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Would be good if there was some security on the poll, because all it takes is a vote spammer to throw it off. I really hope that's not something one of us did for Krystal some, but I could see it happening. I'm really hoping that the Sora votes are legit basically. Like it got posted on his support Facebook page or something. The survey creator could probably get a good feel for if the votes are legit or not maybe.
Totally agree with this. I never vote on straw polls like these because there is no point. Unless the character you voted for is K. Rool or Isaac, you'll never see them near the top.
Nah, he was just spammed by a single person (at a surprisingly fast rate...). I'd disregard the live results for now, and I'll make manual ones hopefully without multiple votes.
How can you tell it was the same person? Is it possible you can remake this poll by any chance?
Not quite what I meant. It's more the fact that each community is going to have their own biases, certain characters that they bandwagon for or others they dislike for reasons that might or might not be valid. With a poll that just pulls from one or two communities, the results are skewed towards their preferences. It ends up being more a sample of the characters they want than what the community as a whole wants.
So a community poll is created just for the sole purpose of voting for one character?
Just before anyone wants to go hate on me just because I'm countering this point over and over, we can all agree Krystal isn't something "controversial" or stuff.
Uh...that's not where they're going with that. What they're pointing out is the hypocrisy behind some of Krystal's detractors. They try to bash her as a character and claim she isn't a viable DLC candidate because of all the erotic art out there of her...despite the fact that there's a lot of erotic art of several characters that are already in the game. Even the furbait card doesn't work when her entire source series is subject to the same things--including Wolf and including both Star Fox characters on the current roster.
You are fine to have your opinion. At least you aren't a complete jerk like most who are against Krystal.
The fact that the way you guys are countering, is basically by directly insulting other fanbases. If those detractors are hypocritical, you guys are replying in a more hypocritical way. That's my point.
So are we not supposed to defend a character we advocate for? Some Krystal detractors give the reason for why Krystal shouldn't be in is because she is furrybait and she has tons of erotic art. This makes no sense because literally every character in Smash probably has a ton of erotic art *cough cough Zero Suit Samus* and most of the furry animals, especially from the Star Fox series, can be furrybait as well. The argument against Krystal for these reasons are not really true so that's why we counter them.
But were not? We're simply stating that what people say are stopping Krystal from being playable, Rule 34, also applies to every other single character in Smash or that people want added to Smash. If you think we are insulting other fan-bases when that is the last thing we as Krystal supports want to do...Then it is simply only you that is looking out to get offended or insulted.
Well, yeah... I don't want to come across as a condescending jerk or anything. That wouldn't be right.
Not in a way that offends other character, at least. I understand the points that Krystal shouldn't be stopped from happening for such reason, and I understand about Zero Suit Samus issues and the furry issues, both being something people mostly aware of.
Sadly I have seen it of those four. ROB least so then the others but there is still a lot for the other three...But that is going way off-topic and a road that I don't want to go down.
Here's the link for the artist http://ukalayla.deviantart.com/art/Star-Fox-Krystal-Renew-541932369 .
The artist actually shows up in this thread occasionally. It's been a while, though...So I noticed this out of random earlier, it isnt complete obviously but.
That's Krayon. Speaking of Krayon, I saw a goofy comment on his post. Some guy
The part about "Krystal haters are gay" is true, but I'm not saying all the haters are like that. Most haters use her as a scapegoat and/or come up with stupid reasons Some guy on Gamefaqs proves that gay furry stuff within the Star Fox fandom. He mentions Krystal, Miyu, Fay, and Katt. It's by this user named Cane.
Let's go by steps:
The problem is that next to no one nowadays cares about the ironically bad concept, which some people defend. It's why many or at least what I witnessed is many saying Assault was better because it had more of a serious tone while still retaining the humor to it, what i'm saying is the ironically cheesy 80s concept no longer works because almost everyone now expects a game to be serious, not that i'm saying it cant have humor, but it's like how I say the puppet thing is irrelevant because no media ever does it except for one instance on Teen Titans Go, but that was parodying the concept as a whole. It's just something that doesnt really work now.
The whole gaming industry is, in fact, moving to more serious stuff, but that doesn't necessarily mean that titles like this don't sell and are unwanted, just remember that one of the most anticipated games of 2015 is the sequel to this:
It was never funny to begin with.
It was when used in the right context, but now it's stale
The point is Nintendo beat it even further in their E3 direct and pretty much proved that Peppy is nothing more than a meme to them. The worst part is, he's the only one out of everyone but Krystal that has a background, even if it was minor. Speaking of Krystals background, i'm surprised they never explored that, it would've been very interesting to know plus it would've helped with the relationship but also her character as well.
Do you know what the reward was in SF 64 for getting a gold medal in every stage? A pair of sunglasses. Hopefully it'll be a little better than that this time, and I'm expecting it from a game that's as dialed in to the single player experience as Zero is. Platinum is usually very, very good with unlockables. The Bayonetta 2 costumes were distinctive and fun, and the Star Fox Easter egg was highly enjoyable. No reason why Zero can't provide something substantial. Give us a new arwing model, or take us to the past and give us a mission with James McCloud and the old Star Fox team. Something that actually impacts the gameplay experience and doesn't feel like a cheap coat of paint.
Star Fox Assault had a better reward for a perfect playthrough of the main campaign
"Haters" come in all forms. Around here and most Smash-centric communities, I think we're mostly dealing with people that don't care about pairings, aren't necessarily "gay furries", and probably despise the notion of gay furry head-canon in their Star Fox as much as they do Krystal.
The novelty of 3D and controllers that rumble (SF 64 was the first game to have this feature) has worn off, so it's now much harder to make a rails shooter that appeals on a mass level. Gameplay, replayability, cringe-free dialogue, soundtrack (see Assault), multiplayer (see Assault), all these things need to be here to reel the lost fans in. Regain their trust by not doing anything wacky or off the wall for the heck of it, and take smart risks like what you did with 64 when you salvaged ideas from Star Fox 2 and introduced new vehicles. That would be my advice. The foundation is there, they just need to incrementally build on it with each new release without changing the genre. They shouldn't reach for the panic button either when the game cracks a million and fizzles out. Stay calm and stay the course if you know the game wasn't rushed and you had a great idea.
