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[Comeback Kid]

Lets talk about Black Widow in age of Ultron

It is a better topic because she was ***** by a whole spy agency essentially.

That is an inappropriate joke, or is it?

Black Widow was pretty cool in Winter Solider, smart and sassy and down to earth, otherwise she is a poorly written character whether or not she was a damsel in distress or down on herself about sterilization. I blame Whedon who thinks he is so good at writing women he didn't even try to match WS.

Talk about Mad Max instead, it is a great movie with strong women that everyone can enjoy with no arguments (I hope).

 

[Ripple]

my results back up my ego, thank you very much

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

So with Fchamp and some other people dropping Marvel, as well as it just having a lot less turnout than previously, the marvel community is going through/going to go through the same stuff that PM has gone through. Things like exclusion from top tournies, little to no dev support, and decreased stream numbers, you know, fun stuff.

and idk Viscant had some really interesting/relatable tweets on the subject
(although some of these may just be as well suited towards melee when/if a decline in favor of smash 4 comes)

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[Bleck]

Yeah, that it is unnecessary for the plot without actually knowing what the plot is going to be. That is some great mind-reading you guys have there.

you know that the show is based on a series of books, right

books that are already out there

that people have actually read

people like me

like, you know that, right?

 

[Lizalfos]

I wonder if they are going to go anywhere with that whole motherhood theme they had for Other M, or if the Metroid series is just going to ignore that as an isolated incident and also never set games after Super ever again.

 

[Bleck]

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"breaking news; spectators play a large role in spectator sports"

what a ****in' revelation

 

[Comeback Kid]

But if people want to jump to conclusions without seeing what the show is going to do because the books = the show to them, that is just poor reasoning on their part.

So this statement wasn't a strawman on my part? Thanks Bleck, I can sleep easy now.

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

"breaking news; spectators play a large role in spectator sports"

what a ****in' revelation

the fact that fighting games are a spectator sport is not much short of a revelation tbh it wasn't that way two years ago

EDIT: VERY RELEVANT TO PM

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[FPSWalrus]

captains log
finished fate/stay night fate route
2 h scenes
second h scene was also good
but that doesnt matter
i just want saber to close her eyes and

Spoiler

Continue dreaming

but seriously this wasa fantastic story, im gonna take a break before trying UBW. That last battle had me yelling "YOOOO!!!"
will report if any changes

 

[Bleck]

So this statement wasn't a strawman on my part? Thanks Bleck, I can sleep easy now.

all of the changes that the show has made have been small ones that haven't changed the overall progression of major events in the narrative

what's going to happen with the character in the show is pretty predictable from this point on, and all of the stuff that she's going to do in response to this particular scene is stuff that they could have done anyways because her character already had gone through enough things to motivate her to want revenge

i.e all of those things that I already ****in' said

the fact that fighting games are a spectator sport is not much short of a revelation tbh it wasn't that way two years ago

daigo umehara's legendary SF3 comeback happened ten years ago, in a tournament for money full of spectators

like yeah 'cause there's been a recent flux of scene kids caring a whole bunch about Melee; and there's also been people winning SF2 tournaments for money full of spectators since before most of those kids were even ****in' alive

 

[Helsong]

I wonder if they are going to go anywhere with that whole motherhood theme they had for Other M, or if the Metroid series is just going to ignore that as an isolated incident and also never set games after Super ever again.

I could see it somehow tying in, but it can't be as unsubtle as it was in Other M. Be more subtle about it. End of Metroid 2, Samus escorts the little baby metroid out of SR388. In Super, the metroid returns the favor by helping her perhaps in some way affecting her deeply. Next in Other M, we get a bunch of baby/motherhood-related symbolism(Bottle Ship. Baby's Cry distress signal. Are you kidding me). But it's never explored beyond a surface level. We were consistently beat over the head with the theme, and it became very tiresome. It's like...ok, so Samus wants to take care of the vulnerable. So...what now? What does that say for her motivations? How does that affect her character going forward? This wasn't explored, making the theme pretty much a pointless addition as far as the overall narrative is concerned.

Fusion actually showed a more idealistic side to Samus, especially in her ending monologue, so who knows, there could be potential for some nice things to happen.

I'd actually like to see it expanded upon, but I don't have faith in the writers to do it in a satisfying manner. At this point, they might just decide to ignore Other M and keep going.

Dammit @ Lizalfos you made me go on another Other M rant.

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

daigo umehara's legendary SF3 comeback happened ten years ago, in a tournament for money full of spectators

like yeah 'cause there's been a recent flux of scene kids caring a whole bunch about Melee; and there's also been people winning SF2 tournaments for money full of spectators since before most of those kids were even ****in' alive

and wombo combo happened six years ago, so did shiz vs m2k

smash definitely wasn't a spectator sport then, and people were still winning money

 

[DethM]

and wombo combo happened six years ago, so did shiz vs m2k

smash definitely wasn't a spectator sport then, and people were still winning money

Nah, it was.

 

[Bleck]

smash definitely wasn't a spectator sport then, and people were still winning money

I'm not sure what you think a spectator sport is, but I can assure you that it involves a sport in which there are spectators

 

[SunJester]

Spoiler: Game Of Thrones Spoilers

I agree completely that part of the consideration was for shock value. (And for whatever its worth, when I read the parts of Dany + Cersei, I considered them to be ****, but obviously much more complex than the hamfisted GoT adaptations)

I'm mostly arguing at this point its not character assassination if this is what she's willing to go through to get what she wants, rather than she's a victim yet again. Again, we'll have to see if this pans out or not, I think it would be interesting if she was a WM (initials)-esque character in the end. But again, she'll have to take charge at some point, if she doesn't I would be extremely disappointed. I do think its important to note that Little Finger gave her a choice, and that she did tell Myranda (rather proudly) that Winterfell is her home, I think playing the victim again is just doing what Ramsay expects. Again, we'll have to see if this pans out, if it doesn't.....yuck.

I don't think they intended it to be malicious, I think at this point its more of an internal, subversive sexist ideals that push them to make these decisions of being more hamfistedly dumb about such a serious subject.

Maybe I'm making excuses for a show I like, but I think if they spun it a decently narrative direction in line with Sansa's development, and the season isn't over yet so perhaps we'll see if this becomes true.

I'm not entirely sure how they could have avoided this scene, given the context of the books. Sure it could have not had Sansa in it, but...its such a gut wrenchingly awful scene in the books as well. In the books a girl is ***** just for the character development of Reek, which can really be critiqued as well.

I think I'll have to see how D+D work it out. Regardless, I really enjoy hearing your opinions on the matter, if there's one positive of this a lot of discussion about a very serious subject has happened, and hopefully it helped a few people understand the subject matter better.

 

[Comeback Kid]

The 2D Metroids mirror the Alien saga even if superficially. Metroid is Alien the first encounter with Samus having to beat them in her underwear like Ripley does in Zero Mission. Metroid 2 she finds a child to care for while Super Metroid furthers Aliens with the return to the planet which started it all. Fusion is a combination of Alien 3 and Resurrection with Samus infected by a parasite but also becoming empowered by their combined hybrid nature. And the Galactic Federation is making clones and Queens.

 

[PlateProp]

Best.
Avatar.
Yet.

 

[SunJester]

I saw this and thought of you PMS.

 

[Mansta]

Demo is why I even thought of watching a yuri in the first place.

I thought the undertones part from the same video was funny.

 

[FPSWalrus]

Demo is why I even thought of watching a yuri in the first place.

I thought the undertones part from the same video was funny.

undertones
yuri shipping in hibeki

under tones
my god

 

[Mansta]

You're onto something because I didn't think of that, and I was shipping Kumiko and Reina since episode 1.

 

[Deleted member]

Yuri is my favorite flavor of Pocky.

 

[InfinityCollision]

ponies

aaaaaaaaaand I'm dead

I wonder if they are going to go anywhere with that whole motherhood theme they had for Other M, or if the Metroid series is just going to ignore that as an isolated incident and also never set games after Super ever again.

While I think they could make the theme work to an extent (a very subtle extent, mind), the best option both from a PR standpoint and a storytelling standpoint is probably that they either pretend Other M never happened or outright rewrite that period of time in a future game. I'd like to see Metroid's story (such as it is) continue past Super, but I also want to see them do a substantially better job of it than what we got in Other M.

 

[PlateProp]

You guys do realize that fusion takes place after super right

 

[InfinityCollision]

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Replaying Super right now, brain fart.

 

[Comeback Kid]

If the writers wanted to go there, Fusion sets up a perfect new story arc where Samus turns against the Galactic Federation to destroy any research they have done on the Metroids (to fight the emerging X Parasites) and also face off against the Xenomorph-like X Parasites at the same time.

Basically Samus becomes an outlaw and the only hope for the universe against these dual threats.

 

[PlateProp]

If the writers wanted to go there, Fusion sets up a perfect new story arc where Samus turns against the Galactic Federation to destroy any research they have done on the Metroids (to fight the emerging X Parasites) and also face off against the Xenomorph-like X Parasites at the same time.

Basically Samus becomes an outlaw and the only hope for the universe against these dual threats.

All of the X are dead jim

 

[Comeback Kid]

All of the X are dead jim

Suuuuure they are. So are the Metroids.

We killed them all this time for real honest!

That's the tropiest of tropes man.

 

[Vashimus]

That's the

of Pokes man.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Meh.

I hate yuri.

 

[FPSWalrus]

Meh.

I hate yuri.

well some russian dude takes offense to that

 

[PlateProp]

Suuuuure they are. So are the Metroids.



That's the tropiest of tropes man.

All of the X were either on SR 388 or on the space station that samus sent crashing into the planet, destroying both.

Metroids no telling, but since Samus has metroid dna in her now it probably wouldnt be too much of a stretch to recreate them, though they wouldn't attack samus without some sort of plot reason

 

[Blazing Ambition]

Guys
I have a problem
I've been playing fox recently ...and he's really good
Like holy **** why is everything he has so amazing
And he covers all of falcon's bad matchups
Such as fox

 

[Soft Serve]

Guys
I have a problem
I've been playing fox recently ...and he's really good
Like holy **** why is everything he has so amazing
And he covers all of falcon's bad matchups
Such as fox

He also covers falcon's good MUs better. This is the dilemma of touching the fox.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

Metroids no telling, but since Samus has Metroid DNA in her now it probably wouldn't be too much of a stretch to recreate them, though they wouldn't attack Samus without some sort of plot reason

Picture this. High-level Fed corporate/military types with an(understandable) grudge against the Pirates/Ridley/etc. want to capture her, vivisect her, and with said DNA right there able to be studied, start making Metroids in labs, again, with full knowledge of their genome this time around, and they might even find a way to control them for real. ...Just sit back and ponder for a moment.

That is all the reason needed for more morally flexible sorts to jump off the slippery slope 'for the sake of peace' or some BS like that(and many sorts would need no other reason than 'just because'), and because we're talking Chozo-tier knowledge(they created the Metroids) we're invoking 'things man was not meant to know', too, and I hate that stupid cliche, but as you can see, it's useful.

Besides, 'he who fights monsters' is practically tradition in space operas, who can say whether or not the Big N may go down that road someday in the context of the Metroid-verse?

Spoiler

Yay, tropes.

 

[PlateProp]

Picture this. High-level Fed corporate/military types with an(understandable) grudge against the Pirates/Ridley/etc. want to capture her, vivisect her, and with said DNA right there able to be studied, start making Metroids in labs, again, with full knowledge of their genome this time around, and they might even find a way to control them for real.
...Just think about it for a moment. That is all the reason needed for more morally flexible sorts to jump off the slippery slope 'for the sake of peace' or some BS like that, and now we're invoking 'things man wasn't meant to know', too. Besides, 'he who fights monsters' is practically tradition in space operas, who can say whether or not the Big N may go down that road someday in the context of the Metroid-verse?

Spoiler

Yay, tropes.

They wouldnt need to vivisect her, they were able to create an entire vaccine out of scrapings of cells left on the suit/area where she fought MB. I'd say maybe one vial of her blood would be more than enough to start creating metroids with their level of technology if they can do that

 

[Deleted member]

Stayed up for two more hours to blow off school stuff in order to play CS:GO, lose a match 15-16 to middle schoolers with ADD

#justcsgothings

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ PlateProp Correct, they wouldn't need to go above and beyond the call like that, but what if they want to? ...Again, 'he who fights monsters' is (theoretically) in play.

 

[Bazkip]

Stayed up for two more hours to blow off school stuff in order to play CS:GO, lose a match 15-16 to middle schoolers with ADD

#justcsgothings

Hey, at least you weren't this guy.
Edit: Aw what the hell the guy who posted it deleted it, lame :/
Edit 2: Okay wtf it's back up?

 

[Comeback Kid]

Assuming that the only X Parasites in the universe really were on the planet's surface and the space station, we know they are extremely resilient and that not even the Metroids or the best minds of the advanced Chozo were able to eradicate them.

Let's say the remains of the planet SR388 are floating around in space in chunks of rock. Some ore miner(s) decides to go take some of it as a profitable cargo on his/her ship and has it processed.

On the way home in Federation space the drilling of rock reveals something alive inside by the ship's sensors. The curious miner looks to see what it is but is suddenly attacked. Cue the title sequence.