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[#HBC | Red Ryu]

... I'll take you guys up on townRuy. I've possibly gotten caught up with it in the same way that I did with Raz, so I'll let y'all know after the Night. G shiz on the BWolf lynch, idk if that last post seals the deal but it seems so.

Were you?

Why did you stick to me or find really scummy?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

yep we defs got a bwolf lynch

so you were scum right badscum?

What do you think of day 2 overall? I want your current thoughts for a lynch.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Badwolf

Starting to feel good about Ryu, elaboration when I'm not hammered. BW getting rocked is a pleasant deadline move, good job whoever got it moving,,

Now is the time to elaborate.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

That's a wierd night kill.

Badwolf flipped scum so time to reread.

That ain't a weird kill Circus ALWAYS dies when he's VT, plus your case wasn't really something that mafia would look at n say "wow we should leave em alone in case people wanna attack em."

Hey J you have some 'splainin to do.

Were you?

Why did you stick to me or find really scummy?

Yea you're probz town at this point. Being wrong about Circus certainly helps the read as well.

 

[Raziek]

Yea you're probz town at this point. Being wrong about Circus certainly helps the read as well.

This is a good point.

I need to review the timing of J's posts around the Badwolf lynch. The defense looks bad, but I don't want to totally jump to conclusions on it without carefully looking at it.

 

[Blindfolded Philosophers]

Alright so on a re-read one thing stuck out to us now that we have some hard evidence to look at, and that's Badwolf's treatment of Gorf. Fandangox already touched on this some when pointing out the discrepancy between his stated read in 205 and his vote, but there's even more posts that paint a consistent picture about Badwolf's behavior towards the slot. He also extends a similar dismissal for a time to Ryu.

Please read the spoiler of Badwolf's one liner observations.

All it takes is half to lynch. #thoughts

NOTES CAUSE I DON'T CARE RIGHT NOW

Spoiler

#37 FT- I really don’t like this hydra….. Probably won’t like it until they get off the crazy.

#42 BD - (I have no other way to make this name smaller) I don’t like this post. He’s playing like Ryker and doesn’t have the rep to back it.

#42 Joey - Do you even lift?

#45 FT - SO much crazy

#47 FT - Can I just be the first to say that I’m waiting with baited breath for this slot to fall behind on reading so I don’t have to hear the crazy?

#52 FT - Started good, but then ended crazy.

(I mean crazy in a way that I don’t like him but I’m not throwing a scum read on him, he’s just annoying really)

#57 Gorf - I really hope that I’m going to get along with this slot this game. It’s been a while since Gorf and I have actually liked each other in game.

I am legit confused as to what the whole interaction between NH and Pawn was. (Although I love his new nickname (right up there with Pawndiddlydoodad))

#70 NH - Totally homo for Harkness

#72 BD- I like this well enough. Missed it on my read, glad that he caught it.

#88 Raz - Hey my thoughts are in other people’s heads. I’m good with this.

#90 Gorf - I’m sad we can’t be friends. I don’t like how he’s just brushing off everyone’s stuff. It’s just kinda…… ummmm I don’t remember the word right now…. But I don’t like it nonetheless. (Ha! Condescending. Thanks BD.)

#95 KWK - 1. I hope you aren’t going to be posting like this all game. It’s… ugh. Creepy animal pics.

2. Raz isn’t happy about Gorf’s defense of NH, not his RVS vote.

#96 BD - Cool. Pretty much what I said just in more words.

#126 Gorf - Ugh, can he get off his high horse plz? You’re being really just snide which doesn’t make me believe you anymore. It’s basically making me think that we have a real point with you.

@ #HBC | Gorf Are you in a neighborhood with KWK?

They're kinda weak, I'm going to reread in the morning cause I'm tired and I have a day off tomorrow.

His first noted stance to Gorf is "I hope we can be friends" on an otherwise uninteresting post. Why would he feel the need to comment that in particular? Then as he goes on he quickly devolves into being sad and upset by Gorf's attitude. Not his actions, but his attitude. Note he never pushes to Gorf, just discredits him. I could see a scumBadwolf trying to fake content of course, but this particular style of treatment to Ryu/Gorf interests me.

Then when we get to Badwolf's big wall at 205, he talks up a storm about how bad/offensive/"scum lean" Gorf is before voting KWK as already pointed out. But look at a few of these oddly specific comments to Gorf.

Gorf please don't play like this, it's bad and you know it. Esp. someone with your skill level and intelligence. Just.... Be more kk? I wanna be friends.

Gorf's 90 is nasty. He's being overconfident in his ability to look town and it's not hitting me in any good way. Cool your jets and stop playing ****ty kk?

As of that post my thoughts are that if KWK is scum Gorf is cool, but if Gorf is scum I'm down with pushing Frito. (Although he probably won't be caught up by D2)

The attitude man. GEEZZZZ. It's ugly that he's just brushing off anyone calling him out. It feels like he knows he can't be lynched right now cause he's got at least 3-5 people who have his back? It's like a shield of J, BP, and others.

Paints a clear picture of what Badwolf is focused on, the appearance of Gorf rather than the actual scum Gorf may have had.


Then Gorf responds in the two posts directly after by surface level bashing Badwolf with name calling:

So you're the guy who likes to bang horses right?

Kidding. Obviously it's exclusive to MLP characters.

And then quoting Badwolf as "Horse****er" in his second quote.


So our question right now is, was this all a scum distancing attempt? I could see Badwolf being the type to feel the need to try to generate comments on his scummates in order to not seem unquestioning, but also without pushing them for real reasons. This tangentally applies to Frito as well for the "crazy" comments, but mostly to Gorf considering how much focus he gave.

Vote: Gorf

Discuss?

 

[Blindfolded Philosophers]

I'm also kind of relieved Circus flipped, he was actually on Gheb's "can die" list so that's one less mislynch opportunity to worry about. Selfish I know :u

Will have to continue that re-read in light of that tho

I've got the feeling J/Ryu/Gorf are gonna be the topics de-jour today so anything anyone has on (or for) them would be most appreciated

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Alright so on a re-read one thing stuck out to us now that we have some hard evidence to look at, and that's Badwolf's treatment of Gorf. Fandangox already touched on this some when pointing out the discrepancy between his stated read in 205 and his vote, but there's even more posts that paint a consistent picture about Badwolf's behavior towards the slot. He also extends a similar dismissal for a time to Ryu.

Please read the spoiler of Badwolf's one liner observations.




His first noted stance to Gorf is "I hope we can be friends" on an otherwise uninteresting post. Why would he feel the need to comment that in particular? Then as he goes on he quickly devolves into being sad and upset by Gorf's attitude. Not his actions, but his attitude. Note he never pushes to Gorf, just discredits him. I could see a scumBadwolf trying to fake content of course, but this particular style of treatment to Ryu/Gorf interests me.

Then when we get to Badwolf's big wall at 205, he talks up a storm about how bad/offensive/"scum lean" Gorf is before voting KWK as already pointed out. But look at a few of these oddly specific comments to Gorf.



Paints a clear picture of what Badwolf is focused on, the appearance of Gorf rather than the actual scum Gorf may have had.


Then Gorf responds in the two posts directly after by surface level bashing Badwolf with name calling:



And then quoting Badwolf as "Horse****er" in his second quote.


So our question right now is, was this all a scum distancing attempt? I could see Badwolf being the type to feel the need to try to generate comments on his scummates in order to not seem unquestioning, but also without pushing them for real reasons. This tangentally applies to Frito as well for the "crazy" comments, but mostly to Gorf considering how much focus he gave.

Vote: Gorf

Discuss?

I'm thinking similar with how Gorf was yesterday, I'm rethinking how I'm reading the slot at this point.

More so it would fit with how he played in MMU when I thought he was scum there, his push on the town bomb stopped looking like he was trying to read the slot or the wagon. I'm getting less of an impression he is actively trying to read people and more so trying to aim for a lynch.

Gonna reread in full but I am looking at the Gorf/Hetero/J area right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That ain't a weird kill Circus ALWAYS dies when he's VT, plus your case wasn't really something that mafia would look at n say "wow we should leave em alone in case people wanna attack em."

Was anyone really calling Circus as auto town? And I mean, would take to lylo town?

He was inactive and not on the active area, that's why it is wierd, not because I thought he was scum, because he didn't seem like a priority shot over active townies.

 

[Raziek]

I feel like you're giving BW too much credit here, BP.

There were several slots that he ignored entirely, and given that Gorf tends to be HELLA ABRASIVE, and BW has a tendency to get verbally crapped on, some of those comments seem exactly what I'd expect.

I will, however, re-read with that in mind, when I get a chance.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Ayy BP I like the effort n all but Raz has it on the money. I tend not to be the nicest guy to people I scum read (read: every game I've played like ever), and it's not damning that BWolf was targeting my slot the way he did. That sure makes him scummy, but that alone is like saying that scum will usually make direct statements about their partner. Why was he scared about putting a vote on me? Cuz he was scum. "Cuz I'm his mate" is not an answer to this question. Plus, since you read back, look at the timeline. It's just... I mean there's really nothing I can defend cuz you're damning me for badwolfs actions, which I can't control.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Was anyone really calling Circus as auto town? And I mean, would take to lylo town?

He was inactive and not on the active area, that's why it is wierd, not because I thought he was scum, because he didn't seem like a priority shot over active townies.

Not really but his was certainly okay to stay for a while. It's not really important doe.

So far I feel like No Hetero Joey and J need to be looked at. I will be reading back toNight but really it boils down to the fact that I have A SOLID amount of town reads. Potassium is nulltown from what I remember but the rest of town's fine enough for me to call em town.

 

[Fandangox]

After Badwolf's scum flip J really has some explaining to do.

Votecount 1.4

Players being Voted
Gorf(1): (Joey)
Badwolf(2): (Fandagox,Potassium)
FT(2): (No Hetero,Gorf)

Players not Voting

Raz,FT(RR), Blindfolded Philosophers, Circus,Potassium,BW

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!!

Deadline is tonight at MIDNIGHT!!

Did he vote last Phase? Last Votecount excluded him from both lists.

@J Answer me these:

Why? What do you dislike about the wagon? What do you like about Bwolf's D2 play?

And also what are your scumreads?

@ #HBC | Gorf @ Raziek @ Blindfolded Philosophers

What do you guys think of Masquerain and No Hetero, specially how these two treated the BW wagon? I don't remember much of what Masquerain did D2 but the way he appeared just to hop on the wagon and leave again seems a bit odd to me, granted I think it was close to deadline, so he wouldn't have much time to post anything else, but still.

No Hetero did say he disliked Badwolf, and even asked me If I'd rather have BW over Frito, but yet he doesn't vote him until the very last minute. It's probably a bold claim, but I am not even sure he knew his vote would go through, it was extremely close to the deadline. I could see a scum player doing something like this. If it doesn't go through, Scum gets a no lynch, if it goes, Scum looks as it hammered the other scum player.

Thoughts on this?

@ No Hetero By the question you asked me in your #663 it seemed like you were set on Badwolf over Frito, why didn't you change your vote back then?

Either way I am gonna re-read D2 thoroughly later.

 

[Fandangox]

So our question right now is, was this all a scum distancing attempt? I could see Badwolf being the type to feel the need to try to generate comments on his scummates in order to not seem unquestioning, but also without pushing them for real reasons. This tangentally applies to Frito as well for the "crazy" comments, but mostly to Gorf considering how much focus he gave.

Vote: Gorf

Discuss?

I don't know, the way he seemed to dislike Gorf yet focused on KWK was certainly odd, I think this was just him faking content and not a distancing attempt against Gorf. Also Gorf did call him a horse****** after all. Gonna keep this in mind though when I re-read.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I don't know, the way he seemed to dislike Gorf yet focused on KWK was certainly odd, I think this was just him faking content and not a distancing attempt against Gorf. Also Gorf did call him a horse****** after all. Gonna keep this in mind though when I re-read.

I'd still consider and look into it either way.

 

[Dooms]

Gonna let J say what he needs to say before I throw myself anywhere near that direction.

I'm with Raziek on the Gord & Badwolf thing. That is exactly how I would expect a conversation between the two of those players to go.

I don't understand why people are trying to connect gord, nh, or ryu with badwolf. People explain pls.

 

[#HBC | J]

Head's up, I wrote this during the night-time, before Circus' flip/etc.

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So I am writing this post during the Night Phase of the game because I am bored and I cannot sleep so let me just flesh some things out because I was wrong on BW and that does perplex me. I think my problem was I was giving way too much credit to his genuineness and by reading his early play as genuine I put that read on auto-pilot and continued to just think as such throughout the rest of the game without truly reading his posts. It's a problem I have with town-reads most of the time because I turn them on mute unless they become a part of a debate with a scum-read of mine. Kind of glad I was not here around the BW lynch because I honestly would have tried to cockblock it and that would have been a misfortunate misplay on my part. This game is just going incredibly fast and it's weird because I keep thinking I have more time to read, but by the time I get in a lynch has already occurred.

Oh well, that's in the past and time to move to the present. I had to do some re-evaluating of some reads, but with BWscum, some puzzle pieces fit much more clearly then I originally had thought because I had blinders on him. However, one of these reads may be gone so a little section of this post may just be moot since they are no longer with us. I am sold on certain reads which would be RazTown, KantyTown, RuyTown and I want to say FannyTown as well. That would make 5 slots town by process of elim. Kanty and Raz are the only two I would consider later later later later later later later later down the road due to two things: One, Kanty has become much better at bussing his partners (a.k.a. My experience and blinding myself to his slot a bit till the end in FFT2 mafia) and then Raz because there is something nagging me about that slot, but I cannot put my finger on it. When I have in my town category I feel like it fits, but I wonder to myself if I am actually just wanting to make it fit like I did with BW. For now, these reads can be my solid towny reads. I have changed my read on Frito (a.k.a. just Ruy) because their play during the BW debate turns them way more towny in the light of their other, albeit, confusing play because the thing that was holding me is the fact the slot's early play had be befuddled while there was also the fact that Ruy made them ISO on Circus and tried to contort every way into a scummy vibe. The more I look at it (after reading it about 5 times...lol) the more I am seeing that he is just a misguided townie with his thoughts all jumbled up. Scares me a bit though that he had a right read in BW because through logic and past performances, this should mean that he is scum haha. (Kidding, of course)

Finally I would like to talk about Fanny in more detail because he is a read I seem to have been reading wrong due to tone and not being careful enough while reading. Since I only have this game going now, I can truly focus on things and get to the nitty gritty of people's posts. Fanny is town because his logic is very sound and is ringing very true to what I read in F&L2 mafia and reminds me of the play that I fought with marshy with that you were town. Fanny's play is asking very good questions and getting to the right avenues that look like scum-hunting from a townsperson. The more I think about Fanny and the more I type about him, the more he is easily becoming one of my strongest town-reads in the entire game. He is asking questions that are even making me squirm as a townie because some of the questions I do not want to answer because I am on a tilt so far this game in terms of reads. (well 1/3 so far, but one being a scummy is a big deal for me, nailing a town read is lame because the odds are greater) So for now, I am trusting Fanny's opinion a lot and holding quite a considerable amount of weight into what he has to say.

That just leaves quite a few slots actually. There is Gorf/BP/NH/Joey/Circus which is sadly half of the players. If I were to take a guess at this point and it's kind of a shot in the dark I would eliminate BP as possible scum. I just do not see Ditzy as scum this game and I do not want to lynch him. I would need hard evidence to lynch them or even consider them. I am glad they dropped their shtick though because it was confusing me mor ethan most hydra slots do. I would like to hear what Gheb's opinions on things are since it seems to be being run by Ditzy lately and I haven't seen much in terms of reads. The only thing that makes me pause from putting this slot into directly a town read would be the fact that he had voted for Frito to be lynched yesterDay instead of moving his vote which could look like a notion to cockblock a lynch on the scum-buddy and the fact that they are fading more and more into the background of the game now that more than a lot of people have begun to town-read them. I will say it's this sentence that bugs me the most:

Hmm no can do. I've got my orders from the philosophic league of gentleman and Ryu is still at the top of the list, NH on the other hand is not.

Because it implies that he wasn't even considering a BW lynch and would have let a NL go through instead of lynch him. The reason I think this could be more likely than not is because he came back into the thread knowing that deadline was that night because he posted after Raz' frantic posts of announcing the time of the deadline. Idk, this is just a slot that I am thinking of in the back of mind over that of others.

Gorf, weird slot. Probably in the same boat as Circus. With BW flipping scum I have these two lower on my "like" list. I was letting them skate in terms of my reads but Gorf is just not showing me anything that is bursting with towniness. I really liked his case on Frito in the beginning but he has been too malleable with his voting record and would move his vote just by being asked about it. I just don't see his gusto or his wanting to lynch someone or be a towny. I remember having this problem when reading him in F&L2 because his play has changed dramatically so I am just going to go on tells that I think I can gain. Whenever I read his slot, I just keep wanting more after that D1 case and he just is here to say things or move his vote, but I cannot see his end-goal. I do not get the intention that his end-goal is to lynch/find scum but he is being rather lazy in his thought process or just wanting to HBC people because it is an easy way to get things done. Does he makes sense as BW's partner? I do not know if I can say for certain. The thing that is not making me want his head as scum is that I can see certain gears turning to either do one of two things: A.) Change his opinions on people for genuine reasons or B.) Change his mind in thread to appease the town consensus. At this time I am feeling more the former of this slot. I still have my eye on him though.

Circus. I want to like him, but his not being here and not doing much and the only notable thing I can recall of him is the fact that he wanted to lynch Frito. I can understand this a bit due to the case he has and Circus' tunnel nature that he can get, but at the same time I cannot remember much from him. I liked the way he responds to questions but that could be because Circus' is one of the stronger players and knows how to say things without leaving himself open to investigations from other slots. Him and Gorf would be what I consider my nulls this game. I could go either way on them being scum or town, but what I need from both slots would be just more posts and more concrete foundations to build a paper trail to. That is a paranoia theory I am having towards Circus. A lot of his good posts are just posts with sound logic and not that of him having sound scum-hunting. There is also this vibe I am getting that he is purposefully not trying to leave behind a paper trail to anyone in the event that he is lynched. The only player I can recall him having a legit connection to is Frito based off his vote onto him and that is about it. I do not have much else to say as in where his reads are or where his head is. It is just, meh. I know he said he is going to be inactive (and trust me, I can totally understand) but at the same time, when he is here and posting, I want more actual things. Actual questions being asked. Talking to more people. Having a good hard stance on any slot that isn't Ruy.

NH, I just get bad vibes from this slot. However, I would like to take this time to truly go into why I feel the way I do regarding this slot. Their pushes this game are nonexistant. They are here, but not here. They let others do the work for them in "what they want" in terms of scum-reads, but they have not yet focused down on why they want the person they want dead. It looks more like scumMarshy phoning it in while Nabe posts every now and then. Plus when this slot is town, I recall them being way more involved and also way more involved in their character if they were town trying to scum-hunt. Nabe said he was busy with life a lot (and in the V/LA thread) so I will give him that like I have to Circus. It is just that when this slot does post, there is nothing but just cajoling the lynch that looks most likely to happen and just helping move it forward. They are just adding oil to the fire and then walking away like nothing happened, but can say they were a part of it if it turns out to be favorable for them. There has yet to be a push from this slot that is "their own" or at least in some way shows that they are independently trying to find scum in a way. One final reason I would say why I do not like this slot is because of the fact that there has yet to be a single post that made me want to think of them as town or have them as town.

Joey, probably my biggest scum-read at this point and it is mainly for not a lot of reasons. I still detest his post on flip-flopping on KWK but that is all he has done this game and that was on D1 of the game. His vibes throughout the entire game has just not been here and I do not know for certain if he is just busy with life or that he is actively avoiding the thread which makes me want to think he is actually more likely to flip scum than not. The only time he has come into the thread on D2 would be at deadline and to vote BW at that which makes me believe that he has been reading the thread, but not commenting on things but saw an opportunity to try and gain some townie points by being on the BW lynch and being on the wagon. He has not come into this game at all yet and has not scum-hunted at all. That is a big problem for me, on D1 he was making a lot of hot air over KWK but that was just to net his lynch it seemed instead of actually trying to give Kanty a fair chance into the game and just looking to gain some early cred for "looking like he was doing work". It is something that I am remembering is more like scumJoey than that of TownJoey that asks questions and looks for scum rather than just fade out and not do anything and flip-flop on reads so harshly just to vote them for a lynch without providing any other reads. I have no idea where this slot stands and I also had no idea that he was feeling a BW lynch. I would say Joey is my highest priority to push right now and would love to see his lynch occur out of the lot. There is also a scum-read that I am trying to feel out for more here and that would be his vote on Gorf and his dislike for the slot. I do not know where this came from or where exactly he was going with this. Just a lot of weird plays coming from Joey and I do not like it at all.

Vote: -Masquerain-

My vote will continue to be on Joey for quite some town. I will however join a NH lynch

That is all from me at the moment. I hope this helps gets my thoughts acrossed more at the current time. I know people will have questions for me regarding BW since I made such a bold opinion on him being town and will answer those promptly when asked.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Gonna let J say what he needs to say before I throw myself anywhere near that direction.

I'm with Raziek on the Gord & Badwolf thing. That is exactly how I would expect a conversation between the two of those players to go.

I don't understand why people are trying to connect gord, nh, or ryu with badwolf. People explain pls.

Hetero, Gorf and J I don't like on Badwolf scum. Gorf less so than than the other two.

Not done with me reread but people shouldn't be tossing away Girf because he called Badwolf a horse ******.

 

[#HBC | J]

@ Fandangox

I do not recall voting last phase at all. Do not know why my name was excluded though.

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Bah, go scummy people go!

 

[Circus]

(Circus), Erwin, the Empty Space in the North of Canada (The Northwest Territories), Vanilla Townie

Had been brutally slashed to death (DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNN)

Go town, eh.

 

[Dooms]

I've been very busy. When I'm not in school/at rehearsal, I'm either in some form of counseling, practicing, or socializing. Mafia has kind of taken a back seat when it comes to making posts, but I have been reading on mobile so that I wouldn't really fall too behind. Don't post on Mobile because I generally don't have enough time to make a full post.

I went BW because it was a BW or Ryu scenario and I was townreading Ryu (as already stated). That's pretty much it. BW was honestly a slot I forgot about altogether, so I was definitely willing to lynch him over Ryu. Not sure how I would get town points from drunk voting BW when prodded, but okay.

I don't see scumGord with scum BW based on how BW just sat on him the whole game and wouldn't stop telling us not to meta defend him. We gave him so many opportunities to not talk about Gord, and he just kept on doing it. It seems like he legitimately wanted Gord dead, not to just distance himself from Gord. My thoughts, at least.

I used to be known for flip flopping frequently as both alignments. I'm not sure why you're trying to force that mentality onto me as a scum trait specifically, but to each their own.

Saying I was only here for the lynch on Day 2 is kind of silly considering I posted all of my reads a few pages before the lynch. |:

Gord's responses showed me town intent I didn't see prior, so I didn't push him anymore because I wouldn't get anything out of it.

Soup's 312 and 313 + Kantrip explaining his vote on fandango made me like Kantrip slot. I disliked him because his fandango push was really weird, but in the end, regardless of how I felt about it, the fact that it was so early in the game and that people were justifying his reaching with that fact made it impossible to push further.

I'll see what I can do about a re-read. I really need to do one since I'm essentially town reading everyone except J (who is someone I just can't read. -shrug-) and NH (who is someone I'm going to be scum reading for the whole game because I generally always scum read Marshy's slot).

V/LA this weekend and V/LA next Tuesday-Sunday

 

[Kantrip]

Vote: Badwolf

Starting to feel good about Ryu, elaboration when I'm not hammered. BW getting rocked is a pleasant deadline move, good job whoever got it moving,,

this post gives me strange vibes knowing that bwolf flipped scum

 

[Kantrip]

What do you think of day 2 overall? I want your current thoughts for a lynch.

i dont know much of what happened d2 to be honest

there was a push for you i disagreed with

and badwolf being generally scummy

cant remember any strong feelings for anything else. anything in particular you hoped i'd comment on?

 

[Kantrip]

That ain't a weird kill Circus ALWAYS dies when he's VT, plus your case wasn't really something that mafia would look at n say "wow we should leave em alone in case people wanna attack em."

Hey J you have some 'splainin to do.



Yea you're probz town at this point. Being wrong about Circus certainly helps the read as well.

yeah i think the circus kill is hillarious

ruy makes a case on someone, scum kills them

they know ruy's power

 

[Kantrip]

This is a good point.

I need to review the timing of J's posts around the Badwolf lynch. The defense looks bad, but I don't want to totally jump to conclusions on it without carefully looking at it.

i look forward to your reread, your ISO of J, and your answers to the questions i asked you a long time ago

 

[Kantrip]

EBWOP: its d3 now. I expect you to start playing, raz

 

[Kantrip]

#782 from joey seems genuine, but he needs to keep true to his promises of content or I don't want him anywhere near endgame

i still disagree on j's disliking him for flip-flopping his read on me. I continue to see that as a very townie move as he had no reason to do it as scum and anyone who was faking reads or content wouldn't do something like that unless it was a conscious decision. I highly doubt joey made a conscious decision to flip-flop his read on me so early in the game just for fun. it was genuine rethinking in my books and i dont see that changing

ruy still town

@J: could you go into why you like Raz exactly?

no hetero bugs me, in part because I dont remember them doing anything and in part because of what they said in response to the badwolf lynch after it happened. a third part goes to the huge amount of time they invested in hating on frito and then the 180 at deadline. really need to hear what brought that about.

i cant remember having any feelings towards gorf, i'll keep an eye out and try to form some

fanny is still surface level okay, his play is great and is advancing the game. i'd look at him again if PoE called for it but im fine with him alive at the moment

feeling pretty null towards j

philosophers are town

 

[Kantrip]

Vote: No Hetero

i think this is the avenue i'd like to explore

 

[Kantrip]

EBWOP: if you know what i mean

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

i dont know much of what happened d2 to be honest

there was a push for you i disagreed with

and badwolf being generally scummy

cant remember any strong feelings for anything else. anything in particular you hoped i'd comment on?

J's play and No Hetero's for a start.

How they pushed me and how J approached the badwolf situation.

 

[No Hetero]

Not feeling it after another day on the farm but a couple quick hits.

We have Ryu down as town now, for me on play but for Marsh by the Circus kill which he thinks doesn't make sense from Ryu. I think Ryu responded well to what was laid down on three fronts, and while (again) he didn't push Circus or make any push at all, which still irks me, he was at least vocal and consistent about the read despite it being called trash across the board.

I'm very interested in J, in what Ryu's going to say about him, and what Fand is going to think of J's post. I have something valuable to say after that.

Marshy is really eager to **** all over his next scumread so I'll let him drop that bomb.

 

[No Hetero]

That should say "what Raz is going to say about him". Guess I'm still seeing red.

 

[Kantrip]

Not feeling it after another day on the farm but a couple quick hits.

We have Ryu down as town now, for me on play but for Marsh by the Circus kill which he thinks doesn't make sense from Ryu. I think Ryu responded well to what was laid down on three fronts, and while (again) he didn't push Circus or make any push at all, which still irks me, he was at least vocal and consistent about the read despite it being called trash across the board.

I'm very interested in J, in what Ryu's going to say about him, and what Fand is going to think of J's post. I have something valuable to say after that.

Marshy is really eager to **** all over his next scumread so I'll let him drop that bomb.

you, nabe, were the one making cases and **** on ruy

and you stressed your scumread on him

what about his play caused the 180?

specifically

 

[Kantrip]

@J
@ Raziek
@ #HBC | Red Ryu

You all liked my post so I'm going to assume you agree with it

If you're not voting NH already, you better do so if they don't provide a sufficient answer

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@J
@ Raziek
@ #HBC | Red Ryu

You all liked my post so I'm going to assume you agree with it

If you're not voting NH already, you better do so if they don't provide a sufficient answer

I wanna finish my reread first.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So I am the biggest ****ing liar in the world, I ain't gonna read back right now I'm tired as fuhh

 

[#HBC | J]

I have already stated that I am okay with NH wagon but for now Joey is where my vote belongs.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I have already stated that I am okay with NH wagon but for now Joey is where my vote belongs.

Talk to me about Joey.

I am sick of people telling me I am **** at reading people. But here, what do you see here with Joey, I have a hard time seeing how far out he went to defend me as being scum driven.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Everyone

Why is it Gorf is ok right now? I get why he condemn'd Soup for Bardull's play but him pushing it even though he flipped town needs to be looked at along with how he tried to push me d2.

I really don't think right now, I get Ruy is **** at reading people, that he is a ignore slot right now. Pawn and Badwolf died from outside influence, why is he ok to leave around?