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I know some of this had to be your doing Reflex. Thank you for making Ivysaur a character.
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Project M Social Thread
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yogurtgun1245
Smash Apprentice
At 4:18:30 does Snake angle his upsmash?
JCaesar
Smash Hero
You know it was a cute angle.
Yo, I'm taking a look at the features from P:M because I have PAL Brawl and can't try it 'till I get my hands on a proper way to boot a NTSC Brawl on my wii.
You are already having a hard time winning me over with L-cancel's return, so I was wondering if you kept, modified, or suppressed Brawl's ATs. More specifically :
-Glide tossing (I know this one now has an air version, how well does it work though ?)
-Wavebouncing
-Dodge dropping (also known as invicibombing)
-B boosting
-DACUS and hyphen smashing
-Platform cancelling
-Instant tossing
-Reverse Aerial Rush
I'm also wondering what you guys have done with tethers, crawling, and dropping a platform from a shield, which are mechanics that were either heavily reworked, or brand new.
And do items have their shieldstun adjusted to fit the rest of the moves, or do they keep their Brawl shieldstun ?
Finally, I think I read somewhere a long time ago that you could customize the buffer window, but I can't seem to find this again. Is that true ?
You are already having a hard time winning me over with L-cancel's return, so I was wondering if you kept, modified, or suppressed Brawl's ATs. More specifically :
-Glide tossing (I know this one now has an air version, how well does it work though ?)
-Wavebouncing
-Dodge dropping (also known as invicibombing)
-B boosting
-DACUS and hyphen smashing
-Platform cancelling
-Instant tossing
-Reverse Aerial Rush
I'm also wondering what you guys have done with tethers, crawling, and dropping a platform from a shield, which are mechanics that were either heavily reworked, or brand new.
And do items have their shieldstun adjusted to fit the rest of the moves, or do they keep their Brawl shieldstun ?
Finally, I think I read somewhere a long time ago that you could customize the buffer window, but I can't seem to find this again. Is that true ?
Only one I can attest to is the DACUS. It's there (and it's still as useful on snake), but it's a lot harder to pull off, mostly because buffering isn't in P:M, and from that, you're expected to hit a pretty small window of time.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
glide toss, wavebounce, dacus, hyphen smash, and rar are still in. i have no idea what invincibombing/dodge dropping, B boosting, instant tossing, or platform cancelling is
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
What the hell are hyphen smashing, b-boosting, Dodge dropping, wavebouncing, or platform canceling?
I assume Instant toss refers to being able to airdodge into an item to grab it, then press A to throw it right away.
I assume Instant toss refers to being able to airdodge into an item to grab it, then press A to throw it right away.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
hyphen smash is just dash/run -> cstick up
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Just a reminder.
Me, Jolteon, Alpha Dash and SiLeNt Do0m (PMBR Animator) will be streaming 2.6 tommorow on www.twitch.tv/Jolte0n
The time the stream starts will be confirmed tommorow in the (UK) afternoon.
British tea confirmed?????
Tune in for destruction!
Me, Jolteon, Alpha Dash and SiLeNt Do0m (PMBR Animator) will be streaming 2.6 tommorow on www.twitch.tv/Jolte0n
The time the stream starts will be confirmed tommorow in the (UK) afternoon.
British tea confirmed?????
Tune in for destruction!
Yung Mei
Where all da hot anime moms at
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platform canceling needs to come back, i tried doing the shield method of PC'ing, and its basically an immediate waveland onto Smashville's Platform with C Falcon. Its barely useful because i felt like there was a little lag, whereas in Vanilla, you could immediately act out of the cancel
plus pc'ing looks much cooler than just wavelanding
plus pc'ing looks much cooler than just wavelanding
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
This is a named technique?
What the hell do Brawl players call walking? Tilt-Dashing?
B.W.
Smash Champion
Brawl players thought it was a good idea to come up with a name for everything for some reason. Even the most simple things.
I'll never understand why it's call a RAR either. It's just turning around and hitting jump which makes you think face the opposite direction. They couldn't have just called it turn-jumping? Is saying turn-jump > b-air really that hard?
I'll never understand why it's call a RAR either. It's just turning around and hitting jump which makes you think face the opposite direction. They couldn't have just called it turn-jumping? Is saying turn-jump > b-air really that hard?
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I've come to calling it Dashturn Jump, though RAR does draw parallels to RBR.
Minor Pandemic
Smash Apprentice
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JCaesar told us on stream that he was running a modified codeset to use the 2.5 CSS.
When he restarted his Wii we got a short glimpse at something interesting.
The last screenshot included to confirm/demonstrate that it wasn't just the Brawl opening.
Thought I'd share.
When he restarted his Wii we got a short glimpse at something interesting.
The last screenshot included to confirm/demonstrate that it wasn't just the Brawl opening.
Thought I'd share.
Bryonato
Green Hat
Platform cancelling was usually done (iirc) by performing a down aerial at a very specific time when rising up to a platform. You would immediately cancel the jump and stand on the platform and could laglessly jump/smash/etc from the platform. It's noticeably faster than WL'ing.
Maybe you could do it with any aerial, I just remember I always just did down aerial with Wario/Marth
Maybe you could do it with any aerial, I just remember I always just did down aerial with Wario/Marth
hotdogturtle
Smash Master
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I always called it a running upsmash, because... you're doing an upsmash while running.
There was also some weird name for that thing where you spin around while walking forward.
hotdogturtle
Smash Master
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Confirmed that the normal P:M opening will be returning in 2.6? Omgwtfbbq
Shadic
Alakadoof?
That's literally just the full Brawl roster... Before every Demo we (See: Shadic) go in and yank out characters who aren't being included.
Minor Pandemic
Smash Apprentice
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Well I knew it was the full roster, I just hadn't seen it with PM before. SORRY GUYS PLEASE DON'T YELL AT ME FOR TAKING 5 SECONDS TO SCREENSHOT STUFF.
Kally Wally
Smash Ace
Tethers work how they did in Brawl, except you can tether an edge even if someone is hanging from it. If you try to reel in, you just jump up onto the stage without grabbing the ledge.
Crawling is the same as it ever was, as far as I know.
I don't think items have changed much, if at all. The only change I'm sure on is that stopwatches don't ever spawn, because they glitch out the new physics.
Project M has the option for a 3-frame buffer (Brawl has a constant 10-frame buffer, for reference) but I don't know anything about customizing it.
Just curious; how does the inclusion of L-canceling give PM a hard time of winning you over? I know it's not everyone's favorite thing, and as tech skill barriers go it's pretty arbitrary, but it seems like more of a minor complaint than a make-or-break one.
Crawling is the same as it ever was, as far as I know.
I don't think items have changed much, if at all. The only change I'm sure on is that stopwatches don't ever spawn, because they glitch out the new physics.
Project M has the option for a 3-frame buffer (Brawl has a constant 10-frame buffer, for reference) but I don't know anything about customizing it.
Just curious; how does the inclusion of L-canceling give PM a hard time of winning you over? I know it's not everyone's favorite thing, and as tech skill barriers go it's pretty arbitrary, but it seems like more of a minor complaint than a make-or-break one.
Glide Tossing: Still exist on the ground, still very good for some characters when they get the chance
Wavebounce: Yes still exists
Dodgedrop: I have no idea but you could always drop it right before airdodging anyways so doesn't matter much either way
B Boost: It *may* still exist but I don't think it's as huge as the Brawl version
DACUS: Yes but the lack of a buffer window may change the timing you are used to
Hyphen Smash: Probably acts the same as Melee instead of Brawl's massive momentum (Falcon doing Dash Usmash should not fly super far for example)
Platform canceling: Maybe? I think it was much easier in Brawl
Instant toss: Maybe
RAR: Yes it's still in and is an improvement for Melee in a lot of scenarios
Tethers are in, and no longer get wrecked by people who have already grabbed the edge. Tethers can share the edge with other people so merely grabbing the edge against them is insufficient these days. Crawling is still in for some characters, shield drop from platforms is like Melee.
Have no idea about items, pretty sure item related stuff isn't exactly 100% so don't expect much in that area. Buffer window used to be customizeable, but now there's just a minor setting for a "small" preset amount of buffer iirc. They wanted people to focus on playing the game Melee style with no buffer.
The main difference for crawling is that you can crawl off a ledge now, unlike Brawl.
In 2.0/2.1, you could customize the buffer window. In 2.5, it's just an "On/Off" switch for a 3-frame buffer.
In 2.0/2.1, you could customize the buffer window. In 2.5, it's just an "On/Off" switch for a 3-frame buffer.
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Teneban, you got all your techs here. Now you have no excuse not to try it.
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Another thing we should mention, L-cancels now have a white flash when you perform them correctly.
Meaning that you don't just guess the timing and hope it works anymore. You get immediate visual feedback everytime.
Meaning that you don't just guess the timing and hope it works anymore. You get immediate visual feedback everytime.
Instant item throw is totally a thing in PM.
Astraea31
Smash Apprentice
That was always there... Even back in 2.1
Secretly, that white flash is actually Jesus shining down upon us with his Holy Light, because even the Son of God prefers Melee
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Yes, but it's all new to a Project M newbie. I meant in comparison to Melee and what he remembers of it.
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Guest
Jesus = PMBR. They turn water into wine and Brawl into Project M. Everything gets an upgrade.
uCooL
Smash Ace
shadic why did u zoom in your picture?
hotdogturtle
Smash Master
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I hadn't noticed this. Or rather, I never paid any attention to it (or maybe I've just never watched the entire intro). I just assumed that it was the whole Brawl intro recolored; I never realized that some characters were missing.
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
There should be a stream on the 4th of July, unless your the type that still likes looking at a fireworks show past the age of 10.
Or you possess an arsenal of rockets and beer to annoy your neighbors the entire night.
Or you possess an arsenal of rockets and beer to annoy your neighbors the entire night.
Bryonato
Green Hat
I'm 20 and fireworks are awesome so fk off m8
Pseudomaniac
Smash Journeyman
Don't forget about Ganon! It's a godsend for him. Ever since I figured out what a DACUS was (yeah, I'm a little behind the times, so sue me) I've found myself playing Ganon a lot more.
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Can Pit be less janky as well plz? I know keep away is his thing, but he doesn't need all those easy fly away tools with his spam all at once.
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