Project M Social Thread

[ELI-mination]

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines

^Streaming Demo 2 if anybody wants to watch.

 

[leelue]

Why is halberd so amazing with powerful rock music?
I put "let me hear you scream" by ozzie osborne on it and can't help but get HYPE.

Edit: I hear freesaltines is a good spot to watch.

 

[EmptySky00]

Downloading demo 2 now. Nice getting home from school present.

 

[Mccdbz5]

There was a Norfair: M that was made many months ago, but it was an incomplete stage without hazards and such. Basically a WIP, so we have included vBrawl Norfair instead.

Oh okay. Well I definitely look forward to playing the final version then. Are there any other stages that are going to be redesigned to be more competitively playable (A.K.A. less hazardous)? I feel like the Ice Climbers stage would be great if the stage didn't move and your character didn't slide on the ice.

 

[Revven]

Oh okay. Well I definitely look forward to playing the final version then. Are there any other stages that are going to be redesigned to be more competitively playable (A.K.A. less hazardous)? I feel like the Ice Climbers stage would be great if the stage didn't move and your character didn't slide on the ice.

Maybe, we're not at a point where we can specifically say. So for now, just enjoy the stages we have made pretty viable and better.

 

[Comeback Kid]

I have a weird issue I hope someone can help me with. I went into the stage builder like normal today and noticed I somehow received a stage. I can't delete it since it was downloaded, and if I go directly to the sd card it freezes the game. Do I need to delete my save file or is there a work around to this?

 

[Revven]

I have a weird issue I hope someone can help me with. I went into the stage builder like normal today and noticed I somehow received a stage. I can't delete it since it was downloaded, and if I go directly to the sd card it freezes the game. Do I need to delete my save file or is there a work around to this?

Yes, turn off the Smash Service by going into your options on WiFi. Then, change your Wii's clock forward in time, it'll be gone.

 

[trojanpooh]

Why are there so many stage .PAC files? I wanted to use the Lost Wood texture but I don't want to mess anything up by replacing the file that's currently there.

 

[Shadic]

The camera alterations are in the .pac files.

 

[Vanguard]

@trojanpooh
Lost Woods is a collabed texture on brawl vault.
You can expect to see a projectm version of the hack soon.

 

[ManEg]

what's the diff between Full and Wifi-safe?

 

[Revven]

what's the diff between Full and Wifi-safe?

Answered in the original post, please read the FAQ.

 

[Strong Badam]

It's also on our Downloads page....

 

[ManEg]

Sorry guys my bad. I'm making up for it right now, just 7mins. left till completion :D

 

[Couch]

Man you guys have done such an AMAZING job with this demo. I'm ecstatic. I really love how unique and natural all the champs feel, right now I'm debating between exploring Ike, Wario, and Pit as a main. They're all too amazing

 

[BRLNK88]

Love Snake's new fsmash, but still not crazy about Tink's recovery.
Why can't you guys keep the old distance but keep the new move at the same time?
It doesn't just hinder his recovery, it also hinders his gimping ability, you can't drop as low to nair gimp as before, which will be necessary in MUs Tink will have a hard time with (Fox, Falco, Marth, Sheik, etc).

 

[Gimpyfish62]

every character does not get every possible tool

64 tlink recovery and combo finisher REALLY helped balance him out a lot

he went through some seriously broken phases and this helped in so so so so many ways not just to balance but to make him a billion times more fun

 

[Giygacoal]

Quick question: Why does the CPU shield at the same time as the player in training mode?
Also, what's the trick to properly using Ike's ultimate side-B? I'm pressing A, but I can't get it right... Is A even the right button?

 

[BRLNK88]

In what ways was he broken before?
He still got wrecked by Marth, Fox, Falco and Sheik even with his old recovery.
The way you speak you're promising those MUs will be 60:40 at worst, which I highly doubt.
For that to make sense the combo finisher MUST compensate for the lack of recovery and gimping ability.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

it would be really difficult to speak on toon links balance progression up to this point

he required a LOT of balancing, i dont mean from like demo 1 build was too good or brawl build or meleefied toon link was too good

it would really just be unexplainable lol

just trust us

he's tight - we're not completely done balancing everyone on earth though of course haha

 

[Red(SP)]

Quick question: Why does the CPU shield at the same time as the player in training mode?
Also, what's the trick to properly using Ike's ultimate side-B? I'm pressing A, but I can't get it right... Is A even the right button?

Try tapping up with your control stick and try some stuff.

 

[BRLNK88]

It would help if you explained what specifically got balanced by nerfing his recovery?
Offensively he's the same as with his old closed alpha recovery which was identical to Young Link's aside from the combo finisher.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

also toon links recovery is still quite good, bomb jumping with uuhhh whatever the brawl tech is called tossing is buff

also no, no he is not the same offensively

 

[BRLNK88]

Every one of his aerials and smash attacks is identical to what they were back in September, I find him the same offensively.
Like I said, the combo finisher is the only difference.

 

[PEEF!]

Here come the sweeping character judgements day 1.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

toon link is buff LOL thats all i got man

he does not need all his current tools plus a ridiculous stupd fly over the entire stage because i'm a slow ugly brawl character recovery

 

[iLink]

Toon link's upb is fine. At first I thought I would hate it but its really manageable.

The 2 characters I'm having trouble getting used to are Wario and Charizard. Wario mostly because I have to remember he plays totally different from brawl.

Charizard on the other hand, I feel like he has no real valid approach. Getting wrecked by falco and marth while using him.

 

[Renji64]

Im enjoying this demo it is a big difference from demo 1 the speed amazed me it felt really like melee. I wasn't a pro melee player so learning how to wave dash is hard for me and doing advance techs but im gonna learn it is fun. Idk how to use lucario lol but im loving this demo thanks alot.

 

[Strong Badam]

BRLNK88:
if you think TL sucks then show us and we'll probably address it before the next release. there's only so much we can do with internal playtesting; for the most part we feel we've done a good job in balancing the game, but part of the point of this was so the public's playtesting can help us ascertain balance issues. it's a bit absurd that you're finding issues with balance day 1 however, before the character even has a competitive metagame. I suggest that you get more experience using Toon Link and see if your opinion changes.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

rd on the other hand, I feel like he has no real valid approach. Getting wrecked by falco and marth while using him.

Approaching falco is like a universal thing. Use platforms or powershield.
Marth, get him to swing his sword and miss.

If any character gets hit they sort of get comboed.

 

[leelue]

It's too bad that this isn't obvi, strongbad

 

[Xebenkeck]

So just playing the demo while typing this, I dont think the 1-player in vs works.

I get 3..2..1.. then it immediatly says game. I dont care as its the demo, but just so you know the 1p in vs doesnt work.

 

[BRLNK88]

lol, I've been using the new Toon Link (with his even worse recovery) against competitive Melee players since January, I doubt my opinion will change.
But yes, now that its released to the public the extended playtesting will help elucidate things.

 

[MonkUnit]

Quick question: Why does the CPU shield at the same time as the player in training mode?
Also, what's the trick to properly using Ike's ultimate side-B? I'm pressing A, but I can't get it right... Is A even the right button?

1) It's just a thing with the light press code.
2) You have to be /inside/ the opponent and hit A (or B?) AND have the sideB charged up for like 3 seconds so when you travel it does fire damage. It's insanely hard to hit with because the timing is extremely hard, you have to charge it for a long time, etc. It's a OHKO that's worth it if you can pull it off though lol

 

[Strong Badam]

There has not been a public release in over a year, and not one with Toon Link in it, so that's impossible.

 

[BRLNK88]

I have friends that get constant updates of closed alphas (Austin RC is one of them), so I'm just as much in the loop.

 

[Renji64]

Any advice on using Sonic Im liking him alot.

 

[KingClubber]

No Side-B Death Sheik Ai


I'm Working on some Ai stuff, here's the first.

 

[leelue]

Thanks kingclubber

 

[RaphaelRobo]

I'm sure this was answered when Demo1 was released, but why did you guys choose to swap Ganon's <100 ledge attack with his >100 ledge attack?