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Shell

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Shanus is indeed leading this project. We would love to get feedback from everyone upon release, including the Japanese. Thank you, Bero.
 

NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT

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Ganon having an U-tilt with an Usmash seems kinda good but, could make him have more options, also making he's game more Strenghened

even making Usmash (melee's) and Utilt (Brawl's Usmash, with Utilt based power [nerf]) would make ganon be better than he's melee like

and he doesn't use Utilt in melee yes, not even warlock punch (on jiggs when missing a rest duh XD)

anyways... I'll study the characters that had changes once beta sections comes around and if they are broken (the changes) I'll just abuse them until they are taken out/nerf/balanced/rechanged

XD

Pikachu's Bair having a strong hit!!! (only one hitbox)

Jiggly's melee Fsmash (and I'm talking about her awsome speed)

and... lol idk what else to suggest XD

I know forgotten 5... (this topic has been posted like 50ish times by now :p
 

ETWIST51294

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Pikachu's uair

Yoshi's dsmash

Falcon's uthrow and gentleman

Luigi's dair and fair

DK's up-b

Samus' fsmash and dsmash

Link's up-b

IC's smashes

Bowser's up-b


Hzve these been changed?
 

cubaisdeath

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why do people want to change ganons utilt? thats the most satisfying thing to land on someone. Haven't you guys ever done team combos into it?
 

God of Humility

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Are you guys planning to return YLink, Pichu, Mewtwo, Roy or Doc? Maybe you should add them as alternate pac for the base character.
 

diosensakiara

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How many times do i have to say it
USE MY D.E.L.T.A ENGINE.
Then if you press d-pad you get your techniques changed! XD
 

Rikana

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Gonna revive a dead argument. Please do not make such a big discussion out of it. Anyways, its regarding reverse ledge grabs.

I finally figured out a good reason to take it out. Falcon, in Melee, can dash attack on the ledge and carry his momentum off the stage as his dash attack animation ends. After that you quickly tap back so you DI towards the wall and quickly tap the opposite direction for an instant wall jump out of dash attack. Reverse ledge grabbing would block this option. So I guess reverse ledge grab should be taken out (maybe left in for the peak of upBs).

I don't think this was mentioned before.. at least I don't wanna go through 100 pages just to find out.

Just sayin'.

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Are you guys planning to return YLink, Pichu, Mewtwo, Roy or Doc? Maybe you should add them as alternate pac for the base character.
From my assumption, I don't think they would. Not that adding them is a bad thing, but it doesn't really look official, you know? Like.. it involves much more than just the clone engine to make let them have the slightest chance of making it in - character portraits, sound effects, model imports (I doubt people would want to play a Pichu that looks just like Pikachu except its smaller in scale or even have a Mewtwo with a Lucario model). It has to look like the real thing before its official.
 

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I hate reverse ledge grabs >_>

They're some recoveries that should grab from behind(Falcon Fox Lucario Ike Diddy and Wario imo) and some that shouldn't (Marth Mario Pikachu ROB Squirtle and Sonic imo).

Can you please say that Lucario can't attack ot of his up-b like in Brawl+, it's impossible to edgeguard.
 

5ive

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I hate reverse ledge grabs >_>

They're some recoveries that should grab from behind(Falcon Fox Lucario Ike Diddy and Wario imo) and some that shouldn't (Marth Mario Pikachu ROB Squirtle and Sonic imo).

Can you please say that Lucario can't attack ot of his up-b like in Brawl+, it's impossible to edgeguard.
Just putting it out there that Pikachu's Up B doesn't reverse ledge grab in Brawl+.
 

DarkDragoon

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Can you please say that Lucario can't attack ot of his up-b like in Brawl+, it's impossible to edgeguard.
o_O I never go to the ledge. You don't autosnap as Lucario, just bounce and die.
-DD
 

ETWIST51294

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o_O I never go to the ledge. You don't autosnap as Lucario, just bounce and die.
-DD
I know, you recover high, and then you can still attack which hard to edgeguard. idk You know more about Lucario than I do. I'm not Bero BTW lol.
Just putting it out there that Pikachu's Up B doesn't reverse ledge grab in Brawl+.
Didn't know that. I haven't been able to play Brawl+ since my wii broke. =(
 

cubaisdeath

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Are you guys planning to return YLink, Pichu, Mewtwo, Roy or Doc? Maybe you should add them as alternate pac for the base character.
^When the clone engine.
well, since you can add additional character portraits to the CSS, you should be able to additional playable characters right? its just all in the matter of giving them a character ID.

then again, this is just my theory, I actually have no clue what to do as far as hacking goes lol.

but Doc better be a character eventually. he is so much more fun than regular mario in Melee
 

humble

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well, since you can add additional character portraits to the CSS, you should be able to additional playable characters right? its just all in the matter of giving them a character ID.

then again, this is just my theory, I actually have no clue what to do as far as hacking goes lol.

but Doc better be a character eventually. he is so much more fun than regular mario in Melee
No, it isn't that simple.
 

cubaisdeath

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I figured as much lol. like I said, I have no hacking experience. I just know how to apply them to my game once everyone else has completed them
 

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What's the POINT in giving Falco his Melee Nair and Utilt? *sigh* I'm starting to understand why SRK hates this entire project so much.
1st- The idea here is to make characters as close to possible as to how they were in Melee. If it means making Falco closer to Fox again, then so be it, because Falco was enjoyable in Melee the way he was. If you don't like it, then why bother commenting?

2nd- The SRK thinks anything Smashers do that has nothing to do with items is terrible. And, why should any of us care what the SRK think about this anyway?
 

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1st- The idea here is to make characters as close to possible as to how they were in Melee. If it means making Falco closer to Fox again, then so be it, because Falco was enjoyable in Melee the way he was. If you don't like it, then why bother commenting?

2nd- The SRK thinks anything Smashers do that has nothing to do with items is terrible. And, why should any of us care what the SRK think about this anyway?
Okay, the SRK part is true, I suppose.

So the point of this game IS to make Melee 2.0. I supposed there isn't much thats too bad with that but my stance was why bother making Falco a Fox clone again?
 

ETWIST51294

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Because Falco was way more fun to play as in Melee. His utilt, nair, and shine were overall better.

And I'm pretty sure SRK doesn't even know about this project. I hasn't hit that big. Has it?
 

shanus

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Okay, the SRK part is true, I suppose.

So the point of this game IS to make Melee 2.0. I supposed there isn't much thats too bad with that but my stance was why bother making Falco a Fox clone again?
This project was started a sa project of self-enjoyment. I was a falco main in melee and wanted to see if I could program in all of these features. This entire project first started off with me building a melee version of falco and started from there..

A lot of the changes in here are for technical gameplay or return of nostalgia. Is there a real reason to bring back moonwalking? No there isn't, but there is a certain appreciation for it in which people enjoy the idea of having it back. This is the mindset we take here. We don't need to justify a changes to old mechanics because simply put, that is what this project is aiming to achieve.
 

NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT

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How many times do i have to say it
USE MY D.E.L.T.A ENGINE.
Then if you press d-pad you get your techniques changed! XD
What is that D.E.L.T.A ENGINE you are talking about ???

can roy fight marth with it? or roy fight ragna?

hmmmm if it is... send me a link so I can start reading

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I doubt people would want to play a Pichu that looks just like Pikachu except its smaller in scale or even have a Mewtwo with a Lucario model). It has to look like the real thing before its official.
the mewtwo in the progress looks odd



but it's something

and the pichu looks perfectly, not like pikachu >.>



anyways, people would just use pichu cause he's fun and hard to play with and he takes damage ;) he is a high risk character and again, fun ^^

even if he looks pikachu or like pichu many would use him ;)
 

BG3

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okay, does that mean pikachu and kirby are gonna be **** again?

/sarcasm



I get it. Nostalgia.
I really hope that these two are trash characters again, or at least worse than what they are now. I hate both of them so much in vBrawl.
 

superyoshi888

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You're just mad cause Kirby *****. Why do you think he can suck so much?

And Pichu is awesome. Just going to point out while BigShark's bone edited Mewtwo is closer in body proportions than the vertex-hacked Mewtwo, it doesn't look as nice because of the texture.
 

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there's no reason to make characters "trash" again. Pikachu wasn't trash, Kirby probably was, but i think there will be something close to balance in the final product of P:M, since balance was the only thing Melee lacked.
 

NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT

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did people saw the mewtwo model hack and pichu model hack on lucario and pikachu???

that must be a reason to keep in mind that the forgotten 5 should join after the project is done
 

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What's the POINT in giving Falco his Melee Nair and Utilt? *sigh* I'm starting to understand why SRK hates this entire project so much.
I have NEVER seen SRK talk about this game. The only post I can find on SRK about Project M is when the trailers was posted... by me. So far there hasn't been discussion about it on the boards.
 

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how r yall going to change links hook shot or bomb jump since its cant be possible to have it. hope the recovery isnt like vbrawl
 

ItachiFire2

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there's no reason to make characters "trash" again. Pikachu wasn't trash, Kirby probably was, but i think there will be something close to balance in the final product of P:M, since balance was the only thing Melee lacked.
Melee wasn't so unbalanced. It allowed characters that most people did not fight against very often to have a better chance against the high tiers since they didn't know the matchup.
 

Rikana

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the mewtwo in the progress looks odd

IMAGE OF MEWTWO

but it's something

and the pichu looks perfectly, not like pikachu >.>

IMAGE OF PICHU AND DR. MARIO

anyways, people would just use pichu cause he's fun and hard to play with and he takes damage ;) he is a high risk character and again, fun ^^

even if he looks pikachu or like pichu many would use him ;)
Pichu and Dr. Mario are both just texture hacks. I'm sure that a texture hack isn't sufficient enough for them to make it in. As for the Mewtwo model, its looking decent. It needs a ton of improvements but its getting there. I wouldn't mind them being in if we get them absolutely perfected and make them fit in as if they were never removed.

You're just mad cause Kirby *****. Why do you think he can suck so much?
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
 
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