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Pretty in pink or true in blue, Krystal for Sm4sh!

Princess Toady

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Falco is okay in Brawl, but he still looks a little weird. Maybe because the Starfox characters seem to have a huge head compared to their body ?
 

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I'm not being over sensitive, this is Krystal's support thread, if he said it anywhere else I wouldn't have cared, as long as it was in the appropriate thread. I've said this so many times but this is a SUPPORT thread. Where people who support her can talk about her. BandanaWaddleDee made it VERY clear that he doesn't support her, so I told him he shouldn't be in this thread. Simple as that.

Assault. Easily her best design.
You shouldn't have to support a character in order to discuss him/her. Is discussing the pros and cons of a newcomer not allowed at all?
 

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The tribal look Krystal had in Adventures appealed to me. It's so far off from what one would expect to see in a Star Fox game, I can't help but find it interesting. Her tattoos are also pretty cool, though I would never get one myself. I hate needles.
Yeah it's cool however I kinda found it...it just rubbed me in the wrong way is all I can say (I might go back and play adventures but not yet)
 

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Jeez people I'm sorry for having an opinion. I would have posted it in the Leon support thread, but that place is as good as dead

I was NOT being rude. I was just stating my preferences
I read that conversation.

You are allowed to express ypur opinion and I apologize for any rude remarks that were passed to you. However, and this is just some friendly advice, just be careful if you're not going to support the character on their thread. I understand if you don't want her in, or if you don't think she's likely, but you will be a victim by others if you come in here and express which character you would rather have.

Just a little advice, please don't hold this argument against the supporters, because we do want to hear your opinion. Just be careful in how you address it. I don't like seeing bad blood over something as innocent as character discussion.
 

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You shouldn't have to support a character in order to discuss him/her. Is discussing the pros and cons of a newcomer not allowed at all?
Expressing your opinion is good and well, but when you briefly state it and leave it at that, you don't give us much to work with. If you were to say you aren't in favor of the idea of Krystal and that was all, how could we turn that into a discussion? Obviously, one of us would need to ask you why and if we did that, it would probably be perceived as some form of being defensive or insecure.
 

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Geez, if I were going to any thread just to say 'I don't want the character you support, I'd rather have every character in the series before yours', and were repeating that fact 3-4 times, I would also be scandalized to be called out as a troll !

:troll:
 
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if she got an all new design for Smash. They did that with the other Star Fox reps in Brawl, and Fox's design this time around is based on his Brawl design.

And I'm pretty sure we wouldn't see her Adventures design, considering it might push the envelope of the ESRB's clam of "mild suggestive themes".
I would like something like this
 

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You shouldn't have to support a character in order to discuss him/her. Is discussing the pros and cons of a newcomer not allowed at all?
What? I didn't say that wasn't allowed. BandanaWaddleDee wasn't trying to discuss the pros and cons... Did you read his post? There were no pros, or cons, listed on his post.
 

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Assault should be her costume hands down

Fox basically looks the same from Brawl to Wii U. Hit outfit keeps the color schemes and same acessories.
 

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I'm also going to say that Krystal should have her Assault costume as her default. I think it fits better with the aesthetic of the other Star Fox characters. However, like others have stated, her Adventures costume should definitely be an alt.

By the way, has anyone played the fan-game SSB Crusade? That's what made me jump on the Krystal support train. She was already one of my favorite Star Fox characters, but I didn't think about her potential in Smash until I played Crusade. While I think I would make her focus more on her staff abilities, they gave her a mix of staff attacks and weapons from Assault.
 

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Easy! Krystal calls for the pteranodon she was riding at the start of StarFox adventures and starts off in front of the camera kinda like Snakes Grenade Launcher, then starts firing explosive blasts for her staff.
It's a CloudRunner,
Hmm if she has a final smash...you know idk....maybe like something with the staff like create a tornado or something
I have a few options:
Krazoa Release: Where she releases all seven Krazoa spirits, the Krazoa follow everyone on the battlefield except her, for 10 seconds, touching a Krazoa spirit is an instant KO,
CloudRunner Assault,What Ghastmine just said,
Krazoa possession: In which a Krazoa spirit flies into her, her eyes turn purple, the spirit heals her completely, while drastically increasing her attack damage,
Krazoa Blade: Krystal summons two blades, which go across the stage, anyone hit directed by the blades, is KO'd
 

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Admittedly I'm not a big fan of Krystal, but I want her in the game now. It's depressing how NONE of the female characters in this game are anthropomorphic. And no, Jigglypuff doesn't count. I'm sick of the princesses and pretty white girls.
 

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Admittedly I'm not a big fan of Krystal, but I want her in the game now. It's depressing how NONE of the female characters in this game are anthropomorphic. And no, Jigglypuff doesn't count. I'm sick of the princesses and pretty white girls.
Well robin (female version) is probally our only one so far that isn't what you said however krystal or dixie kong might be some that would be cool.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but Krystal is a particular protector of Nature, right?

I question this because if this is true then she would fit in a trailer perfectly along side Lip, Olimar, and Mewtwo on the good guy side.

In terms of villains, they would face: Bowser, King Dedede and Bandanna Dee.

What do you guys think?

I will try to make a Trailer depiction in the "Post your character reveal trailer" Thread.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but Krystal is a particular protector of Nature, right?

I question this because if this is true then she would fit in a trailer perfectly along side Lip, Olimar, and Mewtwo on the good guy side.

In terms of villains, they would face: Bowser, King Dedede and Bandanna Dee.

What do you guys think?

I will try to make a Trailer depiction in the "Post your character reveal trailer" Thread.
As far as I rember her parents where killed,she's a warrior of some sort for senoria (is that what it's called?) That's really all I can recall but if we get a villains trailer it's gonna have ridley so remove lip and olimar with falco and Samus and there you go...
 
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As far as I rember her parents where killed,she's a warrior of some sort for senoria (is that what it's called?) That's really all I can recall but if we get a villains trailer it's gonna have ridley so remove lip and olimar with falco and Samus and there you go...
That makes sense. My initial plan was to have Krystal on recon duty to recover a rare type of flower/plant to bring back to the Star Fox crew for inspection with Bowser and King Dedede fighting for the land to make new castles in.
 

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About her moveset, I would prefer what I created with a mix of Cities' ideas. I LOVE the idea of the two guns being her down smash.

Does anyone know if SSB Crusade would work on a Mac?
 

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Krystal has so much haters sad thing is there excuse is that she was in the bad games (adventures I had fun with and the world was cool,I played some assault loved ground combat ands the classic arwing gameplay,command haven't played but I likely would hate it) I mean she's the last star fox character wanted really slippy is hella annoying,star wolf crew...not another one for now they usually aren't important,peppy...no just no...so if you get what I'm saying she's really the only star fox candidate left that isnt a clone.
 

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Krystal has so much haters sad thing is there excuse is that she was in the bad games (adventures I had fun with and the world was cool,I played some assault loved ground combat ands the classic arwing gameplay,command haven't played but I likely would hate it) I mean she's the last star fox character wanted really slippy is hella annoying,star wolf crew...not another one for now they usually aren't important,peppy...no just no...so if you get what I'm saying she's really the only star fox candidate left that isnt a clone.
Many of her haters have a habit of grasping at straws when they want to list reasons to exclude her from Smash. They usually say:

- She's bland/boring.
- She ruined the Star Fox series.
- She's furry bait.
- She's not a true Star Fox character.
- She's likely to be another clone of Fox (Landmaster final smash included. They claim that if Wolf, someone who isn't even on the team, can make use of a Landmaster, then she'll most likely use one as well).
- Smash Bros has enough females on the roster now.
- She isn't important enough.
- With the new game coming, and no current sign of whether or not the series will be rebooted, there's no confirmation that she'll even be in the new game, therefore her chances of being included in Smash are slim to none.
- Smash Bros doesn't need more Star Fox characters, considering how "dead" the series has been until recently, and how it's not one of Nintendo's top three money-making franchises.
- Katt Monroe is a better character because she's been in the series longer.

Every single one of these points against her inclusion have been debunked or at the very least, argued against with good reasoning.

I apologize in advance if these cons were already brought up, and I also apologize if these points somehow hurt anyone's hopes for Krystal's chances. I just found them to be so absurd that they wouldn't/shouldn't make any supporters here rethink their admiration for her.
 
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Krystal has so much haters sad thing is there excuse is that she was in the bad games (adventures I had fun with and the world was cool,I played some assault loved ground combat ands the classic arwing gameplay,command haven't played but I likely would hate it) I mean she's the last star fox character wanted really slippy is hella annoying,star wolf crew...not another one for now they usually aren't important,peppy...no just no...so if you get what I'm saying she's really the only star fox candidate left that isnt a clone.
I agree with you on the haters. I've probably said this a few times in this thread, but when I started getting involved in Smash speculation after Smash 4 was first announced in 2011, I was completely shocked to find how large Krystal's hatebase is in the Smash and Star Fox communities. I loved Assault, and I liked Adventures as a standalone game. When Assault came out, I liked how Krystal joined the Star Fox team. She was finally given her chance to shine and take an active role, and I preferred her to Peppy (I couldn't stand him in SF64). So, when I discovered the massive hatebase for Krystal and Assault, it felt like a giant slap to the face. I couldn't believe that I had such a drastically different experience than the majority of the Star Fox fanbase.
 

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Admittedly I'm not a big fan of Krystal, but I want her in the game now. It's depressing how NONE of the female characters in this game are anthropomorphic. And no, Jigglypuff doesn't count. I'm sick of the princesses and pretty white girls.
Even though Wii Fit Trainer is technically "white", she looks Asian.
 
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Krystal has so much haters sad thing is there excuse is that she was in the bad games (adventures I had fun with and the world was cool,I played some assault loved ground combat ands the classic arwing gameplay,command haven't played but I likely would hate it) I mean she's the last star fox character wanted really slippy is hella annoying,star wolf crew...not another one for now they usually aren't important,peppy...no just no...so if you get what I'm saying she's really the only star fox candidate left that isnt a clone.
isn't a clone?? how would you know? she doesn't have a moveset in Smash Bros for you to judge like Falco and Wolf. So don't assume she wouldn't be one.
 
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