Project M Social Thread

[curry9186]

Is landing detection the reading that occurs when an attack connects or when someone lands on the ground? I've assumed it's the ground scenario this whole time.

When someone lands on the ground. Basically, in Melee, characters landed on their knees, in Brawl they land on their feet. It makes sense realistically but... it doesn't feel right at all and makes a lot of things either easier or harder to do depending on what it is you're trying to do. Which messes with timings and the overall flow of the game.

There you go hopefully that answers you're question.

 

[GP&B]

To be specific, aerial tactics centered around landing detection suffer a lot (SH Bair waveland with Mario is impossible while SH double Fair with Marth is very difficult) while things like wavelanding/wavedashing are very easy to do perfectly. Platform wavelanding is a bit tougher to do though as most Melee players will be used to the visual cues of the characters' knees for that.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Ditto. Wario's supposed to be some hulking man beast of rage and fart attacks. The way nintendo made him was very disappointing to my eyes but what the devs here have done to him is just perfect.

Edited for emphasis.

 

[Sora-kun]

They made him as a fat *** pedophile *** with an aerial speed fetish.
Seriously.. Why was his air speed so **** high?..

 

[Jay Talbayne]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCrRSGfKm_E&feature=player_profilepage#!

yo... what song is this during this match?

 

[GP&B]

Yeah, I tried asking about a song (different song, same author) on another video and I didn't get a response about it. Sugarhigh has some really cool music and I think some of it is from the same game/album.

 

[Jay Talbayne]

yea it sounds familiar but i'm not sure where i heard it from exactly.. im trying to get into the Custom Soundtrack hack to pass the time until Project Landing detection gets released...

 

[Archangel]

Any streams today?

 

[genkaku]

Yes, they're just not going to tell us.

:D

 

[kirox777]

omg that sounds ****IN AWESOME for wario! =D i cant wait to see exactly what you guys are talking about the "corrected wario".

also is it possible to make toonlink's arrow land more like melee? as in lands in 2ft instead of 15ft. and give his arrows a fire tip!

 

[Grim Tuesday]

omg that sounds FXCKIN AWESOME for wario! =D i cant wait to see exactly what you guys are talking about the "corrected wario".

also is it possible to make toonlink's arrow land more like melee? as in lands in 2ft instead of 15ft. and give his arrows a fire tip!

Why do you want his arrows intentionally nerfed...?
They were useless in Melee.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I played Project M for the second time today. The thing that currently bothers me the most is that it's way too easy to accidentally fsmash in a couple different ways. A lot of the time, I want to dash back, then turn around and dash attack, but I can't do this without fsmashing instead unless I wait a long time after the pivot, which is really inconvenient. I also accidentally fsmashed often when trying to ftilt, although I'm guessing this isn't a huge problem and my lack of familiarity with the game is probably to blame.

There are a few other things that bother me, but since they mostly pertain to a character that has barely been worked on, I won't rant about those.

 

[LiQViD]

I played Project M for the second time today. The thing that currently bothers me the most is that it's way too easy to accidentally fsmash in a couple different ways. A lot of the time, I want to dash back, then turn around and dash attack, but I can't do this without fsmashing instead unless I wait a long time after the pivot, which is really inconvenient. I also accidentally fsmashed often when trying to ftilt, although I'm guessing this isn't a huge problem and my lack of familiarity with the game is probably to blame.

There are a few other things that bother me, but since they mostly pertain to a character that has barely been worked on, I won't rant about those.

Hmm thats actually an interesting problem. I wonder if the "Smash window" is longer in brawl then it was in melee (as in the time between moving the joystick and pressing the A button). Wouldn't that be a problem in Brawl+ though since it also has dash dancing?

 

[Shadic]

I played Project M for the second time today. The thing that currently bothers me the most is that it's way too easy to accidentally fsmash in a couple different ways. A lot of the time, I want to dash back, then turn around and dash attack, but I can't do this without fsmashing instead unless I wait a long time after the pivot, which is really inconvenient. I also accidentally fsmashed often when trying to ftilt, although I'm guessing this isn't a huge problem and my lack of familiarity with the game is probably to blame.

Landing dete.. Actually, we're aware of that and the issue is currently fairly close to being resolved, IIRC. There's six frames after the pivot that will Fsmash, I believe. We figured out how to alter that just a few days ago.

 

[Strong Badam]

yeah we need to do an injection of some sort to fix that. until then, cstick down to dash attack works as usual.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

the project m tourny I hosted today was a success yet also a (personal) disappointment. I'm going to be taking a break from PM for like a few weeks but I'll still upload vids from today.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

So with that, I assume that DDing into an fsmash will go back to how it worked in Melee over the massive distance you could cover before doing it in B+/-?

 

[Sora-kun]

Project Melee.

 

[Eggz]

lol confirm him on smashboards, but a definite yes for this guy. He is amazing.

So I assume I'm supposed to post here or something? I don't know anything about the Project M structure, so I don't know if Fade's word is the law or anything, but I'm posting here anyways cuz I'd like to wrangle a copy to try out.

 

[Stevo]

the project m tourny I hosted today was a success yet also a (personal) disappointment. I'm going to be taking a break from PM for like a few weeks but I'll still upload vids from today.

sorry to hear that

thanks for uploading the vids though!

 

[JCaesar]

So I assume I'm supposed to post here or something? I don't know anything about the Project M structure, so I don't know if Fade's word is the law or anything, but I'm posting here anyways cuz I'd like to wrangle a copy to try out.

We vote on applications in the backroom. We'll contact you after it's decided.

 

[kenshen]

so is toon link heavier in this game then he was in brawl

 

[stRIP]

so is toon link heavier in this game then he was in brawl

landing detection

 

[GP&B]

(If you mean fall speed) Yes, he's the same as Young Link.

 

[kenshen]

ok thx for the answer

 

[Hellsinglover999]

wasnt young link's fast fall in melee horrible

 

[TLMSheikant]

wasnt young link's fast fall in melee horrible

Landing detection XD. But yeah, it was. Some people go as far as to say YL couldnt fast fall in melee. It is THAT bad. The difference between FF'ing and normal falling was very little.

 

[GP&B]

It's just that Toon Link was really floaty and out of place in PM (or that's what I'd assume would be the reason for changing fall speed). I think (or they probably already have) they'll give him better fast falling speed.

 

[Laijin]

Young Link's FF in melee wasn't that bad. He wouldn't be able to n-air juggle floaties without it.

 

[ManEg]

So, been away for a week and dont want to read all those pages, what's new?

Spoiler

Dont answer landing detection...

 

[GP&B]

connor is taking a break from the PM scene for some personal reason which is fine.

Make sure you catch up on JCaesar's videos.
He's got some Toon Link and R.O.B. on display :D

 

[JCaesar]

The ROB stuff was taken down actually. We're overhauling him a bit.

 

[Deleted member]

So I brought my Wii as a set up for Project M with the latest codeset to Tipped Off 6.

Played with Nicaboy and Sneak a bit. PBNJ and Mike G expressed a lot of interest when playing. Overall, the interest for Project M was well received as a lot of notable Melee players from the South stopped by to watch and ask a few questions about the game.

 

[curry9186]

So I brought my Wii as a set up for Project M with the latest codeset to Tipped Off 6.

Played with Nicaboy and Sneak a bit. PBNJ and Mike G expressed a lot of interest when playing. Overall, the interest for Project M was well received as a lot of notable Melee players from the South stopped by to watch and ask a few questions about the game.

So hype is spreading? The more the merrier. I wonder sometimes the exact number of people who know about PM.

 

[Sora-kun]

So hype is spreading? The more the merrier. I wonder sometimes the exact number of people who know about P: M.

Fixed. Don't give him the satisfaction <_<
>_>

Anyway, that's pretty cool.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

PM or P:M are both correct ya know.

 

[Deleted member]

Everybody there I talked to already knew about Project M.

Whether they liked it or not was up for grabs. There's a tendency for people to talk poorly of it and not to have tried it at all. There's a tendency for people to talk poorly of it and not understand the aim of the project at all too.

I did notice that once a person tried it, they thoroughly enjoyed it most of the time. At least (if not more) than 9 out of 10 people trying it liked it.

Complaints were typical. "L-cancelling feels different" "This character is odd and isn't the same" "This move doesn't hit as hard/too hard" I just proceed to explain that the game wasn't complete yet and that there are still problems that are going to be fixed or that characters go through experimental phases where new moves are tried to see what works.

In general, great acceptance of the game, but reluctance to try it.

 

[Sora-kun]

PM or P:M are both correct ya know.

I was referring to how Strong_Bad (i think) said everyone would eventually just say PM because the : from Project: M was removed.

I wasn't serious.

 

[AeonClock]

Everybody there I talked to already knew about Project M.

Whether they liked it or not was up for grabs. There's a tendency for people to talk poorly of it and not to have tried it at all. There's a tendency for people to talk poorly of it and not understand the aim of the project at all too.

I did notice that once a person tried it, they thoroughly enjoyed it most of the time. At least (if not more) than 9 out of 10 people trying it liked it.

Complaints were typical. "L-cancelling feels different" "This character is odd and isn't the same" "This move doesn't hit as hard/too hard" I just proceed to explain that the game wasn't complete yet and that there are still problems that are going to be fixed or that characters go through experimental phases where new moves are tried to see what works.

In general, great acceptance of the game, but reluctance to try it.

I blame the, "LOLOLOLOL Brawl sux!" mentality.

 

[Sora-kun]

I blame Halo.