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That sounds TOO badass. I don't think the Wii U can handle such epicness.Imagine if he had a chain at his side, and he made it explode, link by link, and reform in his grip...
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That sounds TOO badass. I don't think the Wii U can handle such epicness.Imagine if he had a chain at his side, and he made it explode, link by link, and reform in his grip...
Maybe that's why there was no Mach Rider on the Wii Smash.That sounds TOO badass. I don't think the Wii U can handle such epicness.
Those icons are really nice, Onyx! If you're taking requests, maybe Muddy Mole? I can never find any good 3D-ish art of him...
But yeah, Mach Rider would be quite epic. Post-apocalyptic badass biker with a chain and gatlin gun equipped bike? Nice.
Thank you!! You saw your Mach Rider icon on the previous page right ? or was that the one you were speaking of? Haha@Onyx Oblivion: That was awesome and it's a nice 3-D image you've made.
@Onyx Oblivian those icons are sweet. i posted in your other thread with these, but i cant find it now. I'd love to see a Paper Mario and a Ghirahim if you have time
awesome! i think Paper Mario looks fine. Thanks!
Here they are (Paper Mario was a little difficult to make into 3D haha)
Oh man!! I didn't even see that version, you're absolutely right!Might I suggest using the artwork from Sticker Star that gives him a more "realistic" and 3D-ish look?
I think the window of opportunity for F-zero to get a third rep has closed. Sakurai stated that "we've probably already reached the limit in quanity" in how big the roster will get. He was probably referring to SSB4's mostly final roster when saying that (contrary to what most would think, I doubt he was referencing Brawl as not many embrace the idea of a sub-44 characters roster including transformation), so the increase we get will probably be all we get for a Smash game. I honestly can't see them justifying a third F-zero rep with a roster that looks to be anywhere from forty-eight to fifty-six characters when we don't even know if F-zero will even get a newcomer.Spydr_Enzo said:True... but neither series are very relevant at this point in time anyway. When Melee was made, Star Fox was a far more popular series than F-Zero, constituting Falco's inclusion. When the Brawl roster was made, the Star Fox series was still going (somewhat) strong, constituting Wolf's inclusion, although it spiraled shortly after that. Can't say the same for F-Zero.
You're right about that last comment, though. If Smash continues on and the roster continues to grow, three reps isn't out of the question.
Man, if Sakurai trolls us again with F-Zero like the way that he did when he annouced Samurai Goroh as an AT in Brawl, I think I'll lose alot of respect for him.we don't even know if F-zero will even get a newcomer.
I agree 100% that this time around we will probably get one new rep at most. That said, as the series goes on it's possible we'll get a third.I think the window of opportunity for F-zero to get a third rep has closed. Sakurai stated that "we've probably already reached the limit in quanity" in how big the roster will get. He was probably referring to SSB4's mostly final roster when saying that (contrary to what most would think, I doubt he was referencing Brawl as not many embrace the idea of a sub-44 characters roster including transformation), so the increase we get will probably be all we get for a Smash game. I honestly can't see them justifying a third F-zero rep with a roster that looks to be anywhere from forty-eight to fifty-six characters when we don't even know if F-zero will even get a newcomer.
Skaurai always says that about the roster. We thought the same thing in Brawl. What Sakurai is saying is characters are not the main focus, but he'll still add a lot because he knows that's what people like. He also knows there is a limited poll of them, and that is why we have comments like that.I think the window of opportunity for F-zero to get a third rep has closed. Sakurai stated that "we've probably already reached the limit in quanity" in how big the roster will get. He was probably referring to SSB4's mostly final roster when saying that (contrary to what most would think, I doubt he was referencing Brawl as not many embrace the idea of a sub-44 characters roster including transformation), so the increase we get will probably be all we get for a Smash game. I honestly can't see them justifying a third F-zero rep with a roster that looks to be anywhere from forty-eight to fifty-six characters when we don't even know if F-zero will even get a newcomer.
I'm wondering if they're holding out on a new installment because they're worried about GX being a tough act to follow.I would be more welcoming of an F-Zero newcomer in general if there was another installment in the series. Not that i dont want one in general, but it would make more sense to have another game similar to GX (which i LOVE), and have Goroh or somebody else have a big role, so that it would be recent. We havent had a new F-Zero in what? 10 years? Then i would say its a sure thing
For different reasons other than just to expand the series.As for F-Zero, two characters isn't unlikely. Every game has had two series get two characters. This time, it will likely be DK and F-Zero.
I disagree. Black Shadow is highly requested in Japan and Samurai Goroh makes sense and is a good character overall. With those two, two additions doesn't seem likely.For different reasons other than just to expand the series.
In 64, we had two Mario and two Pokemon characters. (with another planned one for each, as well as a planned 2nd Kirby and StarFox.)
With Mario, it was literally because you can't represent the Mario Bros. series without both Mario Bros., and Pokemon because of it's popularity being on the rise.
In Melee, excluding clones, we have Peach and Bowser. Both are important characters to the Mario series and were very popular requests for the game.(Bowser being the top character in Sakurai's pre-Melee poll with Peach behind by one vote IIRC.)
Clones have their specific reasons that do not exactly tie into the series they represent.
In Brawl, Meta Knight and Dedede were both widely requested characters since Melee (Dedede since 64), and Sakurai believed it would be the last chance he had to add both in.
Pokemon Trainer was an idea that he had in Melee that he felt would take too much time and resources to make back then, and Lucario was just someone that made perfect sense.
With F-Zero....honestly the only reason to include 2 newcomers is "to expand the series".
A third party character with a ton of popularity, requests, and a rich Nintendo history perhaps?okay anyone here......change that Megaman fanboys.....give me 1 LEGIT reason why Megaman BELONGS in Smash? If you want Megaman in a fighting game, go play the Marvel vs. Capcom series which has him with more weapons and options and in smash that will get watered down to the basics.
I think his Clone Trooper avy is a dead give away.A third party character with a ton of popularity, requests, and a rich Nintendo history perhaps?
Also, weren't you the guy who wanted Obi Wan a few months back, despite the impossibility? If you want Star Wars characters, go play Soul Calibur, where they can actually, and have, appeared and wouldn't have to be deemed impossible.
(If this wasn't you I apologize...I tend to mix people up...)
I do recall Sakurai stating something like that pre-Brawl in regards to him wanting to change direction, but I don't think he stated that he'd "reached" the limit with the roster pre-Brawl. Would be nice to be proven wrong though.Skaurai always says that about the roster. We thought the same thing in Brawl. What Sakurai is saying is characters are not the main focus, but he'll still add a lot because he knows that's what people like. He also knows there is a limited poll of them, and that is why we have comments like that.
As for F-Zero, two characters isn't unlikely. Every game has had two series get two characters. This time, it will likely be DK and F-Zero.
Deathborn's awesome, but Black Shadow is more widely known and is a recurring villain, not only in games but also in the anime. Plus his(Black Shadow's) name is slightly less Nineties anti-hero sounding.Samurai Goroh would most likely be given his own original moveset, Black Shadow i imagine would take over Ganondorf's previous Captain Falcon replica moveset. Also, what about Deathborn?
I think Goroh would be better, but with moves like these, and even have a bull/electric moveset, thatd be so great! F-Zero needs a rep for how long it's been in the seriesi actually think Black Shadow could have a unique moveset i have a few ideas for him:
Bull charge: this is basically a running headbut. I thought if that doesn't work a shoulder charge would be fine.
Electric Charge: A Ball of energy that turns into a rope and brings the opponent closer to you kind of like Scorpion's Spear.
In F-zero GX Story Mode when he's facing Captain Falcon he has this ball of Energy built up when he shoots it it becomes a rope and ties up Captain Falcon.
Anyone can have an unique moveset or a semi-cloned one, even the most obvious of the clones, such as Dr. Mario or Toon/Young Link can.i actually think Black Shadow could have a unique moveset
The flaw in your analysis is you are assuming only the top guys get in. As far as request go, the most popular characters are: Ridley, Mewtwo, Roy, Dixie, King K Rool, Megaman, and Little Mac (though he is debatable). Outside of them, everyone else is fair game. There are no more Peachs or Bowsers. Besides the few I just listed, there really aren't many must have characters.He's not THAT highly requested. He's just more than any other F-Zero candidate, and as others have repeatedly said, it's either to take Ganon's old moveset or just because of his anime voice.
If Brawl didn't have even a passing mention for Black Shadow other than a trophy, which was closer to the end of the anime (2004 vs. 2008, with 2005 being when the roster was being decided upon), it surely seems unlikely to influence Smash 4 at all, which is 2014 at the earliest. 10 years.
Black Shadow doesn't get quite as much requests as previous examples I gave (Meta Knight, Dedede, Bowser, Peach, Lucario, etc.)
There's also to consider that Sakurai may find Goroh not worth it to try making up a moveset for like he did Falcon. Goroh is just some muscular fat guy with a sword; at least B. Shadow has his anime powers to work with and the energy bonding chains and clone spawning from GX.
As much as I would love to see both Goroh and B. Shadow, I'm not going to delude myself into believing both have a chance together. It's one or the other, or neither.