Rayman: Hero of the Glade of Dreams - The Great Escape

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

How would you guys feel if Shantae got in over Rayman?
I would personally feel really sad.

...I like Shantae, and if Rayman were to get in regardless who came first, then it matters none. If she were to get in and Ray not? I'd felt that's still dumb, even if I'd be happy to have her in. Ray is still more reasonable with more history as a character than her, so I wouldn't be to fine with Ray not making it at least.

 

[ArmedShadow]

How would you guys feel if rayman got in over Banjo n Kazooie?

*Wavedashes Back a bit

Now how would you guys feel if banjo n kazooie got in over rayman

 

[louie g]

I like this

I like you, baby.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

How would you guys feel if rayman got in over Banjo n Kazooie?

*Wavedashes Back a bit

Now how would you guys feel if banjo n kazooie got in over rayman

I see where you're getting at...

 

[GaroMaster]

...I like Shantae, and if Rayman were to get in regardless who came first, then it matters none. If she were to get in and Ray not? I'd felt that's still dumb, even if I'd be happy to have her in. Ray is still more reasonable with more history as a character than her, so I wouldn't be to fine with Ray not making it at least.

I mean, there are people who think it would be out of place for Rayman to appear along with the likes of Mega Man and Pac-Man. I disagree wholeheartedly considering that he's the mascot of Ubisoft, one of the biggest companies in gaming.
However, seeing Shantae fight against would feel so out of place for me. Even though she has history on Nintendo consoles, she's not even close to them when it comes to how iconic she is. Not only that, but I don't think any of her games were released in Japan, unlike Rayman.
If Shantae gets in, I'm happy for her fans. However, if she's added at the EXPENSE of Rayman, a part of me would die inside.
Just my thoughts on her. I DON'T WANT HER IN. PERIOD.

 

[ArmedShadow]

btw who got rayman legends for free on xbox one? Sorry playstation

pretty fun game. the first time i played rayman was at my cousins house when i was like 5 idk. it was a green n64 cartridge.

 

[GaroMaster]

...I like Shantae, and if Rayman were to get in regardless who came first, then it matters none. If she were to get in and Ray not? I'd felt that's still dumb, even if I'd be happy to have her in. Ray is still more reasonable with more history as a character than her, so I wouldn't be to fine with Ray not making it at least.

I mean, there are people who think it would be out of place for Rayman to appear along with the likes of Mega Man and Pac-Man. I disagree wholeheartedly considering that he's the mascot of Ubisoft, one of the biggest companies in gaming.
However, seeing Shantae fight against would feel so out of place for me. Even though she has history on Nintendo consoles, she's not even close to them when it comes to how iconic she is. Not only that, but I don't think any of her games were released in Japan, unlike Rayman.
If Shantae gets in, I'm happy for her fans. However, if she's added at the EXPENSE of Rayman, a part of me would die inside.
Just my thoughts on her. I DON'T WANT HER IN IF MEANS RAYMAN CAN'T GET IN.
EDIT: Oops, Sorry about that. Didn't know if it was posted.

 

[AreJay25]

You know, the fact that they went out of their way to get a Commander Video trophy makes me wonder if they have considered adding an indie character. Who knows? Maybe we could get two 3rd party DLC's, as unlikely as it is.

 

[ArmedShadow]

I like you, baby.

I'm blushing.

 

[Rayman4Smash]

Okay, before I call this a night, I'll just leave you people with my latest vote that I made for Rayman on the Smash Bros Ballot. I tried to type in more, but the 500 character limit is a pain.

 

[Manic Rykker]

I mean, there are people who think it would be out of place for Rayman to appear along with the likes of Mega Man and Pac-Man. I disagree wholeheartedly considering that he's the mascot of Ubisoft, one of the biggest companies in gaming.
However, seeing Shantae fight against would feel so out of place for me. Even though she has history on Nintendo consoles, she's not even close to them when it comes to how iconic she is. Not only that, but I don't think any of her games were released in Japan, unlike Rayman.
If Shantae gets in, I'm happy for her fans. However, if she's added at the EXPENSE of Rayman, a part of me would die inside.
Just my thoughts on her. I DON'T WANT HER IN. PERIOD.

Same could be said about the first Fire emblem characters in Smash, Marth and Roy, back in Melee. In reverse actually... While they were of course already fighters in the game, they probably wouldn't have even seen an international release in the first place if Sakurai hadn't went against his fear that they would "alienate the western base".

I can also think of a few other characters that can feel "out of place". Not gonna throw any names though, as many of these also just so happen to be classic icons, and have big followings.

As for the obscurity (which so many use, its not even funny..)..: The Melee fire emblem case, Ice climbers (honestly, who knew these guys at the time they joined Smash?..) and Pit also benefited from inclusion in Smash.

Anyways, who said anyone is getting in over any particular character? Nintendo already stated they obviously won't be able to appeal to everyone's desires... Its not that they don't want to add <insert character name here>.. and honest to god, they and Sakurai try to please the fans. I mean Lucas is coming back for gosh sake... and Mewtwo. If they weren't trying, there wouldn't have been DLC in the first place

Rayman is NOT the only gaming character in this. Many other icons, and good, logical candidates are cropping up in all of this too. I love Rayman to death. I support the concept of him in Smash bros all the way. He is a part of my childhood... but bias toward other, great candidates just doesn't register very well in my mind.

You know, the fact that they went out of their way to get a Commander Video trophy makes me wonder if they have considered adding an indie character. Who knows? Maybe we could get two 3rd party DLC's, as unlikely as it is.

I have still wondered how many characters we could see out of this DLC stuff. Could be a few. Then again it could be more... we just won't know until the far future I guess :/

 

[Spyro839]

How would you guys feel if rayman got in over Banjo n Kazooie?

*Wavedashes Back a bit

Now how would you guys feel if banjo n kazooie got in over rayman

Wavedashes forward a bit

 

[Spyro839]

Okay, before I call this a night, I'll just leave you people with my latest vote that I made for Rayman on the Smash Bros Ballot. I tried to type in more, but the 500 character limit is a pain.

I used up all the 500 character limit when I voted for inkling

 

[ArmedShadow]

I didn't type that much for banjo. i just made it clear that the passion is strong with this one.

 

[GaroMaster]

So, I have this weird thing with King K. Rool and Rayman.
You see, I think these two are very likely to be DLC, but at the same time, I also think they're unlikely.
I mean, they have a lot going for them. Both are highly demanded newcomers to be added, both already have trophies, both are pretty iconic among retro gamers, and both are very well known among the Nintendo faithful.
However, there's one thing that could prove to be a hurdle for these two:
Both of them were created by Western developers.
This applies more so to Rayman because unlike K. Rool, Rayman is obscure in Japan. The fact that he is a third party makes matters even worse for him. Sure, Rayman Legends was a Wii U exclusive in Japan, but he didn't have the liberty of being a part of a franchise that's well known in Japan.
If Sakurai is going to try please the Smash fans in the West, Rayman has a good chance and so does K. Rool. However, if he is trying to please the Japanese Smash fans, then it's going to take a TON of votes to convince Sakurai that Rayman is viable enough.
And unlike Little Mac, whose franchise was created by Japanese devs, all of Rayman were developed by French devs.
It's been a worry of mine because there was a rumor that Miyamoto hated the original DKC. Could this very well apply to Sakurai in terms of not just Donkey Kong, but for Rayman?

 

[Manic Rykker]

So, I have this weird thing with King K. Rool and Rayman.
You see, I think these two are very likely to be DLC, but at the same time, I also think they're unlikely.
I mean, they have a lot going for them. Both are highly demanded newcomers to be added, both already have trophies, both are pretty iconic among retro gamers, and both are very well known among the Nintendo faithful.
However, there's one thing that could prove to be a hurdle for these two:
Both of them were created by Western developers.
This applies more so to Rayman because unlike K. Rool, Rayman is obscure in Japan. The fact that he is a third party makes matters even worse for him. Sure, Rayman Legends was a Wii U exclusive in Japan, but he didn't have the liberty of being a part of a franchise that's well known in Japan.
If Sakurai is going to try please the Smash fans in the West, Rayman has a good chance and so does K. Rool. However, if he is trying to please the Japanese Smash fans, then it's going to take a TON of votes to convince Sakurai that Rayman is viable enough.
And unlike Little Mac, whose franchise was created by Japanese devs, all of Rayman were developed by French devs.
It's been a worry of mine because there was a rumor that Miyamoto hated the original DKC. Could this very well apply to Sakurai in terms of not just Donkey Kong, but for Rayman?

In terms of normal circumstances, I'd say Sakurai bias could be a problem.

However, considering this stuff is more than likely gonna be paid DLC,.. and if the character/s get a lot of votes (and are logical, non-Joke characters), and Sakurai tried to just say no...

Yeah I don't think we have to worry about that XD

Side edit Note: By the way hope I wasn't too stern in that last remark.. I mean I want Rayman in Smash.. but I also would love to see Shantae. and Banjo & Kazooie for that matter. With all the unfounded crap I've been seeing against Shantae, I'm not even sure who I want in more anymore.. :/

 

[GaroMaster]

In terms of normal circumstances, I'd say Sakurai bias could be a problem.

However, considering this stuff is more than likely gonna be paid DLC,.. and if the character/s get a lot of votes (and are logical, non-Joke characters), and Sakurai tried to just say no...

Yeah I don't think we have to worry about that XD

Side edit Note: By the way hope I wasn't too stern in that last remark.. I mean I want Rayman in Smash.. but I also would love to see Shantae. and Banjo & Kazooie for that matter. With all the unfounded crap I've been seeing against Shantae, I'm not even sure who I want in more anymore.. :/

What I mean is, I'm not worried about Sakurai hating DKC. What I'm worried about is whether or not he likes Western games.
Sure, he did say he like the DLC in Fallout 3 as well as Steam, but what about Rayman? I mean, he is highly demanded in the West, but is obscure in Japan. The fact that he's a third party means that Sakurai will be more hesitant to the idea of Rayman being in Smash.
It worries me so much. I mean, if he doesn't get added as DLC, Rayman will probably never appear in another Smash game. His situation couldn't have been better today.
The question is..... can we convince Sakurai? Us foreigners?

 

[Manic Rykker]

What I mean is, I'm not worried about Sakurai hating DKC. What I'm worried about is whether or not he likes Western games.
Sure, he did say he like the DLC in Fallout 3 as well as Steam, but what about Rayman? I mean, he is highly demanded in the West, but is obscure in Japan. The fact that he's a third party means that Sakurai will be more hesitant to the idea of Rayman being in Smash.
It worries me so much. I mean, if he doesn't get added as DLC, Rayman will probably never appear in another Smash game. His situation couldn't have been better today.
The question is..... can we convince Sakurai? Us foreigners?

The same thing applies to Shantae, who as many say "is obscure"... She hasn't seen releases in Japan.. (of course Smash could help with that)

Anyway, as one last thing for the night... I was also kinda hoping Rayman would have already been in the works... for two reasons actually.

1. Because obviously I really want to see him in the game, and he is a part of my childhood

2. So other characters would be the primary focus of this whole thing

I mean since the Rayman leak, the desire for the guy has been bigger than ever. Which is awesome. I just... really hope it doesn't shadow other people's desires.. and the chances for other good, and deserving candidates to get in.. you know? Obviously, we are all in this for the same reason everyone else is in this. We want a character we love, and for many, is a part of our childhood, to be in one of the biggest celebrations of gaming of all time. This was one of the reasons I could never just focus on just one fighter. Its also one of the reasons I DESPERATELY hope we will be getting more than one DLC character out of this ballot..

 

[AreJay25]

What I mean is, I'm not worried about Sakurai hating DKC. What I'm worried about is whether or not he likes Western games.
Sure, he did say he like the DLC in Fallout 3 as well as Steam, but what about Rayman? I mean, he is highly demanded in the West, but is obscure in Japan. The fact that he's a third party means that Sakurai will be more hesitant to the idea of Rayman being in Smash.
It worries me so much. I mean, if he doesn't get added as DLC, Rayman will probably never appear in another Smash game. His situation couldn't have been better today.
The question is..... can we convince Sakurai? Us foreigners?

I feel that the fact that he bothered to recognize Rayman in trophy form is a sign that he at least cares. That's more than what can be said for other third parties. I think that enough votes could convince him, even if Rayman's not too popular in Japan.

 

[GaroMaster]

The same thing applies to Shantae, who as many say "is obscure"... She hasn't seen releases in Japan.. (of course Smash could help with that)

Anyway, as one last thing for the night... I was also kinda hoping Rayman would have already been in the works... for two reasons actually.

1. Because obviously I really want to see him in the game, and he is a part of my childhood

2. So other characters would be the primary focus of this whole thing

I mean since the Rayman leak, the desire for the guy has been bigger than ever. Which is awesome. I just... really hope it doesn't shadow other people's desires.. and the chances for other good, and deserving candidates to get in.. you know? Obviously, we are all in this for the same reason everyone else is in this. We want a character we love, and for many, is a part of our childhood, to be in one of the biggest celebrations of gaming of all time. This was one of the reasons I could never just focus on just one fighter. Its also one of the reasons I DESPERATELY hope we will be getting more than one DLC character out of this ballot..

Agreed. At least he has a model in the game. That has to count for something, right?
Anyway, good night, pal. Take care.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

How would you guys feel if Shantae got in over Rayman?
I would personally feel really sad.

I like Shantae, wouldn't mind having her, over Rayman though? No.

 

[HotNTasty]

How would you guys feel if Shantae got in over Rayman?
I would personally feel really sad.

How would you guys feel if rayman got in over Banjo n Kazooie?

*Wavedashes Back a bit

Now how would you guys feel if banjo n kazooie got in over rayman

Two of my three biggest supports, and only supports, (now that mewtwo is back in) are Rayman and B&K. Naturally, I'd love to see both of them. However I will be ecstatic to merely see one of them in and will go on supporting the other. If Shantae were to get in over both of them I wouldn't mind, granted I prefer for the former duo to make it in. Mostly I'd be happy that said poll was this successful and got such an obscure 3rd party character in, which gives me even more hopes for Ray and B&K.

 

[NovemberMan]

How would you guys feel if Shantae got in over Rayman?
I would personally feel really sad.

I would still feel empty inside.

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

Even though I've warmed up to the idea of Shantae I don't really want her in. It just she's only had one game so far. Even though she getting a newer one its not getting all that promoted by Nintendo at all like Splatoon is or other third parties getting promoted. Isn't her next game going multiplat? I just think the chances of an indie character getting in at all are really slim. The company WayFoward isn't all that close to Nintendo, I think if we're going to get third party from the Ballot Sakuari wants to stick to trend that he's created and just let it be classic characters. She would just seem so out of place compared to other third parties that we already have in Smash. If anything SHE would feel more out of place than Rayman.

 

[AreJay25]

@ PrettyIvyPearls22 She's had 3 games released, actually. Just thought I'd clear that up.

 

[Jaster]

Oh.. why.. Why people can be so ignorant?

Using insults and bad words, I hope that those guys, one day will learn that they're diferent teams working on the different titles for Ubisoft, and that the character isn't the same that the company.

I hope that he falls off of the Koopa Clown Car

 

[AndreaAC]

Oh.. why.. Why people can be so ignorant?

Using insults and bad words, I hope that those guys, one day will learn that they're diferent teams working on the different titles for Ubisoft, and that the character isn't the same that the company.

I hope that he falls off of the Koopa Clown Car

Um, I didn't see all the video, but, this was pretty silly, and even if it is, I wouldn't get upset because of it, I would just ignore anything he has to say, just like I did with the Shokio guy videos regarding Ridley.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Um, I didn't see all the video, but, this was pretty silly, and even if it is, I wouldn't get upset because of it, I would just ignore anything he has to say, just like I did with the Shokio guy videos regarding Ridley.

Exactly, that was my first thought. If anything, it's just for attention.

 

[Jaster]

Of course is better to ignore it, but I didn't know how can people make videos just to screw characters to be in Smash (or at least, it's the first that I've seen).

 

[Rayman4Smash]

How would you guys feel if Shantae got in over Rayman?
I would personally feel really sad.

I would tell those fanboys: "Good for you then. I hope you're happy in getting your character in over ours, even though Rayman has been around longer and has more games on Nintendo consoles. Enjoy her while you can, because I'm not wasting my money on her!"

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Of course is better to ignore it, but I didn't know how can people make videos just to screw characters to be in Smash (or at least, it's the first that I've seen).

Well, you haven't seen a lot then. This is all you'll see in regards to any character having even the slightest of a chance or is highly talked about, like Ridley, King K Rool, Mewtwo, etc during Smash 4 speculation.

 

[AndreaAC]

Of course is better to ignore it, but I didn't know how can people make videos just to screw characters to be in Smash (or at least, it's the first that I've seen).

Oh there have been plenty of those...again, as a former Ridley supporter for Smash, this Shokio and another guy made those kind of videos, over and over, so, I'm not surprised there's one for Rayman now that he gained a lot of attention.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Oh god, there's a Rayman version of Shokio?


Damn people think they own the game.

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

Um, I didn't see all the video, but, this was pretty silly, and even if it is, I wouldn't get upset because of it, I would just ignore anything he has to say, just like I did with the Shokio guy videos regarding Ridley.

I didn't watch the whole video, but just looking at the title alone it said that Ubisoft was begging for Rayaman in Smash. A lot of other companies now are offering their own characters it's not just Ubisoft. Since the Ballot I think Ubisoft was one of the few companies that didn't promote the ballot right away, until actually asked about it. Besides Rayman is one of the few third parities that's pretty popular in the ballot. Along with Snake, Simon Belmont, Banjo-Kazooie, Bayonetta I don't see Bayonetta ever happening only because didn't the director of Bayonetta say that even he didn't want to see her in Smash?

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

I didn't watch the whole video, but just looking at the title alone it said that Ubisoft was begging for Rayaman in Smash. A lot of other companies now are offering their own characters it's not just Ubisoft. Since the Ballot I think Ubisoft was one of the few companies that didn't promote the ballot right away, until actually asked about it. Besides Rayman is one of the few third parities that's pretty popular in the ballot. Along with Snake, Simon Belmont, Banjo-Kazooie, Bayonetta I don't see Bayonetta ever happening only because didn't the director of Bayonetta say that even he didn't want to see her in Smash?

I think it's more he hates all the spamming of requests that he had to deal with, not that. But I still don't think he cares if she were to get in, but nothing saying he supports it like what Ubisoft and such are doing.

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

I think it's more he hates all the spamming of requests that he had to deal with, not that. But I still don't think he cares if she were to get in, but nothing saying he supports it like what Ubisoft and such are doing.

The spamming on Twitter on his page seems overbearing I can understand why he'd get annoyed.

 

[louie g]

The clown mobile's expression is amazing

 

[ThePenguinGamer0]

Oh.. why.. Why people can be so ignorant?

Using insults and bad words, I hope that those guys, one day will learn that they're diferent teams working on the different titles for Ubisoft, and that the character isn't the same that the company.

I hope that he falls off of the Koopa Clown Car

Rayman Team =/= Ubisoft.

End of story.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Made some minor edits to the OP, should look tidier now.

 

[GaroMaster]

Still waiting for you to make this happen, Sakurai.