Rake's Canadafia Over!! Nabe won through the power of Poutine

[Dooms]

request replacement

Because I won't be here for the rest of my slot's time in the game.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'll be posting later tonight.

However, I will say, sad to see Joey go, but at this point it's more responsible of him to do that. Also I am going to re-read everything that happened but first impression, Kanty's reaction is among the worst I have seen from seeing a case from a scum-read of his own. Kanty has moved super down on my list purely based on reactions and Gorf can take his place on my towny list.

 

[Blindfolded Philosophers]

Wow. Alright that was a lot to take in but we've definitely got something solid to talk about today now.

I'm going to agree with Gorf here that I'd feel much more comfortable lynching Joey first, especially since the NH case revolves so heavily around potential Joey/Kantrip connections. If there's merit in it, we'll find it in Joey and can solve Kantrip/NH after. I'mma reserve full judgement on the NH case until I can pore through it more carefully.

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake Request Votecount

In the meantime...

somewhere in the pool of you/raz/j with a pinch of maaaaybe fanny/joey

I'm not gonna argue this, but you are very wrong here.

I don't care for context, miller is an inherently scummy claim.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Jokes on you, I main support.

 

[Fandangox]

I thought it was important that Badwolf phrased both of these defensive lines the same way while he was talking up his reads. It's like he was trying to frame them as if they were equally important or valid reads to him. Then there's this EBWOP:

Here he reveals that he really did copy and paste this line, which got me thinking on possible BW/Potassium. Then there's this in BW's first post of D1:

I can't see anything that would have prompted asking this. So from the start BW makes an association between Gorf and KWK that doesn't make sense in any thread context, and he makes a different soft association at the end. Weird.

But then Marshy bit into it over the Night, and things got crazy. It turns out that Badwolf's posts are full of comparisons between Gorf and KWK/Potato, and EVERY post he made mentions Potato.



kwkscum means gorftown. gorfscum means fritoscum. both straight-up bull**** and the first is to tie slots together
bwolf forces this comparison to make gorf and kwk equal. and bonus
THE CALLOUT
bwolf is whiteknighting kantplay against LITERALLY NOTHING and making **** up to tie kant to obvtown gorf

bwolfs vote is on kwk here but now kwks null and gorf is the scumread
talking up his kwk vote and scumread again even though he called him null. and bonuskantplay is the next post

d2

gorf is nulltown now. makes sure to DEFEND his kwk scumread AND THEN
next post he ignores kwk to vote FRITO

unvotes TEN POSTS LATER. reason givenbwolfs literally using the frito vote to drop his kwk read
kantplay votes for badwolf at this point AND THEN
bwolfs garbageass response to kantplays vote. bwolf makes just this one post and ignores EVERY OTHER PLAYER talking about him


kantplay going for the hard bus to distance from bwolf falling to pieces


so check it. strong possibility kantplay is bwolfs partner. feel out kantplays posts for the other side if you want but i promise this is what NEEDS to happen d3



So I did check out Potato. Surprisingly, Joey shows up as a potential third.


Jumping to KWK's wagon, not too bad in D1.

Joey lets go of the shared Raz vote, andstarts distancing from the wagon, thenJoey makes a sudden and violent 180 to vote KWK.


KWK tapers off of Raz as well, and creates more room between him and Joey.


KWK very quickly justifies Joey's behaviour, and very strongly holds to the position that Joey is town for doing what he did.



Meanwhile Joey is going hard on KWK.


But what does Badwolf think about all of this?

He calls Joey a sheep, buthe doesn't acknowledge the 180, focusing on KWK.

Pre-claim with no explanation:
Post-claim with "explanation":
He sure is upset about this claim. But then this:

Right, because you're going to shoot him.

"He's the cop! I'm not letting you bloodthirsty people lynch our cop!"

Potassium the townie drawing a hard line in the sand. "He IS the cop but what I actually mean is that I have a townread not that I know he's the cop because I'm scum or anything and I'm certainly not avoiding the lynch now since I know I'll shoot him tonight and can score a different ML without making myself visible!"

D2:

Joey's scumread on KVK vanished into the ether, and this post contains reads on every player except for Badwolf. Joey then goes on in many posts following to argue a lot about Raz being town with his scumread Gorf.


Here's where Potato starts the bus on Badwolf -- this is after the post where Badwolf was defending his KWK scumread and the vote/unvote on Frito.Best to leave no room for doubt.


Hops out of the thread with an excuse to sit on Badwolf while making occasional posts from the sidelines.
"but before I go guys I really want to make sure you notice that I want badwolf dead"


"please die stop talking please die
hey I have a surprising amount of time to talk about badwolf after all"



Going for the town points. DENIED.


sorry bro but its hardbus time



notice me town, notice me




Vote: Potassium

Answers to other people tonight.

Man most of this looks like a reach to me. Your Masquerain stuff seems to make more sense than your Potassium one, but maybe I am just biased since I have Masquerain as a scum read.

This specifically:

Right, because you're going to shoot him.

"He's the cop! I'm not letting you bloodthirsty people lynch our cop!"

Potassium the townie drawing a hard line in the sand. "He IS the cop but what I actually mean is that I have a townread not that I know he's the cop because I'm scum or anything and I'm certainly not avoiding the lynch now since I know I'll shoot him tonight and can score a different ML without making myself visible!"

I guess this has some merit since Badwolf hopped on Pawn wagon rather than a Bardul one, but it is WIFOM and still just seems like a huge reach to me.

Joey's scumread on KVK vanished into the ether, and this post contains reads on every player except for Badwolf. Joey then goes on in many posts following to argue a lot about Raz being town with his scumread Gorf.

The bolded is a more interesting venue and something I didn't notice first time around. Masquerain doesn't mention Badwolf at all on his D2 readlist. Coupled with how he treated the BW wagon I could see it as a potential slip.

 

[Fandangox]

I was already feeling softer on Ryu than I was letting on, because like I said he wasn't getting shaken by our push, and then at deadline Raz tried to get Ryu to vote NH:

WHY DIDN'T YOU CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO BADWOLF THEN

 

[Fandangox]

im just going to address this now because im not going to be in thread for a while. reason my reaction to bardull's claim may have looked odd:

im nabe, the crazy french swine (province of quebec), town miller


subtle crumb

this post is just supposed to show that i was upset he claimed as fast as he did because my vote was on him but he was my rvs vote and i didnt intend to add to the pressure to the point of getting a claim, i was just going for reactions at that time since i was null on him and decided to help the building wagon.

thats why i reacted this way

i instantly buy the claim (except for the possibility of CC)

because my role implies the existence of a cop

asked this question to verify that my role PM's wording matches his

he answered correctly, my pm says i will show as "mafia"

now lynch NH

Well despite the terrible reaction you had to NH's wall this claim actually makes sense and the subtle crumb does help your case here.

i dont give a **** bout your ultimatums, i havent been convinced on a joey lynch being a good idea

Why not? Why do you think Masquerain is Town?

I'm not gonna argue this, but you are very wrong here.

I don't care for context, miller is an inherently scummy claim.

Context is EVERYTHING. Its how you tell apart situations and are able to read the intent of people. I can understand if you are trying to keep a straight path in your mind and avoid WIFOM, but come on.

You can't just go "well he claimed miller, he must be scum" Think of WHY he would claim miller, think of the situations that brought up the claim, don't just look at it on a vacuum.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Context is EVERYTHING. Its how you tell apart situations and are able to read the intent of people. I can understand if you are trying to keep a straight path in your mind and avoid WIFOM, but come on.

You can't just go "well he claimed miller, he must be scum" Think of WHY he would claim miller, think of the situations that brought up the claim, don't just look at it on a vacuum.

Just because someone made a scummy claim doesn't mean I think they are scum.

I don't care if you're the towniest person alive, if you claim miller/Bullet Proof etc. I'm going to take a second look at you from this.

Context doesn't matter here, some claims are inherently scummy from what they are.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm willing to lynch Joey if it came down to the wire, I'd prefer NH first since I think the slot is scummier right now.

 

[No Hetero]

Okay, I'll need to come at this from a Nabe perspective briefly.

Miller is not an inherently scummy claim. I can count the number of times I've seen it from scum before -- once, and it was J claiming Miller as Goon in Diddy Kong Racing, after he had already written a Miller role into his RE4 game.

Most of the time I've seen Miller played, it's been by me. I've never been an informed Miller, but I generally figure it out very quickly because there's always flavour reasoning, and I claim Miller the second I know about it. I got Miller 2 or 3 times on DGames, and got a bit of a reputation for the role.

Now, if Rake had known about the association between me and the Miller role, that would be points in Potato's direction. But those were all prior to Rake's time here, and I've never brought it up to him. But Potato had a Miller in his Donkey Kong Mafia, and as scum would have known from a Godfather/Lawyer/other anti-cop in his team that there was a cop in the game, early enough to put the word "milling" into a post to set up a fakeclaim. If you know there's a cop, setting up a Miller claim is a good move to take.


Secondly, this Miller claim was dropped after a case that Potato says he doesn't think is valid. But this claim comes in place of any defense at all against the case. The claim is meant to serve in lieu of a defense, to get people looking away from him. It was made in haste when he perceived there to be more danger to his slot than there was. Why did he perceive more danger? As scum, having one of your scumbuddies already dead would tend to put you in self-preservation mode.


Now, here's my third problem with this claim, the most glaring issue. The Raziek role had the right province assigned. And if there is a Potassium role in this game, it'll be British Columbia.

But I'm from Ontario. Rake and I have had several discussions about our terrible government, and I am forever complaining to him about Ontario's ****ty MPs, and how having Stephen Harper in the same province as me makes my blood boil. There is no way in hell that Rake thinks I'm from Quebec -- but I can believe that Potato would think that, and try to leverage an unclaimed Canadian DGamer as part of his claim.


If there is a real Miller, CC. If there is a real Nabe, CC.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I've been an informed miller and have used informed millers. That don't mean shiz.

What province did he claim? Also, if were gonna go flavor, don't you think Ontario would have a more... Significant role? I'm not even Canadian but that and Quebec are the only provinces my ignorant ass can name, so I assume they're non VT's of some sort, and certainly not a miller.

Even so, Kantrip is from ****ing Canada. If you had this argument being held against any other non Canadian in thread I'd buy it.

Oh and you still aren't doing jack **** to help towns read on you. Get off your mother ****ing high horse and DON'T post in this thread till you have. Your word has become totally useless to me and hopefully everyone else until you stop playing to your own damn agenda.

 

[No Hetero]

also the slots' pushes

bardull #hbc kill kill kill (even post-claim) ---- pushing a townie

Bard was a townie on flip, sure. A fact we couldn't have known when we bodied him on his terrible play, and we gave reasoning for it at the time that you've conveniently ignored.

kill frito not badwolf, you guys are stupid ----- pretty sure ruy is town, so pushing a townie and deterring from a scummer

(deadline hits, we get a bwfold lynch)

actually i like ruy now, good job on that there bwolf lynch ----- 180 on a read that wasn't explained sufficiently and makes no sense, congratulating us for getting the lynch he was saying not to go for because he suddenly thinks it was a good deadline move. lo and behold, bwolf flips scum as he says that (trying to make reads look correct)

This isn't how it went down. I was vocal about my hatred of Badwolf, but Ryu was a mutual scumread between the heads and Badwolf wasn't, a fact I made clear while we were going hard on Ryu. I never called Badwolf town or anything close to town, and I never combatted the Badwolf lynch. I've also gone over exactly how and when I convinced Marshy that Badwolf was the better play.

and now me ----- pushing a townie

isn't that the marshy thing: you guys give him all the thread presence his heart desires and let him blindly lead 3 mislynches before you realize he's scum?

or you can realize it now because that slot is grimy as ****

This defense of my pushes is relevant, because you're trying to line them up as if they're equal steps in a pattern. If we're two mislynches in, it means that the next step (you) is clearly town, right? Get dead.

 

[No Hetero]

What province did he claim? Also, if were gonna go flavor, don't you think Ontario would have a more... Significant role? I'm not even Canadian but that and Quebec are the only provinces my ignorant *** can name, so I assume they're non VT's of some sort, and certainly not a miller.

lolwut Are you trying to tell me that Ontario wouldn't be Nabe because I'm not significant? If not, then what the **** are you saying? I'm not making any argument about whatever role Ontario has, I'm saying Potato is lying about his claim.

Even so, Kantrip is from ****ing Canada. If you had this argument being held against any other non Canadian in thread I'd buy it.

The **** does this have to do with anything? Do Canadians automatically know where other Canadians live? Can some guy in Florida identify the state of every American on the Internet?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I dare you to quote your reasoning for wanting to lynch Bardull D1. Oh, and I mean DURING D1. And no, "he's scummy as ****" is not a valuable answer.

lolwut Are you trying to tell me that Ontario wouldn't be Nabe because I'm not significant? If not, then what the **** are you saying? I'm not making any argument about whatever role Ontario has, I'm saying Potato is lying about his claim.

No, I'm saying you're probably in this games flavor as association with Canada, and that I'd expect Ontario to have a more important PR than miller (but I get where I screwed up interpreting what you were saying). Either way, I feel like the flavor of it all shouldn't really be used to combat Kantrip. What you actually have on him is an extremely shaky connection case on him that he isn't involved in, and you damn the slot on a Joey scum flip by saying his connection to Joey is palpable. BWolf's dialogue with em was weird but that's literally the same thing as BP damning me for BWolfs dialogue with me.

Oh and that bottom paragraph is laughable. DGames has an American majority idiot, either way I can locate every state on a ****ing map so yes if I was from Canada and where you lived OF THE THIRTEEN PROVINCES was discussed (I'm sure this topic was brought up since were all social butterflies) I'd know what province you live in prior to claiming your name and a province that isn't that one. I know Kuz lives in NY. I know Ryker lives in Alabama. I know sword and vinyl live in Florida. He'll, from that quote, it's clear you know I live in Florida. **** doesn't your location on the Nabe account say Ontario? That's such a weak point, and that's my point.

Obtw thanks for just ignoring my request of your slot taking other townies interests to heart. I mean I know if you were town you'd probably have gotten to em earlier but oh well right?

 

[No Hetero]

badwolf's votes jumped everywhere because he was faking reads and was scum and all his unvotes made zero sense, it wasn't just his vote pattern on me. it was on gorf, frito, and literally everyone he voted

it's possible that he threw a scummate into his list of scummers, but if he did it was gorf

The "vote pattern" is this:

- Badwolf votes for KWK D1, does nothing to try for a lynch, then calls the slot null, then says "I've hitched my vote to KWK but I guess that's not going to happen" even though he hasn't done anything to try to get a KWK lynch

- D2, Badwolf talks up all his reasoning for KWKscum to defend it, then immediately votes Frito

This is distancing behaviour. He parks a vote on you all day as a show that he's onto you (read: he knows you're scum so he thinks he's getting credit) then D2 he talks you up as scum but votes elsewhere.

reading that wall and seeing how many of the points are

bad

bull****

reaching

misconstruing things

and confirmation bias

makes me physically angry

people please actually read the things he's saying and then look at what he's referring it to IN CONTEXT (yes i know thats a lot of work, and its work i dont want to do as much as you dont want to do it) and see that he's making **** up

NH can **** outta hear

Vote: No Hetero

"makes me physically angry"

This is a good AtE. I'm still looking for a defense though.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@ Kantrip I give you full permission to ignore every post NH makes toward you until they return the favor to the rest of town.

Yes NH I am going to try make your time in here a living hell as long as you aren't cooperating.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Actually NH, how about we compromise on Joey? He's a potential third right? And you seem to have found his play scummy too! I will proceed to cockblock the living **** out of your lynch until Joey's dead. Only then will I take it into consideration. But, at least for me, it's either Joey or you and the rest of town seems to agree. So vote em.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Okay, I'll need to come at this from a Nabe perspective briefly.

Miller is not an inherently scummy claim. I can count the number of times I've seen it from scum before -- once, and it was J claiming Miller as Goon in Diddy Kong Racing, after he had already written a Miller role into his RE4 game.

Most of the time I've seen Miller played, it's been by me. I've never been an informed Miller, but I generally figure it out very quickly because there's always flavour reasoning, and I claim Miller the second I know about it. I got Miller 2 or 3 times on DGames, and got a bit of a reputation for the role.

Now, if Rake had known about the association between me and the Miller role, that would be points in Potato's direction. But those were all prior to Rake's time here, and I've never brought it up to him. But Potato had a Miller in his Donkey Kong Mafia, and as scum would have known from a Godfather/Lawyer/other anti-cop in his team that there was a cop in the game, early enough to put the word "milling" into a post to set up a fakeclaim. If you know there's a cop, setting up a Miller claim is a good move to take.


Secondly, this Miller claim was dropped after a case that Potato says he doesn't think is valid. But this claim comes in place of any defense at all against the case. The claim is meant to serve in lieu of a defense, to get people looking away from him. It was made in haste when he perceived there to be more danger to his slot than there was. Why did he perceive more danger? As scum, having one of your scumbuddies already dead would tend to put you in self-preservation mode.


Now, here's my third problem with this claim, the most glaring issue. The Raziek role had the right province assigned. And if there is a Potassium role in this game, it'll be British Columbia.

But I'm from Ontario. Rake and I have had several discussions about our terrible government, and I am forever complaining to him about Ontario's ****ty MPs, and how having Stephen Harper in the same province as me makes my blood boil. There is no way in hell that Rake thinks I'm from Quebec -- but I can believe that Potato would think that, and try to leverage an unclaimed Canadian DGamer as part of his claim.


If there is a real Miller, CC. If there is a real Nabe, CC.

This is weak.

I'm not gonna damn Kantrip because he claimed a different province.

You should get to answering legitimate questions though, like why you said Bardull was scummy D1 or why your didn't vote Badwolf despite the 180 til the very last minute.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I consider miller inherently scummy because.

1.) Easy as **** to fake, I did this in Wallgreen's mafia by CCing someone I knew was faking a miller claim and rode it to lylo til a mod **** up.

2.) Is even easier when you know a cop exists or can just play it off as being a red herring a mod threw in.

I'm not gonna call Kantrip scum on that alone, heck I believe him because of how he claimed and his crumbs the more important aspect of trying to read into a claim not the claim itself.

I still consider miller to be inherently a scummy claim, but I am not going to lynch or clear someone on it even if I do not consider miller claims to be pro town.

 

[No Hetero]

I dare you to quote your reasoning for wanting to lynch Bardull D1. Oh, and I mean DURING D1. And no, "he's scummy as ****" is not a valuable answer.

Except, sweetums, and I don't mean to be coarse in my discussion with you, but if there's a cop at all, maybe he isn't going to counterclaim in the first Day when he could just lynch Bard for being obviously scummy. See: Jerksauce's argument that no cop would ever crumb this way. To see how true this is, look at Brett Hull's reasoning for having done so:


Brett Hull sees his town cop PM, and decides to throw it in the trash? I don't think so, luv.

Claiming to be any PR in D1 (which is what he did by saying he was important, prior to the actual roleclaim) is a play with the goal of getting shot at Night. It's trading your hiding spot within the other townies for, "hey, scum, look at me." This is a move exclusive to VTs, and even when a VT makes that play, they do it as a subtle crumb that townies aren't going to catch on and make a deal out of it, while the mafia (reading for PR crumbs) will see and will shoot them at Night, thinking they've found a PR. That was the original problem of this situation: Bard stuck a neon sign next to his head.

Either way, I feel like the flavor of it all shouldn't really be used to combat Kantrip. What you actually have on him is an extremely shaky connection case on him that he isn't involved in, and you damn the slot on a Joey scum flip by saying his connection to Joey is palpable. BWolf's dialogue with em was weird but that's literally the same thing as BP damning me for BWolfs dialogue with me.

Joey is a cool third, but I don't think you've read my wall if you think it's just connections. BP damning you isn't the same thing, because you're obviously town. Potassium voted Bard without stating a reason, and got a cop claim out of it. Then he did nothing until deadline and hopped onto the popular wagon. The reason he didn't have to do anything: he already got his work in for the Day by getting the claim to shoot him at Night, and didn't care who the mislynch was. Then after expressing no suspicion D1, he fingers Badwolf D2, framed as an OMGUS from BW's vote D1, trying to hide behind Raz and Fand expressing actual arguments.

Oh and that bottom paragraph is laughable. DGames has an American majority idiot, either way I can locate every state on a ****ing map so yes if I was from Canada and where you lived OF THE THIRTEEN PROVINCES was discussed (I'm sure this topic was brought up since were all social butterflies) I'd know what province you live in prior to claiming your name and a province that isn't that one. I know Kuz lives in NY. I know Ryker lives in Alabama. I know sword and vinyl live in Florida. He'll, from that quote, it's clear you know I live in Florida. **** doesn't your location on the Nabe account say Ontario? That's such a weak point, and that's my point.

Your state is one of the only ones I know, and only because I've been to Florida. Ryker lives in the South, Gheb lives in Austria, Xonar is in the Netherlands, and that's all I know. My location on the Nabe account doesn't say Ontario. Until recently it said "King's Town" which is a reference to Kingston, a small non-notable town to someone who lives 2,400 miles from Ontario. I've never talked to Potassium about where I live or about Canada in general, and if he knew where I lived, he'd have said, "Now, I know this is weird, but I'm Nabe from Quebec even though I know he's from Ontario."

Obtw thanks for just ignoring my request of your slot taking other townies interests to heart. I mean I know if you were town you'd probably have gotten to em earlier but oh well right?

Keep your **** in your pants. Is there something specific that you think I'm ignoring? I'll probably get to it while I'm digging.

 

[No Hetero]

or why your didn't vote Badwolf despite the 180 til the very last minute.

Marshy and I both wanted your lynch, but he was hard against Badwolf scum until Badwolf unvoted Frito. Even then, he was only down with RyuTown after the Circus kill, as I've already said. He wasn't going to switch to Badwolf from you D2, no chance of it. I was V/LA and didn't get here to make the Badwolf vote until the moment I made it.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Read the thread and figure it out. If not, feel free to guide yourself to the noose.

 

[#HBC | J]

As the main proponent of a Joey lynch, I have a question to ask.

Why would we lynch Joey besides to avoid replacement drama at this juncture when we have this amazing NH/Kanty debate? Especially considering the debate is leaning up to be SvT in my eyes. If Joey does flip town, we have to do the 50/50 gamble tomorrow between the other slots since we would be at our supposed "3rd available mislynch".

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well to avoid replacement drama for one.

Joey is more tangibly scummy to me than either of those slots, and yields a more likely scum flip to happen toDay than if I were to just choose between either of the two slots. Plus, that forces me to make the decision to drop my vote on NH toDay (cuz let's face it I doubt either head will cooperate even though I'VE BEEN TELLING THEM THE KEY TO SAVING THEIR OWN HIDES) when I could easily just be wrong. A Joey scum flip, if you believe him to more likely flip scum, which you do, is safer. Besides we've only had one ML.

 

[#HBC | J]

We get more information out of the NH/Kanty lynch. That is undeniable, correct?

 

[No Hetero]

Oh and you still aren't doing jack **** to help towns read on you. Get off your mother ****ing high horse and DON'T post in this thread till you have. Your word has become totally useless to me and hopefully everyone else until you stop playing to your own damn agenda.

I dare you to quote your reasoning for wanting to lynch Bardull D1. Oh, and I mean DURING D1. And no, "he's scummy as ****" is not a valuable answer.

shut your ****ing bitchass mouth gorf

what the **** are you even DOING? YOU are not helping TOWNS read on ME by acting like a complete ****stain. i AM helping towns read on me by PUSHING THE LYNCH OF A ****ING SCUMBAG. THIS IS WHAT I DO AND YOU KNOW IT. you are SERIOUSLY pulling a ruy here and being an extra member for scum by belittling my hardon for potato for no reason. and ive REPEATEDLY pointed out reasons for bard on d1. wanna read them? read the ****ing thread yourself you little *****. i KNOW you are not ******** about ****ing bard who YOU started the assault on

potato didnt even ****in try to go through and defend the ****. he just multiposted ated and pointed out a crumb. WHY the **** wouldnt someone just claim miller at the start of the game? WHY the **** are you letting potato the SAME ****ing bull**** he did in tranquility? he was about to die and guess what he did there? he ated out his ass and claimed and town ate it up to bite them in the ass later. his reaction here is even worse cuz its so ****in fake (I AM PHYSICALLY ANGRY RIGHT NOW!! ***** please shut your ****in mouth potato) and over done

read the ****ing case again if youre seriously tryna assert that its all connections and come holla at me when you learn to read. cockblock my efforts as much as you want but ill body you up and down this thread til you get THE **** out the way in the meantime

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Sure, but what more info do you need if you think Joey is scum and one of kanty/NH are scum? Sure there's the possibility of an Indy but it's not like they can get caught with connections n ****. Either way I'll be totally on board with lynching either Joey or NH toDay it seems like, so if the votes seem to be there and not over on Joey's I'll move mah vote.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Marshy u mad?

 

[Kantrip]

i thought you were from ontario myself, but i guess rakes dumb

 

[Kantrip]

also damn i was terrible yesterday, sorry guys

lifes rough

 

[Kantrip]

can you consolidate the case into something more manageable for me to respond to?

im not tackling it in its current form but think it deserves addressing rather than me blowing up like i did

 

[Kantrip]

if anyone else rolled nabe from ontario feel free to CC me

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@ #HBC | Gorf I am really back and forth with my read on you, but still you sure Joey is more likely scum over NH?

@J can you talk about Joey's d2 play I'm gonna give you this on my reread, his D1doean't read town to me, but his D2 is better, thoughts on that?

 

[No Hetero]

Marshy u mad?

frustrateds a better word. im not frothing at the mouth flippin **** like the language in my last post suggests but its a pain in the ass to go through all the effort to pull what i did from the thread point out WHY POTATOS PLAY MIRRORS HIS SCUMPLAY (and just scumplay in general before someone comes in here and ****s on meta) and then i just get **** on when im pretty ****ing sure hes scum especially by YOU when you of all people should know the frustrations of bein *********** of a legitimate suspicion considering luigis mansion tranquility and the other recent ****fests weve had the misfortune of bein a part of as of late

im sayin this for ****** to WAKE the **** up and consider what im sayin instead of just baselessly yelling "HERP MARSHY YOURE NOT HELPING TOWN" when ive been putting myself out on a ****ing limb for a suspicion that was ignored until we ****in pointed out and presented it to town. why the **** even do that obnoxious bull****? youre doin the same ****in bull**** that aggro did to us in lm and we all know how that benefited absolutely no one

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm finally behind a computer with no distractions mainly, so I will begin reading more in-depth and into conversations/questions now.

 

[#HBC | J]

What about his push made it look so genuine to you? What do you think of the way he treated Gorf and KWK

Don't dismiss emotion as credible. It's mainly how I scumhunt. Anyways, the genuineness in his anger towards posting and his interactions with people. I am almost covinced on re-read that BW+Gorf =/= scum-mates. Kanty could be based on him being scummy rather than connections to BW. This game is different where connections to find scum-mates is going to be harder, but it is easier to find disconnections to slots that do not suggest they are related. So I do not have much to say on that matter.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm gonna be honest.

I laughed pretty damn hard at Kanty suggesting that "miller" was 1.) a legit claim 2.) a claim a townie would crumb 3.) something he could use to defend himself. I've hosted games with millers in them, I have fake-claimed miller as scum, I have been millers as town. Seriously, it's not a "point of innocence" in any aspect. To be honest, I see it as more scumKanty fake-crumbing miller in case he was ever investigated.

Good laugh though. 7.5/10 would laugh again.

 

[Kantrip]

im not claiming its townie

but its also not scummy

its kind of just a thing that i claimed with no pros or cons either way, so null

 

[#HBC | J]

miller's only a scummy claim when there's

1. possibly still a cop alive that the claim would help avoid a guilty on me

2. a guilty already claimed on me

town had a cop but it's already dead, a miller claim grants me literally no favours

sometimes i wonder if you actually use your brain to do logic when you play mafia, or if you just look through a textbook for answers

No....just.....no to so much... I can't even. Ruy was using logic. YOU are not using logic. This response is among one of your worst. Just because you are trying to be uppity to be uppity and just completely...ew.

I can't this post. I can't even.

 

[Kantrip]

maybe j really is a 16 year old girl