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Pound 4 Matchup Testing

stingers

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It works, its good. It wasn't known before, at least to me. I'm sure CO18 has known about it for a year cuz he's ****ing weird
 

CO18

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It works, its good. It wasn't known before, at least to me. I'm sure CO18 has known about it for a year cuz he's ****ing weird
What???? If anything, youre talking about seibrik. I hardly know **** about anything lol. I just use my instincts
 

Commander_Beef

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yeah beef's good I actually liked his tournament matches videos his playstyle is similar to mine.
I love you all too, no homo. I need to see more of your matches Ling Ling and seeing if our playstyles are actually the same. They may be similar. It would be cool to see that we would have the same playstyles along with us being a white King Dedede :). Got some links to matches I haven't seen before?

And about the technique... I didn't fully understand it but, is it just hopping enough to where we won't get lag, or is it an actual cancel in lag of our down air in which it will look like King Dedede doesn't move when hitting the ground?
 

Zip.

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I love you all too, no homo. I need to see more of your matches Ling Ling and seeing if our playstyles are actually the same. They may be similar. It would be cool to see that we would have the same playstyles along with us being a white King Dedede :). Got some links to matches I haven't seen before?

And about the technique... I didn't fully understand it but, is it just hopping enough to where we won't get lag, or is it an actual cancel in lag of our down air in which it will look like King Dedede doesn't move when hitting the ground?
You know...you could have just took that to pm's x_x
 

Ling Ling

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I love you all too, no homo. I need to see more of your matches Ling Ling and seeing if our playstyles are actually the same. They may be similar. It would be cool to see that we would have the same playstyles along with us being a white King Dedede :). Got some links to matches I haven't seen before?

And about the technique... I didn't fully understand it but, is it just hopping enough to where we won't get lag, or is it an actual cancel in lag of our down air in which it will look like King Dedede doesn't move when hitting the ground?
I'll try to record some of my matches of the next tourney that aren't vs Excel's peach lol

I'll post this short vid so all D3 can see it for themselves

The tech should look something like this

http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn242/0LingLing0/?action=view&current=LingLingtech-1.flv
 

OMG H4X

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word up, thanks for posting ling ling

edit: just figured out how to pull it off! good ****!
 

∫unk

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thats already known ling ling but its good anyway... **** at pound 4! i like your ddd

its useful for ppl whose full hop d-air doesn't hit the smaller characters well... example metaknight.

but you are rarely in a situation where you want to jump in the air while metaknight is on the ground.

watch the japanese ddd's im telling you guys lol they've advanced ddd really far you have to REALLY pay attention to the minute details

example: they'll powershield something on a platform instantly drop and grab someone... you know how amazing that is if you can do that consistently
 

CRASHiC

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Ban Smashville or FD based on your preference, downair OOS as he attempts to go from lazer pressure to grab or a DACUS. CP Brinstar. /cookie cutter advice against Falco. Didn't watch, might want to take it to the Falco boards and see if they see any faults in him.
 

Jupz

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Yeah I'm reasonably good at the matchup. Basically go for a lot of grabs in the matchup because its our best way of racking damage. If our back is to him Bair OOS into a jump or Dair or something, don't land because its easier punished. Use a lot of Fullhop Dairs (not Dair camping, just use them on the ground OOS), because his fave mixups on the ground are jab and grab and so he will usually jab to test your reaction, if you shield he will cancel it into a grab and if you spotdodge expecting the grab he will just continue the jab. Buffer Dtilt out of his grab. Practice Utilting the phantasm. Its easy when hes recovering but it can be hard to predict when he just IAP's away. DI good and he won't be killing you till 150 with Usmash lol.
 

stingers

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brinstar is actually a really good falco stage. ACTUALLY people CP me in tournament to brinstar and I PICK falco when I wasn't falco before. i 2 stocked a powerranked wario in NC with falco on brinstar...take him somewhere else unless you're sure the falco doesn't know what he's doing lol
 

Laem

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the outcome of dedede vs falco is in falco's hands: The more manly he decides to be, the more its likely he's gonna lose.
 

DMG

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You shouldn't beat Wario as Falco on Brinstar. I'm sorry but he did it wrong, and I of all people would know lol.
 

Meta_Sonic64

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I want to see how to handle the match-up between D3 vs TL. I have trouble with this match-up due to lack of experience, but I also dk what to do exactly besides grab, bair, and etc. I usually have to play Hyro in almost all tourneys, so this would really help me.
 

DMG

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Wario vs Dedede

Wario's advantage

Discuss
 

DMG

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No, overall.

6/4 Wario's favor.

I have a secret.
 

CRASHiC

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If you have to keep it a secret for it to work then it is not a valid matchup ratio and is something that can be countered.
 

DMG

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Wario Chain Grab.

Tested it myself. It is legit.

Troll mode not engaged.
 

DMG

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Like I said, tested it and it gets the DMG stamp of approval.
 

DMG

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It's complicated. Like the way I see it, it's like a Reverse Pivot grab facing forward. Almost as if you stutter step a grab forward, but more complicated than that.
 
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