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WhateverTechnically Gen two-ers.
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WhateverTechnically Gen two-ers.
Agreed more or less.The leak thread found data hinting at 5 extra DLC characters. Along with Roy, Ryu and Lucas this means there's two unknown DLC characters. Now here's the interesting part, though I must inform you that from this point on it's all speculation.
Sakurai once said it takes a character about a year to complete. Even if they've got a lot of different teams working on it I don't think we'll see any poll chosen characters for a while especially since the poll ends in October. The speculation is that the 6 characters set up for DLC are chosen before hand and that there's a second wave on the way with poll chosen characters.
This could bode well for Krystal is Wolf is part of the first wave but the sooner he's revealed the better.
The dataminer dipped into the stage/character files, in the original he looked into the music files.
Yes, the 7 stages is new. And correct. Its being assumed that 2 more characters are being added to the roy/ryu/lucas mix. (There are 5 placeholder "marios" after mewtwo) Which was unknown in the original sound file leak. But it is not known whether its just gonna be wolf + ballot winner or two more characters, THEN they dip into the ballot.
If you dont quite understand, there's a wordpress linked in the reddit link that explains better, as i cant explain well haha.
With this data i can see the assurance of wolf and another vet (snake?) being planned pre ballot. If this data is pre ballot, which most assume it is.
Just wanted to know if you guys' thoughts on this to see if she has a shot, knowing this data
Well, it's info that only really raises more questions than it gives answers. I can't really feel anything about it other than to hope for the best. Personally, I'd rather this not mean much because we're not seeing everything.
I honestly believe they have a line-up already in place or else why have the ballot last for six months if you already know what DLC characters they were going to make. I take it after those slots are filled we will have to wait until after October for them to show (one at a time maybe?) who makes the cut.The leak thread found data hinting at 5 extra DLC characters. Along with Roy, Ryu and Lucas this means there's two unknown DLC characters. Now here's the interesting part, though I must inform you that from this point on it's all speculation.
Sakurai once said it takes a character about a year to complete. Even if they've got a lot of different teams working on it I don't think we'll see any poll chosen characters for a while especially since the poll ends in October. The speculation is that the 6 characters set up for DLC are chosen before hand and that there's a second wave on the way with poll chosen characters.
This could bode well for Krystal is Wolf is part of the first wave but the sooner he's revealed the better.
Yeah. Because otherwise, that ballot would have been a waste of time and we voted for nothing. But because of this, I have a feeling that Sakurai is going to consider it based on our votes for Krystal and the same goes for K. Rool and Isaac since we know those are 2 of the highly requested characters that we are aware of and most likely Sakurai knows this. Let's hope for the best here.I honestly believe they have a line-up already in place or else why have the ballot last for six months if you already know what DLC characters they were going to make. I take it after those slots are filled we will have to wait until after October for them to show (one at a time maybe?) who makes the cut.
With the Pre-Ballot and Post-Ballot DLC Krystal's chances are pretty solid that way. If its not and those are the only slots left...Then there isn't much hope. Still, I highly doubt the former would be the case.
True, can't ever have enough Star Fox.If Sakurai reveals Wolf as a character, within the next month,Krystal's chances are increased, and Krystal could potentially jump into the top 5
Don't forget the huge boost we'll get if she shows up in a Star Fox trailer looking awesome.If Sakurai reveals Wolf as a character, within the next month,Krystal's chances are increased, and Krystal could potentially jump into the top 5
I know, I just hope Miyamoto doesn't do something stupidDon't forget the huge boost we'll get if she shows up in a Star Fox trailer looking awesome.
I know the feeling. There's still this part of me that knows there's a slight chance he could ditch her. I've gone over it many times in my head though, and I feel the chances really are slight, but they're there all the same.I know, I just hope Miyamoto doesn't do something stupid
If there are any characters that should be retconned , one of them should be Amanda, she's useless, at least Krystal and Katt are useful, Amanda is a useless love interest, and believe me there are differences between a love interest like Krystal, who has proven to be important to the main plot, and useless love interests like Amanda, who's only purpose for existing is giving Slippy a love interestI know the feeling. There's still this part of me that knows there's a slight chance he could ditch her. I've gone over it many times in my head though, and I feel the chances really are slight, but they're there all the same.
I'm not too quick to pass judgement on these things since I see people do it all the time with Krystal. I don't really know or care about Amanda's character, but I'm not asking for her to be retconned out. They could figure out something for her potentially. Unless you're playing with multiple universes like Zelda, it kind of just feels sloppy to force a retcon. Command does open up the door to being fairly disposable with the way it told it's story though. Admittedly, if Amanda didn't show up in the new Star Fox, I wouldn't bat an eye.If there are any characters that should be retconned , one of them should be Amanda, she's useless, at least Krystal and Katt are useful, Amanda is a useless love interest, and believe me there are differences between a love interest like Krystal, who has proven to be important to the main plot, and useless love interests like Amanda, who's only purpose for existing is giving Slippy a love interest
I doubt it'll happen of Miyamoto removing Krystal from the series. Even he is aware of the fanbase around her which the majority do like her. After all, she's officially part of the series and will stay. If he wanted to get rid of her, he would have done that right after Adventures. But he hasn't and she's been appearing ever since. Despite the endings that Command has, she's still a popular character in the series. Why do you think the Japanese audience have been requesting for Krystal to be a playable character in the Smash series since Brawl. It's not just because she's the most requested character, but also because of Starfox Wii U? Miyamoto, Imamura and everyone at Nintendo knows that. She's pretty much the Starfox version of Peach and Zelda for instance. I have faith she'll be back in SF Wii U for sure. Also I have a feeling that Miyamoto knows what he's doing. This new entry in the Starfox series is something that Miyamoto has been wanting to do since the Wii generation. Once a character like Krystal has established themselves in a franchise, they are there to stay. That is why I believe her chances to be in Smash 4 and in SF Wii U are really good.I know the feeling. There's still this part of me that knows there's a slight chance he could ditch her. I've gone over it many times in my head though, and I feel the chances really are slight, but they're there all the same.
Yeah, I totally get it. Like I said, I've gone over the facts in my head many times and know the chances of Krystal returning are really great. But for all the logic and sense you can make of it, it's still not a certainty. There's that slight chance. I'd say I'm 95% sure she's coming back.I doubt it'll happen of Miyamoto removing Krystal from the series. Even he is aware of the fanbase around her which the majority do like her. After all, she's officially part of the series and will stay. If he wanted to get rid of her, he would have done that right after Adventures. But he hasn't and she's been appearing ever since. Despite the endings that Command has, she's still a popular character in the series. Why do you think the Japanese audience have been requesting for Krystal to be a playable character in the Smash series since Brawl. It's not just because she's the most requested character, but also because of Starfox Wii U? Miyamoto, Imamura and everyone at Nintendo knows that. She's pretty much the Starfox version of Peach and Zelda for instance. I have faith she'll be back in SF Wii U for sure. Also I have a feeling that Miyamoto knows what he's doing. This new entry in the Starfox series is something that Miyamoto has been wanting to do since the Wii generation. Once a character like Krystal has established themselves in a franchise, they are there to stay. That is why I believe her chances to be in Smash 4 and in SF Wii U are really good.
Innovation is what separates Nintendo from the other gaming companies, and I think they understand that. All the other games you mentioned are games that sell on the consoles that care most about pushing processing power and visuals. For Nintendo to be competitive they have to do something different because they can't play the same game of "who's more powerful" that Microsoft and Sony are playing.The problem with Miyamoto is quite simple, he focuses on "innovation" just for the sake of innovation, like the rest of Nintendo, Miyamoto seems to think every game needs a gimmick, some games aren't groundbreaking, but it doesn't matter if the game isn't innovative as long as the game is enjoyable and fun, just look at GTA V, Need for Speed, Last of Us, Skyrim, Fallout 3, or Fallout New Vegas, none of those games were the most innovative, but what they did, they did well. Innovation can be nice, but if innovation is the main focus, other areas lag behind, Nintendo should know that by now, considering how many times they have tried and failed.
The problem with Nintendo is that they try too hard to please everyone, when inevitably some people won't be pleased. I also believe that Nintendo's focus should change from gimmicky hardware, to game innovation, What I mean is focusing on games with fresh innovative concepts, with hardware similar to PS4 and Xbox One for the 3rd Parties. Another problem with Nintendo is that they are out of touch, what worked in the past might not work now, and Nintendo has failed to realize thatInnovation is what separates Nintendo from the other gaming companies, and I think they understand that. All the other games you mentioned are games that sell on the consoles that care most about pushing processing power and visuals. For Nintendo to be competitive they have to do something different because they can't play the same game of "who's more powerful" that Microsoft and Sony are playing.
Likewise, their games have to be different. If they present an experience you can just as easily experience on an Xbox, then they don't have an edge. It's their game design model in general. Even their biggest most popular franchises venture into these realms just to have an edge and be different. I can't blame them for pushing it so much, but I agree that in a lot of cases they should just go with what works. But then they also don't want to be stale either. It can be hard to please fans. Some want the same experience they very first fell in love with while others thirst for something new.
It's funny because getting frustrated that Miyamoto cares too much about innovating isn't that far from being angry he made a Star Fox game like Adventures. People often want different things from their games. I know that some are hoping that Star Fox Wii U is just Star Fox 64 2 and are also frustrated that Miyamoto is working on gimmicks they'll hate, while others are only interested in this new Star Fox game because perhaps this innovation he's working on will finally make Star Fox interesting to them when they've never liked the old ones. And still others might've fallen in love with Star Fox with Adventures and are wondering when that's going to happen again instead of these boring rail shooters. Just so many people to please, heh. I think Miyamoto is trying to keep the stuff people have liked while adding in something new to keep things fresh for existing fans and attract people that aren't fans yet.
And yet, I'm still a hopelessly dedicated Nintendo fan. I guess that makes me someone that should be easy to please, at least relatively. And I guess that means they're more worried about everyone else.The problem with Nintendo is that they try too hard to please everyone, when inevitably some people won't be pleased. I also believe that Nintendo's focus should change from gimmicky hardware, to game innovation, What I mean is focusing on games with fresh innovative concepts, with hardware similar to PS4 and Xbox One for the 3rd Parties. Another problem with Nintendo is that they are out of touch, what worked in the past might not work now, and Nintendo has failed to realize that
I agree entirely. At this point, we've done everyone primarily from Fox's point of view, but I would love to view the story from another character's perspective/mission. I believe that they should all end the same way (no alternate endings Command). And I really can't see them excluding Krystal. The new generation views Krystal as a part of the team...probably a bigger part than Peppy, Slippy, and sometimes Falco depending on the person. They definitely need to work on character development for every character so that each one has more of an identity. Something like that would actually probably garner more fans for specific Star Fox characters as well.To speak for Star Fox specifically, I think Nintendo has done a lot of great things with it but I see the wide open potential to do even better. I've already gone into great detail about all the possibilities in a post a while back now. I hope they explore that side of the franchise. I'm fine with them trying out new ways to play, and there's a good chance I'll really like it honestly, but the thing that would really make me happy is if they focused on depth of play. Co-op, multiplayer, alternate routes for different characters, alternate dialogue, playing as any team member, unique abilities for all the characters, etc..
That underlined part... exactly that. The characters of Star Fox could really use more depth and dimension. I'm not asking for some dramatic story to push them around and force character development that way... I just mean just further building their characters period without story stimulus necessarily. Command was too story heavy and the characters were forced into a linear development that one-dimensionalized them. Ironic with the alt ending and all, but really every character followed a predictable path completely determined by the events of the game. True multi-dimensional character development occurs in the trivial moments. Just simple dialogue during "normal" scenes. I went on and on about this a week or two ago, so I'll hold off on getting wordy. You get the gist. Heck you're the one that brought it back up!I agree entirely. At this point, we've done everyone primarily from Fox's point of view, but I would love to view the story from another character's perspective/mission. I believe that they should all end the same way (no alternate endings Command). And I really can't see them excluding Krystal. The new generation views Krystal as a part of the team...probably a bigger part than Peppy, Slippy, and sometimes Falco depending on the person. They definitely need to work on character development for every character so that each one has more of an identity. Something like that would actually probably garner more fans for specific Star Fox characters as well.
I can't see much of a Co-Op sadly because of splitscreening while piloting is never very friendly in my opinion. Also the internet connection for Nintendo wouldn't result in the most fluid play. Though they could probably swing a multiplayer which would be awesome. I would love to play Krystal and pilot and Arwing to victory. I really wish they would stop trying to fight her history in Adventures and let her flourish from that storyline. Have her adopt her staff more readily and play more into her telepathic abilities.
I hope you mean in terms of sci-fi action and not having their backs glued to a chest high wall for the whole game.I be!ijeve rhat Star Fox could be Nintendo's answer to Mass Effect or Gears of War
Whoa man, let's not attack what happens to be my favorite series. lol. Go at Mass Effect, but leave Gears out of this! Also, let's be clear before I jump back to Star Fox...Only noobs spend even a quarter of the game on a wall (unless we're talking story mode).I hope you mean in terms of sci-fi action and not having their backs glued to a chest high wall for the whole game.
I could get behind a Mass Effect styled RPG Star Fox but instead of the goddamn Mako we get the Land Master.Guys, what I meant by similar to Mass Effect and Gears of War, is that they will play similar to those games
That'd be a bit of a departure, though, gameplay-wise. Star Fox has always been mainly about the space battles; any on-foot stuff supplements it. I'd be okay with the idea as a side game, as a spinoff or gaiden game of some kind the way Adventures was.Guys, what I meant by similar to Mass Effect and Gears of War, is that they will play similar to those games
Actyally it could be like AssaultThat'd be a bit of a departure, though, gameplay-wise. Star Fox has always been mainly about the space battles; any on-foot stuff supplements it. I'd be okay with the idea as a side game, as a spinoff or gaiden game of some kind the way Adventures was.
...Although if we're getting another side game I'd rather it be one in the style of Adventures that improves on what it did...
Yet four FE characters and three KI characters are fine with you?I'd be okay with Krystal if Wolf wasn't getting in. But four Star Fox characters seems like too much to me.
Five FE characters, if Roy happens to make it in.Yet four FE characters and three KI characters are fine with you?
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Absolutely not! But right now we're not sure how many more DLC characters are going to get in. We might have a very finite amount.
Hard to say. But it doesn't necessarily mean that Wolf's near-inevitable return automatically rules Krystal out. Especially with how much support she has already, and doubly so if she looks awesome in the Star Fox U trailer at E3.@ IanTheGamer
Absolutely not! But right now we're not sure how many more DLC characters are going to get in. We might have a very finite amount.