Rate Their Chances- Smash Ultimate Day 349: First Party characters after the Fighters Pass

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In case TCT put it to a vote or something, I definitely think Captain Toad should be marked as disconfirmed.
 

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Nihilego

Chance: 1%
It's unclear if we'll be getting a Pokemon rep at all this time around. Even if we are, Nihilego has a ton of competition with Incineroar, Decidueye, and Lycanroc (all of which are arguably way more popular). Not to mention it also has to deal with Buzzwole in regards to Ultra Beast reps.

Want: 0%
Nothing about Nihilego interests me and the fact that it could potentially take a better deserving Gen VII Pokemon's slot makes me want it even less. It's the type of Pokemon you would expect from a pokeball (or in this case beast ball), not as an actual character.

Nominations:
Terry Bogard x10
 
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Nihilego

Chance: 10%

The main factor supporting its inclusion is that it had a rather prominent story role in Sun and Moon as the only story relevant UB, but beside that, I'm doubtful about this Pokemon. It still has to compete with far more popular choices like Decidueye, Incineroar, Lyncanroc, Tapu Koko, and some other prominent Alola Pokemon. I don't think its concept makes it appealing alone, at least if we're to take into account that Sakurai decided on the roster back in 2015 and most likely had to choose a rep based on concept art like he did with Greninja back then.

Want: 20%

Nihilego could have an interesting moveset that uses a mix of Rock and Poison-type attacks, and the whole parasitic thing could be interesting too (perhaps they might even bring Lusamine in for its Final Smash where it turns into Beast Lusamine and proceeds to go nuts on its foes).

Other than that, I'm not that keen on Nihilego. I'm largely indifferent to it, and I have other UBs that I prefer. Not only that, but I think it might be more appropriate as a Poke Ball summon. I can see it playing out like the Metroid Assist Trophy where it latches onto foes and starts accumulating damage on its victim.

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Predictions

Katrielle Layton (Professor Layton): 1.22%

I don't see her getting in over her far more famous dad.

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Nominations

Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney): x10
 
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Nihiligo

Chance 8%
It's certainly possible, it was the first Ultra Beast. But I think they'd sooner pick a different Pokemon.
Want 15%
I wouldn't mind it, I think there are better choices but I think there are worst options too.

Katrielle Layton 1.25%

Nominate no more stages xMax
 
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Nihiligo

Chance: 1%
Ignoring Vergeben, it has too much competition. Decidueye, Lycanroc, Incinaroar, Tapu Koko and Buzzwhole are all strong contenders. I've also been considering the possibility of us not getting a Pokemon newcomer at all or us not getting someone from gen 7.

Want: ABSTAIN

Katrielle Layton: 1.69%

Punch Out newcomer x10
 
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Rowlet x210

Over 200

Concept: Hanafuda Character x207

200 - 151

Ray x198
Balloon Fighter x190
DeMille x188
Papyrus x180
Terry Bogard x167
Concept: Disconfirmed Characters as DLC x165
Concept: Fire Emblem Spear User x163
Louie x160
Concept: All-Star Versus x158
Tsubasa Oribe x155
Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x155
Fire Emblem Three Houses Protagonist x155

150 - 101

Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x150
Concept: More than five unique newcomers (excl. Ridley/Daisy/Inkling) x150
Stage: Poke Floats x130
Barbara x122
Klonoa x117
2B x116
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x114
Item: Beast Ball x112
Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia) x110
Concept: Pikmin Newcomer x110
Raiden x105
Susie x104
Daroach x102
Tora & Poppi x102

100 - 51

Rick/Cool/Kine x99
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x96
Viewtiful Joe x95
Gooey x94
Edelgard x90
Jin Kazama x90
Concept: Only 4-6 newcomers for base roster x85
Fjorm x80
Nathan Drake x80
Veronica x73
Project Zero/Fatal Frame Protagonist x72
Yu Narakumi x71
No More Stages x70
Item: Breidablik x65
Zeraora (Pokemon) x64
Toon Zelda x64
Endou Mamoru x62
9-Volt x62
Concept: Historical Character x60
Frank West x60
Gardevoir x60
Slime x58
Concept: Shin Megami Tensei Character x55
Concept: Punch Out Newcomer x55
Concept: Wars Characters x53

50 - 25

Takumi (Fire Emblem) x50
Chorus Kids x50
Concept: Metroidvania-like Adventure Mode x50
Dovahkiin x50
[Rerate] Spyro x45
Rhythm Girl x40
Stage: Ultra Space x35
Assist Trophy: Chun-Li x35
Black Knight as a boss character x30
Dixie Kong & Kiddy Kong x25
Blacephalon (Pokemon) x25

Under 25

Adeleine x24
Master Chief x20
Concept: Break the Targets & Board the Platforms stage builder x20
[Rerate] Concept: Zelda newcomer x20
Guzma x20
Sans as a boss character x20
Hilda (The Legend of Zelda) x20
Amaterasu x20
Sub-Zero x17
Earthworm Jim x15
Concept: Modern Kirby Stage (Post Kirby Air Ride) x15
Concept: Custom Moves return x15
Concept: Custom Alternate Colors x15
Alexandra Roivas x15
Ryuhi (Flying Dragon) x10
Metal Sonic x10
Dr. Lobe (Big Brain Academy) x10
Cross (Xenoblade Chronicles X) x10
Break the Targets x10
Protector (Etrian Odyssey) x10
Reimu Hakurei x10
Concept: Dragon Quest content x10
Volleyball Girl (NES Volleyball) x8
Stage: Gyromite Stage x5
Nia x5
Concept: Xenoblade newcomer x5
Concept: Valve Newcomer x5
Concept: SR388 Stage x5
Concept: Playable Indie Character x5
Blaze the Cat x5
Alm x5
[Rerate] Octolings x5
[Rerate] Gengar x5
Yandere Chan (Yandere Simulator) x5
Concept: Team Rocket as a Pokémon Trainer Echo x5
King Hippo x4
Donbe and Hikari (Shin Onigashima) x4
Diskun x1

Django overtakes Thwomp and Linkle and gets to second place, Phoenix Wright overtakes Rowlet and ties with Reinhardt getting a trophy for fifth.

The concept of a Hanafuda character goes over 200 nominations. It is currently the only nominee with over 200 not in the top 7.

Gardevoir and the concept of a Punch-Out newcomer each break past 50 noms.

The Black Knight as a boss character cuts past 25 nominations.

New challengers include Amaterasu (20 noms), Protector from Etrian Odyssey, Reimu Hakurei and Concept: Dragon Quest content (10 noms each), and the concept of Team Rocket as an Echo Fighter of Pokémon Trainer (5 noms).

PapillonXtreme PapillonXtreme Heihachi is already scheduled to be rated, and as such nominations for him will not be counted. However, after he is rated you can nominate him for a rerate if you so desire.

Indefinite Minimum Indefinite Minimum Dragonite has been disconfirmed, as he has been shown to be a stage element in Kalos Pokémon League. He was not removed on anyone’s whim, and nominations for him will not be counted.

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Now for today’s... day.

Abstaining from Nihilego, don’t know anything about it.

Kat prediction: 1.05%

Nominations: NintenX5
RayX5
 
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Nihilego
Chance: 5%
Want: 50%

I'm indifferent.


Noms:
Metroidvania-like adventure mode x10

Katrielle Layton prediction: 7.03%
 

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Nihilego

Chance: 5%
This Ultra Beast has so many competitions: Decidueye, Incineroar, Lycanroc and possibly his fellow Ultra Beast, Buzzwole. It's either we get one of these four Pokemon or nothing at all and skip to Gen 8 Pokemon.

Want: 20%
Eh, it's not my favorite Ultra Beast overall. If we're getting a Gen 7 Pokemon, it's definitely not Nihilego, that's for sure.

Nominations:
Jin Kazama x10
 

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Chance: 5%

Bleh? Too much competition.

Want: 50%

Ultra Beasts are one of the best things in Pokemon. And Nihilego's the most fascinating Pokemon lorewise to me. I'd love it but I'd rather Incineroar cause the big lug deserves it.
 

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Nihelgo

Chance: 4%
It's visually distinct and represents some of Gen 7's memorable aspects, but it'd also might be tough to implement as a fighter because of it's unique body. Every Pokemon also has that possibility of being a Pokeball Pokemon.

Want: 70%
I'd enjoy having a non-standard body shape Pokemon as a fighter. And it's pretty neat to use in game, too. I like this idea.
 
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Nihelgo

Chance: 0%
She doesn't have the look of a playable character. But she could work as a pokeball.

Want: 0%
I don't like Ultra Beast (Buzzwole is the only one that i find cool) at all.
 

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Nihelgo
Chance: 0%
I like pokemon however this ultra has too much competition for being playable, Inciniroar, Decidueye and even Buzzwole to a name a few. If it was going to appear in any way the best bets are as a pokeball or just a trophy.

Want: 30%
It has an interesting design but if any ultra beast was going to be picked I'd say it would be Buzzwole.
 

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Nihilego

Chance: 5%

Very unlikely pick, all things considering.

Want: 60%

This percentage is for a new pokemon rep, assuming we get one at all, since i don't really like the idea of decidueye or incineroar. Buzzwole would likely work better, but i'd much prefer nihilego to the common picks.
 
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Nihilego never gets enough credit when we discuss Gen 7 reps. It is a plot important Pokémon, more plot important than the other Pokémon from the same Gen. It's not a starter, but there was always a decent chance we wouldn't get a starter. The concept of using poison, more specifically doing something like using Sludge Wave on the ground and damaging opponents who walk over it, would be completely new. Nihilego also has tentacles to work with for grabbing.

Want: 60%

Since Mimikyu is deconfirmed, it's my choice for a Gen 7 Pokémon. Not my choice for a Pokémon though.
 

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Nihilego
Chance 4%
Very interesting choice for the more-likely-than-not-but-not-guaranteed Gen 7 rep. That said, I do believe Verge right now, and believe there will be one. But I also lean towards the fan consensus that Incineroar is the golden boy for this, and if the community is wrong about that pick the competition is still fierce. Nihilego isn't even the most popular or visually appealing among Ultra Beasts, though it does have story relevance in its favor.

Nominations: Amaterasu x10
 
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Nihilego
chance
If pokemon gets a new rep it would be a gen 7 Pokemon and there is still a lot of competion already. I think we will see Incernoroar or Decideye before Nihilego but I stil won't count it out.
25%

want
could be fun and interesting to get out of new starter Pokemon for each smash but I still want Decideye and Incenoar more
30%

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rick cool and kine x10
 

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Nihilego
Chance: 5%
Want: 5%

A pick that's obviously ignored by a lot of people. Buzzwole is seen as the favorite to get into Smash among all the Ultra Beasts. I say the one advantage Nihilego has is that it appears in Sun and Moon's main story as a boss by itself, and multiple copies of it fusing with Lusamine to create "Mother Beast." All the others you weren't made to seek out until postgame. I have no idea what differences there are in the treatment of Ultra Beasts in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon other than Necrozma hijacking the plot. I have my own preferred Gen VII pokemon pick, and even among Ultra Beasts, my preference is with Buzzwole.

Nominations
Rowlet x10
 

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Rowlet x210

Over 200

Concept: Hanafuda Character x207

200 - 151

Ray x198
Balloon Fighter x190
DeMille x188
Papyrus x180
Terry Bogard x167
Concept: Disconfirmed Characters as DLC x165
Concept: Fire Emblem Spear User x163
Louie x160
Concept: All-Star Versus x158
Tsubasa Oribe x155
Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x155
Fire Emblem Three Houses Protagonist x155

150 - 101

Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x150
Concept: More than five unique newcomers (excl. Ridley/Daisy/Inkling) x150
Stage: Poke Floats x130
Barbara x122
Klonoa x117
2B x116
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x114
Item: Beast Ball x112
Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia) x110
Concept: Pikmin Newcomer x110
Raiden x105
Susie x104
Daroach x102
Tora & Poppi x102

100 - 51

Rick/Cool/Kine x99
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x96
Viewtiful Joe x95
Gooey x94
Edelgard x90
Jin Kazama x90
Concept: Only 4-6 newcomers for base roster x85
Fjorm x80
Nathan Drake x80
Veronica x73
Project Zero/Fatal Frame Protagonist x72
Yu Narakumi x71
No More Stages x70
Item: Breidablik x65
Zeraora (Pokemon) x64
Toon Zelda x64
Endou Mamoru x62
9-Volt x62
Concept: Historical Character x60
Frank West x60
Gardevoir x60
Slime x58
Concept: Shin Megami Tensei Character x55
Concept: Punch Out Newcomer x55
Concept: Wars Characters x53

50 - 25

Takumi (Fire Emblem) x50
Chorus Kids x50
Concept: Metroidvania-like Adventure Mode x50
Dovahkiin x50
[Rerate] Spyro x45
Rhythm Girl x40
Stage: Ultra Space x35
Assist Trophy: Chun-Li x35
Black Knight as a boss character x30
Dixie Kong & Kiddy Kong x25
Blacephalon (Pokemon) x25

Under 25

Adeleine x24
Master Chief x20
Concept: Break the Targets & Board the Platforms stage builder x20
[Rerate] Concept: Zelda newcomer x20
Guzma x20
Sans as a boss character x20
Hilda (The Legend of Zelda) x20
Amaterasu x20
Sub-Zero x17
Earthworm Jim x15
Concept: Modern Kirby Stage (Post Kirby Air Ride) x15
Concept: Custom Moves return x15
Concept: Custom Alternate Colors x15
Alexandra Roivas x15
Ryuhi (Flying Dragon) x10
Metal Sonic x10
Dr. Lobe (Big Brain Academy) x10
Cross (Xenoblade Chronicles X) x10
Break the Targets x10
Protector (Etrian Odyssey) x10
Reimu Hakurei x10
Concept: Dragon Quest content x10
Volleyball Girl (NES Volleyball) x8
Stage: Gyromite Stage x5
Nia x5
Concept: Xenoblade newcomer x5
Concept: Valve Newcomer x5
Concept: SR388 Stage x5
Concept: Playable Indie Character x5
Blaze the Cat x5
Alm x5
[Rerate] Octolings x5
[Rerate] Gengar x5
Yandere Chan (Yandere Simulator) x5
Concept: Team Rocket as a Pokémon Trainer Echo x5
King Hippo x4
Donbe and Hikari (Shin Onigashima) x4
Diskun x1

Django overtakes Thwomp and Linkle and gets to second place, Phoenix Wright overtakes Rowlet and ties with Reinhardt getting a trophy for fifth.

The concept of a Hanafuda character goes over 200 nominations. It is currently the only nominee with over 200 not in the top 7.

Gardevoir and the concept of a Punch-Out newcomer each break past 50 noms.

The Black Knight as a boss character cuts past 25 nominations.

New challengers include Amaterasu (20 noms), Protector from Etrian Odyssey, Reimu Hakurei and Concept: Dragon Quest content (10 noms each), and the concept of Team Rocket as an Echo Fighter of Pokémon Trainer (5 noms).

PapillonXtreme PapillonXtreme Heihachi is already scheduled to be rated, and as such nominations for him will not be counted. However, after he is rated you can nominate him for a rerate if you so desire.

Indefinite Minimum Indefinite Minimum Dragonite has been disconfirmed, as he has been shown to be a stage element in Kalos Pokémon League. He was not removed on anyone’s whim, and nominations for him will not be counted.

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Now for today’s... day.

Abstaining from Nihilego, don’t know anything about it.

Kat prediction: 1.05%

Nominations: NintenX5
RayX5
lol as if

Nihilego
Chance: 0%
It's technically not even a Pokemon

Want: 100%
It happens to be my favorite ultra beast

Nominations:
Count Umbhrala x5
 

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Nihilego

Chance 5%
It's an important Pokémon to the plot of Sun and Moon, but it faces competition from other Gen 7 Pokémon (Lycanroc, Primarina, Decidueye, Incineroar, Tape Koko)

Want 0%
There are other Pokémon I'd want instead, and in terms of Ultra Beasts I'd prefer Pheromosa, or Buzzwole.

Nomination:
Amaterasu x10
 
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Nihilego

Chance: 1% - Perhaps the most notable Ultra Beast, given the events in the games, but I still don't think that really gives it much in its favor.

Want: 0% - Not really a fan of an Ultra Beast being the playable Pokemon from Gen VII, nor do I really have any interest in Nihilego.

Nominations: All to Deconfirmed Character DLC
 
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Niheligo

Chance: 30: Not going to totally right it off, but I don't think it's happening either. There are a lot of other Pokemon choices that would be better picks.

Want: 0: Like I said, there a lot of Pokemon that would be better picks. I also don't really see anyone asking for Niheligo too much compared to others.

Nomination: Nathan Drake x 10
 
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Nihilego

Chance: 10%
As the one Ultra Beast most plot importance in Pokemon Sun/Moon, Nihilego may seem to have a limb up its fellow UBs. But Pokemon candidates have almost never been decided by their relevance to the games, and Nihilego doesn't stand out enough by itself to make that a worthwhile plus. Sure, it's a levitating jellyfish.

Want: 25%
No reason to be picky about who the Gen 7 is now, when it's such a long-standing mystery that people are starting to wonder if we'll get one at all. While Nihilegonot the most popular creature to invade Alola, it's weird enough to make for an interesting moveset, especially if the goal is to pick something unique to Alola in particular.


Prediction
Katrielle Layton: 1.2%

Nominations
Guzma x10
 

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Nihilego (Pokémon series)
Chances: 48%
I've been waiting for this one for quite a while, because I truly feel it's a possible playable Pokémon inclusion that people tend to overlook. Now, I'm of the opinion that I don't think we will be getting a Pokémon newcomer for this game, but if we were... I reckon it'll be an Ultra Beast. I believe their are factors going against a few of the more popular recommendations from Gen 7, whereas I believe Nihilego has quite a few factors in it's favour.​

For starters, there is it's story importance. If Sakurai were to be considering characters based on concept art again, then I can see Nihilego having a fair few available thanks to it's bigger role within Pokémon Sun and Moon. As an Ultra Beast, it's very vibe and appearance stands out from most Pokémon, and I feel this distinctiveness would do well among the playable Pokémon line-up. Some have remarked that it doesn't have the look of a playable character or how it has an odd body type, but I feel those elements are in Nihilego's favour. It's odd and unusual, which means it'll look and feel different from the rest of the roster; it has potential to be a more unique addition to SSB with a unique move-set to match. Be it's odd movements, rock and poison move-pool (perhaps poison a foe to increase the strength of Venoshock, set up Tonix Spikes/Stealth Rocks, etcetera), or tentacles; I can see Nihilego being a memorable addition that could set itself apart from the already massive cast of SSB.​

Want: 51%
I do not like Nihilego, or Ultra Beasts, or even Pokémon Sun and Moon very much... but out of all the ideas thrown about for a Gen 7 addition, Nihilego is the one that interests me the most. Sure, I'd rather no new Pokémon newcomer, but if we get one then I feel it should at least try to represent something more than a bog-standard Pokémon (Greninja). An Ultra Beast I feel would do just that, and whilst there are plenty to choose from, I feel Nihilego would be the most unique and worthy thanks to it's odd design (compared to characters already in SSB), movements and story role. Again, hoping for no new Pokémon newcomer, but I'd find Nihilego to be an okay inclusion.​

Tying my darnedest to get this character(s) rated sooner, I shall be once again throwing all my nominations to a single support thread:
Nominations: x10 Fatal Frame Protagonist
 

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Saber alter is a godamn monster in mugen so moveset is definitely not the reason for her exclusion.
And there is so much she could do with wind properties. It would be hard to recreate her faithfully without being extremely broken. Would it be fun to play as nerfed saber? She has multiple appearances in fighting games, but they play way different than smash bros.

Hypothetically they would need to add a weakness. She has speed, power, agility, defense (armor), range, an invisible weapon, wind, projectiles. I think one way to set her up would be to make her the opposite of lucario. Make her get weaker over time, with more damage, with unleashing big attacks. She would have a limited supply of "mana" and it would force the player to play carefully, not waste attacks. It rewards good players, but punishes hard if you can't close out the stock. Maybe you could get her to take off her armor to conserve mana and provide a small boost in strength and speed as a strategy for players to consider. (But taking off armor could cost you more mana if you take bigger damage.)
It might be impossible for ultimate, but definitely doable for super smash flash 2 or other fan game and potentially mods.
Super Smash Flash 2 will potentially be DMCA'd by Nintendo.
 

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Nihilego (Pokémon series)
Chances: 20%

I think Nihliego has a slight chance, due to story relevance. However, I think it would be cool if it wasn't just it, but Lusamine Beast mode. that would be really cool and would be a true pokemon villain for the series. COuld use both unique attacks itself, and also be able to call out some of her pokemon to be a pet type character in this game. Like Summon Clefable to do Metronome as a random Down B, Beware coming out for a body slam(though it being a pokeball also makes this unlikely). I just think the look of this would be very cool



Want: 50%

I would rather have Gardevoir or Incinroar, but if it was the Lusamine controlled version, I would love to see Nihilego then.

Nomination: Hikari and donbe x10 (Shin Onigamshima)
 
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Nihilegomaniac
Chance: 35%
Competition is high for Gen 7 Pokemon, but I wouldn't count out the star of the UBs just yet. I fear it may be overlooked for one off the more "safer" and easier choices, but it still has hidden potenntial.
Want:75%
My fave UB. Love the design and it's appearances in Sun and Moon's story. Might be a bit lacking in flashiness though.

Nominate: Gardevoir x10
 
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Nihilego
Chance - 10%
Small chance to pop up as the surprise Pokemon rep. It may turn up to be a boss though?

Want - 0%
Not a fan of the Ultra Beasts overall. This one is pretty bland to me as well. I also believe in "Legendary" Pokemon over saturation and these are basically fancy named Legendary Pokemon. A couple per a gen is good, the army of them is annoying.

Noms 10x Gardevoir



Also
>vote for dragonite every day for months
>prepare a post in advanced as a tribute to your friend who really likes dragonite
>dragonite gets removed from the list because someone cried about it

why bother voting for anything if it can just be removed on a whim because someone doesn't like it?
It's called a very tiny chance character being shown as a background character of a stage towards the final 3 month stretch before the game comes out. I personally wouldn't mind you posting your "tribute" to a friend in regards to Dragonite as I also wouldn't mind the person who spent forever on voting up Kamek posting their's. Maybe on the tail end of a post rating a different character (to stay on topic) or you could make your own support thread for Dragonite and post it there.

I stopped voting for A Pikmin Newcomer when Pikmin 4 failed to show up yet again on Nintendo's radar after they have been indicating it's been in the works for awhile now. Was it disappointing and basically waste my votes to a degree? Yes. It happens. Part of speculation.
 

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Mind Control Jellyfish

Chance: 5%
Want: 5%

Confession: I never played Sun/Moon. It just didn’t hold my interest.

Still, they were definitely playing up the Ultra Beast concept, and Nihilego is the main one. It’s also really important in the story itself. They may not have had popularity on their radar when deciding the roster, and this one unquestionably has potential.

Unfortunately though, it’s not interesting to me. As important as it was, it never was one of the ones people speculated about. Even other UBs like Buzzwole/Poipole seem more interesting in the speculation scene. Not to mention one of things turning me off of Pokémon is that the legendaries are getting more and more numerous, while the story is focusing more on them (and thereby making them easier to catch).

Meh.

Nom: Dovahkiin x10
 

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Nihilego
Chance - 10%
Small chance to pop up as the surprise Pokemon rep. It may turn up to be a boss though?

Want - 0%
Not a fan of the Ultra Beasts overall. This one is pretty bland to me as well. I also believe in "Legendary" Pokemon over saturation and these are basically fancy named Legendary Pokemon. A couple per a gen is good, the army of them is annoying.

Noms 10x Gardevoir





It's called a very tiny chance character being shown as a background character of a stage towards the final 3 month stretch before the game comes out. I personally wouldn't mind you posting your "tribute" to a friend in regards to Dragonite as I also wouldn't mind the person who spent forever on voting up Kamek posting their's. Maybe on the tail end of a post rating a different character (to stay on topic) or you could make your own support thread for Dragonite and post it there.

I stopped voting for A Pikmin Newcomer when Pikmin 4 failed to show up yet again on Nintendo's radar after they have been indicating it's been in the works for awhile now. Was it disappointing and basically waste my votes to a degree? Yes. It happens. Part of speculation.
Yeah I understand, no point in speculating about a character who appears in a stage already. There are definitely no other characters in the game like that so we can say for sure he's 100% deconfirmed. I for one an super excited to speculate on Thwomp, who is a far more likely fighter.
 
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Edit: error

Edit 2: okay I'll write what I wanted to post but I accidentally posted something, my bad. In my profile I said I would abstain from RTC for some time due to lacking my PC but that actually only applies from Monday to Thursday because during Friday and the weekend I actually have access to good internet connection. Please don't delete I'm gonna edit this to add my Nihilego rating.

Edit 3: okay here's my rating. As I already said I don't feel like giving chance ratings to Pokémon candidates but I'll rate them in want. Also until I can use my computer again (or get a new one depends on whether it can be repaired) I'm not gonna add formating like bold and colors.

Nihilego chances: abstain
Nihilego want: 64%
Not a candidate I really had in mind prior to the latest Direct but after thinking about it it could be great. I imagine it having grabs both regular and command that could make it fuse temporarily with the grabbed character just like the Mother Beast form and that fused form (which would only act as a brief animation) could become a threat to other opponents thanks to large hitboxes that can hurt other fighters as well. Also it's an alternative to Lycanroc for a playable Pokémon with Stealth Rock in its moveset, and as I said I'd be amused seeing the reaction of the Smogon crowd to that (for which this move has basically become a meme). Precisely I imagine its special moveset being: neutral Power Gem, side Toxic (a command grab that poisons the victim after releasing it), up Sludge Wave, down Stealth Rock, although I imagine Toxic Spikes could work as well. As the face of the Ultra Beasts it would make sense and feel like a very unique character. By the way, now that Mimikyu is deconfirmed my first three choices would be Decidueye, then Nihilego then Incineroar (who like Nihilego I have started to consider after the latest Direct and now find to be a pretty appealing idea too). But although playable Nihilego would certainly be nice, I can also imagine it as a good Poké Ball summon too, especially from the special Ball I'm nominating.

Also I have an excellent idea for the trailer: Mario dances on Jump Up Super Star in New Donk City and an Ultra Wormhole appears, then Nihilego puts itself on Mario's head Am's thinking it's a nice hat from nowhere, he throws it like Cappy, but then Nihilego comes back violently to fuse with Mario just like it did with Lusamine I'm SM and the public now panics. Just a new way to kill him after Ridley, but fortunately for him he's immortal in Odyssey.

Nominating:
New item: Beast Ball x2
Playable newcomer: Ken x6
Concept: no more stages x2

I also wonder, are we going to do double days as the new routine? There probably are less than 100 days before we know the full roster, so speeding up ratings may allow us to nominate a large pool of characters, concepts and other things as well as relates judged important. Maybe if it's too much work for one people, then one of them may calculate the results for one character while the other calculates for the other character, basically role distribution. Does this seem about right?

Edit 4: realized I wrote "abstain" twice, fixed. + typos
 
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Yeah I understand, no point in speculating about a character who appears in a stage already. There are definitely no other characters in the game like that so we can say for sure he's 100% deconfirmed. I for one an super excited to speculate on Thwomp, who is a far more likely fighter.
Well, Thwomp is likelier, just by virtue of 0.0000001% being higher than 0%

It doesn’t matter whether you or us or anyone is excited to rate Thwomp. This is a game, and games have rules. If Thwomp doesn’t break any of those rules, then he can and will be rated.

I know the history of nominations. Just like you with Dragonite, Thwomp got all those nominations from a single person nominating him over a long period of time. So please, don’t **** on other people’s picks.
 

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Well, Thwomp is likelier, just by virtue of 0.0000001% being higher than 0%

It doesn’t matter whether you or us or anyone is excited to rate Thwomp. This is a game, and games have rules. If Thwomp doesn’t break any of those rules, then he can and will be rated.

I know the history of nominations. Just like you with Dragonite, Thwomp got all those nominations from a single person nominating him over a long period of time. So please, don’t **** on other people’s picks.
What part of, "I for one an super excited to speculate on Thwomp," makes you think I'm not excited to vote for Thwomp? I'd like to see him playable, personally. Why'd you just assume I didn't like it?
 
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Nihilego

Chance - 12.5% - While not supper likely, I think it at least has an outside shot. Being UB-01, the first Ultra Beast introduced to us both in advertising and in game, and with plot importance besides, I think we can think Nihilego as the mascot for the Ultra Beasts. As such, I think if we were to get an Ultra Beast, it would be Nihilego. However, a lack of advertising prevents me from going all in on it, comapred to many of it's more likely contemporiaries.

Want - 80% - Nihilego's poison abilities make for a higly interesting moveset in my opinon. It would be supper cool, seeing how they use it's interdimensional capabilites alongside its many other powers. I would be fairly happy seeing it get in.


Prediction

Katrielle Layton - 0.35% - The Prof. would get in before her.


Nominations

Reimu Hakurei X10
 
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Nihilego

Chance: ABSTAIN

Still abstaining from gen 7 for now. I am 99% sure that there will someone from that generation, but I'm much less certain on who it will be. I will say Nihilego doesn't really strike me as something that would be picked for Smash, but it does have plot importance going for it so it's entirely possible.

Want: 5%

I don't care much about the Ultra Beasts in general or Nihilego itself. I would prefer other Pokémon.

Nominations: Gardevoir x10
 
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