Remaking the Smash Bros. series from the ground-up!

[Mamboo07]

I

I think we can keep the base story, structure and villains of Su b space it just expand it with Nintendo elements

anyway I agree with everything that's been said and I like moving the Rayquza boss up to here. His canon spot could maybe be given to someone else. Our game is bigger already I think we could have two or three more bosses

A couple more new levels as well.

So, here's our results:

• Skyworld is level 2.
• Sea of Clouds and Mushroomy Kingdom are alternate paths depending on if you chose Mario or Kirby
• Rayquaza being either the boss of the levels mentioned above or move the Legendary Pokemon to somewhere way much later on in Subspace.
• Fourth level focusing on Rare characters (Donkey, Diddy, Banjo/Kazooie, and K. Rool)

This is just a placeholder; things might be different depending on what we come up with.

Edit: Let's wait for now

 

[ShadicMCGS]

While we wait for the next job, is the stage list finalised? I wanna be able to get the Brawl stage image done, I just need to get the list first.

 

[Mamboo07]

While we wait for the next job, is the stage list finalised? I wanna be able to get the Brawl stage image done, I just need to get the list first.

Not yet, we've got 40 out of 47 stages left.

7 more to go.

 

[ShadicMCGS]

Not yet, we've got 40 out of 47 stages left.

7 more to go.

We still have 7 stages left to decide. On that subject...

Gaming Fan said 7 stages before, I think they just haven't updated that section yet. At least two stages are down, I dunno on the rest.

 

[GamingFan1997]

So, here's our results:

• Skyworld is level 2.
• Sea of Clouds and Mushroomy Kingdom are alternate paths depending on if you chose Mario or Kirby
• Rayquaza being either the boss of the levels mentioned above or move the Legendary Pokemon to somewhere way much later on in Subspace.
• Fourth level focusing on Rare characters (Donkey, Diddy, Banjo/Kazooie, and K. Rool)

This is just a placeholder; things might be different depending on what we come up with.

Sounds good to me! We can hold a vote on whether the Rayquaza fight will occur in the Sea of Clouds/Mushroomy Kingdom level or a later level (my vote's for the former).

As for our choices for the Mario series enemies, they are:

Job 80: Mario Enemies

• Goomba
• Koopa
• Hammer Bro
• Bullet Bill
• Piranha Plants

Job 80:

• Goomba
• Koopa Troopa
• Koopa Paratroopa
• Hammer Bro.
• Bullet Bill
• Dry Bones

Mario Enemies:
Goomba
Koopa Troopa
Lakitu
Piranha Plant
Boo

My vote's for ShadicMCGS 's enemy choices.

Job #82: Submit a selection of Kirby enemies

Job #83: Vote 3 items that debuted in the actual Brawl
My votes are:

1. Timer
2. Cracker Launcher
3. Gooey Bomb

 

[Mamboo07]

Job 82: Kirby Enemies

• Waddle Dee
• Rocky
• Sword Knight
• Burning Leo
• Kibble Blade
• Knuckle Joe
• Waddle Doo
• Chilly
• Gim
• Simmirror
• Wheelie
• Plasma Wisp
• Scarfy
• Gordo

Job 83: Brawl Items

1. Banana Peel
2. Lightning
3. Smash Ball

 

[darkvortex]

shadic's list. Sea of clouds fight

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

My vote will be Shadic's list

 

[BowserKing]

Shadics List is my vote

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

Kirby enemies:
Waddle Dee
Waddle Doo
Bronto Burt
Hothead
Bonkers
Chilly
Cappy
Kabu
Mumby

 

[ShadicMCGS]

I'm gonna add a Kirby enemy list, since with only two options, I don't think the next job will continue, until we get more options:

• Waddle Dee
• Waddle Doo
• Bronto Burt
• Broom Hatter
• Kabu
• Mumbies
• Poppy Bros Jr.
• Sir Kibble
• Chiller
• Rocky
• Sparky

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

Items:
1. Unira
2. Pitfall
3. Hothead

 

[darkvortex]

1. Lightning
2. Hothead
3. Cracker Launcher

 

[ShadicMCGS]

Job 83:

1. Dragoon
2. Cracker Launcher
3. Smart Bomb

 

[Perkilator]

In order to maybe speed this up, can the next job maybe be “submit 1-4 enemies from each franchise”?

 

[ShadicMCGS]

Ok considering it's been a week, this thread MAY be dead.

 

[BowserKing]

Here are some Pokémon enemies
1.Ratacate
2.Aridos
3.Sharpedo
4.Skunktank

 

[Perkilator]

Here are some Pokémon enemies
1.Ratacate
2.Aridos
3.Sharpedo
4.Skunktank

Whoa, hold up; GamingFan1997 hasn't officially ended the current job yet, let's wait for them.

 

[GamingFan1997]

I apologize for the long delay. Without further ado, here are the nominations for Job #82!

Job 82: Kirby Enemies

• Waddle Dee
• Rocky
• Sword Knight
• Burning Leo
• Kibble Blade
• Knuckle Joe
• Waddle Doo
• Chilly
• Gim
• Simmirror
• Wheelie
• Plasma Wisp
• Scarfy
• Gordo

Kirby enemies:
Waddle Dee
Waddle Doo
Bronto Burt
Hothead
Bonkers
Chilly
Cappy
Kabu
Mumby

I'm gonna add a Kirby enemy list, since with only two options, I don't think the next job will continue, until we get more options:

• Waddle Dee
• Waddle Doo
• Bronto Burt
• Broom Hatter
• Kabu
• Mumbies
• Poppy Bros Jr.
• Sir Kibble
• Chiller
• Rocky
• Sparky

My vote's for ShadicMCGS 's. As for the voting results of Job #83...

• Banana Peel - 3
• Cracker Launcher - 5
• Dragoon - 3
• Gooey Bomb - 1
• Hothead - 3
• Lightning - 5
• Pitfall - 2
• Smart Bomb - 1
• Smash Ball - 1
• Timer - 3
• Urina - 3

The following items have been added!

• Banana Peel
• Cracker Launcher
• Dragoon
• Hothead
• Lightning
• Timer
• Urina

In order to maybe speed this up, can the next job maybe be “submit 1-4 enemies from each franchise”?

Job #84: Submit 1-4 enemies from each franchise
Excluding the Mario and Kirby franchises, since they already got jobs deciding their Adventure Mode enemies. Speaking of which, the votes for the selection of Mario enemies have unanimously been in favor of ShadicMCGS 's enemy selection, so that's what we'll be going with!

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

• Donkey Kong
  • Kremling
  • Zinger
• Legend of Zelda
  • Deku Baba(OoT)
  • Bublin(TP)
  • Stalfos(OoT)
  • Octorok(Wind Waker)
• Metroid
  • Metroid
  • Geemer
• Yoshi
  • Burt
• Pokemon
  • Ekans
  • Koffing
  • Gengar
• Ice Climbers
  • Topi
  • Polar Bear
• Kid Icarus
  • Reaper
  • Monoeye
• Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Crabmeat
  • Buzzbomb
  • Grounder
• Banjo-Kazooie
  • Topper
  • Ug
• Pikmin
  • Bublin
  • Breadbug
  • Burrowing Snagret
• Chibi-Robo
  • Spiderling

 

[Mamboo07]

Job 84: Enemies

Donkey Kong

• Kritters (Green, blue, brown, yellow, and grey variants with different behaviours)
• Zingers (Yellow, orange, pink, green, and red colours with different flight patterns)
• Army
• Manky Kong

Zelda

• Bokoblins (Blue, green, and pink variants)
• Redead
• Deku Plant
• Chuchu (Comes in red, blue, green, and yellow colours)

Metroid

• Metroid (Larva)
• Geemer
• Zebbo
• Skree

Yoshi

• Shy Guys (Normal, Fat, Silts, Mace, Fly, and Flamer variants)
• Clawdaddy
• Lunge Fish
• Harry Hedgehog

Pokemon

• Gastly (Gen 1)
• Donphan (Gen 2)
• Exploud (Gen 3)
• Ambipom (Gen 4)

Kid Icarus

• Reaper
• Monoeye
• Octos
• Pluton

Sonic

• Moto Bug
• Caterkiller
• Mantis
• Rhinobot

Banjo-Kazooie

• Ticker
• Snippet
• Buzzbomb
• Scabby

Pikmin

• Bulborb
• Swooping Snitchbug
• Blowhogs (Firey and Watery)
• Cannon Beetle (Larva)

 

[Perkilator]

Job #84:

Spoiler: Length, obviously

• Donkey Kong
  • Kritter
  • Klaptrap
  • Zinger
• Zelda
  • Darknut
  • Octorok
  • ReDead
• Metroid
  • Metroid
  • Zebesian
• Pokémon
  • Zubat
  • Unown
  • Gulpin
  • Skuntank
• Fire Emblem
  • Bonewalker
  • Mogall
  • Gargoyle
  • Bael
• EarthBound
  • Starman
  • Mecha-Porkies
• Ice Climber
  • Polar Bear
• Kid Icarus
  • Shemum
  • Reaper
  • Eggplant Wizard
• Advance Wars
  • Infantry
  • Tanks
• Pikmin
  • Bulborb
  • Burrowing Snagret
  • Swooping Snitchbug
• R.O.B. Squad
  • R.O.B. Sentry
  • R.O.B. Blaster
  • R.O.B. Launcher

 

[BowserKing]

Ratacate, Aridos, Sharpedo and Skunktank are my Pokémon choices, one per Gen
Also choosing
Kremlins
Klaptraps
Metroids
Polar Bear
Bulborbs
Starman
Monoeye
Reapers
Shyguys
Moto Bugs
ReDeads

 

[ShadicMCGS]

Job 84: Enemies
Donkey Kong

• Kritters
• Manky Kongs
• Klaptraps
• Zingers

The Legend of Zelda

• Moblins
• Octoroks
• Darknuts
• Skulltula

Pokémon

• Zubat (Gen 1)
• Spinarak (Gen 2)
• Duskull (Gen 3)
• Stunky (Gen 4)

Ice Climber

• Topi (not seals)
• Polar Bears

Sonic the Hedgehog

• Crabmeats
• Eggrobos
• Motobugs
• Buzz Bombers

 

[nirvanafan]

Zelda

• LikeLike
• Keese
• Wizzrobe

Fire Emblem

• Enemy Infantry (Sword)
• Enemy Pegsus Knight (Lance)
• Enemy Armor Knight (Axe)
• Enemy Cavalier (Bow)

Pikmin

• Beady Long Legs
• Wollywog

Chibi Robo

• Smogling

Banjo Kazooie

• Colliwobble
• Sir Slush
• Slappa
• Boom Box

 

[darkvortex]

MGS
Genome Soldiers,

 

[GamingFan1997]

Here are the submissions for Job #84!

• Donkey Kong
  • Kremling
  • Zinger
• Legend of Zelda
  • Deku Baba(OoT)
  • Bublin(TP)
  • Stalfos(OoT)
  • Octorok(Wind Waker)
• Metroid
  • Metroid
  • Geemer
• Yoshi
  • Burt
• Pokemon
  • Ekans
  • Koffing
  • Gengar
• Ice Climbers
  • Topi
  • Polar Bear
• Kid Icarus
  • Reaper
  • Monoeye
• Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Crabmeat
  • Buzzbomb
  • Grounder
• Banjo-Kazooie
  • Topper
  • Ug
• Pikmin
  • Bublin
  • Breadbug
  • Burrowing Snagret
• Chibi-Robo
  • Spiderling

Job 84: Enemies

Donkey Kong

• Kritters (Green, blue, brown, yellow, and grey variants with different behaviours)
• Zingers (Yellow, orange, pink, green, and red colours with different flight patterns)
• Army
• Manky Kong

Zelda

• Bokoblins (Blue, green, and pink variants)
• Redead
• Deku Plant
• Chuchu (Comes in red, blue, green, and yellow colours)

Metroid

• Metroid (Larva)
• Geemer
• Zebbo
• Skree

Yoshi

• Shy Guys (Normal, Fat, Silts, Mace, Fly, and Flamer variants)
• Clawdaddy
• Lunge Fish
• Harry Hedgehog

Pokemon

• Gastly (Gen 1)
• Donphan (Gen 2)
• Exploud (Gen 3)
• Ambipom (Gen 4)

Kid Icarus

• Reaper
• Monoeye
• Octos
• Pluton

Sonic

• Moto Bug
• Caterkiller
• Mantis
• Rhinobot

Banjo-Kazooie

• Ticker
• Snippet
• Buzzbomb
• Scabby

Pikmin

• Bulborb
• Swooping Snitchbug
• Blowhogs (Firey and Watery)
• Cannon Beetle (Larva)

Job #84:

Spoiler: Length, obviously

• Donkey Kong
  • Kritter
  • Klaptrap
  • Zinger
• Zelda
  • Darknut
  • Octorok
  • ReDead
• Metroid
  • Metroid
  • Zebesian
• Pokémon
  • Zubat
  • Unown
  • Gulpin
  • Skuntank
• Fire Emblem
  • Bonewalker
  • Mogall
  • Gargoyle
  • Bael
• EarthBound
  • Starman
  • Mecha-Porkies
• Ice Climber
  • Polar Bear
• Kid Icarus
  • Shemum
  • Reaper
  • Eggplant Wizard
• Advance Wars
  • Infantry
  • Tanks
• Pikmin
  • Bulborb
  • Burrowing Snagret
  • Swooping Snitchbug
• R.O.B. Squad
  • R.O.B. Sentry
  • R.O.B. Blaster
  • R.O.B. Launcher

Ratacate, Aridos, Sharpedo and Skunktank are my Pokémon choices, one per Gen
Also choosing
Kremlins
Klaptraps
Metroids
Polar Bear
Bulborbs
Starman
Monoeye
Reapers
Shyguys
Moto Bugs
ReDeads

Job 84: Enemies
Donkey Kong

• Kritters
• Manky Kongs
• Klaptraps
• Zingers

The Legend of Zelda

• Moblins
• Octoroks
• Darknuts
• Skulltula

Pokémon

• Zubat (Gen 1)
• Spinarak (Gen 2)
• Duskull (Gen 3)
• Stunky (Gen 4)

Ice Climber

• Topi (not seals)
• Polar Bears

Sonic the Hedgehog

• Crabmeats
• Eggrobos
• Motobugs
• Buzz Bombers

Zelda

• LikeLike
• Keese
• Wizzrobe

Fire Emblem

• Enemy Infantry (Sword)
• Enemy Pegsus Knight (Lance)
• Enemy Armor Knight (Axe)
• Enemy Cavalier (Bow)

Pikmin

• Beady Long Legs
• Wollywog

Chibi Robo

• Smogling

Banjo Kazooie

• Colliwobble
• Sir Slush
• Slappa
• Boom Box

MGS
Genome Soldiers,

Before we vote on whose enemy choices to go with, we should decide whether we're voting by series (each user's enemy submissions will be voted on a series-by-series basis) or by user (all of an individual user's submissions at once). I'm in favor of the former.

Job #85: Submit a boss from a Nintendo series with a fighter
Job #86: Submit a boss from a Nintendo series without a fighter

 

[Mamboo07]

Going to go with by series which seems fair.

Job 85: Titan Dweevil (Pikmin 2)

The largest member of the Dweevil family, and one of the largest creatures in the Pikmin series.

Attacks

• Flare Cannon
  • The easiest weapon to avoid; it simply sprays flames in a set radius, as it rotates back and forth. When this weapon is damaged, it will spray more of the area than normal.
• Hydro Pump
  • When this weapon is used, it shoots out blasts of water. When the weapon is damaged, it will shoot out water at a faster rate.
• Comedy Bomb
  • When this weapon is used, it will spray three streams of poisonous gas, pointing in different ways, and are at equal distances from each other. The streams move at a constant speed and direction. When it is damaged, it will spray four streams that may change direction spontaneously and randomly.
• Shock Therapist
  • Possibly the toughest weapon to avoid. When used, it will spit out eight electrical "nodes" that will activate after a delay and form multiple arcs of electricity between them that electrocute the fighter who touches them. When this weapon is damaged, the nodes will activate the moment they are released and may move while activated.
• Legs and Pincers
  • Titan Dweevil uses its legs to stomp down and pincers to swipe and slash.

After getting rid of its weapons, it sheds its armour and goes berserk attacking more dangerously.

I imagine this fight being like the battle against Porky from Brawl but with a giant Dweevil instead.
(Two giant spider-like things moving around)

 

[BowserKing]

Submitting Giratina

This Pokémon is quite a deadly one. Its moves include Shadow Force, Shadow Ball, Ancient Power, Dragon Rush, Dragon Breath and Dragon Claw. Once you defeat its main form, it will transform into its altered form.

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

Job 85: Marx (Would work similary to his Ultimate Fight)

 

[Mamboo07]

Job 85: Marx (Would work similary to his Ultimate Fight)

I imagine him being much scarier and creepier which would fit Brawl's gritty style.

 

[Qwerty UIOP]

I imagine him being much scarier and creepier which would fit Brawl's gritty style.

Yeah I think he could be that way

 

[Mamboo07]

Yeah I think he could be that way

True, I think Sakurai said something about that when Marx was a boss in Ultimate.

 

[nirvanafan]

Will submit this idea i had from another thread.

Ashnard

Fire Emblem will likely be on the roster at some point, Ashnard is one of the latest villains at the time with lots of potential with an extended range with his sword & a good mobility being a wyvern rider.

 

[ShadicMCGS]

I'm voting for enemies series-by-series, so that way, the choices aren't lopsided towards one user.

Job #86:
I'm just gonna say Galleom (if he counts), even though it would seem too early to have them in.

By the way, you should probably add this to the first post. I'll make the stages visual eventually.

Anyway, here's the Brawl roster:
View attachment 375944

 

[darkvortex]

by series

Zant (Legend of Zelda)
Hthese The king of twilight. He could be a recurring boss that uses his fights from TP. We already have Midna in here and I think he has a cool design and powered

King Hippo (Punch-Out)
The Punch-Out bosses are really iconic and I think he'd be a fun more light hearted boss. You'd have to attack his belly.

 

[darkvortex]

by series

View attachment 378822
Zant (Legend of Zelda)
Hthese The king of twilight. He could be a recurring boss that uses his fights from TP. We already have Midna in here and I think he has a cool design and powered

View attachment 378823
King Hippo (Punch-Out)
The Punch-Out bosses are really iconic and I think he'd be a fun more light hearted boss. You'd have to attack his belly.

 

[GamingFan1997]

It looks like enemies will be voted in by series! As a reminder, here are the enemy nominations:

• Donkey Kong
  • Kremling
  • Zinger
• Legend of Zelda
  • Deku Baba(OoT)
  • Bublin(TP)
  • Stalfos(OoT)
  • Octorok(Wind Waker)
• Metroid
  • Metroid
  • Geemer
• Yoshi
  • Burt
• Pokemon
  • Ekans
  • Koffing
  • Gengar
• Ice Climbers
  • Topi
  • Polar Bear
• Kid Icarus
  • Reaper
  • Monoeye
• Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Crabmeat
  • Buzzbomb
  • Grounder
• Banjo-Kazooie
  • Topper
  • Ug
• Pikmin
  • Bublin
  • Breadbug
  • Burrowing Snagret
• Chibi-Robo
  • Spiderling

Job 84: Enemies

Donkey Kong

• Kritters (Green, blue, brown, yellow, and grey variants with different behaviours)
• Zingers (Yellow, orange, pink, green, and red colours with different flight patterns)
• Army
• Manky Kong

Zelda

• Bokoblins (Blue, green, and pink variants)
• Redead
• Deku Plant
• Chuchu (Comes in red, blue, green, and yellow colours)

Metroid

• Metroid (Larva)
• Geemer
• Zebbo
• Skree

Yoshi

• Shy Guys (Normal, Fat, Silts, Mace, Fly, and Flamer variants)
• Clawdaddy
• Lunge Fish
• Harry Hedgehog

Pokemon

• Gastly (Gen 1)
• Donphan (Gen 2)
• Exploud (Gen 3)
• Ambipom (Gen 4)

Kid Icarus

• Reaper
• Monoeye
• Octos
• Pluton

Sonic

• Moto Bug
• Caterkiller
• Mantis
• Rhinobot

Banjo-Kazooie

• Ticker
• Snippet
• Buzzbomb
• Scabby

Pikmin

• Bulborb
• Swooping Snitchbug
• Blowhogs (Firey and Watery)
• Cannon Beetle (Larva)

Job #84:

Spoiler: Length, obviously

• Donkey Kong
  • Kritter
  • Klaptrap
  • Zinger
• Zelda
  • Darknut
  • Octorok
  • ReDead
• Metroid
  • Metroid
  • Zebesian
• Pokémon
  • Zubat
  • Unown
  • Gulpin
  • Skuntank
• Fire Emblem
  • Bonewalker
  • Mogall
  • Gargoyle
  • Bael
• EarthBound
  • Starman
  • Mecha-Porkies
• Ice Climber
  • Polar Bear
• Kid Icarus
  • Shemum
  • Reaper
  • Eggplant Wizard
• Advance Wars
  • Infantry
  • Tanks
• Pikmin
  • Bulborb
  • Burrowing Snagret
  • Swooping Snitchbug
• R.O.B. Squad
  • R.O.B. Sentry
  • R.O.B. Blaster
  • R.O.B. Launcher

Ratacate, Aridos, Sharpedo and Skunktank are my Pokémon choices, one per Gen
Also choosing
Kremlins
Klaptraps
Metroids
Polar Bear
Bulborbs
Starman
Monoeye
Reapers
Shyguys
Moto Bugs
ReDeads

Job 84: Enemies
Donkey Kong

• Kritters
• Manky Kongs
• Klaptraps
• Zingers

The Legend of Zelda

• Moblins
• Octoroks
• Darknuts
• Skulltula

Pokémon

• Zubat (Gen 1)
• Spinarak (Gen 2)
• Duskull (Gen 3)
• Stunky (Gen 4)

Ice Climber

• Topi (not seals)
• Polar Bears

Sonic the Hedgehog

• Crabmeats
• Eggrobos
• Motobugs
• Buzz Bombers

Zelda

• LikeLike
• Keese
• Wizzrobe

Fire Emblem

• Enemy Infantry (Sword)
• Enemy Pegsus Knight (Lance)
• Enemy Armor Knight (Axe)
• Enemy Cavalier (Bow)

Pikmin

• Beady Long Legs
• Wollywog

Chibi Robo

• Smogling

Banjo Kazooie

• Colliwobble
• Sir Slush
• Slappa
• Boom Box

MGS
Genome Soldiers,

Now, here are the nominations for bosses...

Job #85:

• Titan Dweevil (Pikmin)
• Giritina (Pokémon)
• Marx (Kirby)
• Ashnard (Fire Emblem)
• Zant (Legend of Zelda)

Job #86:

• Galleom (Super Smash Bros.)
• King Hippo (Punch-Out!!)

You may vote 2 bosses submitted for Job #85 and 1 boss submitted for Job #86. My own votes are:

Job #85:

1. Ashnard
2. Zant

Job #86:

1. Galleom

Job #87: Submit up to 2 new Super Smash Bros. original items
This includes those that were already introduced in Brawl as well as later Smash Bros. games.

 

[Mamboo07]

Job 85

1. Marx
2. Giritina

Job 86

1. Galleom

Job 87

Standard Kart (Mario Kart)
(Would be the one from DS at the time since MK Wii wasn't out yet, the kart could be later on changed to its standard MK8 version for the fourth Smash game)

The kart itself would work like Wario's Bike in Smash, drive around and run over your opponents.
(Also, would come in different colours aka RNG)

Ultra Hand (Nintendo)
It would give the user an extra-long command grab that works on the ground and in the air and would allow the user to tether recover as well.

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

1. Marx
2. Giratina

My vote is for Gelleom