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Mario? There's tons of conflict over who should get in, mostly between Bowser Jr., Toad, and Waluigi fans.
I am not saying they don't have conflict, I was just saying it is no where near the first three I named. People literally clash when those rosters are discussed.
Surprised third party discussions aren't attached with the first line. Just wait until I restart the Dragon Quest bandwagon.
Deserve is such a funny word.
Though I still disagree with advertisement fodder in general, there is always the possibility of inclusion if the character is apparently likeable or interesting enough. Kind of like Roy in Melee
Well, that is what the arguments are about. For Kirby, most people agree that rep #4 should be Bandana Waddle Dee, but most of the conflict comes from wether or not Kirby needs/deserves/should get that 4th rep. For Mother, I think there's some conflict between Porky/Ninten/Kumatora, but most of the conflict comes from people who think that Mother has gotten enough representatives.
I was actually thinking about including 3rd party discussions to the first list but decided not to.
I didn't say it was guaranteed all those characters you listed wouldn't be excluded. I just said the other three were much more likely.
If you're arbitrarily going to exclude the categories that make up over half the amount of new series added in Melee and Brawl, then the new series percentage would be even less (1/3 and 2/6 -- 2/14 and 2/18 respectively) and it would be even more unrealistic to expect more than this ratio for SSB4. Why would the ratio change now? It's not like the unrepresented series are now in general more "deserving" than the remaining character from existing series.
But basing your entire viewpoint and every argument you make on a small chance like this is misguided.
Yeah, including unrepresented retro series and unrepresented 3rd-parties.
Except there is a precedent of Sakurai including a character that wasn't even out when the Smash game he was included in came out because Sakurai found merit in him, which could also happen with the 6th gen and SSB4. I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but if Sakurai chose a feasible Pokemon that Game Freak/Pokemon Company was going to promote to the extent of Lucario and/or Zoroark, it would at least have a decent amount of popularity pre-announcement/leak of its inclusion. Sakurai has done something like this before, maybe he is that dumb.
Saying it's unrealistic and saying it's impossible are two different things. If I said the roster was going to have 70 characters that'd be unrealistic, right? Even before the trailer came out, that'd be an unrealistic thing to say.
Obviously you missed the great Mario character arguments of the old days. They were as heated as Pokemon/FE discussions are now.
Was just a happy camping Toad supporter though.
There is a difference between FE and PKMN, but I cannot elaborate on it now since I have to jet to work. Will come back though.Except there is a precedent of Sakurai including a character that wasn't even out when the Smash game he was included in came out because Sakurai found merit in him, which could also happen with the 6th gen and SSB4. I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but if Sakurai chose a feasible Pokemon that Game Freak/Pokemon Company was going to promote to the extent of Lucario and/or Zoroark, it would at least have a decent amount of popularity pre-announcement/leak of its inclusion. Sakurai has done something like this before, maybe he is that dumb.
Ok, I have to go soon too, but all I was saying is (not that it's the obviously most likely situation) just that it could be a possibility. I recognize there are differences between pretty much every series in Smash and how their inclusions work.
Alright, no Waluigi, I can deal with.
i know right. I kinda figured it would be like Luigi, E. Gadd, Toad, and someone else (probably Mario but Waluigi would be cooler) this route just seems kinda lazy.
Yeah, I was really hoping for some character diversity for the multiplayer instead of just Luigi recolors
No.
Agreed. At most there might be a played demonstration behind the scenes, like at a developer conference that's behind closed doors.
I believe this is reasonable and realistic:
I'm still for GenoFrom as long as I've been here, I've seen the most heat in Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem discussions.
Mario mainly because I'm for Paper Mario. And most people are for Toad or Waluigi.
Zelda because for some damn reason people want Impa in the game, and some people want tingle and some want ghirahim and nobody's an obvious addition and so on and so forth.
Fire Emblem because nothing seems certain there, who should be in or how many people.
And pokemon because there are SOOOO many choices and one got removed and there's a new gen and blah blah blah.
It's all pretty much just a recipe for disaster.
I see:
Chrom and Roy for FE.
Mewtwo and some 6th gen whatever for PKMN.
Paper Mario for Mario, probably exactly what you thought I'd say.
And toon zelda/tetra for Zelda.
Now as for Kirby getting another rep...it's certainly plausible. It's just I don't know about such a generic character as bandana dee. Does it really have a fan base?
Wasn't sure. (I actually saw the post) Thanks for the confirmation.
