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Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

Demented Dex

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Does anyone know if the alleged leaked pictures are supposed to be from the Japanese version? If they are, then the names of some of the roster's characters don't match the names from the official site(s).
 

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I don't trust leaks. As an artist I know how easy these are to fake.
 

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If... if you guys insist.

Ken, the King of Smash, has known about most of the roster for quite a while. He's been keeping it under wraps for good reason, I suppose. I didn't make a huge note about it until now.

This much, I didn't worry about. Until...

I inferenced that he has had connections---there's no way someone could figure all that out on their own.

Well, there's this other spot of information that has been existing online for a while. Unfortunately, those who are exposed to it aren't allowed to specifically detail it to others, as per the request of the poeple who are not trying to create a massive scene. I can't even say where the information is fostered, exactly. Heed my words, what I say is the truth---at least as I understand it. This was the part that was new to me, and I then added 2 and 2 together---well, you get the picture.

Admittedly, there's the slim chance that this collective string of knowledge isn't the whole piece. There could be more... which would be good for us. But it's very unlikely.

There's a chance that the current leak (which wasn't the source of my sudden despair) has been forged to reflect the current string of knowledge, rather than being the entirety.

This slim possibility relies on the idea that not all playtesters have reported on their findings, and that maybe, just maybe, there are more playtesters who have different builds of the game that we are unaware of. And maybe, from these other playtesters, there are more characters in the game.

That is all I can say. I'm sorry if I sound vague in some areas. I keep my promises close.

That said, I don't think I will return unless... something happens. Or, the game is released, and all is said and done.

This has been a great ride, guys. I enjoyed my experience speculating with all of you.
Could I ask you one last question possibly? I'm just wondering if there is any relevancey between this new leak and the information you have learned?
 

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Okay, so I come back and all hope is lost ?

Might someone be so kind as to enlighten me as to what happened ? I keep hearing leak stuff and DLC leaked as well, but... What's this all about ?
 

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It's fake, 4chan is untrustworthy, Mario having seven reps is stupid, rendering errors, veterans as DLC, Duck Hunt Dog is a horrible choice for a retro character
 
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If... if you guys insist.

Ken, the King of Smash, has known about most of the roster for quite a while. He's been keeping it under wraps for good reason, I suppose. I didn't make a huge note about it until now.

This much, I didn't worry about. Until...

I inferenced that he has had connections---there's no way someone could figure all that out on their own.

Well, there's this other spot of information that has been existing online for a while. Unfortunately, those who are exposed to it aren't allowed to specifically detail it to others, as per the request of the poeple who are not trying to create a massive scene. I can't even say where the information is fostered, exactly. Heed my words, what I say is the truth---at least as I understand it. This was the part that was new to me, and I then added 2 and 2 together---well, you get the picture.

Admittedly, there's the slim chance that this collective string of knowledge isn't the whole piece. There could be more... which would be good for us. But it's very unlikely.

There's a chance that the current leak (which wasn't the source of my sudden despair) has been forged to reflect the current string of knowledge, rather than being the entirety.

This slim possibility relies on the idea that not all playtesters have reported on their findings, and that maybe, just maybe, there are more playtesters who have different builds of the game that we are unaware of. And maybe, from these other playtesters, there are more characters in the game.

That is all I can say. I'm sorry if I sound vague in some areas. I keep my promises close.

That said, I don't think I will return unless... something happens. Or, the game is released, and all is said and done.

This has been a great ride, guys. I enjoyed my experience speculating with all of you.
Well all right then.

(I still think we should wait for more evidence to see if the leak is real or not. Everyone can claim its real & such but I'd rather wait for something like a character reveal. Until then, we should get back on topic....don't want mods to warn us)
 

IanTheGamer

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Well all right then.

(I still think we should wait for more evidence to see if the leak is real or not. Everyone can claim its real & such but I'd rather wait for something like a character reveal. Until then, we should get back on topic....don't want mods to warn us)
Fair enough, I really think there will be a Star Fox reveal trailer soon, all the evidence really points to it, (4chan is untrustworthy, this is Gematsu all over again)
 

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Fair enough, I really think there will be a Star Fox reveal trailer soon, all the evidence really points to it, (4chan is untrustworthy, this is Gematsu all over again)
Yeah your right. This does remind me of Gematsu all over again. Also the leaked pictures have way too many discrepancies to be passed off as real imo.

Agreed Sakurai is definitely hiding something regarding Star Fox because they're keeping Fox's custom move options a mystery and not much information has been revealed for the new Star Fox stage. I smell something fishy and its not Sakurai's sushi.
 

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If it's really true... Then... Doctor Mario, really ? The only character I like in this leak is Duck Hunt Dog... But there's always DLC ! Does it take that long to make a character ?
 

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If it's really true... Then... Doctor Mario, really ? The only character I like in this leak is Duck Hunt Dog... But there's always DLC ! Does it take that long to make a character ?
We really don't know if this leak is true or not unless Sakurai reveals something relevant to the leaked photos. As of right now I believe they're fake imo because as I said before they're too many discrepancies for these photos to be legitimately real.
 

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I'll keep this short:

I'm not gonna simply take in this "leak" as facts (like more than half the people on miiverse), I'm not so gullible. A LOT of things just look off to me. No names, character position, and more. This was mentioned too... I'll post the link to it anyway: http:// i.4cdn.org/v/1408510814750.png

I'm not throwing in the towel. I still think Krystal has a good chance of being a playable character. I take all "leaks" very, very lightly (even if it has characters I want as playables). As for this current "leak" ...I don't believe it's true at all. There's just too many problems with it.
 

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I'll keep this short:

I'm not gonna simply take in this "leak" as facts (like more than half the people on miiverse), I'm not so gullible. A LOT of things just look off to me. No names, character position, and more. This was mentioned too... I'll post the link to it anyway: http:// i.4cdn.org/v/1408510814750.png

I'm not throwing in the towel. I still think Krystal has a good chance of being a playable character. I take all "leaks" very, very lightly (even if it has characters I want as playables). As for this current "leak" ...I don't believe it's true at all. There's just too many problems with it.
Exactly not to mention, 4chan is untrustworthy,
 

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Plus in one of the screenshots Shulk seems to be performing Ike's jab. At first I was convinced because of Duck Hunt Dog's picture but now I feel more at ease.

Plus, expecting the worst is kind of the best move to make at this point. I don't want to keep my hopes high only for them to be dashed when it's time for the big reveal.
 

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I'll keep this short:

I'm not gonna simply take in this "leak" as facts (like more than half the people on miiverse), I'm not so gullible. A LOT of things just look off to me. No names, character position, and more. This was mentioned too... I'll post the link to it anyway: http:// i.4cdn.org/v/1408510814750.png

I'm not throwing in the towel. I still think Krystal has a good chance of being a playable character. I take all "leaks" very, very lightly (even if it has characters I want as playables). As for this current "leak" ...I don't believe it's true at all. There's just too many problems with it.
I'm seriously not trying to ruin everyone's fun but the line argument is irrelevant now. It's present in the demo build of the game. As bad as I hate to say it for Krystal anyways this isn't looking good for her. You guys should try to catch up on it all in the leak thread. Yes I'm aware it's long as hell but it's got the evidence. I've been following it very closely today.

EDIT: Also this isn't exactly the place to be discussing said leak so we ought to stick to the thread's purpose: Krystal and if you wanna argue the leak, I gave you the place to go. I want Krystal as much as anyone else here if not more but... I'll leave it at this... Also @ Shorts Shorts there could be Krystal DLC in the future who knows but for now this is it.
 
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The leak isnt like any other leaks its been all but confirmed. We have renders that at BEST have "similar" older ones floating around the internet, and at worst are completely unique. We have a plethera of images, and the leak's tomodachi symbol had a never before room shown on it that was revealed today with the coro coro scans.

THERE IS an older rumor going around that has pretty much the identicle list of characters (from last month) but with Dixie, Ridley, and Mewtwo as well. So here hoping ~

Krystal ain't playable guys. But its okay.
 

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Well, speaking if the leak was true.

Then Krystal would pretty much be at the top of the request list of DLC content, right ? So it isn't that bad...

Right ?
 

Weavel

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Well, speaking if the leak was true.

Then Krystal would pretty much be at the top of the request list of DLC content, right ? So it isn't that bad...

Right ?
The leak isn't true, its fake. I feel absolutely no fear towards it. There is already way to much stuff working against it.
 

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The leak isn't true, its fake. I feel absolutely no fear towards it. There is already way to much stuff working against it.
Just like the Wolf/ROB leak?

Or the Greninja/Halucha leak?

Or the Fairy Leak?
 

ImOnlyHereToTalkStarFox

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The leak isnt like any other leaks its been all but confirmed. We have renders that at BEST have "similar" older ones floating around the internet, and at worst are completely unique. We have a plethera of images, and the leak's tomodachi symbol had a never before room shown on it that was revealed today with the coro coro scans.

THERE IS an older rumor going around that has pretty much the identicle list of characters (from last month) but with Dixie, Ridley, and Mewtwo as well. So here hoping ~

Krystal ain't playable guys. But its okay.
What's with you. Nothing about this is confirmed. When you see sakurai reveal any of this then you should fear this but at this point there is no reason.
 
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I'm honestly with Shorts here, my only hope is that future DLC will incorporate her... that or we get a game changing render of a character listed in the leak that looks totally different from the leak. That's the only thing that will kill it for sure I think.
 

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Maybe because it's against the rules to derail this or any other character thread with general leak talk. On that note, I'm actually sifting through every post not having to do with Ridley so much as them just refuting leaks/lamenting it or this thread in general.

That goes double for any posts going forward. I've been running around putting out fires everywhere, but anybody who thinks they don't have to follow said rules are in for a rude awakening.

Keep it Ridley related at all costs or get warned. Or just don't post. **** is only going to get more hectic from here on out. Personally, I'm not one to quit just because the going gets tough.
Btw should stop talking about leaks now.
 

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Tomorrows POTD might shed some light on this leak in terms of proving it either true or false. Right know it seems every ones up in arms with this leak. I still have faith that Krystal could possibly make it in. This leak is just a bump in the road on the path known as making it into the roster.
 

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I feel this leak is both fake and true at the same time.
I really don't like leaks like that, I prefer clarity.

So I guess waiting is the best option there, no need to infer facts from shoddy pictures.

And like I said, if it's true, then we'll probably get Krystal as DLC anyways.
 
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Weavel

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Off topic leak talk/Warning Received
Maybe you guys should go read about the leak more? it reeks of bull****. People pulled the same **** with marvel vs capcom 3 and it looked legit and professional as hell but they were lies! Wake the **** up!
 

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I've been doing just that actually, lol.

But back to Krystal, I remember that some of Fox's custom moves couldn't be shown to the public. Does anyone fear he might have the staff as special moves, or do you all think only Palutena (I wonder why her... *sarcasm*) and the Mii have three different options per move ?
 

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I feel like this reddit thread has more than enough to disprove this "leak"
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2e1rpo/psa_the_leak_is_fake_proof_inside/
I mean just look at this

There's no way in hell that's a coincidence

I can't believe that even after gematsu people are still trusting leaks
My philosophy is to let this leak confirm something substantial before giving it credence... You know, the same standard we've been applying to every other leak? The next veteran/newcomer reveal should make or break it.

I've been doing just that actually, lol.

But back to Krystal, I remember that some of Fox's custom moves couldn't be shown to the public. Does anyone fear he might have the staff as special moves, or do you all think only Palutena (I wonder why her... *sarcasm*) and the Mii have three different options per move ?
I don't think Fox's custom moves will use Krystal's staff. My prediction is that they will involve changes to the properties of his blaster and some of his other B moves, but who knows? Perhaps he'll get his Adventures abilities. I wasn't expecting Mega Man to get Beat.
 
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I think we have bigger things to worry about than if Krystal doesn't show up in SSB4 such as the new Star Fox for Wii U. We should be paying attention to that (But this thread will eventually be locked so...yeah)
 
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Why do they eventually lock up these threads ? It's too bad since I enjoy discussing with you all.
Cause it'll be the end of character discussion for Smash 4. No point in continuing when the game will be out & the character's fates will already be revealed.

It can pretty much serve as a monument of the thread from the beginning to the end & how a lot has changed...& of course, people will be judging the fanbase

And besides, even if Krystal doesn't show up, there will eventually be mods...and she will probably become one for Palutena (Wouldn't surprise me)
 
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Cause it'll be the end of character discussion for Smash 4. No point in continuing when the game will be out & the character's fates will already be revealed.

It can pretty much serve as a monument of the thread from the beginning to the end & how a lot has changed...& of course, people will be judging the fanbase

And besides, even if Krystal doesn't show up, there will eventually be mods...and she will probably become one for Palutena (Wouldn't surprise me)
But with DLC as a possibility do they have to close?
 

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I guess so, but it could become the general Krystal discussion thread or whatever. ^^

EDIT : TheDarkKnightNoivern nailed it.
 
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Let's just hope that the leak is debunked, seriously after the Gematsu leak was a hoax, people would learn , but that's besides the point, I guarantee you if SF gets a fourth rep, it will be Krystal
 
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Hey I'm sure the mods are aware of DLC and such maybe they'll keep this thread alive for DLC's sake. :ohwell:
But with DLC as a possibility do they have to close?
Depends on the outcome. There may be DLC, there may not be DLC. Nobody knows & we should wait for the answer

I guess so, but it could become the general Krystal discussion thread or whatever. ^^

EDIT : TheDarkKnightNoivern nailed it.
True, I'm just lookin at Pre-Brawl experience. I'll be hanging around Starfox-Online for some SF character discussion (Especially since its been quiet lately & I've been there for years)
 
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Let's just hope that the leak is debunked, seriously after the Gematsu leak was a hoax, people would learn , but that's besides the point, I guarantee you if SF gets a fourth rep, it will be Krystal
I hope so, Slippy would be so underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, I like the character, but I feel Krystal fits so much better in SSB.
 

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Remember 4chan is the LEAST trustworthy site on the interwebs, and that 4chan have been known to troll, , so yeah I still believe that Krystal will be in SSB4, until she's deconfirmed by Sakurai himself, NOT by Gematsu, not by 4Chan, you guys need to not give up hope, if I may quote Peppy "Never Give Up", and Yogi Berra " It ain't over until it's over "
 
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