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[Empyrean]

I was once considering getting into SC2, but my cuz told me that I would have to play up to 10 hours per day to get better. Of course he was exaggerating (at least I hope so...), but that was enough for me to stay away from that game. In fact, ever since, I have not played any other RTS, besides the occasional Total Annihilation and Sins of a Solar Empire.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

How young are you that they still forced you to be right handed, how sure were you that you were left handed?

I've had that from the get-go but in the opposite, utensils and instrument lefty, throwing/golfing righty. I'm not really sure I have any explanation for mine.

This is what I'm like too. I basically do everything like a left handed person would, but when it came to playing sports and stuff where "left handed equipment" would have been required, I always just learned to play righty.

In smash, I think I do a lot of things different from most people. I shield and tech with L, but I wavedash with R. I also have to have Tap jump on, because I always full hop with the stick, and only use my jump button for short hopped aerials, and double jumps. Not sure if any of that actually stems from me being a lefty, but I'm totally different from all the right handed people I know.

 

[Vashimus]

I'm right handed but I wavedash and shield with L. Is that weird?

How is that weird? You're in the vast majority of Smash players. You don't hear people say R-canceling, do you?

 

[Hylian]

How is that weird? You're in the vast majority of Smash players. You don't hear people say R-canceling, do you?

I mean..it could be because it stands for Lag Cancel...

 

[Vashimus]

But then it's called Z-canceling in 64?

 

[Hylian]

But then it's called Z-canceling in 64?

Zero cancel as it removes all lag.

 

[Darkshooter]

Only dabbled with it a little bit in training mode, but already I feel myself ready to climb the Aurora Summit. In other words, I'm feeling good.

Anyone got the best threshold settings for Dolphin's GCPad? I'm using a Xbox 360 controller at the moment.

 

[metroid1117]

I wavedash all day errday with L.
My tips for getting a fast left hand:
Be left-handed
Play lots of bach on piano
play a string instrument

Yay for lefties, I also use L to wavedash.

Since we're talking about how we use controllers, IIRC Hungrybox has the weirdest control style out of any top player; he only jumps with tap jump and uses Z for all of his aerials.

 

[Vashimus]

Zero cancel as it removes all lag.

It gets rid of ALL lag? That's nuts.

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

I mean..it could be because it stands for Lag Cancel...

Zero cancel as it removes all lag.

Today I learned

 

[SpiderMad]

This is what I'm like too.

Including guitar/recorder lefty?

Oh that was another thing, I don't use R (except when I was newer in Melee to WD OOS while I held L). People are so varied I couldn't make an estimated guess if people go full out on either trigger: but that's been the thing for people changing their unused trigger to be Attack since Brawl to DACUS and now including Taunt for PM. When being taught in driver's ED, they said to only use the same foot for both pedals: which I'm guessing most taught drivers will thus perform but members of my family use their other foot for the brake (which pry goes with how they used to use it for stick-shift).

According to your case, I would have thought you'd shield and L-cancel with R and tech/WD with L: leaving the light press for the hand that doesn't have to also reach for buttons (which I see as a problem when I try to use R to WD). Long ago I may have used R more but like everything else I don't know anymore, and I feel more rewarded for pursuing one trigger anyways to keep the other free for custom controls.

How is that weird? You're in the vast majority of Smash players. You don't hear people say R-canceling, do you?

It may not be the vast majority since I do hear lots of people using R.

Zero cancel as it removes all lag.

Are you sure? Regardless, I'm presuming many people myself included were influenced after learning of either technique to use those respective triggers.

How do I ping someone without quoting them?

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

I actually use the awesome invisible controller us inactive players use. It's really amazing- there aren't any buttons to press! You all should try it sometime.

 

[Hylian]

Yes it removes all lag, yes it is crazy...go watch 64 and you will instantly see that there is no lag on anything lol.

Also, yes most people use L to L-cancel.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Including guitar/recorder lefty?

Oh that was another thing, I don't use R (except when I was newer in Melee to WD OOS while I held L). People are so varied I couldn't make an estimated guess if people go full out on either trigger: but that's been the thing for people changing their unused trigger to be Attack since Brawl to DACUS and now including Taunt for PM. When being taught in driver's ED, they said to only use the same foot for both pedals: which I'm guessing most taught drivers will thus perform but members of my family use their other foot for the brake (which pry goes with how they used to use it for stick-shift).

According to your case, I would have thought you'd shield and L-cancel with R and tech/WD with L: leaving the light press for the hand that doesn't have to also reach for buttons (which I see as a problem when I try to use R to WD). Long ago I may have used R more but like everything else I don't know anymore, and I feel more rewarded for pursuing one trigger anyways to keep the other free for custom controls.


It may not be the vast majority since I do hear lots of people using R.

Are you sure? Regardless, I'm presuming many people myself included were influenced after learning of either technique to use those respective triggers.

How do I ping someone without quoting them?

playing guitar lefty would require a left handed guitar, so the few guitar lessons I actually took as a kid, I learned to play righty. I dunno about recorder though, I'm pretty sure I played that righty, same as everyone else in my class. I don't think that instrument requires a large amount of dexterity from either hand, given the songs you learn to play in 4th grade.

and you can give someone an alert by putting @ in front of their name.
@ SpiderMad like this

 

[9bit]

I use L to L-cancel (working on light-pressing more) and R for basically everything else: shielding, airdodging, wavedashing, needle-cancelling, etc. I took the spring out of my R button and that makes it so much easier for me to wavedash consistently. Now if I play with a controller that has the spring in I think to myself how did I ever wavedash like this?!

My buddy uses R for everything, though, so we're trying to set R to something like Jump or Attack and see if he can work it in. I think it could be really helpful for him if he could, but he keeps forgetting to utilize it -_-;

 

[SpiderMad]

Yes it removes all lag, yes it is crazy...go watch 64 and you will instantly see that there is no lag on anything lol.

Also, yes most people use L to L-cancel.

meant as the more legit term, since the official terms only been called soft-landing. I'd say the majority think it's just the trigger name, so that makes it more of a legit term to me so it's hard to argue. Zero cancel and Lag cancel are already weird terms by Lag cancel isn't cancelling all the lag in Melee (1/2) "Lag reduce" and Zero is applying to the landing lag where it'd be more so as "Zero land(ing)" than cancel. Does Z-cancelling actually have 0 landing lag or the normal 4 frames like in Melee for Auto-cancelling/Normal landing (is normal landing in 64 4 frames?).

@ #HBC | Joker thanks.

might make another small stream compilation, or otherwise after more streams (Godzilla destroy all monsters kinda sucks with two people, we missed you Tango) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kkssXhmlgc#t=1382

 

[mYzeALot]

I used to use just x to jump and L for everything, so I would have y for footstool (up-taunt) and R for attack. I played melee for awhile and stopped using the tag in PM, so I started using Y and R as well as X and L, which is annoying because now I can't set Y or R to something more useful.

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

Here we have all these people playing with the classic controller....... and here I am playing with a Wii mote

 

[Yung Mei]

guys i saw some ****ed up **** on delfino today
http://smashbrosuniverse.tumblr.com/post/74548768964/i-saw-something-pretty-weird-on-delfino-today

 

[Vashimus]

Shadic, you prankster.

 

[Yung Mei]

shadic didnt do ****, that was all me

shadics not good anyways, hes a nerd/potato

#callout
#turnt

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

wait what is it weird that im right handed and use L for everything?

Nah, I've got my R set to attack so I could get used to it for GnW's DACUS and Gattling combos. Learning do do everything with a left hand was weird, but it's working out pretty well.

 

[Kally Wally]

Nerd/Potato is my OTP.

 

[Nguz95]

I've had that from the get-go but in the opposite, utensils and instrument lefty, throwing/golfing righty. I'm not really sure I have any explanation for mine.

Golf is the game of champions. Lefties represent!

 

[SpiderMad]

Mini golf ;D

Oh another thing, I also realized maybe why Melee made Air Dodge the only thing unable to be done through IASA and Brawl enabled it (making IASA in Project M able to perform any action through it, allowing more moves to be wavelanded in a Short Hop and ones that could even easier to). Also been pondering about other stuff like why Jump cancels exist but Bone's made a post.
http://smashboards.com/threads/kadano’s-perfect-marth-class—advanced-frame-data-application.337035/page-2#post-15612255
http://smashboards.com/threads/kadano’s-perfect-marth-class—advanced-frame-data-application.337035/page-10#post-16132091

First off is pry aesthetics, I feel they felt it'd be the one action where your character had to be back in neutral state to go into a full fledged dodge movement. Also with combo friendly 64 not having this option before in the air, they were cautious to not give defensive options too much help. So they had AD not able to performed in tumble, as well as IASA: and possibly more things.

" I think Melee must have left AD out of IASA similar to breaking tumble with anything but AD: where they didn't want people getting out of stuff willy nilly with invincibility. Which Brawl of/c didn't want combos and managed to do everything Melee was cautious not to do: to the point of adding Hitstun cancelling and even allowing AD for that."

Brawl pry enabled every defensive option for everything, and since a lot of aerials in Brawl have even more IASA generally than Melee I feel they wanted people to be more in control to perform an action just like the buffer: where if you did an aerial and wanted to dodge, they wanted to let you do it (with the 10 frames of buffer and quick IASA you're almost always going to get it performed).

Sakurai wasn't the only developer behind all these games right? He seems like he didn't develop the nitty gritty. There has to be someone who really thought out the hitstun/shieldstun tumble duration grab release weight dependent stuff that knew what he was doing.

 

[Hylian]

I'm pretty sure sakurai did most of the nitty gritty stuff as well. I mean..he made the entire 64 engine by himself with no team before nintendo even accepted it as a game they wanted made lmao.

 

[GMaster171]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goUL-KQSn-E&feature=youtu.be

You guys have got to try this, its literally the most fun thing.

 

[zman804]

http://www.twitch.tv/azprojectmelee

Live with doubles bracket, singles after it

 

[Kink-Link5]

Just got back from a 10-man weekly. Took second and broke even against another crossdressing Charizard player. Was my first real outing in the tournament setting, but it was well worth the experience.

Wolf is somewhere between nutso and hard to figure out. That bair is scary fast with how he maneuvers the stage.

 

[DMG]

Wait why is the crossdressing part relevant?

 

[Gamegenie222]

Cause his weakness is cross-dressers. Remember man it's a trap.

 

[DMG]

Um wat

stahp

 

[Yung Mei]

traps are ok

>tfw no monster girl gf
>tfw no lamia to squeeze you to near death while making hot nasty oogly diggeldy doo scadoo with you ;-;

 

[DMG]

Meiling steering us into "That weird part of Youtube Smashboards" again

 

[Kink-Link5]

Wait why is the crossdressing part relevant?

Because I'm a crossdressing Charizard player. I found it funny that WF and GF were two crossdressing Charizard players throwing nairs around.

 

[CyberZixx]

The phrase "trap" is not cool. Just an FYI.

 

[DMG]

Because I'm a crossdressing Charizard player. I found it funny that WF and GF were two crossdressing Charizard players throwing nairs around.

Mkay. I mean I already knew about that awhile ago (not the tourney obv), and that's certainly more interesting to hear than anything Zard related. On a scale of 1-10, I was at like... a 2, for reading your post because I could see Charizard pasted in it somewhere. You turned a story about Charizard Butt Dittos, into something better? More attention grabbing and mystique? I was not ready

 

[Vashimus]

They were throwing their Nairs around tho.

 

[DMG]

What are you saying Vash?

 

[Gamegenie222]

Because I'm a crossdressing Charizard player. I found it funny that WF and GF were two crossdressing Charizard players throwing nairs around.

Double Charizard in grand finals sounds amazing to be honest. I would watch that.