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Balance Patches:
Chance: 95%
Want: 100%
I'd eat (figuratively) my shoe if it didn't happen.

Dragon Quest Representation:
Chance: 16%
Want: 100%
No clue.

New 3DS Sonic Stage:
Chance: 10%
Want: 100%
We got Green Hill Zone for the 3DS, and I'm pretty sure we aren't counting Windy Hill since it says NEW in the title.

Nominations: x5 Galacta Knight and Dark Meta Knight costumes (Ah ha! Thought you could hide from helping me nominate this, eh?)

Predictions:
City Trial Stage: 21%
SSB4 Outsells Brawl: 58%
Unlockable Taunts: 2%
 
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Jason the Yoshi

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Balance Patches
Chance: 90%
Want: eh, 90%

Dragon Quest rep
Chance: 0%
Want: 0%
We already have a good enough Third Party lineup, we don't need anymore third party characters, the rest can be paid DLC.

NEW 3DS Sonic Stage
Chance: 100%
Want: 100%
They wouldn't just leave us hanging like that.
 

Sid-cada

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Balancing Patches

Chance - 25% - Eh. Possible, but considering Nintendo's history I don't see it as likely. Just take a look at Uprising.

Want - 60% - Would be cool, I guess.


Dragon Quest Representation

Chance - 10% - Hey, if Rayman can get one, I can't see why others couldn't. It's just that we're not sure what entitles getting a third party trophy.

Want - 75% - I'm down for it.


New Sonic Stage

Chance - 40% - I donno. I think it's possible the team think Green Hill is enough, so I'd say it's slightly unlikely.

Want - 60% - Eh, something else might be cool.


Nominations

"Moonstruck Blossom" X15 (Woo, double-correct prediction!)
 

The Light Music Club

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I don't think I rated...

Balance Patches:
Chance: 50% - I really think it's up in the air at this point.
Want: 100% - We need balance for Smash. It'd be really good to have this.

Dragon Quest Representation
Chance - 5% - I really think Dragon Quest is as important to Nintendo as TWEWY and Chrono Trigger are.
Want - 65% - Yeah it's really whatever honestly

New Sonic Stage 3Ds
Chance - 15% - Eh, I don't think 3rd parties will get multiple stages
Want - 75% - I want a Sonic Heroes Stage.

Nominations:
Micaiah AT x 5
 

UnicornDemon

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Balance Patches- 20% chance, This is unlikely imo. Nintendo doesn't seem to care as much about the competitive community as other companies do (yes, they hosted tournaments but they were FFA and items on). Also, in interviews post-Brawl Sakurai really seemed opposed to the idea of working on a game after its release. Finally, that article Sakurai posted were he discussed the painful debugging process makes me sure it's something he wouldn't want to go through again post-release.

Want- 100%, I like experimenting with all characters, but when playing Brawl I gave up on two of my favorites - Bowser and Jigglypuff - due to frustration over how bad they were.

New Sonic 3DS stage- 30%, doubtful
Want- 65%, I really dislike Green Hill Zone as a stage, although I'm not too familiar with Sonic locales.

Abstain from Dragon Quest

Hmm....
Endless Ocean Stage x5
 
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CaptainAmerica

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Balance Patches:
50% likely
90% want
There wasn't one that came out for Brawl, despite the OP :metaknight: and everyone's favorite mechanic, but I feel like it is a thing that could happen now. Particularly if they're going to include DLC (which they totally should)
Dragon Quest Rep:
25% likely
50% want

Not really familiar with the series, so I don't care one way or the other. I wouldn't say likely at all, but then we got the Rayman trophy, so who knows what tricks they're going to pull.
Sonic 3DS Stage
0% likely
25% want

If we've got GHZS, we're not getting another Sonic stage. I don't even think we have one for WiiU at all, so a second for 3DS is not happening.
Predict:
City Trial Stage: 9%
SSB4 Outsells Brawl: 81%
Unlockable Taunts: 1%
Nominating DLC promotions to playable x5
 

Cheezey Bites

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I really think Dragon Quest is as important to Nintendo as TWEWY and Chrono Trigger are.
This is just insulting!

Firstly:
http://dragonquest.nintendo.com/

That's a section for a third party franchise on the Nintendo website including one first party game made by Intelligent Systems. Nintendo published those games!


Secondly there's the Mario crossovers, something you will never see for the fairly insignificant Chrono or TWEWY.


And if that wasn't enough I'm just gonna ask you read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_IX:_Sentinels_of_the_Starry_Skies#Release

Just look at how much Nintendo did for it's release in the west! how much they expected from JPN! how many consoles it shifted!



I'm sorry, but don't spout crap!
 

ChazzzyF

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Yay! Time to finally rate my nominated concept! But I'll do the other ones first.

Balance Patches:

Chance: 10%

I honestly doubt this one. Although it's possible, I don't see Nintendo doing it unless something is Meta Knight levels of overpowered.

Want: 0%

If I start learning a character, I don't really want to have to keep relearning that character each time a new patch comes out.

Dragon Quest:

Chance: 1%

Like we mainly talked about yesterday, it seems like it's either Snake or nothing. However, if we were to get a Square Enix rep, I would bet it would be something a little more well known (not to say DQ is unknown, but that FF and KH are more well known than DQ), but that's just my opinion.

Want: 20%

I know nothing about DQ, and know things about some of Square Enix's other properties, so I'd rather have them. Although if a DQ character is announced and they're awesome, I'll be totally fine with it.

Sonic 3DS Stage (Not Green Hill Zone)

Finally, my topic.

I've read a lot of people's arguments before this, and noticed that a lot of people say that Sonic's 3rd-party status gives this less of a chance. I sort of disagree here. I believe that either returning stages on the 3DS will either represent their franchise or they will all get new stages in addition (like Melee and Brawl did). In fact, this was the whole reason I made this nomination, because I wanted to see what people thought about that, not thinking that Sonic's 3rd-party status might have an impact as well. If all of the other franchises with returning stages on 3DS get new stages, Sonic fans will feel a little screwed over if Sonic doesn't get one too (and rightfully so). Anyway, we really only know so much. We know that the game is almost out and no franchise that has a returning stage has been given a new one too. We know that they picked Green Hill Zone, which means that they may not get new stages because of Sonic's 3rd-party nature. But we also know that the trend from Melee and Brawl has been that if a stage from a previous game returns, there will be a new stage for the franchise to be represented on. I'd like to be optimistic on it's chance based on the previous trend and hope that Sakurai is saving some stages to be revealed when the game comes out (which is also a huge possibility).

Chance: 65%

Now onto want…

Want: 100%

When Windy Hill was revealed for the Wii U version, I was really disappointed. Before that, I was thinking of all of the things they could pull from to make a new Sonic stage. And they went with Windy Hill? I mean, they are talking about how the 3rd-party characters are video game icons, legends and all that. Pac Man get a Wii U stage based on an NES game and a 3DS stage based on his classic arcade. Mega Man gets a stage that is a loving homage to Mega Man 2. And Sonic gets… the Green Hill Zone clone from his most recent appearance and a cloned Green Hill Zone from Brawl. Great.
I'd love it if they made another Sonic stage just so we can have a Sonic stage that isn't just Green Hill Zone (and don't get me wrong, I love the stage from Brawl and the new Windy Hill stage looks fun to play, but I'm tired of the aesthetic when there are so many other aesthetics.) And there are a lot of cool levels to choose from, Chemical Plant Zone, Casino Night Zone, The Death Egg, Sky Sanctuary. My personal favorite idea is something based on City Escape from Sonic Adventure 2, because that would make for an awesome stage (I'm thinking kind of Onett-ish with the truck driving through), and I love that song.

I guess that's all I really have to say on my topic. It feels nice finally getting my topic rated. I hope the votes look good.

5 nominations for Bowser Jr Rerate
 

ChazzzyF

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Sonic 3DS Stage
0% likely
25% want

If we've got GHZS, we're not getting another Sonic stage. I don't even think we have one for WiiU at all, so a second for 3DS is not happening.​
When Sonic was announced to be returning to Smash Bros, we also saw his Wii U stage, which is based on Windy Hill Zone from Sonic Lost World. Windy Hill in Lost World is basically one of many clones of Green Hill Zone, so I can understand the mistake of getting the two confused. It looks ok as a stage though.
 

wizardto1

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Balance Patches: 65%
They said they are considering it
Want : 80%
Dragon Quest Representation: 10%
With Rayman, anything is possible
Want : 50% Never played it
New Sonic 3ds Stage: 25%
With Green Hill returning and Lost World being on the 3ds, I find it unlikely.
Want: 100%
Planet Wisp pls
Predictions
City Trial Stage: 34.25%
Ssb4 beats Brawl ' s sales:78.45%
Unlockable Taunts : .45%
Duck Hunt Dog x5
 

andimidna

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Pre:
City Trial Stage: 20%
what are dis?
SSB4 outsells Brawl: 65%
Why is everybody predicting 50+?
It's a different install-base, more people had Wiis than Wii Us, and I haven't been seeing any commercials. Sure, it's going to be better, but better-selling?
OH CRAP WAIT... I just forgot about the 3ds version for a second there.
Yea, it's going to be more accessible. So this is probable.
Unlockable Taunts: 1%
wait wat?

Why am I the only one nominating Dark Pit? He just possibly got leaked and he's about to fall off our top 10 once we re-rate Impa. Lots of people are nominating Duck Hunt Dog at least...
 

ikke471

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Balance patches:
these are highly likely so it gets a 80% percent chance
want: yes yes 100% 'cuz balance is a good thing

2nd sonic stage:
this is kinda hard for me to get behind because I honestly think green hill is fine as it is right now so I'll give it a 40% chance because I can see it happening but it's just unlikely.
want: eh 50%
 

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This is just insulting!

Firstly:
http://dragonquest.nintendo.com/

That's a section for a third party franchise on the Nintendo website including one first party game made by Intelligent Systems. Nintendo published those games!


Secondly there's the Mario crossovers, something you will never see for the fairly insignificant Chrono or TWEWY.


And if that wasn't enough I'm just gonna ask you read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_IX:_Sentinels_of_the_Starry_Skies#Release

Just look at how much Nintendo did for it's release in the west! how much they expected from JPN! how many consoles it shifted!



I'm sorry, but don't spout crap!
I honestly don't care. It's my personal opinion.
 

Pureownege75

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Pre:
City Trial Stage: 20%
what are dis?
SSB4 outsells Brawl: 65%
Why is everybody predicting 50+?
It's a different install-base, more people had Wiis than Wii Us, and I haven't been seeing any commercials. Sure, it's going to be better, but better-selling?
OH CRAP WAIT... I just forgot about the 3ds version for a second there.
Yea, it's going to be more accessible. So this is probable.
Unlockable Taunts: 1%
wait wat?

Why am I the only one nominating Dark Pit? He just possibly got leaked and he's about to fall off our top 10 once we re-rate Impa. Lots of people are nominating Duck Hunt Dog at least...
Because we rated Dark Pit not that long ago, Dark Pit isn't a very popular character choice compared to Duck Hunt, and not everyone believes the leak
 

colder_than_ice

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Dragon Quest rep
Chance: 0% - I don't see Square contributing to this game at all. I also don't think the Rayman scenario is going to become a pattern.
Want: 60% - But I suppose I Dragon Quest character would be pretty cool regardless.

Balance patches
Chance: 10% - I seriously doubt that this will happen.
Want: 70%

3ds Sonic stage that is not GHZ
Chance: 40%
Want: 50%

Predictions
SSB4 outsells Brawl: 51%
City Trial stage: 22%
Unlockable taunts: 9%

Nominations: Micaiah AT x5
 
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DarkKry4

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Balance Patches
Chance - 30%

Well, never say never but i don't think Nintendo would give the effort to do so. It didn't happen for Brawl, sooo.....

Want - 80%

i guess if they aren't too frequent. I remember Sony's Battle Royale got alot of unnecessary patches.

Dragon Quest Representation
Chance - 0%

i don't see sakurai wanting Smash to be full of 3rd party characters. There was two in Brawl. Now theres already 3.... (assuming Snake is cut)

I think 3 is enough. Megaman, Sonic, and Pacman are very iconic in the gaming world in general. Any other 3rd party character would just look random standing next to those three.

Want - 0%
I don't want too many 3rd party characters.


New 3DS Sonic Stage
Chance - 30%
Want - 50%
 
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When Sonic was announced to be returning to Smash Bros, we also saw his Wii U stage, which is based on Windy Hill Zone from Sonic Lost World. Windy Hill in Lost World is basically one of many clones of Green Hill Zone, so I can understand the mistake of getting the two confused. It looks ok as a stage though.

The 3DS version is getting GHZ back, so there'll be one stage in each version. Here's the info on the 3ds stage: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Green_Hill_Zone
 

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CaptainAmerica, post: 17378963, member: 261782"]The 3DS version is getting GHZ back, so there'll be one stage in each version. Here's the info on the 3ds stage: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Green_Hill_Zone
Thats obviously going to be a retro stage since veteran series(Mario, Zelda, etc.)with retro stages have at least one new stage, and the Sonic series is a veteran series now. Just because he's a 3rd party doesn't mean he can't have a new and old stage
 

KingofPhantoms

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Balance Patches - 65%

I'm really beginning to expect DLC characters, and I wouldn't be too surprised if these eventually came along as well.

Want - 100%

As long as they're done right and are free of other bugs.

Dragon Quest Representation - 15%

Given how this series has made some guest representation in some past Mario spin-offs, this seems like a great candidate for a "bonus" 3rd party, like that with Rayman. Although, I have a feeling we'd only get a trophy at most.

Want - 50%

I'm not familiar enough with the franchise to care.

New Sonic 3DS stage - 3%

I think we'll probably just get the same 3rd party stages on both versions.

Want - 50%

I've only played a small handful of Sonic games, so again, not really familiar enough to care.

SSB4 Outsells Brawl - 50.58%

City Trial stage - 19.53%

Unlockable Taunts - 4.07%

Wreck-It Ralph x5
 
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Balance Patches
Chance:
50%

I can see this go either way for now. Typically, fighting games do have patches to balance the game and I wouldn't be surprised if Smash is one of them. However, we haven't played the game yet to truly see if it needs balancing. If there is another Meta Knight situation, I bet that there will be an uproar to patch the game to make it more balanced. So, it's basically a "wait-and-see" thing.
Want: 100%
Yes! Definitely! Brawl desperately needed these and it's a shame that the Wii's hardware prevented that. Now with a new console, we can prevent such a thing from happening.

Dragon Quest Representation
Chance:
5%

I know that Dragon Quest is a pretty close series with Nintendo, but I am not entirely confident that Square Enix would allow for any of their content in Smash since they are notorious to negotiate with.
Want: 75%
Sure! Why not? The more the merrier!

New 3DS Sonic Stage
Chance:
0%

I doubt that any 3rd party will get more than 1 stage on both versions. It might show signs of favoritism and perhaps personal bias on Sakurai's part, which I'm pretty sure he wants to avoid.
Want: 100%
At first I was thinking, "Hmm... nah." However, I am open towards more Sonic stages. I love the Sonic franchise and there are so many areas that they can pull from the games. I would love to fight in areas like Chemical Plant Zone and City Escape!

SSB4 Outsells Brawl Prediction: 36.50%
I don't think so.
City Trial Stages Prediction: 27.89%
Kirby's Return to Dream Land is the big Kirby game that would get represented in Smash with a stage. Many might recognize that.
Unlockable Taunts Prediction: 4.37%
Not feeling it.

Alright...
I know that we will rate the Robin concept next...
I was half-tempted to waste the remaining nominations on troll nominations for characters like Tharja...
I was half-tempted to bring the troll master himself, Hades, again for another re-rate...
I was half-tempted to rate some random song...
However... an idea came to me.
I don't have a lot of time left, which is why I am asking for your guys help. Why? It's time...
Nominations: Unknown Renders Leak 5x
We've rated the Gematsu leak... now it's time to rate the next big leak! I need your help though! Help me push this to the top!

DAY OVER!
RETURN OF BRAWLER610!
 
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Balance Patches
Chance: 54.43%
Want: 78.05%

It's hard to say whether or not the game needs balancing right now, but you definitely think that it's slightly more likely to happen than not. Besides, we all don't want another Meta Knight situation!

Dragon Quest Representation
Chance: 18.29%
Want: 47.66%

Most of you goo-ys didn't think that it was entirely possible for Dragoo-n Quest will get any represlurp-tation in Smash 4. Still, it has uslurp-ed a lot of slurp-port! Goo! Goo! Slime!

NEW 3DS Sonic Stage
Chance: 25.22%
Want: 68.59%

Many thought that it wasn't entirely possible that Sonic was going to get another stage on the 3DS version, but that didn't stop you from wanting it! Many of you wanted us to dash and speed through our fights in other radical locales that aren't Green Hill Zone.

Today, we will rate three more concepts!
The first concept is Smash 4 outselling Brawl. Now, I don't know if either particular version was meant for this concept, but let's assume in general that the 3DS's and Wii U's sales combined outsell Brawl.
Second, we will be living in the city! (Hehehe...) City Trial is the birthplace of Smash Run. Will this city have its dreams realized of being a stage in Smash 4?
Finally, we are rating the possibility of unlockable taunts. This shouldn't require any explanation, right?
Please rate Smash 4 Outselling Brawl, City Trial Stages, and Unlockable Taunts in chance and want today!

Tomorrow...
The laughing dog has returned and he is laughing at how quickly you guys nominated him to the top! Impa is also returning from the shadows once again for another re-rate. Finally, we will be tipping the scales and building villages with our own Robin and Villager in Smash 4!
I should explain the last concept being using your own customizable Villager and Robin from New Leaf and Awakening in Smash 4. Also, I don't think that classes actually matter for Robin; just their appearance that you gave to him/her at the beginning of the game.
Please Predict how the Duck Hunt Dog, Impa, and Using Your Own Villager/Robin will fair in tomorrow's game!

@ Gunla Gunla
@FalKoopa
Can one of you please change the title? I can't. It might be the last time too because I believe the Groose shall return tomorrow!

Nominations:
x119 Duck Hunt Dog Rerate
x103 Impa Rerate
x100 Use Your Own Villager or Robin
x90 Marshal and Chorus Men Day
x80 “Destiny” (Awakening)
x80 Four or More Newcomers
x75 "Moonstruck Blossom"
x74 Parabo and Satebo
x66 Jill Valentine
x65 Galacta Knight and Dark Meta Knight Costumes
x64 Micaiah AT
x62 M. Bison
x61 Fiora
x60 Unlockable Costumes
x60 Ditto Pokeball
x55 NonplayableCharacter to Playable Via DLC
x55 Wreck-It Ralph! (Wreck-It Ralph!)
x50 Bowser Jr. Rerate
x48 Endless Ocean Stage
x46 Franchise Other Than Fire Emblem With Four Characters
x45 Mii Wizard
x44 Star Man (Prowrestling)
x40 Petey Piranha(Super Mario Bros)
x40 Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf
x40 Tetra and Toon Zelda Day
x37 Porky Rerate
x35 Captain Falcon’s Theme
x35 Sceptile Rerate
x32 Kiddy Kong Donkey Kong)
x30 Playable Bosses Rerate
x30 Wii Fit Meter
x28 Nightmare Rerate
x27 Chef Kawasaki Rerate
x27 Protoman (Mega Man)
x27 Six Mario Characters
x27 Kirby Triple Deluxe Stage
x26 Smash Direct
x25 “Punch Bowl"
x25 Dark Pit
x25 Hannebow Stage
x25 Nintendo Land Plaza
x23 Ken Masters
x23 Marina (Michief Makers)
x20 Cain and Abel
x20 Ganon Rerate
x20 Gaius (Fire Emblem)
x20 Daroach (Kirby)
x17 Lief
x17 CPU Uses Alternate Costumes
X15 Dedede Arena
x15 Heracross (Pokemon)
x15 Kid Icarus Dog (Kid Icarus)
x15 All Brawl Veterans / No Brawl Cuts
x15 3D World Representation
x15 Team-Up Attacks in Team Battle
x15 Venusaur (Pokemon)
x15 Chaos 0 (Sonic)
X15 Leif (Fire Emblem)
x15 Inkling Assist Trophy
x15 Villain Newcomer (Mewtwo Counts)
x15 Bidoof
x15 Adeleine
x15 Crocodile Cacophony
x15 Mach Rider Rerate
x15 Dark Pit Stage Boss
x14 Zoroark
x14 Mario Party Content
x13 Standalone Pokemon Trainer Rerate
x11 Captain Syrup Rerate
x10 Gyarados (Pokemon)
x10 Unknown Renders Leak
x10 Batallion Was Rifle Grunts (Battalion Wars)
x10 Mallow (Super Mario)
x10 Godot (Ace Attorney)
x10 Billy Hatcher (The Giant Egg)
x10 Different Starting Roster Between Versions
x10 King Boo Rerate
x10 Vaati
x10 NFC DLC
x10 Robot Ness Alt Costume
x10 Daisy Rerate
x10 Purchasale DLC Music
x10 King K. Rool Rerate
x10 Valkyrie Trophy
x9 N Rerate
x9 Fossil Fighters (Fossil Fighters)
x8 Charlie (Mario Golf)
x7 Ridley
x7 Zant
x6 Japanese Voice Options
x6 Six Pokemon Characte
x6 Kid Icarus Girl (Kid Icarus)
x5 Mario Party Stage
x5 Cooking Mama
x5 Resetti AT
x5 Secret Newcomers
x5 Quote Rerate
x5 Professor Layton Representation
x5 Pokemon Center Delivery Pikachu
x5 Metal Overlord Boss
x5 Beedrill Pokeball Returns
x5 DLC Character
x5 Added Assist Trophy Feature
x5 Lip Rerate
x5 Captain Viridian (VVVVVVV)
x5 Rattle and Roll
x5 Fire Emblem Assist Trophy
x5 Sealed Grounds Stage
x5 Yumetao (Famicom)
x5 Rambi AT
x5 Masterpieces Returns
x5 Medli NPC
x5 Airship Stage
x5 Doctor Mario
x5 General DLC
x5 Konami Character
x5 “Bellumbeck"
x5 We’re Playing SSB4 While Speculating SSB5
x5 “Kanto Legendary Battle”
x5 “The Won-Stopable Wonderful 100”
x5 Dark Matter Rerate
x5 Tropical Resort
x5 Kururin
x5 Lysandre (Pokemon)
x5 Masked Man Rerate
x5 Q Bert (Q*Bert)
X5 Toadsworth (Super Mario)
x5 Viewtiful Joe (Viewtiful Joe)
x5 Kumatora (Mother/Earthbound)
X5 Tony (Earthbound)
x5 Wuhu Island 3DS Stage
x5 Hades Rerate
x5 Pursuit~Cornered
x5 Smash 3DS Sells 1Mil in One Month
x5 Hooktail Stage Hazard
x5 King Hippo (Punch-Out!)
x5 Little Mac Codec
x5 Pokemon Series Newcomer
x5 WayForward Rep
x5 Fierce Deity Link Costume
x5 Geno
x5 Dr. Mario
x5 Isaac
x5 Ogres and Dronkeys Tag Team [NOMINATIONS DISABLED]
x5 Tharja Rerate
x4 Coco Bandicoot
x4 Jigglypuff Rerate
x3 “Adventure’s End”
x3 More Pokeall Pokemon
x3 E. Gadd AT
x2 Isa Rerate
x2 Gray Fox AT
x2 Spinner Item
x2 NiGHTS Trophy
x2 Kat & Aa (Wario)
x2 Birdo AT
x2 Pyrosphere 3DS
x2 Yoshi’s Story [Melee]\ Stage
x2 Pilotwings Character
x2 Kirby Air Ride Stage
x2 Mewtwo
x2 Neku Trophy
x1 Bomberman Rerate
x1 Yuga (Zelda)
x1 Crono Trophy
x1 Ravio (Zelda)
x1 Blaze the Cat
x1 Hilda (Zelda)
x1 Kumatora Alt. for Lucas
x1 RTC Member is a competitive Smash 4 Player
x1 Groose is still running RTC for Smash 5
x1 This is Sakurai’s last game and he mentors Namco developers
x1 Wii U version comes with a Reggie figurine
x1 Seattle Mariners
x1 Ilyana (Fire Emblem)
x1 Idolm@ster Song on Pac-Man Stage
x1 Six Zelda Characters
x1 Giygas (Mother)
x1 Fatal Frame Representation
x1 Newcomers Without a Stage
x1 Customizable Event Matchs
x1 Blaziken Rerate
x1 Non-Final Smash Mega Lucario
x1 Pink Gold Peach (Mario Kart)
 
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Yay tomorrow looks very interesting!

Unlockable Taunts:
Chance: 1%
There's no evidence telling us one way or the other, but this seems very unlikely.
Want: 100%
That actually sounds awesome.

I'll rate the others later

Predictions:
Duck Hunt Doge: 35%
very miss
many laugh
wow

I think he'll rank around what Dr. Mario scored

Impa: 30%
I think she'll pass Bandana Dee but not Isaac
PS I wanted her before it was cool

Using your own Villager/Robin: 5%
Once again, I don't think so, but this would be cool

New videos= different prediction
Duck Hunt: 84%


x5 Dark Pit
x0 Blue Toad
Revenge of the color swaps
x2 Bowser Jr
These 2 need boosts, leak or no leak.
 
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Smash 4 Outsells Brawl:
Chance: 50%

I can see this go either way. Wii sold bucketloads which was pretty much the main reason why Brawl sold so well. Wii U consoles are barely selling anything. But then again, the 3ds is selling like fire. It's unpredictable how this could work. People could just buy one version (presumably Wii U) because they don't want to pay extra, or people could buy both because they don't want to wait for the Wii U version and so buy the 3ds one as well.
Again, I don't know.
Want: 100%
Why wouldn't I wish the best for this game.


City Trial Stage:
Chance: abstain
I don't know. It is the birthplace of Smash Run so it is possible.
Want: 75%
Sure, why not.

Unlockable taunts:
Chance: 0%
Nah. Taunts are always available to you from the moment you get the fighter.
Want: 0%
Don't really see the point to be honest.

Predictions:
Impa - 15.67%
DHD - 39.8%
Use own Robin/villager - 2%


Nominations:

5 x Unlockable Costumes
 

Rie Sonomura

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Gonna wait for the extra nominations post to be updated, here's predictions:

DHD: 40%
Impa: 45%
Use your own Villager/Robin: 37.87%

...I just hope some things I want rated, will be before the game ends :x
 

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Balance Patches
Balance Patch Chance: 80%
Considering how hard Sakurai is working in the game, and how much it seems to be aimed at competitive players as well as casuals, the game should be pretty good when it is released. But like most games, there will probably be one or two things that need to be fixed, so a balance patch seems pretty likely.
Not to mention that Nintendo is fixing some issues people had with Mk8 through patches. For example, people complained about how Watch Playback Video was first on the list of things to do after a race, so if you kept pressing A to get to the next race, you would turn on the Highlight Ree. So Nintendo made an update where Next Race is the first thing on the list. And I'd put money on the fact that they're making a Battle Mode patch that adds in some real arenas.

Balance Patch Want: Abstain
I'm not sure how to answer this. I obviously want the game to be balanced at launch, but if there are problems, I would take a balance patch.


Dragon Quest Rep
DQ Rep Chance: 0.1%
We already have the big 3 third parties. I can't see another one that's not named Snake.

DQ Rep Want: 0%
We have enough 3rd parties this time around. The only other I want is Banjo-Kazooie, but that is too unrealistic. Maybe in Smash 5 if the fan-demand is high enough.


NEW Sanic 3DS Stage
Sanic 3D!!! Chance: 20%
Maybe, but we already have Green Hill Zone, and I can't see a third party series getting more than one stage per version, since both Mega Man and Pac-Man have one for each version of the game.

Super Sanic 3D+ Want: 25%
Meh. I don't care, but it could be cool.


Nominations: X5 Pig Ganon
 

Pureownege75

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Smash 4 outsells Brawl
Chance: 50%
There's two sides to the coin here. On one hand, the Wii install base was incredibly large, larger than both the Wii U and 3DS combined by a considerable amount. On the other hand, the game is coming out twice, and I know ALOT of people will be buying the game twice, leading to higher sales. So really it can go either way, and I'm not really sure which way it'll go

Want 100%
Obviously I want the game to do well

City Trial Stage
Chance: 5%
The fact that we haven't seen a single new Kirby stage is promising, but I still think the idea is unlikely. We have a whole mode dedicated to City Trial, a stage on top of that doesn't look very likely. We'll probably get an Epic Yarn or Return to Dreamland stage instead

Want: 100%
I have no attachment to either of the two games mentioned before, so I really don't care if we get a stage based on them. Kirby Air Ride however, I grew up on that game, and I'd love to see it brought back in stage form. (even if I was one of two people who liked the Air RIde mode more than City Trial...)

Unlockable Taunts
Chance: 1%
Just doesn't seem like something they'd do.

Want: 0%
Think about it, if every character has 8 custom moves, with a 50 character roster, that's 400 unlockables right there. Then you add unlockable characters, stages, trophies, modes, and music, and adding unlockable taunts just seems like overkill.

Nominations
Nothing really interests me, but I guess I'll go with...
Unknown Renders Leak x5
Even if I don't believe this thing at all it's important to rate it
 

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Smash 4 Outsells Brawl Likelihood: 2%
Want: 50%

City Trial Stage Likelihood: 10%
Want: 100%

Unlockable Taunts Likelihood: 0%
Want: 20%

4+ more newcomers x5
 

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-Smash 4 Outsells Brawl:
Chances: 65%
Want: 100%

-City Trial Stage:
Chances: 2%
Want: 0%

-Unlockable Taunts:
Chances: 0%
Want: 0%

-Predictions:
Duck Hunt Dog: 44%
Impa: 28%
Using your own Villager/Robin: 3%

-Nominations: King K.Rool X5
 

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City Trial Stage:
Chance: 15% Well, I guess if Sakurai wanted to throw a throwback to Smash Run's Origin's he'd do it.
Want: 40% Dunno what they could do with it we haven't seen before, but why not.

SSB4 Outsells Brawl: Huh... I dunno, I saw quite a few people say they wouldn't buy the game because NoStory/NotMelee/ClonesReturn/RosterLeak/LackofMewtwo/...
....Who am I kidding? They will anyway :troll:
Chance: Abstain. Even though I think it will (with both versions), I feel I don't know enough on sales to give it a proper rating.
Want: 100% Why...why would anyone not want this 100%? This is what Nintendo needs to see in these times, especially on Wii U. And Smash Bros is just that game that deserves that.

Unlockable Taunts:
Chance: 10% I think we'd have heard something on it by now.
Want: 100% More taunts? Yes please. I taunt every match. Ever. Even during the 11 SSB4 matches I played at Comic-Con (and gods, was it fun spending 20 seconds taunting after I got about 5 KO's in a row with Sonic in one match). More taunts will make up for the death of Taunt Matches(the only reason I bothered with Brawl's online) with Brawl's Wi-Fi and SSB4 Online rules. (RIP.)
 

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New Smash outsells Brawl
Chance - 1%
Want - 100%

I truly doubt it. The Wii sold stupidly well to the point it's still selling, and I'm sure that Brawl is one of the games on that console that is still selling.
The real hope here is the 3DS. That handheld sells like bread and I'm sure Smash is one of those games that will move a lot of copies for it, but I don't see it reaching the levels of stuff like Pokemon X and Y. Meanwhile, the Wii U will sell for many just because of Smash, but I don't find it possible for the combined forces of Wii U and 3DS to come close to what the Wii alone was able to sell.
But the want is high, this game selling that much would mean success for both Wii U and 3DS, and this is a series that merits love and respect from everyone.

Btw, I believe it was mentioned in some interview that Smash 3DS is basically Smash 4 and the Wii U version is Smash 5. Just wanted to point that out.

City Trial stage
Chance - 0%
Why?

Want - 0%
So many beautiful places in the Kirby series, why would anyone want a minecraft city?

Unlockable Taunts
Chance - 0%
Want - 0%

I like it more when characters have their own set taunts and then people make memes out of them ('I FIGHT FOR MY FRIENDS" "YOU'RE TOO SLOW!" "SHOW ME YA MOVES!)

Predicitions
I think I'll stop predicting actually. Don't want to get extra nominations to then spend them on throwing random crap around.

Nominations
I ... yea, sorry, don't feel like rating the leak either. Already so much discussion going on about it that I don't feel enthused about spending a day of "I guess it could be real but I guess it could also be fake? idk" and people counterargumenting each other and people going "lol, it's so real guys, are you kidding" and people going "pixel bleed, obviously fake" ... just no, not interested.

So I resume the random nomination process I started yesterday
x1 Magicant Ness (jp version) alt costume
x1 Virtual Boy stage
x1 Sakurai leaves Smash 6 to Bandai Namco, takes over anyway
x1 No more Mega Man games until Smash 6
x1 Certain characters not available until Wii U version, and given as free DLC for the 3DS at that point.
 

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Smash 4 Outsells Brawl:
Chances:
Let's break down this down, in terms of numbers:
Melee had around 7 million in sales, with 22 million GCs sold world wide. Giving it an attachment rate of around 1/3.
Brawl had around 12 million in sales, with 101 million Wiis world wide. Giving it an attachment rate of around 1/10.

The Wii U is similar to the GC, so I will use that as a guide to how it performs. The similarities include it lacking third party support, lackluster sales in comparison to a rival, and mainly being driven by Nintendo software. The install base will consist of the Nintendo faithful, as such the sales of Smash will be higher per system.

The 3DS is similar to the Wii, so I will use that as a guide for the 3DS versions. The similarities include a large install base, many "casual" fans owning the system, and a large amount of the youth demographic owning the system.

The Wii U Sales are around 6.6 million right now. Based on my (baseless) projections, I think the overall lifetime Wii U sales will be 11 to 13 million.
I'm guessing the Wii U sales will be similar to Melee's sales, so with that attachment rate, it will be around 4 million.

The 3DS sales are around 44 million right now. Based on my (baseless) projections, I think the overall lifetime 3DS sales will be 78-80 million.
I'm guessing the 3DS version sales will have the attachment rate of around 8 to 9 million. For comparison, Mario Kart 7, Nintendo's other best sellingcrossover series, has around 10 million copies sold. The Mario Kart series sold better on the Wii than Smash did (much better), so I think Smash 4 will also be outperformed by Mario Kart 7. Then again, I think both series have legs and could sell much more over the 3DS life time. Smash 4 will probably be a better game than Brawl, and that could also help out sales immensely, as it could give the game lifetime sales legs,

These estimates are lifetime sales. However, you also have to take into account that dual versions might preclude some from buying both versions if the title. But with two versions, there is a fairly good chance certain buyers will only buy one version of the game, who would normally buy the game it was just available for one of the consoles. I think it will come down to whether the game can propel the Wii U sales to new levels. The Mario Kart series, Nintendo's most consistent home console series, hasnt moved the needle enough my opinion, and it had a better chance that Smash. But Smash has a groundswell of support and hype outside of the Nintendo fanbase.

With that said, 3DS sales will probably be solid, and I could very well be underestimating those. I think the combined versions give this a 75% chance.

Want: 100%
I want both systems to succeed.

City Trial Stage:
Chances: 50%
Sakurai loves his own work. And Fire Emblem.
Want: 100%
And I do too.

Unlockable Taunts:
Chances: 99%
Easter Eggs are plentiful, and I can see there being one specific type of unlockable taunt. That is a taunt between two characters. Because there will be characters that will have to be unlocked, technically these would unlockable taunts. But Sakurai hasnt done it before, what would be the change? Well, both KI:U and FE13 use features that could easily replaced Snake's codecs, with the Gods witty dialogue and the support system. Or Snake could just return.

Actually, now that I think about it, Brawl already had unlockable taunts! Snake gets new codecs (smash taunts_ everytime you unlock a new character! These were too awesome to not continue. So I think they will continue in one form or another.

I have a feeling this isnt what you all meant, but Snake's codec are technically taunts, so I'm sticking with that answer.

Want: 100%
Taunts are like my favorite part of fighting games.
 

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The Extra Nominations post has been updated.

SSB4 Outsells Brawl: Abstain

City Trail Stage: 10% - I'm doubtful.
Want: 50% - Air Ride's a pretty good game, but I'm not so sure this would make a good stage.

Unlockable Taunts: Double Zeroes - Why?

Bowser Jr. x5
 

Burigu

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Smash 4 (and 5) Outsells Brawl
Chance
: 80%
Two games instead of one seems like a fair chance.
Want: 50%
I am not sure why I would care about this

City Trial stage
Chance
: 0%
3D isn't the same as 2D, Sakurai brings back stages from Smash games not his other games, and to be frank City Trial isn't isn´t that good looking.
Want: 0%
Simply no don't see the appeal and I don't have to worry since this isn't happening

Unlockeable Taunts
Chance
: 10%
No real reason to believe in them or to doubt them but seems extremely unlikely
Want: 100%
I can't get why people wouldn't want more options in the game even if this is no game chance mechanic, don't like the taunts on your favorite character? maybe the additional ones might be the best for you.

Predictions
Duck Hunt Dog: 34.28%
Impa: 14.42%
Using you own Villager/ Robin: 1.02%

Nominations:
Fiora x 5
 
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Smash 4 Outsells Brawl
Chance: 60%
I can see Smash 4 selling more than Brawl. There are so many 3DS owners, and since said version is coming out first, that should rake in a lot of sales.

Want: 100%
Yes please! Smash 4 is looking fantastic! I want Smash 4 to do well in sales!

City Trial Stage
Chance: 2%
I don't see Smash Run getting a new map/stage. At all. And if City Trial is gonna be an actual "stage" stage, it's behind contenders like Triple Deluxe, Return to Dreamland, Epic Yarn, etc.

Want: 20%
It'd be nice to see a throwback to Kirby Air Ride.

Unlockable Taunts
Chance: 0.1%
I highly, highly doubt that unlockable taunts would be implemented.

Want: 10%
Meh, it'd be cool I guess.

Duck Hunt Dog: 38%
Impa: 30%
Use Your Own Villager/Robin: 4%

Nominations: Tales of Series Representation x5

Cause, why the heck not? :p
 
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Whelp. Here's my first time but I'm gonna abstain from everything but the outselling part

Smash 4 outselling....

The Wii U as of now is at 6.9 million. The 3DS is at 44.3 million...

At the long run? Nope. At first week? It had an 843k opening. That's beatable.

45% chance

100% want
 
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SSB4 Outsells Brawl
Chance: 65%


Calling Brawl a cash cow would be an understatement. We're talking roughly 11.5 million copies sold, a really daunting number, to say the least. To reach that point, SSB4 would have to sell like crazy.

...You know...as in "how well Smash games usually sell". >_>

While the 3DS and Wii U can't quite equal the Wii's ridiculous install base, if Smash and several other impending releases help turn things around, the two of them can come close. Smash keeps selling for years after it comes out, meaning any new owners of either system will at least give the games a look. With that in mind, there's a pretty good chance both versions of SSB4 will dethrone Brawl as the series' most commercially successful.

Want: 100%

Of course I want the new game(s) to sell more than the last. What would I be if I didn't want the series to have continued success? A genwunner? >_>


City Trial Stage
Chance: 15%

We've yet to see a new Kirby stage for either version. While it's most likely we'll get stages based on Return to Dream Land and Triple Deluxe, Melee did have two Kirby stages, meaning there's a precedent for either version to possibly have another. Would spinoff game Kirby Air Ride get represented by more than just the Dragoon and a music track or two?

...I don't see it happening, to be honest. There are a lot of more important settings that could be picked for a Kirby stage. Plus, how would a City Trial stage even work? A traveling one, when the Wii U version already has Skyloft?

At least City Trial is already in SSB4 in spirit. I can see weekly Smash Run sessions with some friends becoming a thing pretty damn easily...

Want: 25%

It'd be a cool addition, but again, nothing I really think needs to happen. I'd actually rather see Fountain of Dreams return in the 3DS version before we get a City Trial stage.


Unlockable Taunts
Chance: 5%


I'm actually trying to figure out the mechanics of this one. Would a certain taunt input not work until that taunt is unlocked? Would the unlocked taunt have to be toggled on? And what are the odds we'll even see this kind of thing anyway?

It seems unnecessary, to be honest. We have no precedent for taunts having to be unlocked, and when the unlockables already include characters, stages, game mode variants, trophies, B move variants, and possibly alternate costumes, taunts would be a little much, wouldn't you think? Wouldn't the developers think the same thing?

Want: 10%

It'd be a cool little detail...but one I can pass on.

Predictions
Duck Hunt Dog: 34.63%
Impa: 26.25%
Use Your Own Villager and/or Robin: 2.87%


Nominations
Whoa, I won another prediction? Talk about clutch!

Sceptile Rerate x10
 
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SSB4 Outsells Brawl: 2% Chance
Considering that the Wii's install base is at least twice the size of the 3DS and Wii U install bases combined, I doubt it.

City Trial Stage: 4% Chance

Unlockable Taunts: 0% Chance

5x Unknown Renders Leak

@BluePikmin11 Can you please help @Brawler610 and myself with this one? It's probably a better idea that individually rating Duck Hunt Dog and Bowser Jr.
 

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SSB4 Outsells Brawl - Double 100s

City Trial stage - 6% chance, 10% want

Unlockable Taunts - Double Zeroes

predict:
Duck Hunt Dog - 50%
Impa - 45%
Use Your Own Villager/Robin - 5%

nominate:
Tetra and Toon Zelda Rerates x5
 
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