Project M Social Thread

[Sanity's_Theif]

Those matches on JCaesar's channel make me realize how much I suck at this game... Eli I need to head out to NY again for training lol

 

[traffic.]

Don't worry there will be just as much of me as there is in the other forums.

 

[MaxThunder]

Read these:

Yes I did... Does not answer question...

 

[DrinkingFood]

Wait people are complaining about sonic now?
time for the nerftweak hammer
We should complain about Ike more, he's not bad enough yet
He needs a property where when he hits with anything but a rest sized hitbox with minimal priority at the end of his sword, he gets a 10x hitlag multiplier so it's automatically unsafe on shield and on hit the opponent has a few minutes to look up the exact angle, do the math, calculate the perfect angle for 18 degrees of DI, get a protractor, measure the angle of the control stick to perpendicular to knockback, and still have time to SDI into the stage for a tech once they're busy messing around with numbers. But to make up for it everything gets rest strength.

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Meanwhile the rest sized hitbox has no hitlag. But it has plastic noodle strength

Also get rid of QDJC, because once you get past the 11 frames of start-up it's pretty much uncommitted

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just like in 2.1, except it was 9 frames

 

[DMG]

Salt runs hot

 

[SinisterB]

Looks like DF's new gimmick posting style was inspired by his Science notes

@SM- Last I heard Project Mars and the rest are being worked on at KCMM, and will be posted on SWF when they're finished.

 

[DrinkingFood]

but guys it's just

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my opinion

IMHO

 

[Comeback Kid]

I hope they nerf everything for the sake of Melee.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Wait people are complaining about sonic now?
time for the nerftweak hammer
We should complain about Ike more, he's not bad enough yet
He needs a property where when he hits with anything but a rest sized hitbox with minimal priority at the end of his sword, he gets a 10x hitlag multiplier so it's automatically unsafe on shield and on hit the opponent has a few minutes to look up the exact angle, do the math, calculate the perfect angle for 18 degrees of DI, get a protractor, measure the angle of the control stick to perpendicular to knockback, and still have time to SDI into the stage for a tech once they're busy messing around with numbers. But to make up for it everything gets rest strength.

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Meanwhile the rest sized hitbox has no hitlag. But it has plastic noodle strength

Also get rid of QDJC, because once you get past the 11 frames of start-up it's pretty much uncommitted

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just like in 2.1, except it was 9 frames

PJSalt PJSalt PJSalt

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Cry more.

Smooth Criminal

 

[TheReflexWonder]

You'll see, guys.

We have a ways to go, but I hope you're enjoying the game, regardless.

 

[ELI-mination]

I hope they nerf everything for the sake of Melee.

Except spacies of course. Cuz they're so totally awesomely legit and should never be touched!

Every other character should definitely be hit with the nerf hammer though amirite? I mean, they're way too good.

Oh wait.
They're not.

 

[Oracle]

There are other reasons to change a character than them being too good :/

 

[ELI-mination]

There are other reasons to change a character than them being too good :/

Yup. And millions of those reasons still apply.

 

[Oracle]

That was addressed to drinkingfood, not you

 

[bubbaking]

Went against a true P:M spacee main for the first time yesterday who was really good. Holy cow, Snake is so good against spacees! He just wrecks them for not playing smart.

Does this kind of post belong here, 'cause I don't know where else I'd post it. Tier List Speculation?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

That's fine; I just don't want this to devolve into, "NO, YOU'RE DUMB AND WRONG," mostly.

 

[ph00tbag]

Every character wrecks spacies that don't play smart, even in Melee.

Every character wrecks any character that doesn't play smart.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Except spacies of course. Cuz they're so totally awesomely legit and should never be touched!

Every other character should definitely be hit with the nerf hammer though amirite? I mean, they're way too good.

Oh wait.
They're not.

This is what I have been thinking...

 

[Tero.]

I always ways wondered: will there be any aesthetic changes in new demos/final version?
Browsing through this topic and some of these stage textures are simply awesome.

This BF version of Bell Tower for example

Also I always thought it would be perfect to put some OC Remixes in there Like this Megaman Remix used in a M2K combo video (I.AM.ROBOT)
Since OCRemix worked together with the Smash Community for Apex they might even be interested in remixing a few stage themes especially for P:M?

That way P:M would be even more unique from Melee/Brawl

Anybody else feeling this way?

 

[JOE!]

If anybody is interested about Ivysaur, she has a new frame data / hitbox guide in her sub-forum

 

[iLink]

The color saturation on that BF is kinda nasty

 

[Rikana]

<Slashie>: The screwattack crew are going to be playing Project:M in 20 minutes on a livestream
<Slashie>: http://www.screwattack.com/shows/or...screwin-around-dia-de-huevos-2013-celebration
<Slashie>: Chatroom is here http://justin.tv/screwattack

 

[Slashy]

Heads up, the Screwattack team is playing Project:M on their stream

http://www.screwattack.com/shows/or...screwin-around-dia-de-huevos-2013-celebration

A chatroom+alt stream here

http://justin.tv/screwattack

 

[MaxThunder]

Slashie> Spread the word
<Slashie> Screwattack is going to be playing Proejct:M on a livestream in 20 minutes
<Slashie> http://www.screwattack.com/shows/or...screwin-around-dia-de-huevos-2013-celebration
<Slashie> The chatroom is here
<Slashie> http://justin.tv/screwattack


so yeah... check it out...

 

[Astraea31]

I always ways wondered: will there be any aesthetic changes in new demos/final version?
Browsing through this topic and some of these stage textures are simply awesome.

This BF version of Bell Tower for example

Also I always thought it would be perfect to put some OC Remixes in there Like this Megaman Remix used in a M2K combo video (I.AM.ROBOT)
Since OCRemix worked together with the Smash Community for Apex they might even be interested in remixing a few stage themes especially for P:M?

That way P:M would be even more unique from Melee/Brawl

Anybody else feeling this way?

A lot of the stages currently in PM are either currently swapped out with something else, removed certain stage hazards, and rematched to look exactly like Melee. I don't really think iconic brawl stages like BF or SmashVille need to be changed because most of the Brawl players are already comfortable with these being the official versions since it's been out for so long. Changing it into something else gives off the sort of unprofessional feel to it, that comes off looking as a mod. Which is what I sort of feel I get from stages like Metal Cavern and other N64 stages. I still like Final Destination (brawl one looked ********), Sky World, and Draculas Castle.

If people wanted another version they could just go to Brawl Vault and change them. Although I do think the Clock Tower Battle Field does look a lot better than the brawl version.

 

[Laijin]

So last version I played of this was about a year ago.
Does Toon Link still suck balls? Or did you guys change him back to be more like Young Link again?
Do I need to rejoin the backroom/start playing P:M again and make sure their not completely destroying my beloved character?

 

[Slashy]

A lot of the stages currently in PM are either currently swapped out with something else, removed certain stage hazards, and rematched to look exactly like Melee. I don't really think iconic brawl stages like BF or SmashVille need to be changed because most of the Brawl players are already comfortable with these being the official versions since it's been out for so long. Changing it into something else gives off the sort of unprofessional feel to it, that comes off looking as a mod. Which is what I sort of feel I get from stages like Metal Cavern and other N64 stages. I still like Final Destination (brawl one looked ********), Sky World, and Draculas Castle.

If people wanted another version they could just go to Brawl Vault and change them. Although I do think the Clock Tower Battle Field does look a lot better than the brawl version.

I'm upset that Metal Cavern replaced some of the good stage edits from Brawl+, Pirate Ship+ and Pictochat+

They're actually playing P:M now

 

[JCaesar]

Why don't you come over this weekend Laijin? There's a bunch of good players here and we're gonna have a tourney on Saturday.

 

[`dazrin]

So last version I played of this was about a year ago.
Does Toon Link still suck balls? Or did you guys change him back to be more like Young Link again?
Do I need to rejoin the backroom/start playing P:M again and make sure their not completely destroying my beloved character?

Yooo

Like... 4 years ago, I was a mere lurker, and I watched ALL your videos (and jash's) to learn how to play YL, and I modeled my YL after you. Now, I'm like.. one of the most well known PM TL's in this game, and part of the BR, but I will forever be your fanboy haha

 

[Comeback Kid]

Every other character should definitely be hit with the nerf hammer though amirite? I mean, they're way too good.

Oh wait.
They're not.

That explains Diddy's interesting design choices.......

 

[KayB]

Yooo

Like... 4 years ago, I was a mere lurker, and I watched ALL your videos (and jash's) to learn how to play YL, and I modeled my YL after you. Now, I'm like.. one of the most well known PM TL's in this game, and part of the BR, but I will forever be your fanboy haha

I was totally expecting another TL rant tbh lol

Anyone think Luigi needs more improvements? Especially recovery wise?

 

[leafbarrett]

Anyone think Luigi needs more improvements? Especially recovery wise?

Not me!
10nopes

 

[ELI-mination]

Personally I think his recovery is fine as it is. If it was somehow made better, I wouldn't complain. But right now I wouldn't complain either.

 

[KayB]

I think it's pretty bad. I guess you could use the roulette method to guarantee that your next side-b is a misfire, but you're not always going to have that opportunity. Green Missile is like super punishable, even on impact, and his super jump punch... well I guess that's self-explanatory.

 

[Slashy]

I think it's pretty bad. I guess you could use the roulette method to guarantee that your next side-b is a misfire, but you're not always going to have that opportunity. Green Missile is like super punishable, even on impact, and his super jump punch... well I guess that's self-explanatory.

Didn't Luigi Cyclone get buffs? Not to mention Super Jump Punch has a better horizontal recovery even if slight

 

[`dazrin]

I love your avatar, KayB. It actually literally puts my imagination in a different world. I feel like I'm right there in a bomb-omb stadium or that Wario Battle Field stage from Mario Party 1 haha.

edit:
Luigi cyclone didn't get "buffs". The animation just matches the hitbox now. Before there would be instances where the animation goes through someone where it looked like it should have hit them. The move just makes more sense.

 

[DMG]

He meant for recovering. Luigi cyclone is much more reliable for recovering now compared to Melee, where you had to do that stupid little "on stage" charge of Cyclone before you could rise with it.

A friend of mine loves Luigi and wants to play him more, and the only thing he wants to be buffed recovery wise is that he wants Side B to have a larger window for snapping the edge. It's gotta be frustrating going for the edge from far out, you scrape the edge, and get carried forward/under the stage lip lol.

 

[Slashy]

He meant for recovering. Luigi cyclone is much more reliable for recovering now compared to Melee, where you had to do that stupid little "on stage" charge of Cyclone before you could rise with it.

A friend of mine loves Luigi and wants to play him more, and the only thing he wants to be buffed recovery wise is that he wants Side B to have a larger window for snapping the edge. It's gotta be frustrating going for the edge from far out, you scrape the edge, and get carried forward/under the stage lip lol.

Not to mention the insane amount of time you had to hit the special button. I was never able to get Luigi to rise as much as he does in P:M.

I feel like you should have to charge the cyclone properly before you grab the ledge, and if it misfires it is an obvious risk for using the move.

If Luigi is getting a recovery buff, I demand that Ness be allowed to reverse ledge grab at all times while in fall special

 

[ELI-mination]

I think that having to charge the cyclone would be a bad decision. It's an integral part of his recovery and it should be able to be used at all times.

Also, I agree that side-b sweetspot could use a slightly larger window for snapping to the ledge. Not that it's necessary, but it does feel a bit too precise.