka-Rool.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Though our favorite Pokemon vary (obviously )
I think we can ALL agree that the following is a menace, and overall disgrace to the Pokemon franchise:

 

[Diddy Kong]

This is what happens to everyone the first time. Can't blame him now can you?

And it only proofs my point.

 

[Deleted member]

Goddammnit... Guess I spoke too soon.

Ah well, **** it.

Though our favorite Pokemon vary (obviously )
I think we can ALL agree that the following is a menace, and overall disgrace to the Pokemon franchise:

If I recall correctly, Ice types are still very meh. My Arcanine would have a field day with that thing.

 

[Metal Overlord]

See, BKupa knows what's good

Water types all day errday bishes

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Would people be alright with an "EX" feature where you can switch between the original character to an alternate version of the character with altered attributes like the clones in Melee? It would be one way to squeeze in characters without wasting slots.

This is an AMAZING idea. I have no idea why more fighter(lookin' at you, Capcom) don't do this anymore. I could easily see Mairo getting a "Doc" mode, falco's Melee moveset being an EX-mode for either Fox or Falco, and Ganondorf and Toon Link getting clone and non-clone modes.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Oh and since we already are on the topic of DAWNKEY KAWNG and Wombo Combo, I present you: KONGO COMBO:

Also, confession time: I to use items.

Spoiler

Cause my main throws bananas with his Down B attack

 

[FlareHabanero]

Vanilluxe is actually one of my favorite Pokemon by virtue of being ice cream. I love ice cream! But unfortunately, it's not that amazing considering it's move pool is pretty one dimensional.

 

[Moon Monkey]

See, BKupa knows what's good

Water types all day errday bishes

Fire types is where it's at. If Donkey Kong Country has taught me anything it's Monkeys > Reptiles
There for Infernape > Feraligatr!
Fire types fo life! Soo-woo!

 

[SmashShadow]

Goddammnit... Guess I spoke too soon.

Ah well, **** it.




If I recall correctly, Ice types are still very meh. My Arcanine would have a field day with that thing.

Ahem

But yeah, i agree. I only really like Lapras and Spheal.