JCaesar
Smash Hero
Yes I know. There's more to edgeguarding than edgehogging.
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I'm a link main =/ i know this. i'm just saying his standing animation can screw some stuff up. the shield is in a dif position from standing to crouching. The change isn't crucial it's just something that should be changed.
Alright that's good to hear.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
lol yeah it was "******** easy". how good are you at melee
Right now the ledge isn't exactly like Melee, but I like it for the most part.
It makes some Up B's really hard to edgehog like Peach, but it also forces the ledge to be a place with more character interaction.
With a few exceptions you can edgegaurd any recovery still (some you have to wait until over 100% to do it) but it all requires precise timing. It might not be perfectly Melee, but I like that the grabbing the ledge for a gimp requires more timing. And like JCaesar said, drop off the ledge and use an aerial while invincible if you have to.
It makes some Up B's really hard to edgehog like Peach, but it also forces the ledge to be a place with more character interaction.
With a few exceptions you can edgegaurd any recovery still (some you have to wait until over 100% to do it) but it all requires precise timing. It might not be perfectly Melee, but I like that the grabbing the ledge for a gimp requires more timing. And like JCaesar said, drop off the ledge and use an aerial while invincible if you have to.
lol you don't know me. MM me when you get the chance.
You can't tell me that edgehogging isn't easy because of the ledge occupancy being dumb. I much rather have a stricter timing to it.
that's basically what I want it to be like.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
thats nice, someone who wasn't on the melee development team
if ur not gonna buff Sing then might as well turn it into something new and useful like what has been done to Lucas. Look at a list of Pokemon attacks Jiggly can learn in the pokemon games and be creative. after all you guys are doin one heck of a job being with this Project. And i see everyone working hard on every character. This is just my opinions. not a fact. so agree some may not. Use ur creative minds people :D
Revven
FrankerZ
The thing is, Melee Jiggs doesn't need Sing to be useful to be good. She doesn't need a new move, she's good as she is... which is what we're doing, making Jiggs like Melee which includes Sing being entirely useless.
GameWatching
Smash Ace
get him while he's hot D:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11883
and btw,
YS is still being fixed !
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=11883
and btw,
YS is still being fixed !
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
You could ledgestall with it into LH Rest... once in a blue moon.
jalued
Smash Lord
and what a joyous blue moon it was
Archangel
Smash Hero
So let me get this straight. People want Brawl ledge occupancy to stay????? WHAT!!!
If Marth returns to normal it should be a problem for me because of let go->Dair. What about people who don't have a spike or a finishing aerial? Not to mention some characters recovery Moves not only last way beyond your invincibility but they also have greater priority then alot of aerial attacks. Not to mention some people are...invincible during recovery
If Marth returns to normal it should be a problem for me because of let go->Dair. What about people who don't have a spike or a finishing aerial? Not to mention some characters recovery Moves not only last way beyond your invincibility but they also have greater priority then alot of aerial attacks. Not to mention some people are...invincible during recovery
JCaesar
Smash Hero
You get invincibility during immediate ledgehops too, meaning invincible aerials, and since aerials don't clank, you can edgeguard any recovery if you're good enough. (obviously there are exceptions, but my point is, you're blowing it waaaay out of proportion)
FireBall Stars
Smash Ace
Yes, lagless edges from melee allows you to do aerials while invincible.
Even if you hit the aerial and the character DI perfectly and tries to come from above, you have plenty of time to reestructure you Edgeguard and hit with another attack or edgehog if necessary.
Even if you hit the aerial and the character DI perfectly and tries to come from above, you have plenty of time to reestructure you Edgeguard and hit with another attack or edgehog if necessary.
lol ok yeah good point. lol so good u dont even need an up + b recovery.. Yoshi needed it however. i think thats the best thing Sakurai did before u guys changed the entire game lol
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
That's so weird my brother Jade died in a car accident on Thursday.
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genkaku
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Wanna' move someone up a tier? Give them Mewtwo's Nair.
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mewtwo's nair sucks, any Mewtwo main will tell you that, even though it's his best aerial. he's Mewtwo
Gindler
Smash Champion
I think he meant on the Bad***ery tier list.
Same with mewtwo's Fthrow, so beast....looking
Same with mewtwo's Fthrow, so beast....looking
stingers
Smash Obsessed
mewtwo's nair doesn't suck.
/uses mewtwo in tourney
/uses mewtwo in tourney
"Lol" is second only to "epic" in the list of words that are grossly overused.
ohh so overused.
Taj is too good.
Archangel
Smash Hero
I'm not saying the current edge settings are unreasonable. Perhaps we could hybrid it since we are going to hybridize alot of stuff as is. Why not set the value somewhere in the middle. just long enough to cover all aerial recovers but without making the timing as easy as before. I will say then when I last played this I found it extremely annoying when I timed it as late as I could and the person still grabbed the **** edge...
This idea should be put off till after grab boxes are shortened. We don't yet know the effects of this change.
This idea should be put off till after grab boxes are shortened. We don't yet know the effects of this change.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
holy ****. compromises never work. that's like saying that black people should only be 3/5ths of a person.I'm not saying the current edge settings are unreasonable. Perhaps we could hybrid it since we are going to hybridize alot of stuff as is. Why not set the value somewhere in the middle. just long enough to cover all aerial recovers but without making the timing as easy as before. I will say then when I last played this I found it extremely annoying when I timed it as late as I could and the person still grabbed the **** edge...
This idea should be put off till after grab boxes are shortened. We don't yet know the effects of this change.
Sneak8288
Smash Champion
melee edge occupancy doesn't make edgehogging easy... it just makes grabbing the ledge harder LOL 
Sneak8288
Smash Champion
Because this is the P:M thread... we never discuss things that matter, obviously
Anth0ny
Smash Master
yeah last I heard was that melee ledge occupancy wasn't going to be in because they couldn't code it, not because they didn't want it.
DarkDragoon
Smash Champion
Mewtwo's NAir has terrible priority, but its hitbox placement gets inside a lot of character's defenses/ranges, so that makes up for it. It is more of a good move than a bad move...compared to the rest of Mewtwo's not-DTilt moves.
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Archangel
Smash Hero
The problem with saying They is. The Devs often have many different opinions.
Ah, i apologize. Either way this game will obviously be a success so it doesn't matter which path they end up choosing.
Archangel
Smash Hero
I only hope landing detection gets exact or close to melee eventually. It would be nice to transfer timings on WD's and stuff completely over to melee without feeling a struggle at first. Aside from that I don't care about anything else.
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