Pokemon generation 5... awesome suckage

[Teran]

Wat?

Without speed boost Blaziken aint all that.

Lololol I love this, it's like when they banned Salamence last gen wtf was that about?

 

[Zankoku]

When I looked into the Blaziken ban, I eventually found out that they did that because he was considered broken with Speed Boost but they just banned the entire Pokémon to "keep the ban list clean" or something.

 

[Teran]

That is the most ******** thing ever.

Blaziken is a perfectly fine standard pokémon without speed boost and they shouldn't skank him like this just for the sake of some stupid official looking list.

 

[Zook]

those all look so much more ******** than the Gen1 pokemon.

Good for you.

When I looked into the Blaziken ban, I eventually found out that they did that because he was considered broken with Speed Boost but they just banned the entire Pokémon to "keep the ban list clean" or something.

How silly.

Also, BrightPowder got banned? Awww, poor Cacturne

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Like why is something as well designed as Dragonair a pre evo? D:

freaking this. whyyy such a cool pokemon D:

 

[Teran]

How silly.

Also, BrightPowder got banned? Awww, poor Cacturne

I remember when I used to activate Sand Stream and put BrightPowder on Garchomp, this was on wifi back in the day.

I usually rocked Yache Berry but the rage of Garchomp hax made people do stupid things. I dunno if that was an illegal combo but who cares nobody ever knew, they thought they were just getting gayed hardcore by Sand Veil.

 

[Zankoku]

BrightPowder got banned in 5th Gen Suspect testing, because apparently everybody hated evasion items. Back in 4th Gen I used to use a BrightPowder RestTalking Whirlwind/Roar Aerodactyl.

 

[Teran]

Evasion is mad annoying, but imo it's a sound strategy and tbh if people stopped relying on moves like Stone Edge, Fire Blast, and Focus Blast, then evasion wouldn't be that big a deal.

It's not as bad as a Togekiss with King's Rock, I used that too I'm pretty sure that was utterly illegal.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Double Team at +6 is a pain to deal with.

 

[Teran]

Lol if you let them set up 6 double teams.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Sometimes I get unlucky and miss the first hits. :/

 

[Teran]

Double Team is such a typical CPU strategy.

I remember it was like the pinnacle of Pokémon Stadium strategy. Well actually, it was that then the CPU would set up parafusion.

Hahahahaha what cheap *******s but you gotta hand it to 'em

 

[Zankoku]

I remember some kid challenging me on PO and unchecking all the clauses. He ended up running a Baton Pass team that started off by passing +6 Evasion, then he got cocky and kept adding on more stats to boost. He got pissed when my 10th Whirlwind finally didn't miss and left. : \

 

[Teran]

If there were no clauses, I'd set up dual screens and then try to baton pass defensive boosts to an Articuno who'd try to safely set up agility although that wouldn't be paramount.

I think you know where I'm going with this.

 

[Zankoku]

What, spam Mind Reader Sheer Colds?

By the way, have you ever seen the rental Smeargles in Pokémon Battle Colosseum? I don't remember the fourth move, but they had Spore, Lock On, and Sheer Cold. I always found it funny that Nintendo would provide us a moveset like that.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Sometimes I think that the Smogon heads abuses their power or complains too much but that's just me I just hope they get a Uber ladder started so I can start using speed boost Blaziken once I get my hands on it.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Why are you applying competitive terms to a standard playthrough of Pokemon graagh

I've never played competitive Pokemon except like on Colosseum. I've just always found it easier and better to go with a team of 4. Usually I try to go with Ghost, Dark, Psychic, Dragon or Fighting types because of their good match ups and that the CPU opponents rarely have their weakness, and when they do you have a perfect counter. With the proper moveset you can wipe the floor with every CPU... cept Ghetsis.
lol, my Zoroark took out the Ghost and Pyshic elite 4 by himself and I think he only got hit once.

Hey how can anyone hate on Vanilluxe
Look how happy they are!

No one wants to fight with something that looks appetizing.

Okay, some of those are under scrutiny. But seriously, every gen has good and bad pokemon.

^this
Gen 4 was by far the worst though (except for some of those final evolutions like Gliscor, Yamega and the like).

I liked the bear, the gear, the dragon even if its fugly, and tepig. Meh.

Why does everyone not like Cinccino? It's like an awesome Lopunny.

These are all first gen pokémon I feel would definitely get called stupid looking if they were released this gen.

Man let's not go there with the Red/Blue sprites, and o.O @ Green.

*agreed

Although it still has the best pokémon, only to give them ****ty stats or make them evolve. Like why is something as well designed as Dragonair a pre evo? D:

Dragonair use to be my avy and sig. I love that Pokemon... but Dragonite grew on me.

 

[Zankoku]

Ghost, Dark, Psychic, Dragon or Fighting types because of their good match ups and that the CPU opponents rarely have their weakness

I dunno about Dark or Psychic, but Ghost has always been a good defensive typing, Dragon has always been an amazing overall typing, and Fighting's only two weaknesses are Psychic and Flying. Come on, who the **** uses Flying? At least Psychic is seeing slightly more use because there are so many Fighting types now.

 

[Teran]

Man I think it was a terrible move on Game Freak's part to nerf Psychic types so heavily. Agreed they were way broken in 1st gen, but they completely demolished them come 2nd gen onwards.

Also @ Saviorslegacy, I've always loved Dragonite, I just thought it was a shame how an amazingly well designed pokémon like Dragonair was a pre evo and has underwhelming base stats.

 

[deepseadiva]

The antithesis:

I love this thing! He's why I chose Tepig - it's so adorably tough. The whole Emboar line is done really well.

Compare to:

A similar idea, but done with more creativity imo.

This being the American gen, I appreciate the Native American diversity. I actually thought it evolved from Unown until a minute ago, so double points for being a solo.

Ignore it and pretend Minccino never evolves.

"Ice Cream Pokemon"

It's just a weak concept.

Klink had so much potential. I'm really sad it evolves into a collection of gathered objects.

THAT STUPID TUFT UGH

This is the worst Pokemon.

The worst.

Seriously, I encountered it and forgot I could catch it. It didn't occur to me that it was anything more than an enemy that needed to be destroyed.

It's beautiful in it's own mentally disabled way. Keep in mind my favorite Pokemon is Dunsparce.

I haven't seen it in the game yet, but I still think it looks childish and generic.

Unicorn! :D :D :D

Like why is something as well designed as Dragonair a pre evo? D:

In Yellow, I would always mash B. Why would my beautacious Dragonair ever want to evolve into Barney. Nonono. Never.

Lol if you let them set up 6 double teams.

The snowballing of missing that one hit is pretty devastating.

 

[ndayday]

There's no Cryogonal love.

 

[RATED]

These are all first gen pokémon I feel would definitely get called stupid looking if they were released this gen.

Man let's not go there with the Red/Blue sprites, and o.O @ Green.

Why that Hitmonchan hate, I mean He looks Great IMO. I always loved his design. Maybe I am biased because I love Fighting Pokemon.

Best Pokemon Ever = Machamp <3

 

[Teran]

Hitmonchan is basically a dude in a skirt with boxing gloves.

Making his face slightly simplistic doesn't change the fact that he looks kinda like a dumb human. I love him for nostalgia's sake, I have a special place for all Gen 1 and 2 pokémon, but there's no denying he looks kinda dumb.

I agree Machamp looks awesome though, I remember having his holo card and thinking it was the coolest thing.

SEISMIC TOSS!

But yeah I do admit Sugimori's recent art style has been a lot more cartoonish and I dunno how to describe it, I could almost say crude because a lot of the designs have a big blotchy feel like he's using fat kindergarten crayons. The old pokémon had a more refined feel to them I think, even if the art style was much less smooth.

Still I think they at least kept the designs of the legendaries and pseudo legendaries good, Dialga looks amazing imo, and Reshiram and Zekrom look pretty cool too.

 

[Clownbot]

These are all first gen pokémon I feel would definitely get called stupid looking if they were released this gen.

Man let's not go there with the Red/Blue sprites, and o.O @ Green.

Needs more

For some weird reason I get the feeling that Seadra would too. And Clefable.

 

[Teran]

I would have mentioned Jynx, but then when I heard about the blackface scandal, I lol'd so hard her design become instant legend for me.

 

[po pimpus]

Smogon banned Blaziken which makes them completely irrelevant to me now. He's got checks, but no one there wants to disrupt the sanctity of their Tyranitar/Sandstream/Spikes abusing teams to deal with him.

Oh noes! Drizzle+Swift Swim is too good because I can't be a ***** and stall for 200 turns while Stealth Rock does all my work for me! Even though there are abilities just like that for Sandstor- wait, what?

A generation ago, Blaziken never got used. Now he's banned. The irony is thick and rich like chocolate syrup...

Next thing you know, they'll be banning Critical Hits...

 

[EpixAura]

My only real beef with Gen V is brutal centralization it has put on weather teams. Particularly sandstorm teams.

I'll bet half the teams I'll fight will be some variation of Tyranitar/Hippowdon, Choice Scarf Landorus, Excadrill, Reuniclus, Ferrothorn, and Metagross. Honestly, weather teams depress me. I don't know why, they just do.
Sure, some of the new Pokes looked stupid or had bad names, more so than any preceding generation, in fact, but what did we expect? Most of the good ones have already been taken.

I actually liked the storyline more than any other game so far. Gen I barely had a storyline, Gen II was largely about fighting an already doomed Team Rocket, Gen III was WAY too centralized around the primary legendaries, Gen IV had the storyline JUST at that point where it felt like they were trying too hard without any real result. Gen V, however, while it does seem like they're still trying too hard, yielded great results, despite seeming stupid at earlier times in the game.
I liked the characters a good bit as well. Cheren, while not as good a rival as the original from Gen I, fits the rival niche pretty well. Also, him + Bianca, whom I admittedly dislike, mean 2x the rival battles without too much of a loss of the "Oh yay! Rival Battle! YES!!!!!" effect. The gym leaders were pretty cool, and I loved N, although he was overdone a bit.

I really want to say it was one of the best gens yet, but then I remember how great Gens I/II were, and so Gen V has to take the middle spot.

 

[Zankoku]

Actually they're more likely to ban critical misses.

Again, Smogon's official stance on Blaziken was that they banned the whole character rather than a tactic Pokémon because they wanted to keep their rules list clean, even though Blaziken with Speed Boost was the only one that potentially posed a problem.

As for Drizzle+Swift Swim, I'd counter that using those is like "now I can be a ***** and click whatever attack OHKOs because I always go first." I haven't played in competitive to tell whether it's broken or not, but hey, Smogon's banned plenty of things that aren't broken, so whatever. I'm surprised it took banning Blaziken for them to be irrelevant for you, considering all the WAY MORE CONTROVERSIAL stuff they'd banned back in 4th Gen.

 

[po pimpus]

Well that was mostly hyperbole. Smogon's been irrelevant to me since Gen 3 when I got banned for beating one of their 'gdlk' mods with a ****ty team- TWICE. Even got another god-mod to challenge me, whom I narrowly lost to with the same team.
I then get warned to not say anything, so what do I do? Of course I announce on the chat that I whipped him like cream, and he gets all butt hurt and I get a six-month ban for WINNING.

It was at that moment I realized that Smogon wasn't about the spirit of competition, but rather the self-aggrandizing ego stroking of a few pseudo-intellectual douches who take a child's video game a little too seriously (lol Smashboards, amirite?)

I was Charlie Sheen before it was cool.

 

[Teran]

Man speaking of Tyranitar from the previous posts, I was actually massively shocked at Salamence's ban mainly because Tyranitar stayed OU.

I'm not saying I'm like an authority figure by any stretch, but I really don't think it takes a genius to realise that Tyranitar posed a much greater threat than Salamence.

Tyranitar had pretty much the same attack as Salamence, with amazing STAB type coverage and overall great type coverage with his movesets.

Not only that, but the very ****ing stupid ability in Sandstream which pretty much nullified his only slightly subpar SpD to make it ridiculous, so basically he could take hits from both ends of the spectrum amazingly well (so much so that some Aura Spheres wouldn't even OHKO him), as well as having an option in Dragon Dance to raise his monstrous attack even higher as well has remedying his bad speed. Not that it even mattered that much, I ran a Choice Band TTar that I can honestly say on wifi, where I had a lot of battles, never got KO'd. Didn't always use him though but when I did I never lost. :x

Salamence was frail, lost a good chunk to the spammed Stealth Rock, and could easily be revenge killed if the trainer wasn't smart enough to recall him. Honestly Salamence was a very powerful but imo perfectly fair OU pokémon. A pseudo legendary is meant to be strong but still counterable, which imo Salamence was. Also people who used Outrage on him were obviously locked into that move, meaning a free switch in for resisting mons.

But noooo, somehow that was seen as way overpowered whereas TTar who shared a less common (in that gen) double weakness, massive bulk, monstrous attack, and boostable speed was somehow good to go.

RAGE

 

[Zankoku]

Salamence was overpowered because he was a Dragon. You can tell that Dragons are overpowered because their typing has TWO colors in the background. Other things that are obviously broken because they're Dragons:
Garchomp
Latias
Latios
Altaria

 

[Teran]

LMAO @ Altaria.

Thing learns Dragon Dance and Outrage, obviously too good for OU.

Also Dragonite is fat and not blue so obviously he isn't a real Dragon.

 

[EpixAura]

Actually they're more likely to ban critical misses.

Again, Smogon's official stance on Blaziken was that they banned the whole character rather than a tactic Pokémon because they wanted to keep their rules list clean, even though Blaziken with Speed Boost was the only one that potentially posed a problem.

As for Drizzle+Swift Swim, I'd counter that using those is like "now I can be a ***** and click whatever attack OHKOs because I always go first." I haven't played in competitive to tell whether it's broken or not, but hey, Smogon's banned plenty of things that aren't broken, so whatever. I'm surprised it took banning Blaziken for them to be irrelevant for you, considering all the WAY MORE CONTROVERSIAL stuff they'd banned back in 4th Gen.

Meh, as for 4th Gen, Garchomp was ban worthy. Salamence, I was on the fence about, but I can understand why he was banned, even though I think they might have been overreacting. Shaymin-S and Latias are also ban worthy. I didn't think so at first, but after using them for a while, I could understand.
Banning Drizzle+Swift Swim was definitely reasonable. I would have doubtlessly done the same. Banning Blaziken... That wasn't fair. Even with speed boost, it isn't ban worthy. It's good, but it's certainly not broken. Not half as bad as all the F**KING SANDSTORM TEAMS!

 

[Teran]

Shaymin-S was so obviously uber before it was even beta tested.

I mean come on, Serene Grace + Seed Flare is ridiculous, how people even felt the need to test it was kind of a mystery to me. :/

 

[EpixAura]

Lol, I just noticed that I included Shaymin-S in the same sentence as Latias. I really just meant Latias. Silly me. I did want Shaymin to be OU, but that's just because I wanted some green on my team to make it prettier, and Shaymin-G was a little too weak.
I guess they only tested him because he was still too weak for Ubers.

 

[Flutter NiTE]

2>1>5>3>4 (never played 4, don't hate)

I enjoyed 2nd gen because of the introduction to Night and Day time. Also loved the Cell phone and Radio. <3 Da Bess.

Also, Crystal Version, still my fav. Pokemon game.

 

[saviorslegacy]

Just out of curiosity..... what do you all think of Bisharp?
I ran into him in the Elite 4 and hated his guts. After I beat the game I looked into him and then promptly caught him. I think this dude is going to shine.

ps The cell phone was annoying... I hated it.

 

[deepseadiva]

People liked the cell phone?

The vchecker thing? "Top percentage"?

Unintentionally comical, yea, but omg I hated that thing. It was like having Facebook chat open.

 

[UltiMario]

My two cents:
2 > 5 > 1 > 3 >> 4

Gen 4 really is only the bad gen IMO. 2 is only a hair better than 5, etc. It's all really close. Gen 4 though, breaks that mold and sucks pretty bad. It brought back a few good ideas, but they really took off in Gen V when they were used correctly.

2 is probably only higher than 5 because of spending 600 legit hours on Silver. I was ****ing addicted that that ****.

 

[Teran]

Man I still can't believe how much hate 4th gen gets.

It was soooo good.

Man I bought Ruby and got bored like halfway through it. I got Emerald as a gift sometime later and manage to suck it up and complete it out of duty, but many, never have I never been so :/ at a pokémon game in my life.