Roster Discussion Thread (Closed)

[FalKoopa]

One troll to end them all!

Its a pic, not a problem though.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

The prodigal son has returned!

Prodigal son? (-ö^ö-)

 

[Metal Overlord]

What's discussin???

To answer everyone's desperate pleas, I created a time machine which let me travel through time and space, to retrieve one of the most influental emoticons in our discussions:

LET'S WELCOME BACK

THE :TROLL:

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It's not working.

This post is absolutely amazing

 

[Shorts]

A new Starfox game is being currently developed. There will be a SFWii U, I'm sure of it.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Awwwww yissss

Smooth Criminal

 

[Robert of Normandy]

A new Starfox game is being currently developed. There will be a SFWii U, I'm sure of it.

Source? I've heard nothing of it.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Source? I've heard nothing of it.

There isn't a Star Fox game being made.

 

[N3ON]

I have no idea why people need to be so definitive. There might be a Starfox game being made. Can't say anything else with more certainty than that atm.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Smooth Criminal: It's a pic, so ya gotta use Drag'n'Drop or image-pasting.

 

[Oasis_S]

Smooth Criminal: It's a pic, so ya gotta use Drag'n'Drop or image-pasting.

You got him good. *BROFIST*

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

*Brofists back while laughing uncontrollably*

 

[SmashShadow]

I am disappoint about troll face!

 

[Shorts]

It's the series Miyamoto most wants to see have a new game made, and at one point Nintendo was throwing around a Metroid x StarFox game, but they scrapped the cross idea and moved on to something else. That's enough reason for me.

Miyamoto gets what he wants, and it's not like there isn't a want for a new StarFox game anyhow.

Also, hoping for the Miyamoto IP to show up at E3

 

[ChronoBound]

Shortie, what if the next Star Fox game is a reboot (that ignores all the games after 64)? A lot of fans seem to want that (along with the gaming media).

 

[FlareHabanero]

Considering how screwed over the series has been, a reboot is necessary at this point.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

It's the series Miyamoto most wants to see have a new game made, and at one point Nintendo was throwing around a Metroid x StarFox game, but they scrapped the cross idea and moved on to something else. That's enough reason for me.

Sorry, but until you can provide me a direct quote from someone at Nintendo that says there is definitely going to be a new Starfox game, then you shouldn't go around saying there is, no matter how much incidental evidence there is to suggest that there might be.

Hey y'know what? Chrono said that one of the directors for the Fire Emblem series expressed interest in a Fire Emblem All-stars and a FE6 remake. Since FE All-Stars became Awakening, that MUST mean that the next Fire Emblem is a Sword of Seals remake!

 

[Shorts]

Shortie, what if the next Star Fox game is a reboot (that ignores all the games after 64)? A lot of fans seem to want that (along with the gaming media).

If there was going to be a reboot, it would have happened already. IMO. But, if there was, I don't know? I don't see a reason for a reboot. SFAdventures will never happen again (Even though the game wasn't even that bad), StarFox Assualt was actually a good game, just a little short, and StarFoxCommand isn't canon. It makes the most sense that they would simply continue the story from Assualt.

A reboot just seems out of place to me. I don't think Nintendo has ever erased a franchise like that before anyways. And a reboot isn't going to save the franchise. A good sequel will. With or without Krystal.

Sorry, but until you can provide me a direct quote from someone at Nintendo that says there is definitely going to be a new Starfox game, then you shouldn't go around saying there is, no matter how much incidental evidence there is to suggest that there might be.

That does suggest, now pull that stick out of your ass and chill out.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Is confirmed then that Miya is working on a new IP? You're throwing a lot of news here but I didn't hear of anyone.

 

[Shorts]

Is confirmed then that Miya is working on a new IP? You're throwing a lot of news here but I didn't hear of anyone.

Yeah there's a trailer and everything. News is like a year old.

Edit: Im thinking of the IP that the creator of Megaman is making. I dont think there is a trailer for Miyamotos.

Literally type in "New Miyamoto IP" into google. You'll find everything we know that way. Not much

 

[Robert of Normandy]

That does suggest, now pull that stick out of your *** and chill out.

Suggests =/= confirms.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I heard about the rumor, didn't think they were actual news.

 

[Metal Overlord]

That does suggest, now pull that stick out of your *** and chill out.

I think there's going to be a new Star Fox game sooner or later too, and while it's true that signs seem to point towards such, it's still just speculation at the end of the day. It has weight to it and isn't exactly farfetched, but it's only speculation so far. shinpichu's point was simply that you're projecting your opinion to be factual, which it obviously isn't considering nothing has been confirmed by Nintendo. No need for such harsh words lol

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Speaking of reboot, my Japanese friend Nura Zaki, who's a huge fan of Nazo no Muresame-jo and amdins the Takamaru for Super Smash Bros. 4 page, decided to stop by Platinum Games headquarters and share some of our ideas to him since he figured he might need some help on some plans for the Murasame Castle reboot. He thought he was a pretty cool guy and was told about what they did for gaining ideas and which ideas of our's that he liked the most. Most of all, he was told that they might become more motivated and know what design to use IF Takamaru was revealed in that upcoming Super Smash Bros. 4 trailer.

http://smashboards.com/threads/324291/page-8

 

[SmashChu]

Patterns are made to be broken, especially from an installment that is going to change directions. For those that people that believe in the heart of the patterns, prepared to get wrecked.

This is an OLD post, but I think this is kind of importaint.

The idea that there are no patterns is just as ludicrous as thinking they are everyone. It's like everything. You have to have balance. There are patterns in each game. It's silly to think there aren't any at all. If there was no consistency, then most of what we've been doing, trying to understand the roster selection, is pointless.

13 has been more or less an agreed upon increase (though I say 14), and then SmashChu says it and it's laughable?

Most people hate me because what I say they don't like to hear. I have to be wrong on everything it seems. Thanks for pointing this out. It's good to know I have a friend like you Oasis.

 

[ChronoBound]

I think we will only get 14 characters that were not in Brawl at most too.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I think that assumptions are to make just for fun and be sure on something like this it's completely useless. I mean why 14 lol? Why not 10? Why not 20?

 

[FlareHabanero]

So basically what SmashChu is saying is that we'll get another Star Fox character, a Pokemon replacement, a Fire Emblem replacement, two retro characters, several "clones", two more third party characters, and cuts for several characters.

Sounds perfectly legitimate with absolutely not faults whatsoever to this logic.

 

[Frostwraith]

Such compelling evidence I see backing up the arguments here.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Shortiecanbrawl, you couldn't be more wrong I'm sorry.

First point. Miyamoto wants a new Star Fox, yes this is true. In 2007 or 06 an interview was done where Miyamoto expressed he wanted a Star Fox for Wii, he envisioned the Wiimote being the Arwing. Just because he wants something doesn't mean anything. He also told the world through an interview that if we want a new Star Fox, buy 64 3D and that game certainly didn't make any huge dents in the charts.

Second Point. The Star Fox X Metroid was the most outrageous RUMOR to come about in a long time. How long have you been interneting? It was a rumor then its still a rumor now. But I guarantee you no such abomination was ever considered. I talked with a Retro employee about it who told me the whole team had good laugh about it.

With all that being said there is absolutely no certainty that a new Star Fox is being made. I hope to Oda that one is being made and truly believe it will be revived on the U but its no more than wishful thinking. The more you bring up examples like that, the more less informed people will run with it.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

"Hands off my pizza."

That pretty much came to my mind as well

 

[Big-Cat]

The idea that there are no patterns is just as ludicrous as thinking they are everyone. It's like everything. You have to have balance. There are patterns in each game. It's silly to think there aren't any at all. If there was no consistency, then most of what we've been doing, trying to understand the roster selection, is pointless.

Maybe we should just stop caring about this.

Most people hate me because what I say they don't like to hear. I have to be wrong on everything it seems.

Nah, we hate you because you're an idiotic prick.

 

[Deleted member]

ugh... I'm so unmotivated to talk about this topic. We've been over it so many times. Roster size and patterns. Worst part is, I doubt anyone took up my challenge, and no one will. They will just keep on spouting their ideas with not incentive to learn but rather prove that they are right.

This is the point where I give in and just talk about something else. It takes a big man to never give up, but an even bigger man to know when to call it and quit.

So, about that Star Fox reboot, by PG... I doubt it. Especially by PG. As Habanero said, I'd much rather have a Mysterious Castle reboot done by them. I never gave two ****s about SF outside of 64 and to a much lesser extent the disappointment that was Assault. Though considering how amazing Metal Gear Rising is, I don't think PG is capable of making a bad game.

Anyway, on that challenge. I took it up myself and drew up some concepts, most of them are for a little pet project I've had floating around in my head for quite some time. So lets play a little game to kill some time. Some of these characters are influenced by Smash characters and potential Smash newcomers. Points for anyone who can guess the influences in some of these.

Spoiler

All of these are WIP mind you, so I still need to go back an rework a lot of them so that they don't look like blatant rip-offs of other characters from other things. Atm they are simply concepts for ideas and such. Though some designs I'm quite pleased with as some are quite original.

As for the results, in the short time I've worked on these I've got 26 characters, but I doubt most would make a cut, and I've only got moveset ideas planned for a handful, let alone strategies.

Coming up with character designs for a story along with special moves and such is rather easy, like if this were to be a manga of some sort, it'd be no problem; but just the thought of having to come up with complete movesets for each and every character is exhausting in just thought. I think that alone expresses what I said before.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Such compelling evidence I see backing up the arguments here.

At this point, what ever argument is spewed out is the equivalent of trying to teach a snake how to tap dance.

 

[Shorts]

**** this ****. I'm gonna get drunk.

Peace an' blessins <3

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Though considering how amazing Metal Gear Rising is, I don't think PG is capable of making a bad game.

They can make bad games, they just haven't yet. Maybe they never will, but it's entirely possible that at some point or another they'll turn out a clunker.

Anyway, on that challenge. I took it up myself and drew up some concepts, most of them are for a little pet project I've had floating around in my head for quite some time. So lets play a little game to kill some time. Some of these characters are influenced by Smash characters and potential Smash newcomers. Points for anyone who can guess the influences in some of these.

Spoiler

All of these are WIP mind you, so I still need to go back an rework a lot of them so that they don't look like blatant rip-offs of other characters from other things. Atm they are simply concepts for ideas and such. Though some designs I'm quite pleased with as some are quite original.

As for the results, in the short time I've worked on these I've got 26 characters, but I doubt most would make a cut, and I've only got moveset ideas planned for a handful, let alone strategies.

Coming up with character designs for a story along with special moves and such is rather easy, like if this were to be a manga of some sort, it'd be no problem; but just the thought of having to come up with complete movesets for each and every character is exhausting in just thought. I think that alone expresses what I said before.

I think the first chick is Lyn. Row 2, Column 4 looks like KOS-MOS to me. One of the guys in the fourth row down looks like Vaati(and the guy with him looks like he might be someone from TP or SS, not sure who though), and the thing in the row below him looks an awful lot like Mewtwo(or Giegue).

Man I wish I could draw. :/

 

[Big-Cat]

Oh, is this the OC roster challenge? Let's see if I can spot the influences:

1. Lyn - The most obvious one and I best this was the first one.
2.Big Hippo?
3. Chrome or Ike with a blatant Guts influence.
4. Miku, Presea, and Tron Bonne
5. Living Lord Raptor with possibly some Rorona Zoro.
6. Kamina
7. I want to say Amaterasu, but I'm probably wrong.
8. KOS-MOS
9. Unholy Pikachu-Mewoth hyrbrid.
10. Magus and/or Future Trunks
11. Not sure, but I imagine them being a duo character.
12. Desert Punk and Son Wukong
13. Silent Mage with Yu-Gi-Oh's Egyptian theme.
14. Sophitia
15. Not sure.
16. It's on the tip of the tongue, but I can't say for certain.
17. Giegue
18. The main girl from El Cazador de La Bruja
19. Not sure, but possible Eureka 7 influence.
20. Jack Skellington
21. Ippo
22. I smell Native American Dark Magician Girl
23. ???
24. Peach with Anji
25. Any Rambo movie.

I want to get back to drawing, but damn my procrastination and schoolwork.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I can draw a little actually, but nothing on par with something like Leonardo. Mainly it's just random doodles out of boredom. I can draw more then simple stick figures and got the concept of expressions down, but prospective is not my strong suit.

 

[Frostwraith]

Drawing? The best I can do is drawing simple characters like Kirby or some Pokémon (like Diglett, Magnemite or Wobbuffet).

The fact that I have a physical disability due to birth complications doesn't help at all, even though it has become milder over the years (thankfully).

 

[Croph]

Anyway, on that challenge. I took it up myself and drew up some concepts, most of them are for a little pet project I've had floating around in my head for quite some time. So lets play a little game to kill some time. Some of these characters are influenced by Smash characters and potential Smash newcomers. Points for anyone who can guess the influences in some of these.

Spoiler

All of these are WIP mind you, so I still need to go back an rework a lot of them so that they don't look like blatant rip-offs of other characters from other things. Atm they are simply concepts for ideas and such. Though some designs I'm quite pleased with as some are quite original.

As for the results, in the short time I've worked on these I've got 26 characters, but I doubt most would make a cut, and I've only got moveset ideas planned for a handful, let alone strategies.

Coming up with character designs for a story along with special moves and such is rather easy, like if this were to be a manga of some sort, it'd be no problem; but just the thought of having to come up with complete movesets for each and every character is exhausting in just thought. I think that alone expresses what I said before.

Whoa, those are some awesome drawings. Nine-Tailed Fox girl reminds me of Ahri from LoL, nice. It's a shame I don't know anything about video games or how to draw. But coming up with character designs/concepts sounds like fun. Who knows, maybe I'll try to come up with some original characters someday (though they're probably gonna look awful).

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

21 looks like a very muscular Agent J (from Elite Beat Agents)