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[Kantrip]

every point he has that refers to my reaction to bardull's claim and the events following might have some truth to them though

 

[Kantrip]

also the slots' pushes

bardull #hbc kill kill kill (even post-claim) ---- pushing a townie

kill frito not badwolf, you guys are stupid ----- pretty sure ruy is town, so pushing a townie and deterring from a scummer

(deadline hits, we get a bwfold lynch)

actually i like ruy now, good job on that there bwolf lynch ----- 180 on a read that wasn't explained sufficiently and makes no sense, congratulating us for getting the lynch he was saying not to go for because he suddenly thinks it was a good deadline move. lo and behold, bwolf flips scum as he says that (trying to make reads look correct)

and now me ----- pushing a townie

isn't that the marshy thing: you guys give him all the thread presence his heart desires and let him blindly lead 3 mislynches before you realize he's scum?

or you can realize it now because that slot is grimy as ****

 

[Kantrip]

im just going to address this now because im not going to be in thread for a while. reason my reaction to bardull's claim may have looked odd:

im nabe, the crazy french swine (province of quebec), town miller

"That could be from RVS! You have to think creatively! Come on guys, stop milling about! Look again, he's being a hypocrite!"

subtle crumb

god ****ing dammit you weren't supposed to claim

my vote was useless sitting on my rvs target and I've liked fanny recently more and I haven't been keeping up too well so I thought "hey I'll just help the pressure, I mean he is grimier than Gorf as far as their interaction goes and he tends to flail and reveal his alignment in times like this"

this post is just supposed to show that i was upset he claimed as fast as he did because my vote was on him but he was my rvs vote and i didnt intend to add to the pressure to the point of getting a claim, i was just going for reactions at that time since i was null on him and decided to help the building wagon.

thats why i reacted this way

Unvote

His crumb was dumb, as Circus said. Nothing will change the amount of attention he drew to himself and how obvious he made it that he was crumbing a PR.

But I'm pretty sure he's town

(anyone feel free to CC)

i instantly buy the claim (except for the possibility of CC)

because my role implies the existence of a cop

something odd eh?

Oh yeah Bardull do you get results in the form of inno/guilty or town/mafia?

asked this question to verify that my role PM's wording matches his

he answered correctly, my pm says i will show as "mafia"

now lynch NH

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unfortunately it's the only way I can read, I only **** block him if I think he is wrong but more often than not he is right.

Still Badwolf was scummier yesterday, and I wasn't bothered til post flip.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Then that claim.

Can people stop claiming when it's not needed ugg.

Well this one has more merit to the why. Though odd with the miller part since that is a scummy claim.

My vote stays on NH but need to think on this.

 

[Kantrip]

miller's only a scummy claim when there's

1. possibly still a cop alive that the claim would help avoid a guilty on me

2. a guilty already claimed on me

town had a cop but it's already dead, a miller claim grants me literally no favours

sometimes i wonder if you actually use your brain to do logic when you play mafia, or if you just look through a textbook for answers

 

[Kantrip]

and i probably shouldn't have claimed but **** it

i really dont want to deal with a massive giant wall that people actually think has merit just because it looks big and powerful and full of facts

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

jesus christ that's a huge wall

badwolf's votes jumped everywhere because he was faking reads and was scum and all his unvotes made zero sense, it wasn't just his vote pattern on me. it was on gorf, frito, and literally everyone he voted

it's possible that he threw a scummate into his list of scummers, but if he did it was gorf

Umm you seem to be glossing over the central nerve of the argument there kiddo if you're gonna respond do it right plz ty

**** all that reaching

and omgus

and that slot in general

the answer for why nabe fell off scumreading ruy is not good enough.

"I was already starting to falter on it I was just pretending I still wanted him dead and I still said I was making a case on him"

that's bull ****

reading that wall and seeing how many of the points are

bad

bull****

reaching

misconstruing things

and confirmation bias

makes me physically angry

people please actually read the things he's saying and then look at what he's referring it to IN CONTEXT (yes i know thats a lot of work, and its work i dont want to do as much as you dont want to do it) and see that he's making **** up

NH can **** outta hear

Vote: No Hetero

...

You're flailing.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

OH BOY HE CLAIMED MILLER WE GOTTA LYNCH KANTRIP YES WOOHOO

Vote: Kantrip

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Actually nah he can stay for now I'd rather lynch Joey first.

Vote Joey

Then we can lynch kantrip

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Ahh **** dem crumbs got me thinkin doe...

Yea we totally SHOULD go for Joey first though. You agree right @ Kantrip ? Note: choose this route if you want to live past toDay.

 

[Kantrip]

gorf thoughts on NH

why does the miller claim contribute to scumread on me

why do you still want joey first

why are you a ****

 

[Kantrip]

i dont give a **** bout your ultimatums, i havent been convinced on a joey lynch being a good idea

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

gorf thoughts on NH

why does the miller claim contribute to scumread on me

why do you still want joey first

why are you a ****

Thoughts on NH is the team is Joey + you or NH. I've ruled J out by reading back n the rest of town is solid enough as town reads.

Miller claim is cuz that's SO easy with a flipped cop. But the crumbs save you.

I want Joey first cuz he's much more tangibly scummy and likely to flip scum in my head did you like not even read any of my posts?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i dont give a **** bout your ultimatums, i havent been convinced on a joey lynch being a good idea

Umm excuse me you're talking to one of the people that hold your life in their hands, and who DOESN'T want to lynch you toDay. I wouldn't be so rude.

 

[Kantrip]

a VT claim is always easy

im not claiming it cuz of pressure, im claiming it to clear up confusion about my behaviour

there is no reason to claim it except for it being the truth. im not stupid, i know people generally think miller claims are scummy which is why i wanted to make sure i had it crumbed before it ever had a chance of coming up

 

[Kantrip]

Umm excuse me you're talking to one of the people that hold your life in their hands, and who DOESN'T want to lynch you toDay. I wouldn't be so rude.

you dont want to lynch me, so why bring up that you have my life in my hands

you like playing god? then kill me and watch me flip town.

you like winning? then shut up and lynch NH

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So are you just like not even gonna read my posts? Take a breather you're certainly not getting lynched any time soon. I bring up having your life in my hands cuz everyone has everyone's life in their hands (that's why we vote doofus), it just sounds more epic that way.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh and also read the damn thread and stop flailing at the sight of pressure GEEZ this is why you get lynched.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh and also read the damn thread and stop flailing at the sight of pressure GEEZ this is why you get lynched.

This is me not speaking relative to this game but this is me speaking relative to mafia in general.

THIS WHOLE CRACKING AT THE SIGHT OF A WALL AGAINST YOU. A WALL FROM A GENERALLY SEEN AS SCUMMY SLOT. THAT **** LOOKS SCUMMY AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD YOURSELF UP IF YOU'RE TOWN. PLEASE LEARN FROM THE MISTAKE NOW AND FIX IT NOW IF YOU'RE TOWN.

Did I mention that I ended up taking it into consideration that NH was giving us a crock of ****? Did you realize that had you not shown your crumbs I'd have been on board with your lynch from that reaction alone?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

miller's only a scummy claim when there's

1. possibly still a cop alive that the claim would help avoid a guilty on me

2. a guilty already claimed on me

town had a cop but it's already dead, a miller claim grants me literally no favours

sometimes i wonder if you actually use your brain to do logic when you play mafia, or if you just look through a textbook for answers

I'm not gonna argue this, but you are very wrong here.

I don't care for context, miller is an inherently scummy claim.

 

[Kantrip]

youre right

and i only reacted that way because like 3 people immediately were like "oh man a huge wall-case i dislike kantrip now"

thats not thinking

probably should have replaced when things got rocky for me, im sorry

 

[Kantrip]

thats at gorf

ruy is not right and i cant be arsed to spend another game drilling into his head why he doesnt use reasoning properly

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

youre right

and i only reacted that way because like 3 people immediately were like "oh man a huge wall-case i dislike kantrip now"

thats not thinking

probably should have replaced when things got rocky for me, im sorry

I mean I lol'd but I don't even think people were talking about disliking you, just that they'd take the post (finally some damn content from that slot amirite) into consideration.

 

[Kantrip]

wait, gorf. werent you one of those people?

i dont get how youre on my side now when you appeared to believe the case before

 

[Kantrip]

maybe it was just ruy mindlessly sheeping someone who makes a long post with a vote at the end, but i coulda sworn you and j saw it and went "hmm that has merit"

hell ruy didn't even read it, he said he skimmed it and bought into it

smh

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

wait, gorf. werent you one of those people?

i dont get how youre on my side now when you appeared to believe the case before

Ahh **** if that wasn't as NASTY of a catch as it was I'd call bull****...

...

But damn.

This is not believing the case. It's a solid catch, but I've made solid catches as scum before. I hadn't even read it in absolute detail, and the fact that he's using Joey in conjunction with the read on you makes me want to kill off Joey even more before NH. If Joey flips scum, that makes me look directly at NH based on that case.

Btw now that I've got you on a calmer note how about your read my two larger post of the previous page(s) and talk to me about my current scum reads.

 

[Kantrip]

This quote is from page 3, at a point where RVS has clearly been established as in the past. Joey not having any actual input but feeling the urge to post worries me. At around this point in time over at FFTA he was absolutely able to put his head somewhere and voice an opinion on SOMETHING (the going on and on about mechanics, that is) without any previous nudge. It's excusable for only a small frame of time to post nothing but RVS nonsense.





Here he goes again!



This is a summary of J's thoughts entering the thread, and I gotta say that even though the last two paragraphs feel stretched and overexerted, the first two read as a player looking at all angles and trying to assess a read from the thread in entirety. Cool posting, let's hope it's not just clever positioning of himself in thread.

Obtw at this point I highly doubt I'm going to find something that's going to make me open my horizons from J/Joey/NH, so don't be stunned if I end up saying nothing about any of the other slots.



This ****ing REEKS of looking for an opportunity to posture himself in thread. He's got one focus in this post and it's reaching even harder than KWK's push on fandango is claimed to be. It's entirely surface based and easy as **** to use as a stance. It's ALMOST as easy as it was for badwolf to cling onto me or early Day frito. Let's see if he has any other words of wisdom to share in thread.



If he's talking about being confused by joeys 180 I think it'd be fair to say Joeyscum =/= Jscum.



Fantastic. I want Joey dead before J.

I'll plant my vote here for now. I'd continue but I'm on the train and I REALLY have to pee. Like holy ****.

vote masquerain

your j stuff is pretty solid (including town points)

bolded is the best point against joey i've seen and could actually see that having scum intent. i dont want him near endgame with his activity as is so i wouldnt be strongly opposed to a joey lynch but i do think NH is more likely to yield us scum

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Whatever dude.

Gorf why Joey over NH I don't see Joey being less scummy than NH, I know his flip flip is gross but coming from what I know from hydrating with him he can flip flip at times.

I means NH's case/wall on Kantrip/Joey has the same stuff people yelled at me about in day 1. He literally is taking done of Kantrip null posts and trying to spin them into a scum light.

"He didn't lynch Soup because he was going to shoot him!"

Sertiously...

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So then who's the third mate ehh?

 

[Kantrip]

This was what I interpret as the first stream of content from this slot. Nothing too far fetched, but it is shallow, can't let it go unsaid.



And this



And this



And this



And this

@marshy and @Nabe I know you're both not keen on putting cards on the table but this is ridiculous. There is no scum hunting going on. At all. No feeling slots out. No direction. No drive. Nothing.


Here's to hoping that D2 post he made where he voted me is chick full of contradictions to his earlier feels about my slot.



Oh and this too

Just finished D1. My vote is equally on No Hetero and Joey, I'll keep it on the latter for as long as the Day is still young and the former has votes n pressure.

you didnt really say much

like yeah NH has a lack of direction and pushing to lynch soup so mechanically was scummy. both of those are. but there are many other reasons they are scum, many of which i kind of spouted out when i was getting pissy

i didnt actually realize before that i like who you're scumreading

 

[Kantrip]

Whatever dude.

Gorf why Joey over NH I don't see Joey being less scummy than NH, I know his flip flip is gross but coming from what I know from hydrating with him he can flip flip at times.

I means NH's case/wall on Kantrip/Joey has the same stuff people yelled at me about in day 1. He literally is taking done of Kantrip null posts and trying to spin them into a scum light.

"He didn't lynch Soup because he was going to shoot him!"

Sertiously...

well hey it looks like you read it now! thanks!

 

[Kantrip]

So then who's the third mate ehh?

somewhere in the pool of you/raz/j with a pinch of maaaaybe fanny/joey

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

somewhere in the pool of you/raz/j with a pinch of maaaaybe fanny/joey

Damn that's right you ARE kantplay after all I forgot, silly me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Who said I agreed with it?

He'll I didn't even read it outside of a light skin til now.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Obtw Kantrip those posts were regarding solely D1 content. I haven't even touched on the scummy ass back and forth with ruy and the use of long winded responses to get out of actually doing things cuz that's mostly D2.

 

[Kantrip]

Damn that's right you ARE kantplay after all I forgot, silly me.

yeah, gotta throwback to my roots sometimes

Obtw Kantrip those posts were regarding solely D1 content. I haven't even touched on the scummy *** back and forth with ruy and the use of long winded responses to get out of actually doing things cuz that's mostly D2.

kk well i'll see if you've got more to work with when you get to those

if everyone wants joey before NH i'll tag along with that on the promise we hardbody the hard bodies after

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I mean in retrospect, even if I am wrong about Joey and NH, of the two slots period I'd prefer Joey dead because he is absolute deadweight to us for this V/LA and the V/LA that he posted about that will be coming up.

 

[No Hetero]

no **** that

its time for this potato to get MASHED

youre gettin ****ED UP son wait til I hit a computer

 

[Kantrip]

confirmation bias is delicious

so is scum making fake cases and then tunneling them