Rhode Island Melee Monthlies Episode I: The Rhode to Victory—November 22nd

[ZoSo]

name idea courtesy of OmegaBlackMage

I'm aware that this is short notice for a lot of people, but I'm hoping to get at least a decent crowd from around New England.

GENERAL INFORMATION

->Location

GameZone

231 Broad Street
Cumberland, RI
02864

->Fees

Singles Entry: $10
Doubles Entry: $5/person
Venue: $5 (mandatory)

The pot will be split 60/30/10 to the top 3 entrants for both events.

->Schedule

9:00—Store opens

10:00—Registration begins

12:00—Doubles registration ends, doubles begins shortly thereafter

Singles will begin shortly after doubles ends, but no later than 5:00.

Depending on how many people show up/our time frame, we may choose to run pools for seeding purposes.

RULES

->General

Double-elimination
All matches will be best of 3, finals best of 5
Stocks: 4
Time Limit: 8 minutes
Ties broken by lives/percentage
Friendly Fire: On
Items: Off
Life stealing is allowed in doubles

->Stages

Neutral stages: Final Destination, Battlefield, Dreamland, Pokemon Stadium, Yoshi's Story
Stages banned for singles and doubles: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Island 64, Fourside, Onett, Hyrule Temple, Great Bay, Flatzone, Brinstar Depths, Icicle Mountain, Big Blue, Mushroom Kingdom, Mushroom Kingdom II, Venom, Peach's Castle, Green Greens, Jungle Japes, Kongo Jungle (DK Rap), Corneria
Stages banned for doubles only: Mute City

The first stage of each set will be chosen thusly: Players will decide amongst themselves who chooses first, then take turns striking stages from the list of neutrals until one remains. The first match will then be played on Pokefloats the remaining stage.

Advanced Slob Picks: Loser chooses stage, winner may change character, loser may change character.

Dave's Modified Stupid Rule: No stage may be used twice in a single set if the player choosing already won on that stage.

->Miscellaneous

Controller mods of ANY kind (short-hop mod, L-trigger mod, etc),
except for cosmetic changes (paint job, different colored plastic), are
banned. If you are caught using a banned controller you will be
disqualified from the tournament.

Turbo or programmed buttons of any kind are banned. You may use
third party controllers or pads that have these features, but if you
are suspected of using the banned features you will not be allowed to
use that controller any longer.

Tactics such as Peach's Wallbombing and Jiggly's Rising Pound are
allowed as methods of recovery or to manuever around the stage. Using
them (or any similar tactics) to excessively stall a match, such as
dropping below levels intentionally and stalling underneath, is banned.
Judges will be on the tournament floor can be called in at any time to
enforce this rule during a match.

You are responsible to BRING YOUR OWN CONTROLLER.

SETUPS

->TVs (7 so far)

GameZone (5)
ZoSo (2)

->Cubes/Wiis (??? + 1 so far)

GameZone (???)
ZoSo (1)

ATTENDEES

ZoSo

 

[ZoSo]

Everybody please read the stage list/rules carefully.

 

[wWw Dazwa]

I'm gonna read your stage list/rules carefully alright. ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

 

[-Darc-]

ITT: ***gots who tell Dazwa first.

 

[Spife]

ITT: Hi darc!

So let me get this straight, players decided who goes first, as in starts striking first, then we go and take turns striking from the 6 neutrals, the remaining stage is the first stage we play on?
Interesting...but why?

 

[trademark0013]

thats a mad weird rule but w/e. lol

also, so is reg. brinstar availiable or no?

 

[ZoSo]

Spife: There are only five neutrals. I decided I was going to remove either FoD or Yoshi's because I wanted to have an odd number of neutral stages to ensure that each players gets the same number of strikes. I settled on FoD because it's already banned in teams.

If this creates controversy, I would honestly have no problem with going back to the conventional random select, but I just wanted to give this a shot.

Trade: Brinstar is available, yes.

 

[EC_Joey]

**** Super Hayes Bros. got here first.

 

[KevinM]

at no Green Greens

 

[Spife]

at no FoD that stage gets so much hate
edit: not from you dave, roman and kyupuff dislike it a lot too

 

[ZoSo]

FoD is still available. It's just not a neutral.

 

[SleepyK]

That's an interesting choice; why no neutral status for fod?

also, As soon as I saw "Rhode Island Melee" I was hoping you had made an acronym for RIMJOB or something similar

 

[trademark0013]

jail or bail?

 

[ZoSo]

That's an interesting choice; why no neutral status for fod?

Spife: There are only five neutrals. I decided I was going to remove either FoD or Yoshi's because I wanted to have an odd number of neutral stages to ensure that each players gets the same number of strikes. I settled on FoD because it's already banned in teams.

There you have it.

 

[Nygma]

The first match will then be played on Pokefloats the remaining stage.

I just died on the floor laughing. haha haha haha

Good stuff Dave. I'll do my best to attend.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

wtf @ stage rules... that's weird. Also I love FoD.

Anyways I might come to this! Even though it's doubles first... anyone want to team?

 

[SleepyK]

o .

 

[Skler]

FoD is more neutral than YS. YS has the cloud of blatant homosexuality and really tiny blast zones. FoD just has platforms that rise and fall and won't decide to save somebody who shouldn't be able to recover.

I'd say YS tips the neutrals in Fox's favor since it gives him PS, YS and FD (FD being the stage he's least **** on). FoD was a stage where Fox didn't **** hard so I feel like it should be a neutral instead. Keeping FoD and getting rid of YS wouldn't give any top tier more of an advantage.

In teams it wasn't banned due to being imbalanced or anything, it was just so pretty it caused lag.

Plus FoD has amazing music, much better than YS.

Really though, I think FoD is more neutral than YS and a fairer stage pick. It isn't because Link doesn't get ***** on it, it's because no specific character has a huge advantage on it like YS.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

^^ This.

plus the reasoning of having an equal number of strikes at the beginning of a set is weak, too.

 

[Banks]

I really want FoD on neutral, because....it's good for sheik vs fox/falco which is 90% of my sets LOL >___> I'd rather do random for first games, but I won't complain at all beyond this post. *shrug*

All that might not even matter if I can't get a ride... so Skler, Neil, Dazwa....WHO'S GOING AND HOW?! Skler sleep over friday maybe LOL....i don't know if I can get pixel to drive to this because of mass madness, and idk if I even should because we got so lost last time, and I suck at driving/directions period. So yea somebody contact me ASAP about rides! ^__^

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Is this the same place where SNFs were held?

 

[Nygma]

anyone want to team?

Who do you main/use in teams?

I use either Marth or Sheik in teams.

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Everybody, but usually Peach. Are you coming to this? I want to play you in melee for once and not brawl.

 

[trademark0013]

epic fail on my part

already have plans for nov 22

 

[HazZarD]

I wanna go just so I can resume my tournament matches with Zoso

We gotta be up to like Match 32 by now.

 

[Nygma]

If Hazzard is going to this then I have to go.

Diner was too good haha haha

Edit

This is really far for me. Does anyone want to go with me? I'm not going to drive to RI all by myself unless I get some gas pitch in and someone to keep me company. haha

 

[wWw Dazwa]

FoD is more neutral than YS. YS has the cloud of blatant homosexuality and really tiny blast zones. FoD just has platforms that rise and fall and won't decide to save somebody who shouldn't be able to recover.

I'd say YS tips the neutrals in Fox's favor since it gives him PS, YS and FD (FD being the stage he's least **** on). FoD was a stage where Fox didn't **** hard so I feel like it should be a neutral instead. Keeping FoD and getting rid of YS wouldn't give any top tier more of an advantage.

In teams it wasn't banned due to being imbalanced or anything, it was just so pretty it caused lag.

Plus FoD has amazing music, much better than YS.

Really though, I think FoD is more neutral than YS and a fairer stage pick. It isn't because Link doesn't get ***** on it, it's because no specific character has a huge advantage on it like YS.

Dave and I were discussing which stage would be removed (although I alternatively suggested adding DK64/Rainbow Cruise/Pokefloats), but I realized that leaving DL64 on the list without Yoshi's Story ends up tipping the scale towards Peach/Jiggs, where their opponents have one stage they need to strike for recovery purposes but Peach/Jiggs/Samus/really good recovery/etc don't have to deal with the alternative (striking a stage with small boundaries)

I still think adding a stage won't hurt because if people don't want to play there, it won't be played, but if it were to drop to 5 FoD seemed the better candidate to create a balance in the 5 stages.

 

[ZoSo]

The main reason was honestly because FoD is already banned in teams, but also everything Dazwa explained.

Banks, you can still counterpick FoD. You realize that if it were to replace YS on the list of neutrals, any Fox/Falco with a brain would strike it against a Sheik, right?

^^ This.

plus the reasoning of having an equal number of strikes at the beginning of a set is weak, too.

You don't think having three strikes and the deciding pick of the last two stages is a big advantage?

Is this the same place where SNFs were held?

Nope. It's about an hour to the north.

I wanna go just so I can resume my tournament matches with Zoso

We gotta be up to like Match 32 by now.

If you want to bring HBK and Reno I might be able to house you guys.

 

[Cort]

most likely coming weeee

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

The main reason was honestly because FoD is already banned in teams, but also everything Dazwa explained.

as banks said the reason it's banned in teams has nothing to do with gameplay, just that it lags

You don't think having three strikes and the deciding pick of the last two stages is a big advantage?

No I do think it's an advantage but I'd much rather add a stage than take away one. But then that begs the question of DK64 making the list too heavy in peach/jiggs favor... but then again we wouldn't be having this problem if you hadn't messed with the rules
I vote no Zoso weird rule, or adding DK64

Nope. It's about an hour to the north.

ok then maybe I didn't go to a SNF... remember the tourney where you tried to fix my controller? it was only an hour from me and so is this

 

[Roman.]

yeah i'll be there, right spife?

 

[SleepyK]

Cog, they meant DreamLand64, not DonkeyKong64.

 

[Skler]

Light characters still need to deal with Pokemon Stadium and its really low ceiling. I see YS as making the list imbalanced. Every light character will lose DL 64 and they'll have to strike YS and PS. Fox gets his choice of FD or Battlefield each time. At least with FoD on there it becomes a toss up between FoD, FD or BF when it's Fox vs light n floaty.

I personally like the one strike and random rule better, or make it a two strike and random out of the stages that weren't struck. What's wrong with that?

 

[ZoSo]

as banks said the reason it's banned in teams has nothing to do with gameplay, just that it lags

Right, but when it comes time for teams and we remove both Yoshi's and FoD, we run into the same problem of having an even number of stages.

I vote no Zoso weird rule, or adding DK64

It's not my rule.

Also, adding DK64 literally would not change a thing.

Fox gets his choice of FD or Battlefield each time.

And if FoD replaces Yoshi's, not-Fox gets his/her choice of FD or Battlefield?

Also, Battlefield is a terrible stage for spacies.

I personally like the one strike and random rule better, or make it a two strike and random out of the stages that weren't struck. What's wrong with that?

Then we'd either have to have people mess with the random list (I guarantee most people will forget to change it back) or go random over and over until it goes to one of the two possible stages, which kind of wastes time.

I chose this system because I thought it would be interesting to give players a more direct influence on the stage selection.

 

[-Darc-]

FoD has always been only counterpick in Singles tournies anyway. People forget to turn it back on lolol.

 

[wWw Dazwa]

What's wrong with trying something new at a local-sized tournament, anyways? No need to get your panties in a bunch over something that could potentially be more fun/fair.

FoD has always been only counterpick in Singles tournies anyway. PeopleI forget to turn it back on lolol.

fixed. stop turning it off in teams, it's easy to quit out <_<

 

[-Darc-]

I was joking, Dylan.

 

[JFox]

I won't make it to the first event, hopefully I'll be at the next one.

I'm also very interested to see how these rules work out. Zoso- you should probably list the counterpick stages, just to make things more comprehensible.

 

[wWw Dazwa]

I was joking, Dylan.

You might be joking, BUT YOU'RE ALSO TELLING THE TRUTH.

AS AM I.

 

[Banks]

What is the size of the venue anyhow? If people wanted to just straight start BALLIN up in hurr, can this place hold esticle numbers, just out of curiosity?

because just thinking about the game store in maine we have tournies at, if 80 people showed up we'd probably all suffocate LOL