Project M Social Thread Gold

[Vashimus]

majora's mask is not only the best zelda game but probably actually the best game period

and I only say probably because dark souls

I just randomly thought about this today, and realized why I like the Souls games...It's like they represent almost everything that I've wanted out of recent 3D Zeldas. Obviously I wouldn't want Zelda games to be total Souls clones, but there's a lot the series can learn from those games.

 

[SpiderMad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKTLU7Agh74

 

[Soft Serve]

What exactly is this agzdrop again? If the custom controls panel were closer it'd be less of a pain

If you do the diagonal c-stick input with an AGT you z-drop it. I've been having trouble because sometimes you do an airdodge and drop, sometiems you just zdrop and have the air shift in momentum.

 

[Player -0]

If you do the diagonal c-stick input with an AGT you z-drop it. I've been having trouble because sometimes you do an airdodge and drop, sometiems you just zdrop and have the air shift in momentum.

So can you infinitely AGT Z-Drop?

 

[SpiderMad]

If you do the diagonal c-stick input with an AGT you z-drop it. I've been having trouble because sometimes you do an airdodge and drop, sometiems you just zdrop and have the air shift in momentum.

and you want it to perform the latter? How consistent can you get it?

 

[RelaxAlax]

I don't think so, I tired many many many times and never could get the Chaos Chao

Maybe one day ...

Sega should totally make some download only Chao Garden for Wii U or something.

In other news SmashCentral is getting Smash Wii U tomorrow and is making videos on it reviewing it. Not sure how much he's permitted to show but video content itself is about 2 hours

 

[PootisKonga]

I'd rather read Naruto than be another piece of garbage brony talking to his pedophile friends about which Madoka character he jacks off to most often

Even though I fall into none of those categories and it's likely that you're using hyperbole, YIKES THAT'S A LOT OF STEREOTYPES

 

[Strong Badam]

I'm a brony and thanks to @Bleck I now know two new things about myself.

 

[GMaster171]

Yea Strong Bad dont you know the shows you watch define everything about you?

jeez

 

[zz_halim]

Yoo, is the ECB changing with the way a character gets to the ledge like in melee or is the timing for ledgedashes always the same in PM?

 

[PlateProp]

I'm curious as how the new ledge stuff is gonna affect the ledge camping where you touch the stage, like Hax dashing

 

[Sumodude-S51]

I have new best avatar

Discuss

I see you, theif.

 

[GMaster171]

shameless

(worth it)

Miley Peach is best

 

[1FD]

Top 3 things I hope the Devs look at
1) Characters
2) Gameplay
3) Awesomeness

Should be good for 3.5

 

[Vashimus]

Sorry, they spent the whole development time adding more Masterpieces.

 

[PlateProp]

The most annoying thing about having a beard is when it scratches your neck

Status Update:

Beat Misty, but I gotta go see Bill before I can get around that damn cop...

 

[Soft Serve]

Sorry, they spent the whole development time adding more Masterpieces.

Unlock the demo time limit on masterpieces, hype

 

[RIDLEY is too SMALL]

Unlock the demo time limit on masterpieces, hype

Nintendo would shut down PM so quickly if they did that, lol

 

[F. Blue]

Strongbad now that you've quit the PMBR will the M stand for Melee again?

 

[Vashimus]

Pretty sure he's still PMDT, he just can't have a Back Room banner and a PM Dev Team banner at the same time.

Hylian suffers from the same dilemma.

 

[Strong Badam]

Strongbad now that you've quit the PMBR will the M stand for Melee again?

I am still a member of the PMDT, not sure where you got that idea.

The M never officially stood for Melee, not since late 2009 when the project started. @shanus has mentioned this several times. People saying it's because I changed it to such doesn't make it true.

 

[RelaxAlax]

So the M stands for ...

It's like Project X, except in this circumstance, the only car in the pool is Jigglypuff.

 

[GaretHax]

Lol, you gave up C-stick Attack? Did you discover how deep the rabbit hole of the neutral issue goes?

Currently I can't use footstool at all without my WhammyBar-less D-pad; and generally don't use R at all: so I probably should set it and don't see why you wouldn't either. Unless you want to use the WD OOS with the 2nd trigger's hard press (and possibly with light press now in the Wifi set? By the way they better keep custom buffer in the Wifi set or I'ma scream) that was implemented.

I'm scared of the new landing detection, right now PM has platforms a lot easier to get onto where as Melee you have to be noticeably higher over the platform making it a little bit higher than you have to be in PM to then WL onto one without just air dodging through.

O = Person
---- = Platform

Melee height to WL onto platform

O
-----

PM height to WL onto platform

--O--

Beyond that too, there's all the newly created early aerials from something going on with more air time; which you'll have to say possibly good bye too (Fox's SH Bair AC, Falco's SH Uair AC, Jiggly SH Bair Nair, Marth's SH Bair Fair/Dair/Uair etc. Marth's gonna hurt the most, well probably Diddy too.. THEY ALL ARE) all of which aren't possible in Melee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixZR3-YiMw

SH Bair to Fair/Uair/Dair/Side-b (also WL since Brawl allows AD through IASA) -> All you can do in Melee is SH Bair to.. DJ.... that's BORING, Incredibly dull. Right now people aren't good enough at Early aerials to notice when he and the rest of the cast gets ****ed over back to Melee to play the same way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J176yjTN8#t=90 Bair Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J176yjTN8#t=54 Bair Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyIS-HdUgw Bair Fair/Uair/Side-b (missing Dair?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9EllNfEZ-8#t=867 Bair Uair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk#t=70 Marth Section

Lol, you gave up C-stick Attack? Did you discover how deep the rabbit hole of the neutral issue goes?

Currently I can't use footstool at all without my WhammyBar-less D-pad; and generally don't use R at all: so I probably should set it and don't see why you wouldn't either. Unless you want to use the WD OOS with the 2nd trigger's hard press (and possibly with light press now in the Wifi set? By the way they better keep custom buffer in the Wifi set or I'ma scream) that was implemented.

I'm scared of the new landing detection, right now PM has platforms a lot easier to get onto where as Melee you have to be noticeably higher over the platform making it a little bit higher than you have to be in PM to then WL onto one without just air dodging through.

O = Person
---- = Platform

Melee height to WL onto platform

O
-----

PM height to WL onto platform

--O--

Beyond that too, there's all the newly created early aerials from something going on with more air time; which you'll have to say possibly good bye too (Fox's SH Bair AC, Falco's SH Uair AC, Jiggly SH Bair Nair, Marth's SH Bair Fair/Dair/Uair etc. Marth's gonna hurt the most, well probably Diddy too.. THEY ALL ARE) all of which aren't possible in Melee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixZR3-YiMw

SH Bair to Fair/Uair/Dair/Side-b (also WL since Brawl allows AD through IASA) -> All you can do in Melee is SH Bair to.. DJ.... that's BORING, Incredibly dull. Right now people aren't good enough at Early aerials to notice when he and the rest of the cast gets ****ed over back to Melee to play the same way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J176yjTN8#t=90 Bair Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J176yjTN8#t=54 Bair Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyIS-HdUgw Bair Fair/Uair/Side-b (missing Dair?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9EllNfEZ-8#t=867 Bair Uair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeLklmmYyNk#t=70 Marth Section

I don't think Captain Falcon could SH-Uair DJ aerial in melee either.

 

[Empyrean]

The M stands for mother****ing da bess

 

[MLGF]

Oh, so it's like my tag.
In that it's a random letter that hasn't held any real significance in years.

 

[SpiderMad]

I don't think Captain Falcon could SH-Uair DJ aerial in melee either.

I actually think he could do that one in Melee but I'll have to test, along with SH Bair DJ, but you may be right and it's just SH Bair DJ he could.
There's also Sheik SH double fair or SH bair/fair different aerial she couldn't do in Melee; that seems pretty substantial but I don't play Sheik. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixZR3-YiMw#t=215

And this whole topic though is beyond my current understanding as well even after all my thought and research on it. What's causing this when the IASA times are the same? Something with the over all-height or landing? Should it be kept? I really want to say yes, but you're technically not matching Melee's timings: possibly making the characters feel off from Melee. But who is to say Melee's timings/air heights for the character are their best, especially when just a couple more frames makes Marth able to swing his sword in a dozen more ways? So it requires a lot more analyzing, but I'm the only person to apparently discover this phenomenon and to ever bring it up.

Also made a post about why people should care more about gauging their opinion and expanding their knowledge upon mechanics as few do. http://smashboards.com/threads/tier-list-speculation.331666/page-533#post-17926013

 

[Strong Badam]

Last I checked SHDF was two one frame windows w/ Sheik in PM, and only the first hit frame (with hand above her head still) hits, so it doesn't have full range.

 

[Hylian]

Pretty sure he's still PMDT, he just can't have a Back Room banner and a PM Dev Team banner at the same time.

Hylian suffers from the same dilemma.

RIP my mass of Ribbons x.x.

 

[GaretHax]

Not sure what is causing it, all I know is that SH bair wavelanding with marth is easier and still sexy, sh bair waveland with ganon can lead to a grab, and being able to sh uair shields into DJ dair on the back w/ Falcon is sexy (sh bair --> DJ double-bair with Ganon is cute too). I also feel as if there's some weird stuff made possible with certain characters, but the lines quickly become blurred between feasible, reliable, and possible. That last bit is why I haven't bothered to bring most of this stuff up, I just showed it to people in the local scene, assumed it was just somewhat easier in PM and moved on.

 

[standardtoaster]

you can airdodge out of iasa in brawl/pm. You have to wait for the animation to finish in melee

 

[hotdogturtle]

I had another one of my crazy stupid ideas today. I don't remember what it was right now, but it seems like I come up with something every week when I'm at Smashing Grounds.

@JOE! please assist if you remember what I said.

 

[Hylian]

Switching to purple to celebrate MM3D :D. Will also probably stream MM soon.

 

[Soft Serve]

I just realized the gifs in the newest blogpost about YI:B were all 60 fps and looked glorious.

 

[trash?]

for the first time ever, a competent player took farming simulator seriously, and proceeded to become a millionaire within twenty minutes

granted, when you get down to it being able to instant buy from a lumber yard and sell back for several times over the buying price is pretty obviously hilarious game design in general

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

I'd rather read Naruto than be another piece of garbage brony talking to his pedophile friends about which Madoka character he jacks off to most often

People jack it to PMMM??? That's like jacking it to the Nightmare Before Christmas.

 

[RIDLEY is too SMALL]

People jack it to PMMM??? That's like jacking it to the Nightmare Before Christmas.

There are people that don't jack it to the Nightmare Before Christmas???

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

There are people that don't jack it to the Nightmare Before Christmas???

ಠ_ಠ

 

[Saito]

People jack it to PMMM???

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

People jack it to PMMM??? That's like jacking it to the Nightmare Before Christmas.

Rule 36, dude.

No matter what it is, it's somebody's fetish.

In other news http://www.gamesindustry.biz/jobs/s...-acquisition-executive--12-month-ftc--id73572 So SEGA is looking for someone who knows what talent is. Guess it's cause they themselves couldn't tell good or bad talent if it came up and made them millions one year or ended up almost killing their business another year.

Tragic.

 

[MechWarriorNY]

No, *karmic.