Pokemon X and Y (SPOILERS THREAD)

[#HBC | Laundry]

Misty Terrain halves damage from Dragon-type attacks for Pokemon touching the ground. There you have it.

e: Source: a ****ing road sign. The public must be informed!

#purgethedragonmenace

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Goodra has sap sipper...

Poison/ dragon both have resistance to grass

Poison/ Dragon doesn't seem likely, but unfortunately it may be dragon/ water

 

[The Real Gamer]

Goodra ending up Dragon/Water would be a travesty.

Seriously GF stop being morons and just give Poisons the hero they deserve. 5 generations later and we still lack a Posion type that actually kicks ass (Gengar doesn't count since the qualities that make it good don't even involve its Poison typing).

 

[Fluttershy]

Does anyone have confirmation on florges having a secondary typing yet? Kinda hoping it'll be grass

 

[The Real Gamer]

We're still waiting for type confirmation for Florges, Goodra, and Skrelp's evolution.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, I guess I won't be using Goodra after all. There is already too many water pokemon I want to use. And another dragon

 

[The Real Gamer]

Goodra confirmed to be the psuedo legend... Stats come out to around 80/100/70/115/145 (GATDAM)/90 ... Pure Dragon typing.

Apparently doesn't fully evolve until level 70. o.0

Spoiler

EDIT: I take back my previous comment. No need to kiss GF's ass... I'm disappointed. They dropped the ball on this guy. Should have been Dragon/Poision.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Goodra confirmed to be the psuedo legend... Stats come out to around 80/100/70/115/145 (GATDAM)/90 ... Pure Dragon typing.

Apparently doesn't fully evolve until level 70. o.0

Spoiler

EDIT: I take back my previous comment. No need to kiss GF's ***... I'm disappointed. They dropped the ball on this guy. Should have been Dragon/Poision.

NOOOOOOOOOO!

Hopefully they'll make a family of Dragon/Poison Pokemon based off Gila Monsters and Thorny Devils sometime in the future....

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[The Real Gamer]

I'm still trying to figure out why it didn't happen. It had the looks, it had the name, the reasoning to introduce the unique typing made perfect sense (the one dragon to counter fairies + to breathe some much needed life into the Poison type)... It all just MADE SENSE.

Reason I'm so disappointed was that Goodra was on its way to becoming one of the most unique Pokemon the series had ever seen (and one of my personal favorites of all time)... Now it's just another Dragon that happens to be focused on defenses instead of offense.

Maybe GF saw the typing as too dangerous? A bulky pseudo with insanely high sp def + natural resistance to toxic + Hydration does sound pretty ridiculous I guess...

Just a damn shame.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

The Kalos gym leaders.

I like Valerie and Olympia and most of the badge designs...but why is there still no Dark type gym?

Is it because it wouldn't "flow" well with other types or something? Is it because GameFreak has a problem with it being a gym, being "dirty fighting" and all? I'm curious.

The grass leader is kinda "meh", but I'm glad we now have a male Grass type specialist. It's a shame he's not part of the Elite Four, though.

Shortly before Gen 4 was released, I imagined a female Electric type trainer and male Grass type trainer as Elite Four members. At least both are gym leaders now.

 

[Spire]

Ramos (Grass Leader) is my favorite; reminds me of my gardener uncle.

I like that Goodra is a throwback to the "cute, round dino" look that Dragonite introduced instead of going down "cool" lane. A little disappointing that it isn't Dragon/Poison, but pure Dragon is interesting considering its bizarre concept. No idea what real-world phenomenon/animal they're referencing with Goodra, if anything.

Wonder if having "good" in its name is an indicator of its general alignment, or if it really is just "goo dragon"?

 

[Fluttershy]

it seems to be a pure fairy and a third evolution. skrelp's evo potentially being poison/dragon due to its name being dragon like...

 

[Spire]

That's true! Skrelp seems to be based on Leafy Seadragons... let's keep our fingers tied.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Well I guess that would make a lot more sense for the reasoning behind Goodra's Poison type denial.

But then again this news would mean I can't use Skrelp on my team since I'm already using a Dragon in Tyrantrum...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Mega Gardevoir doesn't look as bad as people are saying, it just looks like it's wearing a big fancy dress

Almost like a wedding dress

Because she's the fans waifu

 

[IsmaR]

Spoiler

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Wait until he takes off it's dress and remembers Gardevoir can be female AND male

 

[Pyra]

Mega Gardevoir doesn't look as bad as people are saying, it just looks like it's wearing a big fancy dress

Almost like a wedding dress

Because she's the fans waifu

That stained glass floor, though.

 

[IsmaR]

Oh right, I forgot I'm the only one who always has a male Gardevoir.

 

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So yeah, looks like Yveltal is 717 in the National Dex. Even with Z? and possible event Pokemon, this looks like the smallest Gen yet.

Not sure if Mega Pokemon make up for anything though.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I heard Vivillon is number 666 in the National Dex.

 

[Spire]

I heard Vivillon is number 666 in the National Dex.

I want to be disappointed, but they probably disregarded the number entirely. I'm sure it carries more weight in the west than in Japan.


And there I was, thinking the Megas would be a bonus to a bountiful new dex. I would have cut megas in favor of new Pokémon had I known we'd only be getting about 80. I'm torn, because some of the Mega designs are phenomenal, but they're eating up the Kalos dex! So long as we get twice as many Megas as currently known (17) then it'll be expansive enough. Favorite Kalos Pokémon:

• Delphox
• Phantump & Trevenant
• Pumpkaboo & Gourgeist
• Skrelp & Dragagle
• Tyrunt & Tyrantrum
• Barbaracle
• Goodra
• Malamar
• Noibat & Noivern

I feel I'm cheating by listing those, because that seems like such a large portion of the dex. I care so little about the legendaries now. Still curious to see Z and the promo. I think the [small] size of the Kalos dex hurts only because Unova introduced SO MANY. Had this followed Gen IV we wouldn't be complaining as much.

 

[Aurane]

Goodra confirmed to be the psuedo legend... Stats come out to around 80/100/70/115/145 (GATDAM)/90 ... Pure Dragon typing.

Apparently doesn't fully evolve until level 70. o.0

Spoiler

EDIT: I take back my previous comment. No need to kiss GF's ***... I'm disappointed. They dropped the ball on this guy. Should have been Dragon/Poision.

Holy ****... that's a rain staller, right there. I hope it can learn recover and stockpile.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

pfft stockpile

still though can't wait. i think i found my latias replacement for my rainstall team possibly.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Everyone who was expecting a huge amount of new Pokemon along with all of these Megas were being unrealistic.

It sucks that we're most likely only getting around 70-80 new Pokes tops but at the same time I'm not all that upset nor surprised. We have over 700+ freaking Pokemon now that's insane and with over 400+ Pokes available in game it leaves the player with more options than ever before.

And who knows maybe I'll eventually warm up to Mega Evos... Strong emphasis on maybe. I still think this gen will kick ass regardless.

 

[Reizilla]

Not to mention that the design team had to create ~800 3D models and animations nearly all from scratch, plus they're hopefully preparing for the REAL Gen 6 games... The Hoenn remakes... Hopefully.

 

[The Real Gamer]

plus they're hopefully preparing for the REAL Gen 6 games... The Hoenn remakes... Hopefully.

Oh god... The Hoenn region... In full 3D...

My body is not ready.

EDIT: Oh and what's up with GF only introducing ONE new Ground type...? I mean Diggersby is cool and all but... damn son just one?

 

[Reizilla]

http://pastebin.com/EYxHiRRK

I think that's a pretty up-to-date dex. I count 66, including Z, plus there area still a few spots open and no sign of the legendary trio yet. Megas not included. That doesn't seem too bad to me.

 

[Fluttershy]

there is still the possibility of GF increasing the pokedex through dlcs which is not likely but possible...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

http://pastebin.com/EYxHiRRK

I think that's a pretty up-to-date dex. I count 66, including Z, plus there area still a few spots open and no sign of the legendary trio yet. Megas not included. That doesn't seem too bad to me.

Has 68, not including the Z legendary

 

[The Real Gamer]

Looks like all we're missing is the Z legendary and the trio.

 

[Nintendotard]

Should we keep in mind that Y may have its own few exclusives and there'll probably be a few more legendaries? I'd like to see some more evolutions of previous pokemon. Not so much Mega, but actual Evolutions.

 

[IsmaR]

Skiddo is apparently Steel/Ghost

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Here's the Z legendary...
Looks totally awesome, but has a disappointing typing.

 

[Nintendotard]

Well damn...that sure is something? If Yveltal is Destruction and Xeneas (or something) is Life, what is Zygarde?

I know it says Order Pokemon but...I don't quite understand to be honest ^^;

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well damn...that sure is something? If Yveltal is Destruction and Xeneas (or something) is Life, what is Zygarde?

I know it says Order Pokemon but...I don't quite understand to be honest ^^;

It makes sure one doesn't create too much and the other doesn't destroy too much

 

[Pyra]

It makes sure one doesn't create too much and the other doesn't destroy too much

^This. I was trying to think of something to say but I couldn't think of a better way to say it than this.

 

[IsmaR]

Both of its STABs are resisted individually by Xerneas/Yveltal. Genius.

Also like the green color scheme.

 

[Nintendotard]

It makes sure one doesn't create too much and the other doesn't destroy too much

What a perfect description! Thank you

 

[Reizilla]

Rate the Pokémon time!

Chespin - Pretty cool. He reminds me of Angel Bunny. 7/10
Quilladin - Definitely the coolest of all 9 starter forms. 10/10
Chesnaught - Now THAT is how you make a cool looking Pokémon. I just wish he had more color. 9/10
Fennekin - She's a cutie, that's for sure. 8/10
Braixen - I love her stick. Still cute, but not cyute enough. 8/10
Delphox - I'm not sure what to think of this one. I'll have a better idea once I see netter art. 6-8/10
Froakie - The best of the actual starters. Awesome and adorable at the same time. 10/10
Frogadier - he's neat, but not anything special for me. 7/10
Greninja - I really don't like what they did with him. He just looks so awkward. 5/10
Helioptile - Neat. 6/10
Heliolisk - He looks like he's missing something... 5/10
Flabebe - the flower just makes her look awkward. 4/10
Floette - better than Flabebe. Not too bad. 6/10
Florgas - They really did a good job of showing the maturity of this one. 7/10
Swirlix - Its so fluffy!!!! 7/10
Slurpuff - a little bit too dopey for my tastes. 6/10
Spritzee - a fluffy nose? 3/10
Aromatisse - I love it. Amazing. 9/10
Bunnelby - the buttface is cute. 5/10
Diggersby - gets extra points for being hilarious. 6/10
Fletchling - Probably the most boring bird yet. 3/10
Fletchinder - Still kind of boring, but it has more character. 5/10
Talonflame - I think its name turns me off more than it should. 4/10
Phantump - D'awwwwwww 6/10
Trevenant - The wittle Phantump is twying to be scawy now 6/10
Pumpkaboo - I like it. 6/10
Gourgeist - Eh, not so much. 4/10
Skiddoo - reminds me of one of my puppies. So adorable. 10/10
Gogoat - The eyes are weird. 5/10
Scatterbug - Kawaiiiii 6/10
Spewpa - Kawaiiiii 6/10
Vivilion - I like the blue one 5/10
Clauncher - Not a fan of Mr. Grumpypants 4/10
Clawitzer - Holy crap that claw is great! 8/10
Skrelp - I don't even know 3/10
Dragalgie - I still don't know. 4/10
Tyrunt - T-rex are okay, I guess. 4/10
Tyrantum - he's so chubby. 4/10
Amaura - Ice, Dino, cyute, blue. Stop trying to be Lapras! 10/10
Aurorus - So fabulous. 9/10
Litlleo - He looks out of place in a cute way. 6/10
Pyroar - Both forms look great. 8/10
Hawlucha - I like the concept, but not the Pokémon 4/10
Binacle - not too bad. 5/10
Barbaracle - so intimidating! 7/10
Honedge - I love his design 8/10
Doublade - He's alright 7/10
Aegislash - So awesome! Love the name too. 8/10
Goomy wut u doin. Goomy stahp. 10/10
Sliggoo - still great! 9/10
Goodra - am I the only person not disappointed that he takes neutral damage from earthquake? 9/10
Espurr - so tiny! 6/10
Meowstic - I love both of these! I only wish the male were the offensive one. 9/10
Furfrou - Great name. Great design. Great features. Great animal. High chance of being generation favorite. 10/10
Inlay - looks like a toddler 4/10
Malamar - I really like the way it looks. I wish it had a water typing though. 8/10
Pancham - what an adorable tough guy 6/10
Pangoro - I'm getting nothing. 4/10
Klefki - love the concept. 7/10
Bergmite - I just think every ice pokemon is awesome, don't I? 8/10
Avalugg - Flathead looks like he could use one more evolution 7/10
Dedenne - speaking of needs another evolution... 1/10
Carbink - see above 3/10
Noibat - so. Cyute. 8/10
Noivern - So. Cool. 8/10
Yveltal - Just looks weird. 4/10
Xerneas - Weird but not in a bad way 6/10
Zygarde - The colors are great and I love the way it looks. Best legendary in a long time 9/10
Sylveon - I like her. One of the better Eeveelutions. 7/10


Megas:

Blaziken - meh. 4/10
Gengar : Neat. 6/10
Aerodactyl - Has a bear. 6/10
Lucario - ridiculous 7/10
Absol - What a fabulous harbinger of doom 9/10
Garchomp - Also ridiculous 6/10
Kangaskhan - How novel 4/10
Ampharos - The hair looks so out of place xD 5/10
Mawile '- Now this, I dig! 8/10
Venasaur - Barely noticeable 5/10
Charizard Y - meh. 4/10
Charizard X - Pokemon's version of fan service? 2/10
Blastoise - Pretty cool 7/10
Mew two Y - looks great to me 7/10
Mewtwo X - I don't dig this one quite as much 4/10
Abomasnow - Atrocious. Perfect. 8/10
Gyarados - I didnt think they could make Gyarados any worse, but they sure proved me wrong., 1/10
Gardevoir. - "I'm so pretty" 7/10