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[-Jumpman-]

So I placed second in a 100 man tournament. I guess I got lucky with the brackets, but I still did decent I think.

Here are the videos:
http://files.filefront.com/TNOT2+finalsavi/;12464038;/fileinfo.html
http://files.filefront.com/TNOT2+losersfinalsavi/;12460789;/fileinfo.html

I lost the finals 4-1, but that last two matches of the finals weren't recorded. They are on filefront, but the videos are stream, so you don't have to download anything.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I can only recommend whatching these matches, especially if you think EU smash isn't good. Although Jumpman made some mistakes his MK is really good.

And that Wolf is just wicked

 

[xeleion]

I was wondering why the game's UI looked a bit different. It's the EU version. What was used to record this?

 

[Affinity]

Needs more N-air

 

[brinboy789]

you need to mix it up more. it seems like your strategy is shield grab > dthrow > aerial chain, spam dsmash, and the random shuttle loop. try and mix it up, confuse your opponents. and yea, use moer nair

 

[8AngeL8]

I would have liked a lot more Ftilt and nair. Two of your best spacing tools, by far.

I don't think you chased off the stage aggressively enough. Off the edge is MK's element, he's better than anyone there. Never be afraid to chase.

In general, I think you were playing a more defensive, slow MK. That's fine, but I think there were some times you could have pushed your advantage harder.

 

[Deoxys]

I can only recommend whatching these matches, especially if you think EU smash isn't good.

I'm not trying to be a ****, but the minute or so I saw definitely did not change that belief.

 

[OmegaXF]

I'm not trying to be a ****, but the minute or so I saw definitely did not change that belief.

Well people are entitled tot heir opinions correct?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm not trying to be a ****, but the minute or so I saw definitely did not change that belief.

You're a ****

j/k

They're much better than you either way.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Needs more N-air

Yes, but I meant strategic/tactical advise. I know I should use Nair more.

you need to mix it up more. it seems like your strategy is shield grab > dthrow > aerial chain, spam dsmash, and the random shuttle loop. try and mix it up, confuse your opponents. and yea, use moer nair

Did you even watch the vids? The guy was reading me all the time, "mix it up" just doesn't work. I don't spam d-smash, I use it. I would like to see your MK and tournament results.

I would have liked a lot more Ftilt and nair. Two of your best spacing tools, by far.

I don't think you chased off the stage aggressively enough. Off the edge is MK's element, he's better than anyone there. Never be afraid to chase.

In general, I think you were playing a more defensive, slow MK. That's fine, but I think there were some times you could have pushed your advantage harder.

I don't agree Nair is a good spacing tool, but yes, I could use those moves more. I usually jump off the stage, but Wolf is just annoying to edge guard. Especially a Wolf this good.

Playing offensive is something I have to work on and it hardly works against this guy, trust me.

I'm not trying to be a ****, but the minute or so I saw definitely did not change that belief.

You suck.

And thanks Gheb

 

[Infinitysmash]

Did you even watch the vids? The guy was reading me all the time, "mix it up" just doesn't work. I don't spam d-smash, I use it. I would like to see your MK and tournament results.

Uhhh, you're supposed to mix it up so they can't read you any more dude.

And you were pretty excessive with your down smashing, yo, though I wouldn't really call is spammy.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Uhhh, you're supposed to mix it up so they can't read you any more dude.

And you were pretty excessive with your down smashing, yo, though I wouldn't really call is spammy.

You think so? You play him

 

[Infinitysmash]

You think so? You play him

k, so you come on here asking for help and when we give it to you you spit it back in our faces. Thanks, guy, you're a fine example of one of my main reasons for not being very productive on this forum.

Also, I've played and beaten much, much better Wolf players than the guy in those videos. Take Jumpman from Gamebattles for example (whom you clearly are not). If that Wolf player is half as good as his, then I would be surprised. I put him into 3rd place at the only tournament he and I have played in and in the friendlies I've played with him I've always come out ahead. I'll play your Wolf player, beat him, and make you look like an idiot for trying to call me out on that.

And if you STILL have some notion in your head that I can't beat him then feel free to ask around about me. I'm going back to lurking now.

 

[-Jumpman-]

k, so you come on here asking for help and when we give it to you you spit it back in our faces. Thanks, guy, you're a fine example of one of my main reasons for not being very productive on this forum.

Also, I've played and beaten much, much better Wolf players than the guy in those videos. Take Jumpman from Gamebattles for example (whom you clearly are not). If that Wolf player is half as good as his, then I would be surprised. I put him into 3rd place at the only tournament he and I have played in and in the friendlies I've played with him I've always come out ahead. I'll play your Wolf player, beat him, and make you look like an idiot for trying to call me out on that.

And if you STILL have some notion in your head that I can't beat him then feel free to ask around about me. I'm going back to lurking now.

Wow, so you base that on one post? I love people being productive, but you're just talking bs. I'd love to do something myself, but I lack experience to do that.

Trust me, that Wolf player is at least as good as him. You won't beat him, trust me. You can PM him if you'd like to.

I won't ask around about you. The whole metagame in the US is overrated.

 

[Ulevo]

Wow, so you base that on one post? I love people being productive, but you're just talking bs. I'd love to do something myself, but I lack experience to do that.

Trust me, that Wolf player is at least as good as him. You won't beat him, trust me. You can PM him if you'd like to.

I won't ask around about you. The whole metagame in the US is overrated.

No it's not. The US overall is better than Canada, simply because of their community, and I know what Canada can do personally.

Anyway, I wasn't impressed with the video myself. I say this with a strictly analytical mind frame.

I'll critique your video soon to point out what it was you could have done better in order to improve.

 

[-Jumpman-]

No it's not. The US overall is better than Canada, simply because of their community, and I know what Canada can do personally.

Anyway, I wasn't impressed with the video myself. I say this with a strictly analytical mind frame.

I'll critique your video soon to point out what it was you could have done better in order to improve.

In comparison to Europe. Well, I'd like you to do that. I must say I do not like playing Wolf at all, and this was the first time I had even come this far in a tournament. When I see the videos, I can't say I'm impressed myself either, but that is going to change.

 

[brinboy789]

Did you even watch the vids? The guy was reading me all the time, "mix it up" just doesn't work. I don't spam d-smash, I use it. I would like to see your MK and tournament results.

like infinity said, i meant mix it up as in dont make yourself predictable. the opponent you played didnt take advantage of you being predictable, but later on better opponents might. you dont SPAM it, but you use it excessively. i dont go to tourneys that often, the last one i went to i lose in the losers semis. i WOULD post a vid, but my little bro lost my vid camera and all cameras sold out today

 

[-Jumpman-]

like infinity said, i meant mix it up as in dont make yourself predictable. the opponent you played didnt take advantage of you being predictable, but later on better opponents might. you dont SPAM it, but you use it excessively. i dont go to tourneys that often, the last one i went to i lose in the losers semis. i WOULD post a vid, but my little bro lost my vid camera and all cameras sold out today

Sucks about the vids.

Yes, but he did (I was fighting when it happened, lol).

 

[Affinity]

You think so? You play him

I've played Infinity enough to know he would destroy that Wolf.

Just saying.

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

I have some trouble approaching Wolf myself. Do you have any tips on approaching without having the lasers being an issue?

 

[Deoxys]

You're a ****

j/k

They're much better than you either way.

Who lied and said that? Thanks, though; there's almost no compliment as nice as being told you can't be as good as you know you are.

 

[-Jumpman-]

I've played Infinity enough to know he would destroy that Wolf.

Just saying.

Just keep saying, because he wouldn't.

 

[Gaki]

WoW didnt expect that i would get trashtalked for being drunk while playing finals LMAO
Ohw well say whatever you wanna i think jumpman is the best meta knight ive seen vids from all of you and his game maybe lacks some stuff but still you guys shouldnt just talk about how i would get trashed etc instead be a nice meta knight player and give jumpman tips i dont think he posted those vids to start a trash talking thread >_>

P.S i want to play all of you :D

 

[Trifroze]

Lol, a rating topic where you underestimate other MKs and bring your friends to say you're the best.

 

[Crizthakidd]

second out of 100 pple is beast even if all 100 are noob *** scrubs because the tourny must of taken a good 8 hours lolol

either way deacent mk, use some upthrow and downtilits to other grabs u know. edguard more too but yea thats what u can say about any mk

 

[8AngeL8]

Just keep saying, because he wouldn't.

Yeah, he would. Infinity has been getting crazy good lately.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Yeah, he would. Infinity has been getting crazy good lately.

He's currently one of the four wolfs who has won a tournament, in fact, he won every tournament here except one, in which he placed second. You can't compare him to a random player in the US.

 

[8AngeL8]

ROFL Infinity isn't just a random player from the US.

 

[-Jumpman-]

ROFL Infinity isn't just a random player from the US.

Well, this post really contributed to this thread. PLease show me some evidence before starting dumb flame wars.

 

[8AngeL8]

Infinity 2-0'd Sethlon in pools at Oh Snap. Enough said.

 

[Dojo]

Infinity's metaknight rivals mine. We're 1-1 in tourney sets. He's plays really smart, is a top player here in Texas, and he knows his ****.

Furthermore a mk shouldn't be losing to a wolf in the first place... If you can't take constructive criticism from fellow mk's don't post a topic asking for it.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Wow Dojo? I have been playing this game for three months, and I shouldn't be losing to a top player who has been playing this game way more? Infinity is probably good, but he should stop saying this ****. And so should you.

"You lost one game to RoyR, so you suck." Quit the ****ing bull****. "Needs more nair", no ****?

I said "rate", nothing more.

And I don't give a **** if you lose to a MK who knows his ****, because I don't give a **** who you are.

 

[Dojo]

Yes, but I meant strategic/tactical advise. I know I should use Nair more.

From this post, you seem to have been looking for some kind of help, eh?

Uhhh, you're supposed to mix it up so they can't read you any more dude.

And you were pretty excessive with your down smashing, yo, though I wouldn't really call is spammy.

You think so? You play him

He should stop saying a few simple things he saw wrong from your vids? After you shot down the other guy's attempt to help you, you just overlooked this statement and said "You play him."

We're here to help, not to get our advice thrown back at us so we can play whoever you lost to. Nobody really cares if we can beat them or not, we're simply trying to help you get better.

Either way I guarantee Infi could destroy that wolf in a tourney set and I'd bet 100$ on it easy. Not like it matters, we'll never have to worry about that match happening anyways...

Overall, you want your rating?
3.5/10

You're not bad, but you have alot of work to do, just like the rest of us. You should also adjust your attitude. Being an *** to the community you're a part of isn't the way to go.

 

[-Jumpman-]

From this post, you seem to have been looking for some kind of help, eh?






He should stop saying a few simple things he saw wrong from your vids? After you shot down the other guy's attempt to help you, you just overlooked this statement and said "You play him."

We're here to help, not to get our advice thrown back at us so we can play whoever you lost to. Nobody really cares if we can beat them or not, we're simply trying to help you get better.

Either way I guarantee Infi could destroy that wolf in a tourney set and I'd bet 100$ on it easy. Not like it matters, we'll never have to worry about that match happening anyways...

Overall, you want your rating?
3.5/10

You're not bad, but you have alot of work to do, just like the rest of us. You should also adjust your attitude. Being an *** to the community you're a part of isn't the way to go.

I know that, but he said I should believe him or something because he's good, and you backed him up. Really weird reaction if you don't agree anyway.

I'd bet 100 too, but that doesn't matter.

Yes, and thanks.

I'm not bad and get a 3.5/10. Next time I'll get some vids with an aggressive play style, wanna bet you'd give me 7/10. I know, but I hate people saying "needs more nair". If someone would do that IRL, I'd say **** off and never talk to them again.

 

[QUIVO]

Are you like 13 or something?

 

[-Jumpman-]

Are you like 13 or something?

No, and nvm.

 

[Darxmarth23]

lulz

flamo-festo

if you are not as blind as you act, and you can see that we don't appriciate our advice being thrown back at us, then you'd better change the way you handle this.

we don't have to critique you know.

 

[Infinitysmash]

I never said you should listen to me because I'm good. All I told you was that you should be less predictable and you do use down smash excessively, then you told me "Really? You play him."

So who should we blame for starting this nonsense?

For reference:

Uhhh, you're supposed to mix it up so they can't read you any more dude.

And you were pretty excessive with your down smashing, yo, though I wouldn't really call is spammy.

You think so? You play him

Also, thanks to the guys who are backing me up on this. I'll do my best to make you $100 richer Doj

 

[brinboy789]

you asked for advice, and infinity gave you some. if you dont like it, then ignore it. why ask for advice if your going to flame everybody whos trying to help you?

 

[Affinity]

It's impossible to give someone advice if he/she isn't willing to take it.

Let this thread die.