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[Xivii]

I'm not inconsistent. You just shouldn't be rearwarded for bad play. I will do everything in my power to make sure you aren't shot.

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

yea mah *****

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I'm not inconsistent. You just shouldn't be rearwarded for bad play. I will do everything in my power to make sure you aren't shot.

Deffo scum, please shoot

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Oh btw, intentionally trolly laundry has left the game. I'm serious on this, zen is the scummiest person in the game right now and I would seriously advise his shot.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@bot request votecount

 

[MODBOT]

(2) #hbc | laundry: #hbc | zen, #hbc | red ryu
(1) #hbc | soup: #hbc | laundry
(1) potassium: #hbc | ѕoup
(0) #hbc | zen:
(0) #hbc | red ryu:
(0) cashmoneydollabills:
(0) #hbc | mac:

Not voting: CASHMONEYDOLLABILLS, #HBC | Mac, #HBC | soup, Potassium

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

MAH ****** MAC N MODBOT IN DA CLUTCH!!

now introducing modbot the votecount machine menace. while votes dont actually do **** from a mechanical view im sure summa yall ****** is clever enough to wrangle somethin outta it. this is also to put the ***** into its beta phase in its first real game

us ****** is doin somethin that we often dont. we makin history in dis ***** ******

 

[MODBOT]

(2) #hbc | laundry: #hbc | zen, #hbc | red ryu
(1) #hbc | soup: #hbc | laundry
(1) potassium: #hbc | ѕoup
(0) #hbc | zen:
(0) #hbc | red ryu:
(0) cashmoneydollabills:
(0) #hbc | mac:

Not voting: CASHMONEYDOLLABILLS, #HBC | Mac, #HBC | soup, Potassium

 

[#HBC | Mac]

don't mean to derail the thread, but modbot is having some issues following multiple threads but i'm workin on it

plz excuse any unprompted votecounts you see.

(and after im done i'll actually get to this game)

 

[#HBC | Mac]

wrt MODBOT: k so it should be working? (idk im afraid to test it.. just use it normally and hopefully there are no problems)
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Think soup is town though I wasn't feeling that slot up until he pointed out Laundry's ****.

Red Ryu's lookin the most scummy, but I'd be very down with a Laundry shot

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

ayyo mudda fuqqas do dat gay ass suspicion voting bull**** through da modbot so we can run it. no hammers means mac can stall having to program it so das swag.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

vote: red ryu

@bot: request votecount

 

[MODBOT]

(2) #hbc | laundry: #hbc | zen, #hbc | red ryu
(1) #hbc | soup: #hbc | laundry
(1) potassium: #hbc | ѕoup
(1) #hbc | red ryu: #hbc | mac
(0) #hbc | zen:
(0) cashmoneydollabills:
(0) #hbc | mac:

Not voting: CASHMONEYDOLLABILLS, #HBC | soup, Potassium

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I saw that the man of the hour had arrived. I will be back later on.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

vote: Zen

gimme my money

 

[CASHMONEYDOLLABILLS]

yo sorry mah homies i'm here now

i'm obv not gonna shoot yet as I have until 8/18 and i don't wanna miss the shot and die cuz i'm a *****
if i was trigger happy now i'd shoot potato

soup is my biggest townread right now

@ #HBC | Laundry why you hating on Zen so hard

 

[CASHMONEYDOLLABILLS]

i guess i'll throw down a vote too

Vote: Potassium

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Aight, time for me to do the legwork:

Again, mathematically, up until CASHMONEY and Mac started posting, one scum was confirmed to have posted at least once since the start of the game. More importantly, before I started posting, one scum was confirmed to have posted. I know it's between Ruy/Zen/Soup/Potato so it's simply a matter of finding out which of those slots was it. The other side to playing like a ****** was to attempt baiting out the scummer to attach to the ****** magnet. Half of those players did.

Here are my notes on a few things:

1) My interaction with Potato early was me trying to get shot. He's not at the bottom of my readslist because of certain other **** Zen's doing and because he, at the moment, looks like he wants to get shot. Whether or not that's sincere is another story and one I hope we get to the bottom to soon, but that's not the point I want to make. The reason why he's suspect is, despite pressure being absolutely nonexistent from anyone not named CASHMONEYDOLLABILLS, he still got pressured by Zen's bogus "Scum was online to send the shot ergo people online now are likely scum" enough to respond to it as if it was threatening. That's a massive red flag, especially at this early in the game. Even if the explanation was innocent, it doesn't validate the action itself.

2) I had initial concerns of Soup, given that as scum, he is absolutely reliant upon starting off on the right foot. I dunno why, but he does, and it's something I've noted in recent scum games from him, to the point where he obsessively goes about early on trying to make sure he starts the game off and he gets things going. After some brief oddities (his starting post is a mechanical point about a vote count), he doesn't seem to be that way. His catch on me in particular is good, even if him advocating I get shot is bad for the reasons he stated. No one should actually buy the -1.

3) I have too little to judge Ruy as townie but he seems more like his typical townRuy than scumRuy. I give that slot too much of a pass as scum so my eye is on him but I have no reason to suspect him whatsoever right now.

4) Next post is about Zen, 502 Dragon is out tonight and I don't want to lose this one.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Mathematically one scum has been posting thus far. I'm not it. I was trying to bait him out by acting like a dip**** (the other side to that coin). I doubt it's Ruy as Ruy's simply too naive at this point but I have absolutely nothing definitive to say it isn't him. I'm still going over Soup but I doubt it's him. Probably one of Zen/Potato, not sure.

See funny thing is that it worked. You lay your plan out for all to see and yet they still take the bait. It's a wonder why we even play these games sometime.

 

[Xivii]

So do you think mac is scum?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I'm not inconsistent. You just shouldn't be rearwarded for bad play. I will do everything in my power to make sure you aren't shot.

I have an entire ISO read to get to but this post still just bothers me.

A) I could write a whole book on how inconsistent you can be. You're a ****ing expert at it. Don't call me a liar boy.
B) I want you, at any point in the game, to look and see how what I'm doing is "bad", other than the -1 from letting CASHMONEY die.
C) Of course you'll never let me get the gun. You didn't give it to me in the first place for a reason, right?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

So do you think mac is scum?

PoE says yes but it's way too early to count out Ruy and even a bit early to count out Soup. I can work with a confirmed, my role PM, and a strong town-read though. 50/50 shot to hit scum? Sign me up.

 

[Xivii]

Not answering question or making legitimate pushes for the purpose of forcing town to shoot you is BAD.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Not answering question or making legitimate pushes for the purpose of forcing town to shoot you is BAD.

You're not this shallow.

 

[Xivii]

Explain to me the Potassium town read.

 

[Xivii]

Honestly I'm tired if your bs style that you've been using since you've come back. Your play has simply been of the walls horrible.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Explain to me the Potassium town read.

You're not this shallow.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Honestly I'm tired if your bs style that you've been using since you've come back. Your play has simply been of the walls horrible.

toppest of keks

 

[Xivii]

Sigh. There's really no point in even trying to dialogue with you. We'll discuss your play one sleepover ends. Until then consider yourself on ignore.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Fk it

@ #HBC | Laundry why you hating on Zen so hard

Go back and read how he treats Potato/Soup from the beginning of the game until now and see if you notice it. I'll get to it tomorrow if you don't see it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Sigh. There's really no point in even trying to dialogue with you. We'll discuss your play one sleepover ends. Until then consider yourself on ignore.

Acting like a child? Pathetic.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

3) I have too little to judge Ruy as townie but he seems more like his typical townRuy than scumRuy. I give that slot too much of a pass as scum so my eye is on him but I have no reason to suspect him whatsoever right now.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Aight, lemme play the long game with you since this ****ing game forces us to interact and refusing to is simply blocking any form of information:

I already spelled out that I don't actually townread Potato. I refuse to listen to people saying I did because if they are, they're either dense or simply refusing to read my own posts. I legitimately just said I don't trust how he felt threatened by your point against him earlier and that the only reason I'm not questioning him harder is his sudden desire to get shot as I have no evidence that that's a bluff.

You're not a shallow player. You're simply not. I've seen you get beneath the surface level bull**** to see the actual **** going on underneath before. It's not like I was even being that subtle here--****ing SOUP caught onto my tactics almost immediately. The fact that you feel the need to call what I was doing bad despite a very clear effort that had multiple goals to accomplish is simply wrong. Whether or not you're actually scummy for it, I'm still working on that. I think you're less trustworthy than Potato and that's why my vote is on you. It doesn't answer why you can't look beyond the surface when even Soup is doing that right now.

I have questions for you. Are you going to behave or are you going to be a ****? If it's the former, they are:
1) WHy do you want Potato shot?
2) Do you still scumread me?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Also, you really don't want to try to talk to me about my play due to Sleepover. Not you. I'd talk to literally anyone but you (and J) about that game on how I played.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Ruy stop being a sideliner. That's not helping your cause.

 

[Xivii]

This game (mafia in general) necessitates understanding of one another. Instead of shutting me out by calling me shallow, simply making your 113 would have been all that was needed. I misunderstood your thought process on Potassium. I asked of your town read of Potassium because that's how I interpreted your #102. You said you're not counting out ruy or soup yet so I assume the 50/50 meant between those two, me, and mac. With potassium being the strong town read. If that's not the case, what did you mean?

1. I want potato shot because I think his willingness to be shot is "shallow". I felt the interaction between the two of you was TvS with you being the T. His #70 was particularly scummy because it seemed like a way to distance himself from being shot.

>states we shouldn't be shooting a townie
>states he's ok with being shot

I also do not like his conclusion of soup scum from it.

2. I do not have a scum read of you. My first interpretation of you & potassium was s v s. After you made that statement about how the two of you were both town, I felt that not to be the case as I don't feel you would have been so openly buddyful with your partner. I still feel the back and forth to be unnatural and likely T v S. I initially went for you because you were being uncooperative. But I don't think scum would have played the gun draw game you were playing.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

You're not a shallow player. You're simply not. I've seen you get beneath the surface level bull**** to see the actual **** going on underneath before. It's not like I was even being that subtle here--****ing SOUP caught onto my tactics almost immediately. The fact that you feel the need to call what I was doing bad despite a very clear effort that had multiple goals to accomplish is simply wrong. Whether or not you're actually scummy for it, I'm still working on that. I think you're less trustworthy than Potato and that's why my vote is on you. It doesn't answer why you can't look beyond the surface when even Soup is doing that right now.

your 'oh lemme act obviously shady so that I can get the gun' **** is whack as hell

Appearing to want to get shot is a red flag. we all know scum does not want to get shot and so in order to counter this scum's gonna try the best they can to appear like they wanna get shot. This is primarily the reason why I don't like Red Ryu's and your slot. I especially disliked the way you did it because you weren't up front about it, instead you were tryna let someone else "figure out" what you were tryna do.. as if you didn't want the idea to come from you

 

[Xivii]

your 'oh lemme act obviously shady so that I can get the gun' **** is whack as hell

Appearing to want to get shot is a red flag. we all know scum does not want to get shot and so in order to counter this scum's gonna try the best they can to appear like they wanna get shot. This is primarily the reason why I don't like Red Ryu's and your slot. I especially disliked the way you did it because you weren't up front about it, instead you were tryna let someone else "figure out" what you were tryna do.. as if you didn't want the idea to come from you

The last line makes me think the complete opposite. I feel scum would be more upfront about it, putting on a show. The fact that he went about it in a subtle way shows that he was genuinely trying to draw the gun to me.

 

[Xivii]

Mac what do you think of my above comments on Potassium?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

1. I want potato shot because I think his willingness to be shot is "shallow".

exactly this logic.

tho how is potato a bigger offender than Ryu?

The last line makes me think the complete opposite. I feel scum would be more upfront about it, putting on a show. The fact that he went about it in a subtle way shows that he was genuinely trying to draw the gun to me.

it was "subtle" as in he didn't openly show that he wanted to get the gun, but it was obviously unsubtle enough to get someone else to point it out. Mafia wants a show but they don't want to be seen as the orchestrator, if they can get someone else to push their agenda, all the better