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[Lizalfos]

Also grade inflation sucks.

First of all, it's bad for the students themselves. The lowered cost of getting higher grades disincentivizes achievement, and students end up learning less. Second, it makes things harder for businesses and society as a whole to be able to sort competency. If grades weren't based on a finite scale, then grade inflation wouldn't be a huge issue, but since they are, the sensitivity of the grading scale fails. Two students with 3.8 GPAs may be drastically different in actual quality but the system doesn't signal that, and they're going to receive the same job offers from businesses because businesses can't tell. This leads to more employer/employee mismatches, a costly process for both employers and employees. Employers have to spend more money to properly test the capabilities of their employees, meaning lower starting wages for job searchers.
Furthermore, for schools like mine with lower-than-average grade inflation (for high-level liberal arts colleges at least, my school is nowhere near the level of inflation of Ivy League schools despite ranking similarly or better on most CollegeBoard lists) this can lead to even poorer signalling of competency, as all employers will receive is a superficially lower GPA, which is only combated by the reputation of the school (a tenuous resource at best, but arguably more meaningful than a high GPA from an Ivy League school).

These are all good points, but employers probably realize this and look at the rigor of your college and then your class rank.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

But more than that, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
Ayyy capitalism and nepotism~

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

These are all good points, but employers probably realize this and look at the rigor of your college and then your class rank.

But that carries an added cost of a. researching colleges to discover rigor and b. attempting to find class rank, a hard number that some schools don't even give out.

I've listed a bunch of small effects, but they'll add up over time if trends continue.

That being said, there's much more pressing issues facing the world today, but grade inflation is a relatively large issue in academia

But more than that, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
Ayyy capitalism and nepotism~

in perfect competition nepotism can't exist because of market pressure

but we don't live in a perfectly competitive world

 

[MechWarriorNY]

At least the competitive part will soon be out of the equation since robots will make jobs obsolete, and good riddance when they do. Humans will need not apply~

 

[SpiderMad]

Hey my uni did a news thingie about my club's Melee tournament on Saturday! We had 48 entrants, and I even managed to get out of pools despite not being much of a Melee player and having a fairly tough pool overall. I don't talk much in this one but you get to hear me yell at people for one bit so that's nice

Also, the top 2 players in this tournament did the whole thing drunk.

Yes, one of them is the guy in the full Luigi costume.

EDIT:
Also post #77777 hype

It hurts to see all the noob areas out there, I would instantly become their maven

Also your voice is very similar to David Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2OQXQYQaZ8

 

[Deleted member]

I genuinely think FNAF doesn't qualify as a marketable video game.

It literally should be freeware.

 

[Bleck]

fnaf had a good ending

story wrapped up well

no it didn't

re: baltimore:

 

[trash?]

At least the competitive part will soon be out of the equation since robots will make jobs obsolete, and good riddance when they do. Humans will need not apply~

it's going to be strange when america's "free market capitalism and bootstraps and don't leech off of the system" beliefs are at odds with the fact that robots will inevitably do better at a lower price than your bootstraps ever will

keep in mind, I suppose it's not impossible for the ideals to leave unscathed. if you've noticed some of the odder patterns in modern business, like constant meetings that are intentionally designed to waste time, "specialists" for corporate law where most lawyers of that title will openly tell you that they make twice your pay for one-twelfth of the effort, you've noticed that society is surprisingly efficient at making jobs that have no true reason to exist without consciously knowing it

there's an article I wanna link but it has a rude word in its title so I can't. here's my fav excerpt from that, though:

This is a profound psychological violence here. How can one even begin to speak of dignity in labour when one secretly feels one’s job should not exist? How can it not create a sense of deep rage and resentment. Yet it is the peculiar genius of our society that its rulers have figured out a way, as in the case of the fish-fryers, to ensure that rage is directed precisely against those who actually do get to do meaningful work. For instance: in our society, there seems a general rule that, the more obviously one’s work benefits other people, the less one is likely to be paid for it. Again, an objective measure is hard to find, but one easy way to get a sense is to ask: what would happen were this entire class of people to simply disappear? Say what you like about nurses, garbage collectors, or mechanics, it’s obvious that were they to vanish in a puff of smoke, the results would be immediate and catastrophic. A world without teachers or dock-workers would soon be in trouble, and even one without science fiction writers or ska musicians would clearly be a lesser place. It’s not entirely clear how humanity would suffer were all private equity CEOs, lobbyists, PR researchers, actuaries, telemarketers, bailiffs or legal consultants to similarly vanish. (Many suspect it might markedly improve.) Yet apart from a handful of well-touted exceptions (doctors), the rule holds surprisingly well.

Even more perverse, there seems to be a broad sense that this is the way things should be. This is one of the secret strengths of right-wing populism. You can see it when tabloids whip up resentment against tube workers for paralysing London during contract disputes: the very fact that tube workers can paralyse London shows that their work is actually necessary, but this seems to be precisely what annoys people. It’s even clearer in the US, where Republicans have had remarkable success mobilizing resentment against school teachers, or auto workers (and not, significantly, against the school administrators or auto industry managers who actually cause the problems) for their supposedly bloated wages and benefits. It’s as if they are being told “but you get to teach children! Or make cars! You get to have real jobs! And on top of that you have the nerve to also expect middle-class pensions and health care?”

If someone had designed a work regime perfectly suited to maintaining the power of finance capital, it’s hard to see how they could have done a better job. Real, productive workers are relentlessly squeezed and exploited. The remainder are divided between a terrorised stratum of the – universally reviled – unemployed and a larger stratum who are basically paid to do nothing, in positions designed to make them identify with the perspectives and sensibilities of the ruling class (managers, administrators, etc) – and particularly its financial avatars – but, at the same time, foster a simmering resentment against anyone whose work has clear and undeniable social value. Clearly, the system was never consciously designed. It emerged from almost a century of trial and error. But it is the only explanation for why, despite our technological capacities, we are not all working 3-4 hour days.

could prolly just copy-paste that into google and find the article, it's not all that subtle

 

[Bleck]

it's going to be strange when america's "free market capitalism and bootstraps and don't leech off of the system" beliefs are at odds with the fact that robots will inevitably do better at a lower price than your bootstraps ever will

this is already happening right now

 

[DrinkingFood]

Scott Cawthon just announced a FNAF4...way to keep us wide-eyed with surprised awe Scott.
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@PMS | steelguttey , I guess he could build a game off the fact that Springtrap might be alive and well (for a rotting corpse in a discount outlet Bugs Bunny costume), and actually salvaged from old parts to form a new body. Still, it's pushing what I've let this guy get away with. If he can keep it tense and mix up the system for not being mauled and maimed by the more uncanny aspects childhood that's fine, but your still pushing. I don't think he should stop making games, but I really want to see what else he's capable of whether it be indie horror, rpg, whatever.

k now I need that video of the murderous horse chick

 

[| Big D |]

God damn @ Ripple why you gotta be so mean to me

 

[trash?]

big d pls make ppl have more pm tournaments around here

I was expecting at least a weekly but I apparently literally moved here right when the scene imploded???????

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ trash? I found that, heh, article you were referring to, and I could not agree more with the premise here. When(not if) pencil-pushing-type jobs get automated too, to tl;dr: a bit, the big questions there are "How violently will the rich and powerful fight when what they've manipulated into existing on the sheer suspension of disbelief and patience of the many is seen as an inefficiency to be corrected by forces that care about facts, not fiction?"/"And then what?"
...Unfortunately, the answer for that first one has been and always will be "Very."(at least they can't win), and any meaningful response to the second one is distressingly open-ended.

 

[Professor Gravy]

I'm thinking about putting this on warioware of smashville. Opinions?

 

[ZiggaWaTT]

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God damn @ Ripple why you gotta be so mean to me

I liked your play. Also get fakku to sponsor you. should be easy with your tag

 

[trash?]

sounds more wario-ware like, warioware has a general theme of hectic classical-ness to it

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

wario ware is vaporwave only I will stand for nothing less

there's a macintosh plus skin of warioware somewhere that I really want but I can't find it pms help me pls

 

[Ripple]

I skip pleasantries. I tell people only what I believe without filter.

 

[SpiderMad]

I skip pleasantries. I tell people only what I believe without filter.

What do you think of this pic? http://i.imgur.com/TWeStHd.jpg

 

[PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP]

What do you think of this pic? http://i.imgur.com/TWeStHd.jpg

lmao

 

[Lizalfos]

Depends if by "specialist" you mean in house or as a part of a firm.
Lawyers work really hard no matter what in most instances.

 

[Rᴏb]

wario ware is vaporwave only I will stand for nothing less

there's a macintosh plus skin of warioware somewhere that I really want but I can't find it pms help me pls

you listen to vaporwave too? i like you

 

[Helsong]

Warioware is where all the hotline miami music goes. Seriously, Hydrogen and Miami Disco are perfect there. Musikk Automatik is also excellent there.

 

[Lizalfos]

The world doesn't need CEOs. Nice try. I'd like to see a group a people with minimal hierarchy execute a singular vision.
That snippet did nothing but spew rhetoric for a belief you already have. It was hardly convincing to anyone who wasn't convinced.

Thinking machines will change everything for everyone, from the bottom to the top. I won't dispute that.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

@ SpiderMad Smile more genuinely, Mr. Frowny-face.
...Nice glasses. :^)
(dank otherwise, doe)

 

[Lizalfos]

If you think that Lawyers who litigate don't work hard, you are out of your mind.

 

[PlateProp]

Hotline Miami music on warioware is so 3.02

 

[Helsong]

@ Lizalfos who are you talking to? Looks like you're having an argument, but I can't see ****.

@ PlateProp Hotline Miami music is never out of date.

Also, could a PMDT member weigh in on this:
Characters don't have more jumpsquat frames than melee. For example, Fox. 3 frames of jumpsquat in Melee, and in PM. The reason shorthopping with him in Melee is harder is because Melee has a bug where your window for a shorthop is 1 less than your jumpsquat. PM doesn't add in an extra frame for shorthop windows, it just keeps the shorthop windows equal to jumpsquat, like every other smash game. Is this correct?

 

[Lizalfos]

@ Lizalfos who are you talking to? Looks like you're having an argument, but I can't see ****.

@ PlateProp Hotline Miami music is never out of date.

Also, could a PMDT member weigh in on this:
Characters don't have more jumpsquat frames than melee. For example, Fox. 3 frames of jumpsquat in Melee, and in PM. The reason shorthopping with him in Melee is harder is because Melee has a bug where your window for a shorthop is 1 less than your jumpsquat. PM doesn't add in an extra frame for shorthop windows, it just keeps the shorthop windows equal to jumpsquat, like every other smash game. Is this correct?

You are right about short hopping.
I could have responded to people but I just felt like throwing it out there and waiting to see if anyone cared to take the bait, lmao.
Seriously tho Lawyering isn't easy. Just law school is brutal.

 

[standardtoaster]

Correct, helsong. Fox has 2 frames to sh in melee, 3 in pm. Melee sh window is = jumpstart -1. PM sh window = jumpstart.

 

[Helsong]

Correct, helsong. Fox has 2 frames to sh in melee, 3 in pm. Melee sh window is = jumpstart -1. PM sh window = jumpstart.

I'm guessing that's a Melee-only thing, then? I haven't noticed any shorthop difficulties in other smash games.

 

[Mansta]

I have a bunch of Persona music on Warioware, it's just been there for a long time.

 

[trash?]

I... never actually have my music on so I never feel a need to add any tracks

mostly because I'm just listening to stuff on 8tracks while I'm playing anyhow

 

[MechWarriorNY]

If you think that Lawyers who litigate don't work hard, you are out of your mind.

It doesn't matter how hard any human works if their job can be done better by a robot, and that umbrella is going to cover employment as a concept soon. ...Like I said before, the only things that really matter here is whether or not the 1%/plutocracy/etc. will step aside, or be SWEPT aside...

...And what will come next. i.e. How is a post-scarcity society gonna work? This is very important stuff lol. (though I hate to get the thread fixated or anything, sorry about that!)

 

[trash?]

...did you just go from socioeconomic talk to transformers fantasy

 

[Lizalfos]

To him they are the same thing.

 

[Player -0]

I skip pleasantries. I tell people only what I believe without filter.

You are MechWarrior.

He's a robot you that will take over all functions of yours and do them better.

@ Lizalfos who are you talking to? Looks like you're having an argument, but I can't see ****.

Lizalfos is always having an argument. Sometimes you think he isn't but he is.

 

[trash?]

robots will create human jobs by making a god damn mess everywhere every time they fight for their horrid little energybits and since they're too busy destroying everything they can't clean up for us

 

[Player -0]

robots will create human jobs by making a god damn mess everywhere every time they fight for their horrid little energybits and since they're too busy destroying everything they can't clean up for us

Have you even watched the Matrix?

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Hypothetically, if I rode my bike across the country would anyone say hey during the trip?

...

I would probably have to carry a pump and extra tires.

...

Walking might work better.

 

[Lizalfos]

You are MechWarrior.

He's a robot you that will take over all functions of yours and do them better.


Lizalfos is always having an argument. Sometimes you think he isn't but he is.

Jake is the worst.
OH I CAN'T PLAY B/C THE SERVERS ARE DOWN.
OH I'M 16 AND MY BEDTIME IS ****ING 9OCLOCK