Kati
Smash Lord
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I like lylat, but I agree. Popping people up onto the platforms always feels like a guaranteed combo extension.
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idk, I like that. if it was a perm starter then yeah it should be a bit higher, but since everyone prefers it as a CP, I'd consider it a quirk that would make it why you'd want to pick it. marth tippers all day long
Lyat is picked sometimes. It's just hard to see it at the premier CP stage for a character. It doesn't have traits that lend someone to go "Yes YES! Muahahaha, this is the perfect stage for Luigi to take Captain Falcon!"
Even if you were to try and abuse it with a strong platform combo character like Marth, you probably have better choices around. With that said, now that it doesn't tilt, I think it's a pretty decent stage that should always be legal somewhere in the stage list.
Even if you were to try and abuse it with a strong platform combo character like Marth, you probably have better choices around. With that said, now that it doesn't tilt, I think it's a pretty decent stage that should always be legal somewhere in the stage list.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
it's a very good counter pick because most people don't seem to play well on that stage. master the stage and you're golden
Hating on skyworld is what all the cool kids do
I don't like it, sorta. I think it's a bit large, and some MU's become extremely unfun. If I cared about playing Ganon anymore, I would probably ban that stage anytime that I could. It would be near impossible to catch up with someone running around. That's the only concern I have with it, but it's similar to Norfair in that regard.
Actually, mostly Ganon. Probably don't want to go to stages like that, he won't have fun.
I don't like it, sorta. I think it's a bit large, and some MU's become extremely unfun. If I cared about playing Ganon anymore, I would probably ban that stage anytime that I could. It would be near impossible to catch up with someone running around. That's the only concern I have with it, but it's similar to Norfair in that regard.
Actually, mostly Ganon. Probably don't want to go to stages like that, he won't have fun.
hotdogturtle
Smash Master
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I was watching the Xanadu stream yesterday, and the Meta Knight player Squeak picked that stage a few times because the top platform was the perfect height for him to do some up-B autocancel trick thing.
hotdogturtle
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Also want to respond to this:
I'm not necessarily saying that Lylat is one of these stages, but when thinking about the stages that I never play in P:M and very rarely see, it's mostly the same list as other people's when discussing the subject.
I agree with this, and it's actually a solid answer for when people ask "is it possible to have too many legal stages?" Yes, obviously people have personal preferences, and you can play P:M outside of tournaments, and some people use random select for every casual match and whatnot. But when trying to strategize character matchups for a counterpick, there are some stages that you hardly have any reason to pick. All of their qualities, from size to boundaries to platform height/layout, may all be covered by different stages that work better. It can get to a point where you'd never pick stage X because stage Y offers the same advantages plus more.
I'm not necessarily saying that Lylat is one of these stages, but when thinking about the stages that I never play in P:M and very rarely see, it's mostly the same list as other people's when discussing the subject.
norfair's generally better for that imo, because whereas there's a select few places MK can sweetspot up-b cancels on skyworld, you can do the same basically wherever the hell you feel like on norfair
on that note, ppl need to learn the timing for shuttle loop cancelling off ledges. if you know what you're doing it can basically create a constant edgeguard
Tlock
Smash Apprentice
I don't play well on that stage because the background is so obnoxious. It needs to be changed, and then it will be a viable counter pick stage.
Vashimus
Smash Master
I don't see that much to hate about Skyworld unless you play a spacie, where it's just a giant middle finger to them.
Glick
Smash Lord
what's up *******
Vashimus
Smash Master
Up is a direction, my good sir.
D1
Banned via Administration
What exactly makes Bowser beatable? Go.
PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP
Hologram Summer Again
I have kinda a weird request. Can someone link me to videos with snake box taunt edgeguards? I'm asking here because awhile ago I saw someone post a video of professor pro doing it, but I can't find that again.
Ah yes. Hands. The natural enemy of giant armored koopas.
Xinc
Smash Lord
Too bad Mario's short and stubby hands can be blocked by his fire breath.
bowser can't trade with MK fairs, because MK players laugh at the very concept of trading
then, inbetween those fairs, you grab them. like even once. and then you dthrow techchase, because while MK doesn't really have shiek-level techchases on ppl, his dthrow guessing games are relatively good and basically any character in the game can techchase bowser with patience, so you can tapdance your way to a free kill
bowser is pretty painless once you get around his gimmicks tbh
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
is wavedash > jab > grab/JC grab still a thing? Yes?
Then I don't see
Smooth Criminal
Bryonato
Green Hat
This is one of the main reasons I pick Skyworld. I also just like it in general for Ness for how it gives him more recovery/edgeguard options. Almost always go there if it's not banned
He's fat.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
I have relevant information!
If you want to know how Frigate's patterns work, I did an analysis of the stage back in 2010.
Go to the "New Stuff" section of the OP for the more digestible version.
http://www.smashboards.com/threads/...know-and-were-too-lazy-to-ask-updated.281330/
If you want to know how Frigate's patterns work, I did an analysis of the stage back in 2010.
Go to the "New Stuff" section of the OP for the more digestible version.
http://www.smashboards.com/threads/...know-and-were-too-lazy-to-ask-updated.281330/
He can be out camped either via projectiles or dash dance gaming. Getting grabbed is a nightmare for bowser. His recovery isnt the strongest due to his big size and linear fashion recovery. So he's gimpable and edgehogable. I also feel that bowser has a harder time getting punishes vs doing the actual punishing.
Professor Pro
Smash Legend
Last stock and last game on Metal Cavern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBrKYDXQ4fk
I do it first off at like 10:10, but it's not as cool looking then lol. The one you're probably looking for is 19:16
Xinc
Smash Lord
I understand, Anne. Anne, are you okay... with me saying Bowser can still play correctly to evade that stubbiness?
Fortress
Smash Master
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Does ZSS gain height on one of her jumps when she does an up-b at the same time?
himemiya
Smash Lord
Speaking of zss why haven't they made a metrotd game where you have the option to play as zss through out the whole game? Or did I miss something?
Fortress
Smash Master
Picture playing through Prime with only the emergency pistol and no armor. Everything does, like, five tank's worth of damage to you, and you just melt the instant you go into the Magmoor Caverns.