Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon Released! Discuss here!

[atreyujames]

I'm probably the only person that thinks this, but I think the evolution dex should replace the current pokedex

Sorry but I can't seem to recall what an "evolution dex" is. Google has failed me as well. What are you talking about?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Sorry but I can't seem to recall what an "evolution dex" is. Google has failed me as well. What are you talking about?

It pretty much is the same as the regular pokedex, but it puts pokemon evolution lines next to each other

Instead of having porygon, tons of other Pokemon, porygon 2, tons of more pokemon, then porygon -z (for example)

 

[Z25]

So basically the national dex? I like having national, but it's fun to have those normal ones to explore a new region first.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

So basically the national dex? I like having national, but it's fun to have those normal ones to explore a new region first.

It's the national Dex if you move pokemon around such as having pichu as pokemon 25 and pikachu at 26

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_evolution_family

I swear in one game it was called evolution Dex

 

[Z25]

It's the national Dex if you move pokemon around such as having pichu as pokemon 25 and pikachu at 26

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_evolution_family

I swear in one game it was called evolution Dex

Oh, I see what you meant. That isn't a bad idea. I wouldn't mind it as it would feel more organized imo.

 

[Deleted member]

So I saw all The supposed evolutions I realize now they were intended as final evolutions. My bad Rowlet's final form is my favourite the hood over it's face makes it mysterious and intriguing and I like the fact it's like an archer keeping it's arrows in it's wing. And making a bow out of vines awesome. Litten's looks like some kind of tiger wrestler thing but I like it. Popplio's like a mermaid I know people think it looks feminine but I like it. I think their fake but cool all the same!

 

[LancerStaff]

Gamexplain posted a new video.

It's some crazy theory about the plot and how it connects to XY, ORAS, and even HGSS at one point... It's twenty minutes long so don't try and watch it over lunch like I tried to.

They missed a few connections though. At one point a "flaming stream of water that helped create the world" was mentioned, which seems to be referencing Volcanion. Then on the cover of one of the books they referenced it depicted Yggdrasil, the serpent below and the eagle above which are clearly represented by the XY box legends so I'm thinking there's another connection to them somewhere... Lastly we found that there is data in XY that suggested there were supposed to be three sets of games connected somehow, though literally and not just story, but it has some interesting implications.

 

[Deleted member]

That's a big head scratcher and an interesting one at that it's a cool theory so you never know.

 

[Z25]

I liked that theory. It offers a lot of information and may be hard to take in all at once, but it's interesting. A lot of the alchemy stuff does seem to bee hinting at something, rather then coincidence.. If they do alchemy, I hope the story winds up being pretty interesting, as alchemy offers a lot of potential.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

I heard a theory regarding starters on Serebii. It says that the starter Pokemon are circus-themed: Rowlett is based on ringmaster, Litten is based on the lions/tigers they have in circuses, and Popplio is based on clown.

 

[Z25]

I heard a theory regarding starters on Serebii. It says that the starter Pokemon are circus-themed: Rowlett is based on ringmaster, Litten is based on the lions/tigers they have in circuses, and Popplio is based on clown.

This has been speculated upon for quite some time. I think it makes a lot of sense. I like the idea of it to. We'll see if they are doing it when we get the second evos.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

This has been speculated upon for quite some time. I think it makes a lot of sense. I like the idea of it to. We'll see if they are doing it when we get the second evos.

Yeah, it is an interesting idea. Hopefully we'll see the second evos soon.

 

[Moorthen]

Two new Pokémon have been revealed from the CoroCoro magazine. I'm not sure if scans are allowed to be posted here, but you can just check the usual sites. One is a koala and the other is a dog. The koala looks kinda cute.

 

[Z25]

Two new Pokémon have been revealed from the CoroCoro magazine. I'm not sure if scans are allowed to be posted here, but you can just check the usual sites. One is a koala and the other is a dog. The koala looks kinda cute.

Yup they can! Here you go guys!

Spoiler

Info from Serebii:

First up is Nekkoala, the Half Awake Pokémon which is Normal-type with the ability Definite Sleep which prevents it being afflicted with a status other than sleep, while the dog is Iwanko, and is a Rock-type Pokémon. It's abilities are Keen Eye or Vital Spirit. It is the Puppy Pokémon. We'll bring more as it comes
Edit @ 03:18: Some images pertaining to the movie have also been released. The Greninja event at the movie based on the Pokémon Election has the ability Protean and the moves Hydro Pump, Gunk Shot, Mat Block & Happy Hour
Edit @ 03:31: Attendees at the movie will receive a Pokémon Ga-Olé disc that has a QR Code that will be scanned to get Magearna in Pokémon Sun & Moon. Magearna has got the Soul Heart Ability and a new move called Fleur Cannon and will be found at Level 50 with the moves Fleur Cannon, Flash Cannon, Lucky Chant and Helping Hand
Edit @ 04:04: CoroCoro hints that Rowlet, Litten, Popplio and Iwanko all hide a secret


All sounds amazing! The game is getting very hype worthy as we get more info!

 

[atreyujames]

First off, that koala is damn cute. And it's ability is great and should be retroactively added on to slakoth. By them saying that the starters and this dog have a "secret", I'm gonna guess they Mega Evolve. At least the mystery is solved on what pokemon was hiding as a glimpse in the other trailer. I thought it looked a bit like a deer, but I can see the dog in it now that they point it out

 

[L9999]

Turns Iwanko is not an Eeveelution, but still a canine. And a Rock type. And it *might* Mega Evolve. If it is the "regional rodent" then good way to break the trend.

Nekkoala's ability....so it cannot be paralyzed, frozen, burned, infatuated, poisoned, or confused? If its stat and movepool aren't garbage it will be a game breaker.

I know I'm beating up the deadest horse in the graveyard, but, the girl's hat. It's not the form, but, it is so poorly integrated in her head every time I see her it seems she has no hat, then I see it. If she was blonde then it would be noticeable but no. Wait! She can be blonde....

I liked that theory. It offers a lot of information and may be hard to take in all at once, but it's interesting. A lot of the alchemy stuff does seem to be hinting at something, rather then coincidence.. If they do alchemy, I hope the story winds up being pretty interesting, as alchemy offers a lot of potential.

Seeing how straightfoward this games are I doubt it, but it would be amazing. That Gametheory video is amazing. Wonder how they have so much free time to search all of that.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Nekkoala is most likely this gen's Rattata. Iwanko being a Rock-type is surprising.

 

[Tizio Random]

New Zygarde forms, baby!

Spoiler

Calling it:

• Core form (if it will be available for battles) will have abysmal base stats like 150-200 total but I doubt it will fight
• 10% form will have something like 300-450 BST mainly on speed
• 50% form has 600 as we already know
• 100% form will be broken, I already can see something like 860-900 BST considering it activates when HP are low

 

[mario123007]

New Zygarde forms, baby!

Spoiler

Calling it:

• Core form (if it will be available for battles) will have abysmal base stats like 150-200 total but I doubt it will fight
• 10% form will have something like 300-450 BST mainly on speed
• 50% form has 600 as we already know
• 100% form will be broken, I already can see something like 860-900 BST considering it activates when HP are low

I can tell that is from the Pokemon Championship that was hosted in Taiwan.
And no I wasn't there sadly...

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

New Zygarde forms, baby!

Spoiler

Calling it:

• Core form (if it will be available for battles) will have abysmal base stats like 150-200 total but I doubt it will fight
• 10% form will have something like 300-450 BST mainly on speed
• 50% form has 600 as we already know
• 100% form will be broken, I already can see something like 860-900 BST considering it activates when HP are low

Good to see that Zygarde forms will appear in Sun & Moon.

I just hope this doesn't mean that Ash-Greninja will appear too.

 

[Tizio Random]

I can tell that is from the Pokemon Championship that was hosted in Taiwan.
And no I wasn't there sadly...

Today there's also a Pokémon Championship in Milan that is near my home but I unfortunately can't attend because I have too many exams to prepare (but instead I'm here on Smashboards because I'm a lazy *** lmao).
Props to your people for sharing this video, tho. And, is that move with that Z on the ground Land's Wrath? I'll be glad if you can translate that for me.

Good to see that Zygarde forms will appear in Sun & Moon.

I just hope this doesn't mean that Ash-Greninja will appear too.

Maybe not Ash's Greninja specifically but I think syncro-moves are a given at this point. Maybe the transformation like AZ's Floette and Ash's Greninja happen only in case without those gems, which the SUMO trainers have, and are extremely rare.

EDIT: 300 messages, woohoo!

 

[Deleted member]

I like the new Pokemon!
The koala not being affected by everything but sleep? I think that they might balance its stats so that it doesn't appear to be "broken".
I didn't expect the dog to be a rock type, but I'll roll with it. (heh) I think I'll be having it on my team depending on what its evolutions are.

New Zygarde forms, baby!

Spoiler

Calling it:

• Core form (if it will be available for battles) will have abysmal base stats like 150-200 total but I doubt it will fight
• 10% form will have something like 300-450 BST mainly on speed
• 50% form has 600 as we already know
• 100% form will be broken, I already can see something like 860-900 BST considering it activates when HP are low

So Zygarde is going to get its forms in the games one generation later. Still, it's pretty neat.

 

[---]

New Zygarde forms, baby!

Spoiler

Calling it:

• Core form (if it will be available for battles) will have abysmal base stats like 150-200 total but I doubt it will fight
• 10% form will have something like 300-450 BST mainly on speed
• 50% form has 600 as we already know
• 100% form will be broken, I already can see something like 860-900 BST considering it activates when HP are low

287 Max HP at Lvl 50, that potentially puts it within the Top 5 Pokemon for that stat. If they're using no EVs/minimum IVs like the other trailers, and given the HP loss to active the change, this thing is going to be the Dark Phoenix of Pokemon.

 

[mario123007]

Today there's also a Pokémon Championship in Milan that is near my home but I unfortunately can't attend because I have too many exams to prepare (but instead I'm here on Smashboards because I'm a lazy *** lmao).
Props to your people for sharing this video, tho. And, is that move with that Z on the ground Land's Wrath? I'll be glad if you can translate that for me.

I wasn't paying that much of attention to the video, but I will check it again.
It's called "Core Punisher" if you translated it directly.

 

[Deleted member]

Nekkola and Iwanko look awesome I'm going to catch and battle with them in
my team. Zygarde's 10% and complete forms and their moves look cool. Also don't want the secret with Iwanko, Rowlet and the other starters is but it's definetly peaked my interest. Something connected to synchro evolution perhaps.

 

[Arcanir]

New Zygarde forms, baby!

Spoiler

Calling it:

• Core form (if it will be available for battles) will have abysmal base stats like 150-200 total but I doubt it will fight
• 10% form will have something like 300-450 BST mainly on speed
• 50% form has 600 as we already know
• 100% form will be broken, I already can see something like 860-900 BST considering it activates when HP are low

Ah, so we finally get to see these guys in the games. I won't comment on the designs of them since I've mentioned my opinion of them before, but the ability is a bit interesting. Darmanitan had a similar ability where once it reached a certain HP, it'd transform into a different and bulkier form. This seems to be an advancement of that since 10% changes from a weaker form once it reaches a certain HP to a much stronger one, but it also gets a much larger base HP stat and fills said HP once it's transformed to match how much damage it took. Depending on its application, it's either going to be a very good Pokémon, or one that's held back by it since if 10% form is required, you may have to play carefully so it doesn't get KO'd before it transforms.

Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves still look good from their

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I did find out about Zygarde's forms being usable in Pokemon Sun & Moon.

Now, assuming that Zygarde doesn't have any EVs, the 10% Forme's base HP can either range from 50 to 65. Whereas, the Complete Forme's base HP can range from 212 to 227. This would mean that Complete Forme Zygarde's base HP surpasses that of Wobbuffet, and is only weaker than that of Chansey and Blissey.

In regards to Swarm Change, perhaps it would work as follows...

If 10% Forme Zygarde's current HP drops below 50%, it will transform into 50% Forme Zygarde. But if 10% Forme Zygarde's current HP drops below 25%, it will transform into Complete Forme Zygarde instead.

As for 50% Forme Zygarde, it'll probably lose the Aura Break ability and gain Swarm Change itself so that it can change into Complete Forme Zygarde if its current HP drops below 25%. This would probably mean that only Complete Forme Zygarde would have the Aura Break ability from here on out.

Swarm Change can't be Role Played, Traced, Skill Swapped, or nullified, ensuring that only Zygarde can have it.

Obviously, you want to take down 10% Forme Zygarde with a single hit if you don't want its ability to activate. But that can be almost impossible to pull off if Zygarde is holding the Focus Sash, which you'll probably see a lot of in Pokemon Sun & Moon.

 

[Z25]

Turns Iwanko is not an Eeveelution, but still a canine. And a Rock type. And it *might* Mega Evolve. If it is the "regional rodent" then good way to break the trend.

Nekkoala's ability....so it cannot be paralyzed, frozen, burned, infatuated, poisoned, or confused? If its stat and movepool aren't garbage it will be a game breaker.

I know I'm beating up the deadest horse in the graveyard, but, the girl's hat. It's not the form, but, it is so poorly integrated in her head every time I see her it seems she has no hat, then I see it. If she was blonde then it would be noticeable but no. Wait! She can be blonde....


Seeing how straightfoward this games are I doubt it, but it would be amazing. That Gametheory video is amazing. Wonder how they have so much free time to search all of that.

IT seems that one user did a lot of research and then GX went out and found more to go with it as well

Good to see that Zygarde forms will appear in Sun & Moon.

I just hope this doesn't mean that Ash-Greninja will appear too.

This probably 90% confirms Ash Greninja and synchro evolution. Which based on how you get zygarde perfect, I'm betting synchro happens when low on HP and that pokemon transforms and gains a big stat boost.

And core punisher has been in front of us the whole time! Whenever zydoge fights in the anime, it always uses that move.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

This probably 90% confirms Ash Greninja and synchro evolution. Which based on how you get zygarde perfect, I'm betting synchro happens when low on HP and that pokemon transforms and gains a big stat boost.

And core punisher has been in front of us the whole time! Whenever zydoge fights in the anime, it always uses that move.

Well, if synchro evolution is indeed in Sun & Moon, and other Pokemon get Ash-Greninja like forms, I really hope they don't resemble Ash.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well, if synchro evolution is indeed in Sun & Moon, and other Pokemon get Ash-Greninja like forms, I really hope they don't resemble Ash.

Probably not. If anything, the synchro evolutions may vary, depending on the trainer's appearance. For Ash's Greninja, the Ash-Greninja form would probably be exclusive to him, while the sychro evolution appearance would be different for another trainer.

But perhaps it would be possible to acquire Ash-Greninja if your trainer is wearing the proper accessories.

 

[Tizio Random]

So, the name of the move with the big Z is Core Enforcer. Really nice, I'm waiting for its 200 BP and infinite precision lol
Interesting to see that this trailer doesn't display the health bar.

Spoiler

While I'm at it I'll post this video I found on Youtube with a fan made version of Magearna battle theme because it is sick!

 

[Z25]

Well, if synchro evolution is indeed in Sun & Moon, and other Pokemon get Ash-Greninja like forms, I really hope they don't resemble Ash.

I'm thinking it will loosely be based on the default trainers. Maybe change with certain items on you, but who knows.

 

[mario123007]

So, the name of the move with the big Z is Core Enforcer. Really nice, I'm waiting for its 200 BP and infinite precision lol
Interesting to see that this trailer doesn't display the health bar.

Gah,almost got it right...

 

[L9999]

So all that Zygarde stuff might go somewhere? I hope....

 

[Z25]

I'm guessing epsisode Z or Zygarde is important to the main sun and moon plot.

 

[Murlough]

I like how something that happens "only once every thousand years" is being speculated to be the new mega evolution for multiple pokemon.

I hope they just release the details on whatever the new mechanic will be so I can hate it and get over it quicker or maybe enjoy it.

If my grass owl evolves and gets my characters hairdo I will not be pleased.

 

[atreyujames]

I don't know why you guys seem to think that this new zygarde news has ANYTHING to do with synchro's. Personally I think synchro's are still highly unlikely. It's such an incredibly campy concept, maybe a little TOO gimmicky for even pokemon to try. I also don't think they would introduce something like that so soon after a very similar and selective major addition like mega evolution.

 

[Tizio Random]

I like how something that happens "only once every thousand years" is being speculated to be the new mega evolution for multiple pokemon.

I think that the thing that happens only one thousand years is the fact that the Pokémon change his aspects resembling its trainer and reach synchro-evolution or whatever the hell is that without that keystone that the trainers in Sun and Moon have. Like Mega Rayquaza that can evolve without a megastone: it's a special case.
Obviously it's a theory but it's not too

 

[Z25]

Synchro just seems likely at this point. The zygarde forms and Ashninja both came in at the same time were stalled until the announcements, it just seems likely, plus the bracelet's have an upgrade to them and the Gf trademark Gigareki means something like Super Energy.


It's added up pretty well imo, and is probably going to vary from the anime.

 

[atreyujames]

While Zygarde forms have been confirmed for sun and moon, there is no evidence that they have anything at all to do with synchros. On the flip side, Ashninja obviously is synchro but has so far not been seen in any of the spoilers at all. While synchro seems to be a thing in the anime (maybe) but even that isn't confirmed in so far as only ash has accomplished this so far, and as we know, the anime doesn't always translate to the game (Aim for he horn!). Also Ash is basically god in that world. Everything that can happen will happen to him. Forever.

Basically just because it's in the anime doesn't mean we will be getting it in the game. You've got me on the stones though. I don't know if they are just a reskinned mega stone, or what, but I 100% don't think they are synchro stones. If i'm wrong later, than by all means, call me out on this ;P