Queen of the Underworld: Medusa's Secret Hideout

Favourite commander of Medusa's army?

  • Twinbellows

  • Dark Lord Gaul

  • Hewdraw

  • Pandora

  • Thanatos


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Sunny-Zee

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It’s awfully lonely here, with just the two of us just pushing the thread along (although I am looking forward to your next update mon ami). What else do we talk about other than draft up designs and plans for a Smash!Medusa mod... oh, I know, the Sonic The Hedgehog movie trailer dropped recently, plus there are movies like Avengers Endgame and SHAZAM! out at the moment, with Detective Pikachu and the new Godzilla movie book ending May. What are your thoughts on each? Are there anything else you’re enjoying or looking forward to?
I’m trying to get a proper conversation going here...
 

Klaymoor

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Perfect timing!
Here's this week's update! https://www.deviantart.com/klaymoor/art/Medusa-Smash-Bros-Design-WIP-1-5-2019-796014980
I've been working on the scales, trying to find the sweetspot between realism and anime-ish style, it's been rough. I've got a commissino coming so this'll be even slower, sorry! xDu

I saw the Sonic trailer yesterday morning, wasn't pretty, so I went to see End Game afterwards to wash my eyes. xD Good stuff, although there's a couple of details that bothered me, I'm not gonna talk about them so I don't spoil anything for anyone. I wanna go see Shazam, looks like DC is finally having fun with their super hero movies.
I'm not particularly interested in Detective Pikachu or Godzilla. DP doesn't look appealing to me and I don't think Hollywood understands what makes Godzilla movies enjoyable.
 

Sunny-Zee

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It is coming along very nicely, I can't wait for the next update.
Sonic... not exactly doing video game movies any favors with its stylings, music choice ("Gangster's Paradise" was used for this and NOT JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind? At least we got "Modern Crusaders" out of it), and what not. It certainly makes Detective Pikachu look more promising in comparison, it had been since November (I still tear up when I think of the Louis Armstrong trailer). As for Godzilla, the anime trilogy didn't exactly understand what made the classic films and their kaiju enjoyable either (I am NOT touching anything written by the Urobutcher, thank you very much).
i've been meaning to see Endgame, I've been hearing good things about it. And yes, you should get around to seeing SHAZAM! Take it from someone who enjoyed the previous DC Universe films, it is an absolute delight even if you haven’t been fond of the previous films.
 
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Klaymoor

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Oh, I totally forgot about the anime Godzilla movies, I haven't seen the last one. I really didn't like the first 2, Godzilla seems more like an afterthought, you can take it out of those movies and NOTHING changes.
 

Laniv

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Perfect timing!
Here's this week's update! https://www.deviantart.com/klaymoor/art/Medusa-Smash-Bros-Design-WIP-1-5-2019-796014980
I've been working on the scales, trying to find the sweetspot between realism and anime-ish style, it's been rough. I've got a commissino coming so this'll be even slower, sorry! xDu

I saw the Sonic trailer yesterday morning, wasn't pretty, so I went to see End Game afterwards to wash my eyes. xD Good stuff, although there's a couple of details that bothered me, I'm not gonna talk about them so I don't spoil anything for anyone. I wanna go see Shazam, looks like DC is finally having fun with their super hero movies.
I'm not particularly interested in Detective Pikachu or Godzilla. DP doesn't look appealing to me and I don't think Hollywood understands what makes Godzilla movies enjoyable.
Nice job! Man, seeing this reminds me that I should probably redraw that old Medusa pic I've got lying around...
 

HYRULESHERO42

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I noticed the thread about Zelda one-offs has made a comeback and it got me thinking. Who are the “Big 3” of Kid Icarus?

I’d have to say they are Pit, Palutena, and Medusa. Could an argument be made against that? The protagonist, the damsel in distress (for lack of a better term at the moment), and the villain. They mirror Link, Zelda, and Ganon pretty spot on. That sorta makes Medusa’s inclusion in Smash an eventual inevitability in a sense wouldn’t it?
 
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Klaymoor

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You'd think, right? At this point IDK anymore, half of the roster decisions don't make sense to me. Plus she isn't particularly popular, so there's that to keep in mind (although Palutena wasn't that popular until she was announced for Smash 4). I'm just gonna say that I'm glad Medusa's existence is finally being recognized by more people.
 
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Perfect timing!
Here's this week's update! https://www.deviantart.com/klaymoor/art/Medusa-Smash-Bros-Design-WIP-1-5-2019-796014980
I've been working on the scales, trying to find the sweetspot between realism and anime-ish style, it's been rough. I've got a commissino coming so this'll be even slower, sorry! xDu

I saw the Sonic trailer yesterday morning, wasn't pretty, so I went to see End Game afterwards to wash my eyes. xD Good stuff, although there's a couple of details that bothered me, I'm not gonna talk about them so I don't spoil anything for anyone. I wanna go see Shazam, looks like DC is finally having fun with their super hero movies.
I'm not particularly interested in Detective Pikachu or Godzilla. DP doesn't look appealing to me and I don't think Hollywood understands what makes Godzilla movies enjoyable.
ooooh progress :DDD
 
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Hi!

I'm sorry for not being active lately on Smashboards, I was kinda busy, and when you dare miss one notification you really can easily think "well, the thread isn't active".

I'll make it short but K Klaymoor I've just seen your latest WIP and I love it!
Laniv Laniv somehow I have a liking for the older version. I don't really know why, probably the expression with the eyebrows.
 

Klaymoor

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Agh! Sorry I'm late for the weekly update, had a rough week and could barely do anything. e.e
Works for the best, though, I've been considering moving the updates to fridays anyway XD
https://www.deviantart.com/klaymoor/art/Medusa-Smash-Bros-Design-WIP-10-5-2019-797171424
Snakes and hair mostly, but I also fixed her head after watching some digital art tips and realizing it just wasn't right. (I also learned how to do the whole 'no lines' thing and I got it ALL WRONG, I'm literally doing everything in reverse xD)
Laniv! I love those Medusas! But I have to agree with Erotic&Heretic, while I do see overall improvement in the newer one, the expression on the old one just has "something". :p
 

Sunny-Zee

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Looking good as always, Klaymoor. I don’t think I need to say a lot more, other than I can’t wait for the snakes to be done.
Laniv, that is an excellent example of improvement from consistent practice. Keep at it, you’ll make it far.

EDIT: Hey guys! The Models Resource had just added the Medusa idol model to their Kid Icarus Uprising collection. It’s probably gonna need some fixing (namely in the textures and her staff, probably take them from her Smash 4 trophy for that), but this is very neat to see.
 
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Klaymoor

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Oh my, oh my, let's take a look at that! <3

EDIT: OK, apparently I really need Autodesk to run that extension, 'cause she's missing a lot of parts when I open that file with other programs.
 
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Sunny-Zee

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Ed-boy

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For a while now, it's seemed to me that people didn't care for Medusa in Uprising as much as the ensemble of newbies like Hades & Viridi because she didn't have that many comical/interesting traits compared to them. So with that I ask y'all, what would you retool or add on to Medusa in a hypothetical new KI for the audience to gravitate to her more?

Perhaps she could play as an unorthodox straight woman to the more outlandish jokes of the rest of the cast?

Maybe you could introduce more exaggerated traits & imply a vaguely "sisterly" rivalry with Palutena, with her acting as a cynical foil to the goddess of light for comedic effect (think Daffy Duck & Bugs Bunny), and potentially more in-depth disputes about the time she was transformed by Palu pre-Kid Icarus.

Or she could be a cold, vengeful bad*** bent on sabotaging any attempted plot by Hades.

Or maybe she's just fine as is? What does anybody else think? (I'm partial to the second option I described, not to toot my own horn...)
 
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Sunny-Zee

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As far as I can tell, she already is something of a “straight (wo)man” to the rest of the characters, by virtue of being one of the few characters who takes themselves somewhat seriously, and it’s a real shame Uprising never really capitalized on it. I would enjoy seeing her have a more fleshed out backstory (namely, one that tries to reconcile the mythological Medusa origin with what Kid Icarus lore gave us back in the pages of the NES instruction manual) and more character interactions in general.
That Medusa/Hades dynamic, however, does remind me of Overly Sarcastic Productions and their video on “Pure Evil” villains and the ways to write one, and one of those ways is to have a complex villainous foil to contrast them. Naturally, Hades and Medusa fit those respective characterizations and characteristics to a strong degree (in concept, anyway), and they should capitalize on that if they ever give us a new Kid Icarus game one of these days/years, whatever comes first.
(On another note, I recommend Overly Sarcastic Productions to those who enjoy literature and history, want to learn about the former without the mountains of paperwork or complex dialects/terminology, learn writing techniques to improve your stories, or if you just enjoy neat stories told with simple but appealing drawings. They are an absolute treasure to watch.)
 
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Weekly update! I'm almost done! https://www.deviantart.com/klaymoor/art/Medusa-Smash-Bros-Design-WIP-17-5-2019-798034292
I uploaded this a little earlier because I want to share my 2 cents about this topic!
Like Sunny-Zee, I see Medusa as a "straight woman" for everyone else's silliness (that's why I gave my cartoon Medusa that permanent expression on her face, she's SO done with everyone's crap), and maybe that didn't suit well with people? IDK, it works for me.
Personally, I love the way she is now and wouldn't change anything about her, if anything they could go a little further like Ed-boy said. What I think she seriously needed in KIU is more screentime, backstory and possibly a better motivation for her actions (both the animated short and the manga failed miserably at that), we barely see her and she just comes out as a simple "I'm evil" villain. Also I didn't feel the relationship between Palutena and Medusa, they didn't talk to each other as former co-rulers of Angel Land, y'know?
BTW, can I mention the total BS that's Viridi's redemption? Medusa kills humans: Oh, no, she's evil and she must be destroyed! Viridi kills humans: Let's be friends! That's some serious bias. I have some theories on why other characters are popular, but I think I couldn't explain them without being mean to their respective fans. xDu
 
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Hi!

Nice progress on the art, K Klaymoor ! I also really love the fanarts by s0bk, it's cute.

Regarding Medusa in a potential KI:U sequel, I'd like her to be more of a anti-hero this time. Working toward a similar goal as the heroes, while not being really an ally. For example, she could try to reclaim her throne in the underworld. It could be a way to have her interact more, because that's what she lacks mostly: screentime and dialogue lines. The personality doesn't have to change: there can be humour exactly because she is serious.
 
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