Prima Strategy Guide

[Kuda398]

Now, this is an completely opinionative topic on the Prima Strategy Guide for SSBB which I found "a waste of trees".........yes, I just typed that. The point is I'm very curious as to what all of you thought about the guide. Did you buy it, read it, like it etc.

First off, some might ask why I bought it. I went to the midnight launch at GS and seemed to have a urge to buy it because I'm a fan of SSBB. Continuing the point...

I'd like to point put the flaws now. First, the methods of unlocking "unlockables" is completely primitive. It doesn't even give all three alternative methods of unlocking the Hidden characters. Dumb summarys of each characters move. And the last thing I'll say is that it conflicted with most of the tier lists. I could add a lot more but the point is in MY opinion, it's crap. 'Don't mean to flame but....

Before anyone makes a remark about "why are you asking this now?" or "why didn't you go to smashbrosdojo?", I'm just curious as to what everyone else thinks about it.

 

[bmaster77]

lol is this thread necessary?

 

[uhmuzing]

Really old news, dude. Everyone already knows the Prima Guide is trash. (cool story though)

 

[ndayday]

It was the most hilarious piece of trash I have ever seen.

I mean, it said Lucario had no horizontal recovery.

 

[Aibou]

It was the most hilarious piece of trash I have ever seen.

I mean, it said Lucario had no horizontal recovery.

The fact that they said was good and was bad was the most hilarious thing I saw in there.

At least they got right.

 

[The_Final_Smasher]

This reminds me of this Pokemon Fan Special issue I got at Gamestop...
They said that fire wasn't very effective against Grass and super-effective against water on the type matchup table...
And the advice they give for the best moves to have on the Pokemon was terrible (Charge on Ampharos... WTF!?)

 

[Liquid-117]

Like everybody said, that so called "guide" were nothing more than waste of your time and money. The information it provided were inconsistent. In short: utter trash

 

[Kuda398]

Agreed.....

 

[Kitamerby]

Spinning Kong is the best recovery in the game.

 

[Ledger_Damayn]

I really want to buy it if it's still available just because it'll be worth my $20 to cream myself from pure lulz.

Lol, Prima Games aren't psychic. How would they possibly know what the tier list would look like when even the Smash community after half a year didn't even have an accurate conception of what the tier list should look like. They probably said things like "Snake is difficult to use" and anything along the lines of Ganon not being absolutely useless garbage.

Moreover, I still think the current tier list is really off in some areas.

 

[-Ran]

The claimed that Captain Falcon had the best grab in the game. Of course, who knows how many tiny balance tweaks occurred between the game they had, and the actual release. A scary thought, but what if everything they said was actually accurate to what they played? Lol.

 

[Ledger_Damayn]

The claimed that Captain Falcon had the best grab in the game. Of course, who knows how many tiny balance tweaks occurred between the game they had, and the actual release. A scary thought, but what if everything they said was actually accurate to what they played? Lol.

"Tiny balance tweaks" doesn't equate the different from CF's grab range to DDD, Charizard, or tether grab ranges. That's just laziness >_>.

I usually buy Prima for their Pokemon guides, just so I can have an easy to look at list for where to find wild pokemon or whatever, or levels for evolution or new attacks, but sometimes I read the strategies for gym leaders or whatever for lulz, it's pretty incredible. If I could make the amount of money they make from using a random word generator, I'd be pretty much set for life.

I really want to buy a copy of this thing off the internet now.

 

[Kitamerby]

The claimed that Captain Falcon had the best grab in the game. Of course, who knows how many tiny balance tweaks occurred between the game they had, and the actual release. A scary thought, but what if everything they said was actually accurate to what they played? Lol.

Diddy Kong and Falco's "dair spike" would be broken, and Jigglypuff would apparently "still have what it takes to keep up with the best of them."


I have a feeling they used the Falcon Punch or something along those lines to test weight, because they said that Ivysaur was the lightweight, while Squirtle was actually the midweight.

 

[ru5514n]

Yeah, everyone knows Prima Guide was ********. I think I read in Falcon section that he can reflect projectiles with his side-b. where the hell did that come from? I'm not even mentioning they had Falcon and Peach as top tiers, Marth as the best, Falco as middle, Meta Knight low and Wario, Kirby, Pikachu and Olimar as utter garbage.

P.S. If anybody wants to buy it, I still see it for sale at Barnes and Nobles from time to time.

 

[Kofu]

It also says that Ness lacks a "dair spike", while Lucas's "spike" is quite good (referring to his BAir).

 

[tankzortz]

and you realize the guide was made before the tier list came out.
anyways, guide's garbage anyways if they think oli's bad

 

[LaIotun]

Don't know if this is part of it, but http://imgur.com/3n080.png

 

[Turazrok]

Don't know if this is part of it, but http://imgur.com/3n080.png
Hahaha

I laughed so much at that one. My fave was wario, olimar, kirby, metaknight, and ice clmibers being ranked as bad. It also said the best way to desync with IC's was to chase ice blocks. They even based the rankings off of how good the final smash was XD

 

[GHNeko]

Don't know if this is part of it, but http://imgur.com/3n080.png
Hahaha

Made. My. Night.

 

[GreenFox]

If anyone wants to see how bad it is I'll sell it for cheap what a waste of time/money they had gannon like the same rank as M2K and dedede was rated pretty low grab :/

 

[rPSIvysaur]

How much?

Triangle.

 

[DQP]

prima knows absolutely nothing when it comes to smash, it seemed like they just played through the game and wrote what they thought about it.. but if you think the brawl guide is bad, wait till you see their prime trilogy guide...

 

[stingers]

hey cool, another nc player. you should check out our social thread http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234213 :D and talk to us

 

[Neo Exdeath]

Don't know if this is part of it, but http://imgur.com/3n080.png
Hahaha

Dear lord, that alone makes the guide so bad that it's good.

 

[Ledger_Damayn]

I hope this thread doesn't bump the price of the guide bc I am so totally going to buy one the next time I drive by a gamestop

 

[phantomphungus]

I really want to buy it if it's still available just because it'll be worth my $20 to cream myself from pure lulz.

Lol, Prima Games aren't psychic. How would they possibly know what the tier list would look like when even the Smash community after half a year didn't even have an accurate conception of what the tier list should look like. They probably said things like "Snake is difficult to use" and anything along the lines of Ganon not being absolutely useless garbage.

Moreover, I still think the current tier list is really off in some areas.

When I read it shortly after it came out, I was almost offended... :\ I mean I had only been playing a couple of days and I already knew that Lucario had way more recovery than they said, and that meta knight did NOT suck and that Cpt. Falcon was near horrible... I haven't seen that ol' book anywhere recently, though. The ONE THING that they got right was pointing out that their strategies could easily come outdated and that they actually said "Don't trust us foir everything, just go to Smashboards if you want to become really good." Of course, it's paraphrased a bit, but yea, at least they got that right.

Also, Ledger, WHERE CAN I GET THAT PANDA TEXTURE??? I WANT IT!!

 

[SmashChu]

The fact that they said was good and was bad was the most hilarious thing I saw in there.

This is true in 4vs. Go online and see how many Falcons you see vs how many Meta-Knights you see. Then see who is winning (hint: It's not Meta-Knight)

 

[Ledger_Damayn]

Also, Ledger, WHERE CAN I GET THAT PANDA TEXTURE??? I WANT IT!!

I know, isn't it freaking adorable? Google search it, I can't remember. It's not currently on my SD card, so I can't help you there lol.

I should remind you that Smashboard's first impression of MK was that he was unwieldy, too fast to use, and hard to kill with. Something about Shuttle Loop being "too hard to hit with and too unreliable to use" ... oh the good 'ol days.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Prima is why I don't buy guides anymore ._.;

 

[LiL.Will]

I was a casual player back in the melee days. If it wasn't for that guide I wouldn't have known about smashboards. I'm pretty glad I bought it. But it seriously did suck after I came here and found how to use certain characters.

 

[phantomphungus]

I should remind you that Smashboard's first impression of MK was that he was unwieldy, too fast to use, and hard to kill with. Something about Shuttle Loop being "too hard to hit with and too unreliable to use" ... oh the good 'ol days.

QFT. My friend and I used metaknight in the first few days of Brawl and my friends who are the most casual, out of the forums-scene people I know, started calling him OP. I just stated what I had learned on the boards and how it was hard to kill with him. Hah, now a days we've all switched opinions.

 

[Kitamerby]

Bullet Seed does very little damage, apparently.

 

[Laem]

bump <3

can any1 tell me more ridiculous stuff from this guide, im looking for laughs xD

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

and you realize the guide was made before the tier list came out.

And you realize that the only people who care about the SWF tier list are the people on SWF.

The only reason the guide is any good is that it had the URL for this site in it. That's the only reason I found this place.

 

[Crystanium]

I bought the guide to complete the Sub-Space Emissary. I had 99%, and I needed one more item to get 100%. I don't know where my Prima guide is at now. One word, though: Maria.