Queen of the Underworld: Vote for Medusa's Homecoming Party!

[Welshy91]

Ekans

Thanks

 

[majora_787]

Actually, Amazon Pandora with her mirrors could be an interesting AT. Then with Medusa playable, the underworld army can take over Smash Bros. ... Okay well not take it over, but still.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I wonder when someone would be the new owner of this page so that we can all see a newer and more high quality moveset than the current one.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I wonder when someone would be the new owner of this page so that we can all see a newer and more high quality moveset than the current one.

Well, again, I'd be glad to try doing a good opening post (if no else volunteers). JUST, I'll be away for 3 weeks, so I'll be able to do this after the 12th of April only :/

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Well, again, I'd be glad to try doing a good opening post (if no else volunteers). JUST, I'll be away for 3 weeks, so I'll be able to do this after the 12th of April only :/

Yeah, college can be a pain in the ass for any one on Smashboards. Unless it's a vacation.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Yeah, college can be a pain in the *** for any one on Smashboards. Unless it's a vacation.

A 3 weeks trip with friends to Japan won't be a pain

I'll ask Sakurai to add Medusa

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I'll ask Sakurai to add Medusa

You deserve it, you smug snake. Have fun!

 

[Reader]

I think her final smash should be "Stone gaze" or something like that. In ancient Greek mythology, Medusa did have the power to turn humans into stone.

When Medusa uses her final smash, she will turn every enemy that looks at her into stone. The ability will be active about 15 seconds. Turned enemies will also take small amount of damage and are unable to move for five seconds. If the enemy is in the air, s/he will fall down. This means that Medusa will be the best edge guarder in the game during her final smash. Medusa will also receive a slight speed boost and slight attack boost for her smash attacks.

I know that Medusa doesn't use this power in games, but finals smashes doesn't have to be inspired from games. And also http://www.kidicaruswiki.org/Medusa_Head

 

[majora_787]

I think her final smash should be "Stone gaze" or something like that. In ancient Greek mythology, Medusa did have the power to turn humans into stone.

When Medusa uses her final smash, she will turn every enemy that looks at her into stone. The ability will be active about 15 seconds. Turned enemies will also take small amount of damage and are unable to move for five seconds. If the enemy is in the air, s/he will fall down. This means that Medusa will be the best edge guarder in the game during her final smash. Medusa will also receive a slight speed boost and slight attack boost for her smash attacks.

I know that Medusa doesn't use this power in games, but finals smashes doesn't have to be inspired from games. And also http://www.kidicaruswiki.org/Medusa_Head

Medusa does use this power in Medusa's Revenge, though. So there is that. I am pretty sure had her fight in Uprising not been an air battle, she would have used it then too. But I think her final smash would PROBABLY be something more akin to the dismembered Monster-dusa head, and the petrifying gaze would probably be a special move.

Then she could possbly use petrified enemies as projectiles with some sort of side special or something, I'm not sure. Possibly working with her neutral special to petrify enemies and items and making them into stone projectiles, and then obliterating them while they can't get closer. Or something. I don't know, I'm not a moveset genius. Closest I ever got to this was a moveset for the Tempura Wizard.

EDIT: I know this is a Medusa thread, but I'll just put this here for anyone who thinks I was joking.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

That Tempura Wizard moveset really is.... something!
Speaking of which should Medusa's other costumes be based on other enemies like Tempura and Eggplant Wizard?

 

[majora_787]

That Tempura Wizard moveset really is.... something!
Speaking of which should Medusa's other costumes be based on other enemies like Tempura and Eggplant Wizard?

Like color schemes? That'd be interesting. An Eggplant Wizard-y color scheme could be used for blue team, the "classic" green and white color scheme could be used for blue team, and... Tempura Wizard isn't really red, more like black/yellow/blue. But yeah it'd be interesting to do alternate colors that way.

EDIT: Unless you actually meant alternate costumes in which case nevermind. People use them interchangeably so often nowadays I can never tell.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Like color schemes? That'd be interesting. An Eggplant Wizard-y color scheme could be used for blue team, the "classic" green and white color scheme could be used for blue team, and... Tempura Wizard isn't really red, more like black/yellow/blue. But yeah it'd be interesting to do alternate colors that way.

EDIT: Unless you actually meant alternate costumes in which case nevermind. People use them interchangeably so often nowadays I can never tell.

Oh, no I just meant alt colour schemes!

 

[majora_787]

Oh. I thought so. It'd probably be better that way instead of having to deal with Medusa trying to look like a Tempura Wizard or Monomiknose or something. We need to convince everyone we're serious here. As long as THEY think we're serious, that's what matters.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

If we're gonna convince anyone we're serious, we're gonna need to acquire a taste....
for Free-form Jazz..

 

[majora_787]

Needs more cowbell.

But anyway, someone attempted to convince me that Palutena is the better choice for Smash Bros. on the premise of "She's more likeable".

I know it's Gamefaqs, but are sheer broad personal opinions actually being used as legitimate evidence for anything now? Really?

 

[DustyPumpkin]

I dunno about you but sometimes I don't really enjoy Palutena's ...humour, I preferred being with Viridi.
Also the whole one sock thing, that's dumb.

2/10 Needs more Medusa

 

[majora_787]

It's not that I don't like Palutena, but I like villains, especially competent female ones like Medusa or my avatar. And aside from that, Palutena is massively overplayed to the point where she is called the main antagonist of the Chaos Kin arc despite that being factually wrong, the secondary protagonist of the series despite being more akin to the damsel in distress of one game and the most important side character in the series, and the most unique character despite her blatantly having thematic archetypes shared with a few characters we know are already in SSB4.

Like, if you're going to say you think Palutena is more likely, don't completely BS it at the very least. :Y

EDIT: Just got to witness me being 'stupid' and 'not having any valid points' for Medusa. I dunno, I don't think ANY of the points I've given for Medusa had literally zero merit.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

One things for sure is that people are giving more credit to Uprising than the original, when they should be giving equal credit (Myths + Monsters I can understand, since that was a US only, plus I don't recall that one being mentioned in Uprising.)

 

[majora_787]

One things for sure is that people are giving more credit to Uprising than the original, when they should be giving equal credit (Myths + Monsters I can understand, since that was a US only, plus I don't recall that one being mentioned in Uprising.)

The issue with Myths and Monsters is a few things.

1) It's a US-only game in a JP-made international series. That's already shady a little bit.
2) Uprising doesn't acknowledge Myths and Monsters at all. So we don't particularly have to either.
3) Myths and Monsters would make Orcos on the same level of Hades and nobody wants that for a few reasons. :B

We generally only bring up the original in terms of who was important in that game, since in my opinion the most likely choices for a second Kid Icarus character would be people who were in the original AND Uprising and were important in both, which is between Palutena the damsel in distress and Medusa the main antagonist and final boss. Other than that we look more at Uprising since it's obviously the most prominent example of the series now, but the NES resume is obviously taken into account.

And as I've said before, even as far as Uprising goes, people give way more credit to Palutena and take credit away from Medusa just because. I mean it gets to the point where opinions are now facts and insulting people is required somehow.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

EDIT: Just got to witness me being 'stupid' and 'not having any valid points' for Medusa. I dunno, I don't think ANY of the points I've given for Medusa had literally zero merit.

Wat.
You've the best arguments and point for Medusa I've seen.
To put this Ironically, you're actually the one that gives me most HOPE for Medusa.

 

[majora_787]

Wat.
You've the best arguments and point for Medusa I've seen.
To put this Ironically, you're actually the one that gives me most HOPE for Medusa.

Well that's cool to know and I'm glad I could do that.. 0: I mean I wouldn't call Medusa a lock but I think people really understate her chances and it's a lot closer between Palutena and Medusa than people want to really admit. And it all depends on what Sakurai actually wants more. Sheer popularity, or a massively unique character thematically speaking.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Agree with first part.
On the second part, what I mean is that some don't acknowledge it at all. Period. Like, Medusa role in the original? "Bah, who cares, her role in Uprising is tiny!" (Which is a lie) Plenty of people acknowledge it's importance, but others don't. They only bring up Uprising, probably because of "Teh recentness" it has. Ignoring Myths and Monsters? Understandable. Ignoring the original for it's character roles? Umm no. Of course Uprising would affect character designs, move sets, all that glorious crap and KI wouldn't. But with character importance, you should count both.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, only thing making Palutena any more likely than Medusa is the popularity. Nothing else really.

 

[majora_787]

Agree with first part.
On the second part, what I mean is that some don't acknowledge it at all. Period. Like, Medusa role in the original? "Bah, who cares, her role in Uprising is tiny!" (Which is a lie) Plenty of people acknowledge it's importance, but others don't. They only bring up Uprising, probably because of "Teh recentness" it has. Ignoring Myths and Monsters? Understandable. Ignoring the original for it's character roles? Umm no. Of course Uprising would affect character designs, move sets, all that glorious crap and KI wouldn't. But with character importance, you should count both.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, only thing making Palutena any more likely than Medusa is the popularity. Nothing else really.

Oh I know. People have simplified Medusa's role in the original to the point where the QUALITY of her boss fight by today's standards somehow indicates whether she was really the final boss or antagonist. "What was she in the original? Just some wall with no personality."

And yeah the only thing Palutena has that is BETTER than Medusa as opposed to equal or worse is popularity. And I could easily see Sakurai forsaking that for a unique character that surprises everyone. But who knows.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Well that's cool to know and I'm glad I could do that.. 0: I mean I wouldn't call Medusa a lock but I think people really understate her chances and it's a lot closer between Palutena and Medusa than people want to really admit. And it all depends on what Sakurai actually wants more. Sheer popularity, or a massively unique character thematically speaking.

THIS. Every Hades supporter needs to get a load of this before they make false assumptions of Medusa being too minor in Uprising and that "their god" has a better chance than her.

 

[Arcadenik]

I would like Medusa's stone gaze to be a special move whereas her giant floating head form is the Final Smash.

 

[majora_787]

I would like Medusa's stone gaze to be a special move whereas her giant floating head form is the Final Smash.

Yeah turning people to stone is the kind of status-effect thing that would be a special move. And besides, Bowser and Ganondorf both use bigger nastier villain forms themselves for final smashes. Medusa may as well.

Also it's not even so much supporters of a particular anything. A lot of people in general understate Medusa's chances. Though people who support Hades over Medusa confuse me a little, and I have to wonder if they expect Ganondorf to be cut for Demise.

EDIT: People who say "Uprising makes Medusa look lame" as some form of evidence, when Medusa punched Hades' head off and Dyntos literally makes EVERYONE look lame. I swear people are silly.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

SIDE BOOB!!

 

[majora_787]

Is that how we're reviving the thread now?

Man. I wish I could draw, I'd turn this into a misguided Medusa art thread until the reveal of Medusa's position in SSB4. (Since let's be real playable or no Medusa is going to be in this game somehow, and not as Pit's final smash.)

 

[Depressed Gengar]

SIDE BOOB!!

All hail the side boob.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

All hail the gothic snake hair .

Fixed.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

All Hail Snakes with Tiny Hats

 

[majora_787]

If none of Medusa's snakes have silly hats at any point in the entirety of both versions of the game I'll be disappointed.

Also, found real people who think the Eggplant Wizard is a more likely character. Which I can see after we got a Hammer Bro playable before Bowser and a Moblin playable before Ganondorf, makes sense to me.

 

[bksbestbwoy]

In a perfect world, we'd get Palutena and Medusa as playable newcomers. As much as I'd be happier with either (and Palu moreso than Medusa if we really have to pick one), it just wouldn't feel right having one without the other, especially given how much the two could do.

Also, Smash needs more Cree Summers. Mmm, Cree Summers' voice.

 

[majora_787]

In a perfect world, we'd get Palutena and Medusa as playable newcomers. As much as I'd be happier with either (and Palu moreso than Medusa if we really have to pick one), it just wouldn't feel right having one without the other, especially given how much the two could do.

Also, Smash needs more Cree Summers. Mmm, Cree Summers' voice.

Yeah I've gone over this once or twice about how Palutena and Medusa affect the "crossover" aspect of the roster. Medusa may be better for it if we had to pick one character, but both Medusa AND Palutena would just be the best idea.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

In a perfect world, we'd get Palutena and Medusa as playable newcomers. As much as I'd be happier with either (and Palu moreso than Medusa if we really have to pick one), it just wouldn't feel right having one without the other, especially given how much the two could do.

Also, Smash needs more Cree Summers. Mmm, Cree Summers' voice.

This is another reason why I want her in Smash. I loved her role as Numbuh 5 and Foxxy Love. XD

 

[IsmaR]

If none of Medusa's snakes have silly hats at any point in the entirety of both versions of the game I'll be disappointed.

When she picks up a Bunny Hood, all the individual snakes get tiny little bunny ears.

Also, found real people who think the Eggplant Wizard is a more likely character. Which I can see after we got a Hammer Bro playable before Bowser and a Moblin playable before Ganondorf, makes sense to me.

I would have said this was more true in Brawl's speculation period, back when Medusa was giant eyeball forme more than half the time.

 

[majora_787]

When she picks up a Bunny Hood, all the individual snakes get tiny little bunny ears.



I would have said this was more true in Brawl's speculation period, back when Medusa was giant eyeball forme more than half the time.

That's beautiful.

Yeah, since before Uprising Medusa was more or less a giant wall with a giant eye. That's not exactly a form that is great for Smash Bros. Though we got about as much of Medusa's "human" form as we got Palutena's in the NES game. Which isn't much at all. No wonder they got redesigned. But NOW, Medusa is actually Smash-able, and so is Palutena. But the Eggplant Wizard would make a good assist trophy at this stage.

 

[IsmaR]

But NOW, Medusa is actually Smash-able, and so is Palutena.

This statement works on so many levels that it hurts.

But the Eggplant Wizard would make a good assist trophy at this stage.

Agreed

 

[majora_787]

You know, I like how the Medusa threat has gone from one page to nine pages since November. Gotta love a revived support thread.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

You know, I like how the Medusa threat has gone from one page to nine pages since November. Gotta love a revived support thread.

I'm so glad I joined when I did, her thread was like... on the 3rd Page maybe