abcool
Smash Ace
That barrel gimped me soo many times and it's hella funny when someone gets spiked in it and mashing the A button just when it turns lol
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hotdogturtle
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I don't remember any barrel in the stage builder.
abcool
Smash Ace
I haven't played Brawl in ages, but i was sure you could add a barrel to a stage. Forgive me i haven't explored that game since 2009. I don't remember correctly.
GunBlaze
Smash Lord
There isn't
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
There are barrels in SSE though. I don't doubt they've tried using those though.
Does anyone really want the whirlwinds back in Hyrule 64?
i don't even want hyrule 64.
PGH Carroll
Smash Master
i want the whirlwinds lol
dirtydurrant
Smash Cadet
BLASPHEMY!!! Hyrule 64 is one of the greatest Smash bros. stages to ever exist. How dare you, good sir! How. dare. you.
And the answer to this question is obviously no, unless we can turn it off. I wouldn't mind it when I'm pwning my weak friends, but when I'm playing against people who are legit, that **** will be annoying.
eh, i don't think it's a good tourney stage, but it's legal in my area and EVERYONE wants to pick it. i'm just overly annoyed at it from that perspective.
RaphaelRobo
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How many scrubs have you played this game with?A young kid actually liking a Smash game for being faster? Maybe there is hope for the future after all.
He coulld be the next Crush
Every scrub I've shown this to has said that it's way better than Brawl, and a big part of that is the speed. A few of them complain about the Melee air dodge, though. Interestingly, all the ones that complain about it are the ones that think they can compete in Brawl, but can't, because they're scrubs.
For example, I was watching Zenith finals, and one of them asked how I'd go against PP. I said if he went Falco, I probably wouldn't be able to land a hit on him (I could be completely wrong about this, it's been months since I played him, and he always Ganon dittos me, so I don't really know how I'd compare to his Falco). Anyway, my friend said it would be easy, because he could use Lucas' PK Freeze. His logic was that if he kept spamming it while standing still, eventually one of them would hit, and then he could keep doing that until he could use Lucas' Usmash.
But those types of people are the only ones that complain about the air dodge. I've told them that they'd prefer it if they learned how to use it, but they don't want to do that. I mean, they're scrubs, so it's not like they can edeguard anyway, so they don't need it to recover.
Anyway, the point is, scrubs love this game because it's fast. Sakurai was completely wrong.
`dazrin
Smash Champion
NO whirlwinds, barrels, or pokemon coming out of the 64 stages please.
Heck, I would even go for no wind on DL64, but whatever.
Heck, I would even go for no wind on DL64, but whatever.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I can see how that might turn you off. I like screwing around on Hyrule Castle (especially in teams), but I would never allow it at a tourney I host.
Master WGS
Smash Lord
I think Hyrule's a perfectly legitimate team stage, but not for singles.
Though, even more, I prefer Vanguard's altered Hyrule myself. I think it's cool for doubles and singles.
Though, even more, I prefer Vanguard's altered Hyrule myself. I think it's cool for doubles and singles.
hotdogturtle
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None. You could say that I was just "theorysmashing", but I was expecting that little kids, if they were introduced to P:M after playing Brawl, would either: not care about the physics because Brawl has more content, or be put off by the speed because Brawl is easier.
And this is a bit different than "scrubs" who are closer to my own age. He said the kid was 7. Kids who are at least teens or above take a slightly different approach with how they form their opinions. I think.
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
I. Like. That. Stage.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
My little brother is one of those scrubs. I think I'll show him that post just to upset him
`dazrin
Smash Champion
All my casual friends love P:M wayy more than Brawl... just saiyan
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that's because it's better
crush
Smash Master
i liked melee better than brawll when i was 9 cuz brawl was too sloww (and cuz melee foxs pink boots are the ****)
also my first time playing demo 2 at a tronament like 2 months ago i 4 stocked hotdogtturtles wario with marth. ****
also my first time playing demo 2 at a tronament like 2 months ago i 4 stocked hotdogtturtles wario with marth. ****
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I liked Melee better than Brawl when I was 9, and neither of them existed yet.
Do you think Marth beats Wario? It makes sense in my head that he would, but I keep destroying all the Marths around here with Wario, and they all feel that Marth loses hard. This is one of the few times that my theorysmashing is really conflicting with my personal experience, and it hurts my brain. What do people think of this matchup?
Do you think Marth beats Wario? It makes sense in my head that he would, but I keep destroying all the Marths around here with Wario, and they all feel that Marth loses hard. This is one of the few times that my theorysmashing is really conflicting with my personal experience, and it hurts my brain. What do people think of this matchup?
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
@'daze
Same here. I even know a girl at my college with horrible arthritis who takes ages to learn anything (she just recently learned how to use her shield on a casual level) and yet ever since I downloaded Project:M and introduced it to the group, she hasn't wanted to go back to regular brawl. She even plays Lucario.
@JC
tell those marths to stop being so bad
Same here. I even know a girl at my college with horrible arthritis who takes ages to learn anything (she just recently learned how to use her shield on a casual level) and yet ever since I downloaded Project:M and introduced it to the group, she hasn't wanted to go back to regular brawl. She even plays Lucario.
@JC
tell those marths to stop being so bad
`dazrin
Smash Champion
Think about the puff -> marth MU.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
Yes, but Wario is also a lot worse than Puff. She has like... everything better than him.
`dazrin
Smash Champion
Anyways, I feel it's relatively even, with a slight leaning towards marth. Wario can get a lot more out of an opening than Marth can, and Wario's air maneuverability might screw up the Marth a bit. But I feel marth has the advantage because if marth spaces correctly, marth should definitely be able to stay out of Wario's weave-range and punish missed shoulder-bashes. Also, Wario's recovery isn't that good, so Marth shouldn't have a hard time edgeguarding him. I feel like maybe you just need to play against a really good marth.
My speculation: either 60-40 or 65-35 in marth's favor.
My speculation: either 60-40 or 65-35 in marth's favor.
hotdogturtle
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Oh thanks for reminding me that I actually used to play this game -__-
I'm pretty sure that I haven't touched it since that tournament, except for the time that I turned it on to make that blue FD texture. When's the next tournament again?
JCaesar
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standardtoaster
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Fly_Amanita
Master of Caribou
There aren't any good Marths in the legion, so I don't particularly value this piece of anecdotal evidence.
This, so much.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I didn't say I only played Legion Marths. But there aren't really any notable Melee Marths around here regardless. So yeah, I don't really have much to go on. That's why I was trying to spark some discussion.
I wish Neo was more active...
I wish Neo was more active...
Tell them to watch a Brawl Marth and do what they do, only with L-Canceling.
Also, make sure they know how to prevent you from following up with anything.
Also, make sure they know how to prevent you from following up with anything.
`dazrin
Smash Champion
^Uh.. or you could tell them to watch m2k's marth
KingBlaze777
Smash Apprentice
^ I recommend Ken's Marth, THEN M2K's. Makes more sense, to me at least.
Or you can figure out how to beat a Brawl character by using a Brawl character, which is probably the optimal strategy. Marth is very similar in general movement with both games.
`dazrin
Smash Champion
Oh, I see what you meant now. I thought you were just telling them to watch some good marth footage, so why would you watch a brawl marth when you could watch a melee marth in terms of improving in P:M?
Anyways, I still think it would be better to watch a Melee marth. Wario and Marth are different in P:M, not to mention physics are completely different. But I guess it wouldn't hurt to watch the MU in brawl and compare how it would transfer over in P:M.
Anyways, I still think it would be better to watch a Melee marth. Wario and Marth are different in P:M, not to mention physics are completely different. But I guess it wouldn't hurt to watch the MU in brawl and compare how it would transfer over in P:M.
mind-gamed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsCcumn3gKA&feature=relmfu#t=1m42s
good uploads Ruby/Prof.
good uploads Ruby/Prof.
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PM wario is not a brawl character, he's a Melee character.
As long as we're making comparisons, he's mostly a Brawl character with a lot of his good stuff taken away. It's a shame. We do the best we can.
He's different and fun, but, nothing about him really says "Melee" to me outside of an emphasis on tech chasing, though they're overall pretty weak, so I guess that'd make him a bad Melee character.
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