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Captain Toad

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Mewtwo:
Chance: 90% I think he's got a good chance, if he's not in the game, he's got to be DLC. They'd be missing a trick if he wasn't. How many people on Smashboards alone would cough up some cash to play as Mewtwo on Smash? A hell of a lot I imagine.

Want: 60% Now to explain what a lot of you must be thinking is still a low score:

Whilst I want Mewtwo to return...I don't want him to be the same as he was in Melee. Mewtwo is meant to be the ultimate pokemon so I expect to feel like I'm power tripping when I play him. Now I'm not asking that he's invincible, hell no, but he so often ended up as a punching bag in Melee it was a bit gutting. Sure his throws and his rolls were good, but they really really had to be.
They can keep him floaty and big if they want, but just give him something a bit more to work with.

If they tweak him, then I'm all up for him coming back, and my want can be changed to 100%, but until I get confirmation of some new interesting/more relevant moves (given how much the pokemon world has changed since Melee) then I can't increase my want score.)

K.Rool:
Chance: 70% I think he has a good chance, especially if they decide to repeat the glorious FE reveal. With K.Rool and Dixie not competing then why on earth shouldn't one of their biggest franchises not get two reps?

Want: 60% Sure, I don't like him as much as Dixie and he seems to be getting a bit of the cold shoulder as of late, but I still think he could make for an interesting villain addition, and make your villain fights more varied.
 

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Mewtwo: 90% Sakurai would have to be insane not to put him back in.
Want: 100% I want this so much. Just give me Mewtwo and I will be happy!

King K. Rool: 40% Same as Dixie
Want: 100% Look at my want explanation for Mewtwo and multiply that by ten. (I don't care if it isn't possible, just do it!)

Isaaac: 39.81%
Snake: 42.1%

EDIT: I have a pretty good youtube video for you.
 
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YoshiandToad here with yet more controversial opinions! Come at me bros.
Mewtwo
Chance: 30% initial Roster, if DLC is a thing: 100% DLC.

Ah; Mewtwo, the character whose been planned for all three previous Smash games and only managed to make it into one of those three.

Jigglypuff's getting in over him. As ridiculous as it is to think that as a Pokemon fan, as a Smash fan we know it to be true. On the off chance Pokemon gets another rep he's got a decent chance, but yeah...I'm still suspicious we'll be given someone like Sceptile for yet more Pokemon advertising...which is what Pokemon's additions have always been first and foremost; advertisement.

Want: 50%
I don't want Melee Mewtwo back. At all.

A new and improved Mewtwo that makes you feel like you're playing a powerhouse?
I'm up for that one however. Maybe we'll get a Mewtwo that feels like he's the Ultimate Pokemon finally?

Leaving want at 50% because I don't honestly know which way it would go on him. I hate Melee Mewtwo, but I do want a new powerhouse Mewtwo.

King K. Rool
Chance: 2%

I'm waaaaay too cynical to think he has a hope in hell. Mewtwo isn't back yet, and he's the most wanted Smasher...meanwhile King K. Rool's biggest asset is his fan demand, something I don't think isn't as big a factor for Smash 4 as it was in Brawl. King K. Rool has been abandoned by Nintendo, and until he's back in his own series, I can't see him getting into Smash.

Fan demand or bust is getting him in basically.

Want: 60%
Indifferent, but I'd be interested in seeing what they do with him if he gets in.

Will he hype like fellow Elite Four member Little Mac, or will he make non fans think 'Is that it' like fellow Elite Four member Palutena did? Time will tell.

Edit: After seeing some lunatics rate him at 99% - 100% likely; aka the same certainty that we'll be getting WARIO return, I am knocking his chance down further to balance this. I'm sorry, but K. Rool's fans are as insane as the character himself if they think he's a dead cert at this stage with only Kremlings as his one hint.
 
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Mewtwo

Chance 95%

Yes i do believe mewtwo is going to be NON DLC any of you think at this point that mewtwos chances are under 30% you all nuts
  1. Mewtwo was mean't to be playable in all smash bros games
  2. Mewtwo is recent from x and y
  3. Mewtwo getting famus again most daming pokemon origins and the genesect movie
  4. Most requested character
  5. 50+ roster for ssb4 is almost a lock so plenty of room for him.
  6. This interview prooves that 6 pokemon is not overkill one bit (sakurai is stating in a way that he does not care for how many characters in a franchisee which is why they're are 4 fire emblem reps.)
  7. He's getting promotions too the limit.

Want 100%

All the way

King k rool


Chance 55%

Hes more requested than dixie and more hints for him in the game than her.

Want 100%
Him + ridley + mewtwo = i don't care who gets kicked/added to the roster.
 

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Mewtwo:
Chance: 98% - He's the number one most requested character in the world. That says something. Also, X & Y anyone?
Want: 100% Mewtwo is life, Mewtwo is love.

King K. Rool:
Chance: 45% - Of the DK reps, he's the most likely. If we get a new DK rep.
Want: 100% - He's a freaking pot-bellied crocodile with weapons and minions, who doesn't want that?
 

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K. Rool:

Chance - 99%

Objectively nothing against him, especially what with Gematsu concretely not having all newcomers shown thus far. His pros should be self-evident to anyone who's followed Sakurai's (actual, not figment-of-the-imagination) criteria in the slightest, and that's not even going into the classic DK content that would not be there without a vested interest in it being there.

Want - 100%

Mewtwo:

Chance - 100%
Unpopular opinion, I think he'd be prioritized over Jigglypuff if it came down to that. If Sakurai "thought about it" and somehow didn't go through with adding him, Pokemon Company would be breathing down his neck to guarantee it.

Want - 80%
Would probably not play all that much, but he absolutely warrants playability, and his cut in favor of SSE BS was asinine.

Nominate:
Brash the Friggin' Bear x5
 
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Mewtwo
Chance - 95%: I think he's playable along with Puff. There is no reason why we can't have both him and Puff.
Want - 90%: I don't like playing as him too much aside from the spinning beam sword and floating, but I would love to see him back for everyone else's sake.

King K. Rool
Chance - 65%: Seems pretty likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't playable again.
Want - 55%: I'm indifferent, having not played and DKC games, but I would like for him to be playable, for his fan's sake.
 
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Hey @ Groose Groose , What about a day for Bandana Dee Krystal and Black Shadow? :B
I suppose we could do Black Shadow. If anything, I would replace Pichu with him if I were @ Groose Groose . Although Pichu is a clone, it's pretty obvious that he will most likely not make the cut...

Bandana Dee
NO
I rather not go through another gauntlet that is a Bandana Dee re-rate...

Anyway, onto the ratings.

King K. Rool
Chance:
40%

King K. Rool has the edge over Dixie Kong with two important factors:
1. He has an absurd amount of uniqueness with his personas. These personas can easily be translated into an entire moveset for King K. Rool.
2. He is by far one of the most requested characters worldwide. Seeing as some of the newcomers we've seen are pretty popular (Mega Man, Little Mac, Palutena, Mii, and Pac-Man), Sakurai may have caught wind of how popular King K. Rool is in terms of Smash requests.
Although the Gematsu leak is false, I can't really raise his chances. Personally, I think that King K. Rool and Dixie Kong are in competition with each other; if one gets in, the other may not (it may depend on how Dixie Kong is handled, however). Donkey Kong definitely has the credentials for a 3rd character, though.
I say that he has a solid shot as well as of us getting a 3rd DK character (65%), but I can't say that I am exactly confident.
As an aside, when I give a character or concept above a 70%, it means that I expect them. I say that there is a solid chance of us getting a 3rd DK character, but I don't expect it anymore.
The only character that I can give above 70% to is Shulk really.

Want: 100%
I have many friends who want him and I want them to be incredibly happy with his inclusion.
As for me? He's a part of my Elite Four. He would be loads of unique and I loved his final battle in Donkey Kong Country. I know that he could do so much in Smash and it would be a shame to not see him.

Mewtwo
Chance:
40%

Same score as before.
Mewtwo is by far the most requested character worldwide and Sakurai did make a comment about him by saying, "We're thinking about it!" He is also a character that has been planned for every game thus far, meaning that Sakurai may still have him on his mind during the development of Smash 4.
Now, while Mewtwo has a lot going for him, we cannot overlook the fact that Pokemon may stick with 5 characters and this is what I'm basing my rating off of. I think that we will definitely get a 5th character, but I think that Mewtwo and Jigglypuff are probably competing for a slot.
Want: 100%
I'm not as hyped for him anymore, but I want to see him even still. He's too important to leave out really.

Isaac Prediction: 26.86%
Gematsu is dead, but I think that his scores will probably lower due to the scale tipper.
Snake Prediction: 28.51%
Why are we rating Snake again?
 

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Mewtwo chance - 80%

He isn't lacking in popularity or relevancy, so there's every reason for him to make his return. That said it's not a done deal yet. I get the impression that Charizard appearing on his own means Squirtle and Ivysaur are gone...which conveniently opens up two spots for Mewtwo and Jigglypuff to fill.

Mewtwo want - 100%

Yes please!

K Rool chance - 70%

This ones a toughie. I'm sure Sakurai is aware of his popularity and he could deem K Rool a more interesting/fun alternative (or compliment I guess) to Dixie Kong. A part of me feels like he's playable.....

K Rool want - 40%

It's increasing very slowly over time. I wouldn't lose any sleep if he didn't make it though.
 
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PlTe

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King K. Rool:

Chance: 70%
Want: 80%

Mewtwo:

Chance: 90%
Want: 85%

Predictions:
Isaac: 33.33%
Snake: 40%
How does Mewtwo have a better chance than K. Rool? We have more than enough Pokemon as is. Maybe Mewtwo could be DLC but still a 90% chance is way too much.
Or you're hoping that Jiggly gets cut, which we all know won't happen.

Mewtwo:
Chance: 50%
Want: 40%

K. Rool:
Chance: 90%
Want: 100%
 

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How does Mewtwo have a better chance than K. Rool? We have more than enough Pokemon as is. Maybe Mewtwo could be DLC but still a 90% chance is way too much.
Or you're hoping that Jiggly gets cut, which we all know won't happen.

Mewtwo:
Chance: 50%
Want: 40%

K. Rool:
Chance: 90%
Want: 100%
A: King K. Rool will get a higher chance than Mewtwo when Sakurai says that he's "thinking about" adding him in.
B: Brawl had 7 Pokemon and 5 Pokemon slots. All of the confirmed ones + Jiggs and Mewtwo = 6 Pokemon. Not unreasonable.
C: I also fully expect Jigglypuff to come back.
D: Why are you attacking me instead of the people giving him 100%, 99%, or 95%?
 

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How does Mewtwo have a better chance than K. Rool? We have more than enough Pokemon as is. Maybe Mewtwo could be DLC but still a 90% chance is way too much.
Or you're hoping that Jiggly gets cut, which we all know won't happen.

Mewtwo:
Chance: 50%
Want: 40%

K. Rool:
Chance: 90%
Want: 100%
Haha, let me explain for the slow ponies here.

Mewtwo is
A. a veteran fighter
B. a highly requested character worldwide. So much so, that he's NUMBER ONE.
C. was intended for Brawl but cut due to time constraint (F*CKING SSE)
D. from an important series that always gets a high amount of reps. 2 in 64, which only Mario matched, 4 in Melee, beaten only by Zelda and Mario, 6 in Brawl (with intended 7) as the highest amount.

Why wouldn't he get back in this time?
 

Sid-cada

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Mewtwo

Chance - 90% - Honestly, it's hard to name a reason why he shouldn't be in. Only reason it's this low is that it's hard to say if something might have come up. He should be in.

Want - 98% - Just make him relatively viable compared to everyone else, and I won't have any complaints.


K. Rool

Chance - 68.5% - Using a similar formula for what I used for Dixie yesterday. Simple as that.

Want - 75% - Could be interesting, but I'm not invested in him.


Predictions

Isaac - 29.67% - Robin's going to take some edge off, maybe.

Snake - 33.56% - Some pessimism towards his inclusion, but maybe a small increase?
 

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A: King K. Rool will get a higher chance than Mewtwo when Sakurai says that he's "thinking about" adding him in.
B: Brawl had 7 Pokemon and 5 Pokemon slots. All of the confirmed ones + Jiggs and Mewtwo = 6 Pokemon. Not unreasonable.
C: I also fully expect Jigglypuff to come back.
D: Why are you attacking me instead of the people giving him 100%, 99%, or 95%?
Only one person attacked you. Frankly, I think anyone can suggest anything. I gave K. Rool a higher rating, but I'm not going to complain about other people thinking Mewtwo has a higher chance than K. Rool. :p
 

Capybara Gaming

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Only one person attacked you. Frankly, I think anyone can suggest anything. I gave K. Rool a higher rating, but I'm not going to complain about other people thinking Mewtwo has a higher chance than K. Rool. :p
He was saying that that person attacked him in particular rather than attacking me, or anyone else who gave Mewtwo a higher rating thatn K. Rool.
 
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King K. Rool
Chance: 60%
Want: 100%

Mewtwo
Chance: 80%
Want: 100%

Two of my most wanted (alongside Ridley), and I'm REALLY hoping they're all playable in the new games. I'll say that Mewtwo has a higher chance than K. Rool just because he's already been a playable character in Melee, but I'd love to see the Kremling King make his glorious debut.
 

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Mewtwo

Chance - 85% Given that Sakurai already said he's considering Mewtwo after the roster was finalized? It's likely that he's in. Otherwise Sakurai wouldn't have said anything, or said something different. Plus all of the evidence that's backing him up as well as his relevance. Even Pokemon Art Academy recognized Mega Mewtwo Y as equal to Mega Lucario and Mega Charizard X for their final stage.

Want - 100% Love everything about him. His backstory, character design, powers. I just wish they updated his moveset/model. He was my main in Melee and the reason why I didn't enjoy Brawl. I can see it going either way with his inclusion/omission, but it makes more sense for Sakurai to include him.

King K. Rool

Chance - 50% Never heard of him other than other players wishing he was in the game. DK villain? Why not. It makes sense.

Want - 0% Not really into the DK series, something about DK creeps me out, but if there's demand for him, I think he should be in.
 

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King K. Rool - 85%

The Gemastu leak can no longer guarantee that we will get every newcomer it listed, and for sure as heck it can't guarantee they will be the only newcomers either anymore. K. Rool's got almost everything going for him now.

Want - 100%

Even here I have no personal connection to this character either, but I really like his crazy character and gimmicks, he'd be very fun to play as, no doubt in my mind about that. He's long overdue for a playable role in the Smash Bros. series.

Mewtwo - 90%

Little reason for him not to return. Got promoted again with two Mega forms for each new Pokemon game on the 3DS, was heavily promoted and advertised for the games, starred in a new anime special, is the most requested character worldwide, and last but not least, was once brought up into question to Sakurai and the developers themselves and replied "We're thinking about it".

Mewtwoi's not a guarantee, but it comes pretty darn close. Almost everything is in Mewtwo's favor as of now.

Want - 90%

As I said the other day, I could easily live without Mewtwo myself now that Greninja is in. But I well realize that Mewtwo deserves to return and shouldn't have been cut in the first place. That's the primary reason why I want Mewtwo back. Because it quite frankly deserves it.
 

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King K Roll:
Chance: 40% - Honestly, he is just a little less probable than Dixie (to whom I gave 50%). That's because, although he was the main villain in the first DKC games, he's been left aside for the more recent ones, Had he been present both in Returns and Tropical Freeze, I would say he would definitely be in. Sakurai seems to be trying to put a lot of feminine characters in this game. What he has going for him over Dixie is uniqueness (even though Dixie has the potential to be a very unique character) and popularity.
Want: 80% - He would be neat to play as.

Mewtwo:
Chance: 40% - Well, I don't think we'll be seeing 6 Pokémon characters in the base game. So, the last spot is betwen him and Jiggly, and Jigglypuff, once again, has an edge in this. She was in every other Smash instalment, including the first one, and I doubt she's getting cut. It's unfortunate, but in Brawl Jiggly was chosen over Mewtwo and I think it is gonna happen again.
Want: 100% - I hate cuts, so I would love seeing him come back.
 

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Mewtwo 95% Popular, unique, sakurai comment's, he is a lock in at this point, and the "max rep rule for franchise" is even more irrelevant now
Want 100%
King K Rool 70% Kremlings appear in the game, he is likely, not a lock in but likely
Want 100%
 

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King K. Rool

Chance: 80%
The Kremling King has many things going for him. Despite having not appeared in a DK game in years, he is still the most requested DK character, and has an incredibly loyal fanbase. He's a zany croc that comes in many forms, and has the potential to be seriously unique.
However, my biggest worry is that Sakurai will implement him in the game as another stage boss a la Yellow Devil. There haven't been many of those revealed (if any others at all), and I believe Sakurai is keeping most secret to reveal at a later time to "surprise" everyone, because he's a strange little man like that.

Want: 100%
My 2nd-most wanted character, there's not much I can say otherwise. He's awesome.



Mewtwo

Chance: 99%
Two Mega Evolutions, the only Legendary Pokemon with two, and the first Pokemon to introduce the concept (with Mega Mewtwo Y). A recent movie appearance. A new special. Appearing in the newest Pokemon games (X & Y). Appearing in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver. Finally getting a signature move in the Pokemon games 5 generations in in the form of Psystrike. Special event Mewtwo with Electro Ball. Major appearances in recent Pokemon games, including Pokemon Rumble & Pokemon Rumble Blast (final boss), Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs (final boss), Pokemon Conquest, and Pokemon Art Academy (final boss). Jump-starting a new era in the Pokemon TCG with EX Pokemon. Receiving a figure in the D-Arts lineup, one of only around six other Pokemon so far. Incredible moveset potential, as well as one of the very few Pokemon with a unique personality. One of the most marketable and recognizable Pokemon of the 700+ existing so far, even during the early RBY days. From Sakurai himself: "We're thinking about [adding Mega Mewtwo]." Literally the most requested Smash Bros. character in the world. He has everything going for him, including relevancy.
I'll just leave this little gem here of the three final "bosses" of the recently-released Pokemon Art Academy:


Want: 100%
My most-wanted... Not much I can say after the above! :upsidedown:
 
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Mewtwo

Chance: 90%
He is, if not one of the most popular newcomer (veteran?) worldwide. Extremely relevant and popular and I would be incredibly surprised if he was not in.

Want: 100%
It was a shame he was cut in Melee.

K. Rool

Chance: 55%
I believe another DK character will happen. K. Rool has so much going for him. He is very popular and is brimming with moveset potential. The relevancy might be an issue, but since Sakurai brought back the Kremlings, K. Rool's main henchmen for Smash Run considering the last time they appeared was Mario Super Sluggers in 2008 is interesting. Not to mention the rumored Chunky Kong assist trophy which is interesting (last time he appeared was Donkey Kong 64, not the most obvious choice for a DK assist.) That said, I think Dixie could easily be our DK newcomer. I missed Dixie's day, but I give her a 45%.

Want: 100%
He's my most wanted newcomer and one of my favorite video game villains.
 

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Haha, let me explain for the slow ponies here.

Mewtwo is
A. a veteran fighter
B. a highly requested character worldwide. So much so, that he's NUMBER ONE.
C. was intended for Brawl but cut due to time constraint (F*CKING SSE)
D. from an important series that always gets a high amount of reps. 2 in 64, which only Mario matched, 4 in Melee, beaten only by Zelda and Mario, 6 in Brawl (with intended 7) as the highest amount.

Why wouldn't he get back in this time?
C: Was intended for Brawl AND SSB64, and was in Melee.
Intended for 3/3
Already Confirmed to be considered for the 4th.
I may have to raise my score.
King K. Rool

Chance: 80%
The Kremling King has many things going for him. Despite having not appeared in a DK game in years, he is still the most requested DK character, and has an incredibly loyal fanbase. He's a zany croc that comes in many forms, and has the potential to be seriously unique.
However, my biggest worry is that Sakurai will implement him in the game as another stage boss a la Yellow Devil. There haven't been many of those revealed (if any others at all), and I believe Sakurai is keeping most secret to reveal at a later time to "surprise" everyone, because he's a strange little man like that.

Want: 100%
My 2nd-most wanted character, there's not much I can say otherwise. He's awesome.



Mewtwo

Chance: 99%
Two Mega Evolutions, the only Legendary Pokemon with two, and the first Pokemon to introduce the concept (with Mega Mewtwo Y). A recent movie appearance. A new special. Appearing in the newest Pokemon games (X & Y). Appearing in Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver. Finally getting a signature move in the Pokemon games 5 generations in in the form of Psystrike. Special event Mewtwo with Electro Ball. Major appearances in recent Pokemon games, including Pokemon Rumble & Pokemon Rumble Blast (final boss), Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs (final boss), Pokemon Conquest, and Pokemon Art Academy (final boss). Jump-starting a new era in the Pokemon TCG with EX Pokemon. Receiving a figure in the D-Arts lineup, one of only around six other Pokemon so far. Incredible moveset potential, as well as one of the very few Pokemon with a unique personality. One of the most marketable and recognizable Pokemon of the 700+ existing so far, even during the early RBY days. From Sakurai himself: "We're thinking about [adding Mega Mewtwo]." Literally the most requested Smash Bros. character in the world. He has everything going for him, including relevancy.
I'll just leave this little gem here of the three final "bosses" of the recently-released Pokemon Art Academy:


Want: 100%
My most-wanted... Not much I can say after the above! :upsidedown:
Now that's An interesting picture...
Yea, I Definitely have to raise my rating.
 

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King K. Rool:
Chance: 39%. If you asked me before the Smash Direct, I would have definitely given him a really low score. However, with the use of Kremlings in Smash Run and Chunky Kong apparently an assist trophy, Sakurai probably doesn’t give a damn about what’s relevant in DKC anymore, and I really can’t shake off the Kremling overuse meaning something.

That said, Tiki's are also in Smash run, so its really just the Kremling overuse that makes me think that. And if we don’t get another sighting on Chunky at Comic-Con, I’ll probably stop believing the rumor. As mentioned, I also think the chances of a new DK character is overrated, and K.Rool isn't the only Kontender from the series.
Since Retro pretty much abandoned him, he's relying all on Sakurai, who's never considered him before. If Sakurai randomly played through the entire DKC trilogy while on a break developing Smash 4, maybe he'd suddenly get hit with a great moveset idea and decide to have him in. Could he have done that and its the reason for Kremling overuse?...Probably not, since they got pulled from the VC :troll:

Want: 35%
Don’t get me wrong, I probably would get excited from a surprise reveal, but in the end, my actual want jumps up and massively down every day…2 things drive me to at least slightly want him:
1) The moveset’s I’ve seen that show he can be a unique fighter.
2) Nostalgia from the DKC/64 days and Cartoon.

…Aside from that, it’s the same response to when I heard he’s not returning in Tropical Freeze: I don’t care if he’s not in, and I have a great amount of people above on my want list (Dixie and Cranky especially) before him. I also hate the design Nintendo gave him in Jungle Climber, and I think dead villains…should just stay dead. I’d much prefer to see him properly revived in DKC first.

Mewtwo:
Chance: 0% We can’t have 6 Pokemon reps, 5 at most, Brawl only had 4.
0% He’s insignificant to the Smash Bros franchise and shall never return. Ever.
0% Sakurai only wants beautiful and cute looking Pokemon this installment.
0% He’s a complete Lucario clone.
0% Sakurai is a good developer who won’t bring back Melee’s mistakes, including wavedashing, L-canceling, and Mewtwo. Especially Mewtwo.


No…no, I abstain. I cannot take any discussion of Mewtwo’s chances seriously, at least without being the biggest troll ever :troll:
If Jiggs is your number #1 Pokemon, and you had to troll against “Axe Jigglypuff and put Mewtwo in her slot” as much as I have, you’d understand.

Want: 40% #NoVetLeftBehind, I believe in a world where all Pokemon fighters can co-exist.
...Fewer points than normal because I love the Mewtwo Tears meme and want it to continue forever :awesome:
 

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King K. Rool Chance: 20% If I gave Dixie a 75% in making it in as playable, this score is probably at a low number, with the extra 5% going to Cranky Kong. Honestly the only thing that helps him is being a very popular request, and a character who only uses that to benefit themgetting in would probably get in as a clone, like Lucina. I still have the confidence that Dixie is getting over him due to promotion. And where there is promotion there comes a certain genetic Pokemon..

Mewtwo Chance: 99% And if they truly want to sell this game like hotcakes, Mewtwo has (and needs) to be in as playable,he's relevant at the time being and is the most highly requested character to come back in Smash Bros. I honestly can't see Sakurai flaking this opportunity if they want the Wii U to come back at its feet. It has not become clear to me that getting a popular (and relevant) character until Lucina's inclusion, and I think her getting in means Mewtwo is in.
 

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K. Rool:

Chance: 95%
Despite Dixie being my most wanted, I gave her a 60% because I think K. Rool is going to get in before her. Main antagonist of the DK series, worldwide popularity, and tons of unique moveset potential put him a cut above the rest. Not to mention Gematsu no longer being gospel and the Kremlings being in Smash Run. I'd say he's just this side of guaranteed.

Want: 95%
As I said, I want Dixie more than K. Rool and if he makes it in over her, a part of me will be disappointed. However, if Dixie somehow makes it in over him, the roster would still feel like it has a giant hole in it. The roster needs him and Dixie to completely round out the representation of the DK series in my eyes. Not to mention, the Kremling King would be fantastic as a fighter. He's a definite want for me.

Mewtwo:

Chance: 80%
He's still likely. Most wanted character in Japan back in 2012, relevant in X and Y, and Sakurai's comment at the X and Y Roundtable. Not to mention, he's one of the most iconic Pokemon in the franchise. He's definitely got a shot at returning.

Want: 60%
Here's where it gets interesting. Last time I rated him 100% because I thought he was unfairly cut and deserved to come back. However, I'm less interested now. I think that's because I stopped playing him in Project: M and I want to focus my support on other characters, like Dixie, K. Rool, and Krystal. Not to mention, he's just fine in Project: M. If I want to play Mewtwo, I'll just play that.
 

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For all you people saying jiggs is bound to get in, look at the evidence. Its really hard to refute that if there is five pokemon (which may or may not happen) that Mewtwo stands a better chance of making it in. If six, it will probably be Mewtwo and jiggs.
But then again this is sakurai...

Anyway back on topic
MEWTWO CHANCE : 95%
Not too impossible as many think. Due to his mega popularity, his overall want, Sakurai trolling him and jiggs smaller-then-you-think chances he stands a really good chance in. I did a little combining of chances. 100% if six, 90% if five.

MEWTWO WANT: 100%
I need to see that Mewtwo vs. lucario fight. The community needs to see it. The WORLD needs to see it


KING K ROOL CHANCE: 45%
I understand the community's immense want for k rool, but lets be deathly honest, does Nintendo even care about k rule any more? Cutting his boss role and not getting any love as of late dampers the chances of him coming back. It still is definitely possible, just not all that much definite. And also, I believe Kremlings don't really mean K Rool in particular. I mean they did appear in strikers without him.

KING K ROOL WANT: 90%
Who wouldn't want to play as something like that? That and we need more villains.
 

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Mewtwo
Chance: 95%
Only problem I can see about him: due to his request, they decided to keep him for DLC...
Want: 3836193649292837x10^1822793748362829% (100% for normal scale)
He is my favourite pokemon, my main in Melee and my most wanted character at all.

King K. Rool
Chance: 60%
He is a villain, a request character. Only problem is that there maybe not be a DK newcomer.
Want:95%
I want to see more villains in!
 

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K. Rool: WANT 100%
K. Rool: CHANCE 60%

I'm still under the impression Sakurai will overlook him since he has lost relevance, however Smash4's roster is so solid now, I really can't see who else he can add other than highly requested characters.

Mewtwo: WANT 100%
Mewtwo: CHANCE 75%

Lucario wasn't an exact replacement, Mewtwo could totally return with his original moveset, with a few tweaks probably. He's highly requested, and having a variation of Lucario's moveset would add a bit more variety to the roster. It would be more like a Ness/Lucas situation than a Marth/Lucina clone of clones kind of situation.
 
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