Project M Social Thread Gold

[Revven]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but were those stars popping out of Kirby his indications of a successful L-cancel?

That's actually a graphical effect Kirby has always had for his landing animation. So... unrelated to L-Canceling.

 

[trash?]

by rule, every techskill is at least has one more frame of window compared to their melee counterparts

I don't remember why, but I'm relatively sure it's because of a physics bug that makes it so they can't make it exact???? I'm probs spouting nonsense past that but yeah, overall everything is slightly easier tech-wise

 

[| Kailex |]

Its that 1 frame lag thing from brawl that makes everything easier

 

[Vashimus]

Perfectly fine by me. Making a tech skill harder to perform doesn't make it more fun.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

Where is SSB4 Samus' fsmash and tilt shown?

 

[GunBlaze]

Where is SSB4 Samus' fsmash and tilt shown?

On her section of the video.

 

[Scarlet Bean]

Its that 1 frame lag thing from brawl that makes everything easier

 

[splat]

I really hope we get different-colored eggs for Yoshi's alt colors. So much.

In anycase, I need to change my pants.

Warchamp just responded to my question here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/c...e_pmbr_webmaster_playtester/cdi4l48?context=3

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Warchamp just responded to my question here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/c...e_pmbr_webmaster_playtester/cdi4l48?context=3

Alright, I guess that's better than nothing changed but yeah. Hope this can be furthed get fixed with though!

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

bcuz Sonic

 

[B.W.]

why? it's not like you'd have to use it if you don't want to.

I'm not sure how this statement makes sense.

Whether or not I have to use it depends on how important of a tool it is for the character. Not whether or not I want to.

 

[Vashimus]

You don't HAVE to use Fox's Shine, B.W.

 

[DMG]

Shineless Fox OP

 

[JOE!]

by rule, every techskill is at least has one more frame of window compared to their melee counterparts

I don't remember why, but I'm relatively sure it's because of a physics bug that makes it so they can't make it exact???? I'm probs spouting nonsense past that but yeah, overall everything is slightly easier tech-wise

Is that a bad thing though?

 

[GunBlaze]

Is that a bad thing though?

It's the main reason people ***** around saying, "this character's movement feels worse".

 

[JOE!]

That I don't really get...

If it is "easier" to do movement stuff, wouldn't it feel smoother / you'd mess up less?

 

[GunBlaze]

That I don't really get...

If it is "easier" to do movement stuff, wouldn't it feel smoother / you'd mess up less?

Meh, spacie mains. Can't never please them.

 

[| Kailex |]

We should add more space amimals

 

[TreK]

Isn't Jigglypuff a space animal, technically ?
I mean, she's the moon pokémon that came from a meteorite and all.

 

[splat]

We should add more space amimals

We should design a space amimal. I vouch for a jerboa.

Isn't Jigglypuff a space animal, technically ?

I mean, she's the moon pokémon that came from a meteorite and all.

Not an animal - she's a balloon.

 

[iLink]

Isn't Jigglypuff a space animal, technically ?
I mean, she's the moon pokémon that came from a meteorite and all.

You are thinking of clefairy.

 

[Giygacoal]

Samus is a space animal.

 

[TreK]

You are thinking of clefairy.

Oh, right.
Then we do need moar space animals.

 

[SpiderMad]

Is that a bad thing though?

by rule, every techskill is at least has one more frame of window compared to their melee counterparts

I don't remember why, but I'm relatively sure it's because of a physics bug that makes it so they can't make it exact???? I'm probs spouting nonsense past that but yeah, overall everything is slightly easier tech-wise

What exactly are we talking about? Are you sure there's some global thing like that?

 

[standardtoaster]

by rule, every techskill is at least has one more frame of window compared to their melee counterparts

I don't remember why, but I'm relatively sure it's because of a physics bug that makes it so they can't make it exact???? I'm probs spouting nonsense past that but yeah, overall everything is slightly easier tech-wise

that's not why swd is a 2 frame window now. we manually added that and originally made it have the same 1 frame window as melee. it wasn't until the last few months we made it a 2 frame window

 

[Denthorn]

Meh, spacie mains. Can't never please them.

The issue isn't with things being easier causing them to feel clunky. The problem is that there's a 1 frame delay on all movement. Personally, I still feel like wavedashing is very clunky as, even if you time the wavedash perfectly, you don't start moving from the air dodge until at least a frame after you become airborn, meaning the air dodge starts when you're higher in the air, you get less distance, and it looks clunkier (that last bit about the visuals might just be a personal thing though). Its the biggest issue I personally have with movement so far and I'm sure its the same for a lot of other melee players.

That said, super hype for 3.0, its looking ****ing fantastic, 1 frame delay in movement or not.

 

[Sixth-Sense]

that's not why swd is a 2 frame window now. we manually added that and originally made it have the same 1 frame window as melee. it wasn't until the last few months we made it a 2 frame window

god please tell me you guys fixed the brawl 1 frame thingy

you do that and i will personally break every melee disc in half in a one mile radius of my house

well ok no but i will at least break mine and my friends

 

[GP&B]

I'm insanely excited for the changelist just to see what engine improvements have been made. I wouldn't be surprised if that was fixed, but I'm really looking forward to see what all has been touched up.

 

[Sixth-Sense]

I'm insanely excited for the changelist just to see what engine improvements have been made. I wouldn't be surprised if that was fixed, but I'm really looking forward to see what all has been touched up.

me too man! i think i wont actually be able to play when it comes out which sucks but if the changelist comes out the day after then i'll be excited just to read it and then read it again until i get to play or get to see at least one video

 

[SpiderMad]

god please tell me you guys fixed the brawl 1 frame thingy

you do that and i will personally break every melee disc in half in a one mile radius of my house

well ok no but i will at least break mine and my friends

save the 1.0s

 

[DrinkingFood]

That boost that samus does during her crawl, is that her crawl attack, similar to what snake has?

 

[SpiderMad]

That boost that samus does during her crawl, is that her crawl attack, similar to what snake has?

I thought it was the SWD

 

[GP&B]

I think he means initially where the Morph Ball leaves a trail before using Bombs into an SWD.

 

[DrinkingFood]

Personally, I still feel like wavedashing is very clunky as, even if you time the wavedash perfectly, you don't start moving from the air dodge until at least a frame after you become airborn, meaning the air dodge starts when you're higher in the air, you get less distance, and it looks clunkier

but both the momentum from the jump and the airdodge are delayed by one frame, meaning you begin the movement airdodge at the same height, but it happens one frame later.

 

[SpiderMad]

I think he means initially where the Morph Ball leaves a trail before using Bombs into an SWD.

Oh I see

 

[DrinkingFood]

I thought it was the SWD

I think he means initially where the Morph Ball leaves a trail before using Bombs into an SWD.

watch that part of the video again, where samus shoots a missle, nairs, then fairs DK. She then boosts behind him leaving a glowing trail, and hits him in the process. I'm pretty sure that's a crawl attack. She doesn't drop a bomb anywhere in there.

See, after the fair, DK starts a side-b, but it's interrupted by a weak hitbox on that morph ball attack which I'm assuming is a crawl attack

 

[GunBlaze]

It's a Crawl-Tilt. Confirmed by SilentDoom. Also to note is that if Samus enters Morph Ball Crawl, she'll stay on MB until she performs another action.

 

[Sixth-Sense]

Would anybody be so kind as to explain to me how olimar works? he looks like the quirkiest character in the entire roster to me (i've never used him in brawl) i simply don't understand how he works with his pikmin and stuff

 

[GunBlaze]

Relevant

 

[Hungry Headcrab]

Why no Olimar?

Hype though.