PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Fortress]

I think he is talking about having a single alt and then having that single alt have recolors.

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[Xermo]

You guys do realize Silp's point was that why can't the PMBR remodel ZA/MA Link and rig it to link the same way they remodeled Dry Bowser and rigged it over his bones, right? Because literally MOST if not ALL of the alternate costumes revealed are NEW MODELS RIGGED OVER BONES, in the same tier as brawlvault models, minus the professionalism.

 

[Silpheed]

Yes. Thank you. Level up. You get to put one point into Reading Comprehension.

Hey hey now. I'm not attacking you. I really had no clue what you were talking about. Let's not make this personal for no real reason.

If we can't discuss this without posts with the only intent to disrespect someone, then we have a problem.

You guys do realize Silp's point was that why can't the PMBR remodel ZA/MA Link and rig it to link the same way they remodeled Dry Bowser and rigged it over his bones, right? Because literally MOST if not ALL of the alternate costumes revealed are NEW MODELS RIGGED OVER BONES, in the same tier as brawlvault models, minus the professionalism.

This. That's literally what I've been saying. I'm glad someone is grasping what I'm saying. I even used SFxT as an example, and people just ignored it.

 

[Fortress]

You guys do realize Silp's point was that why can't the PMBR remodel ZA/MA Link

So that P:M doesn't turn into Genolloydrosalinagokushadowtabuumasterhandfanbuild2.7, if I have to repeat myself again. I mean, not that having more models and textures could hurt anything beyond space saved on our SD cards (if that's a thing), but, really. Come on. Why would we need fifty different characters and models.

Really, if I see Lloyd over Pit, I quit.

 

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THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE ZELDA TIMELINE CONSPIRACY THEORIES!

 

[Silpheed]

So that P:M doesn't turn into Genolloydrosalinagokushadowtabuumasterhandfanbuild2.7, if I have to repeat myself again. I mean, not that having more models and textures could hurt anything beyond space saved on our SD cards (if that's a thing), but, really. Come on. Why would we need fifty different characters and models.

Really, if I see Lloyd over Pit, I quit.

Dude, so what are you saying? You don't want ANY more new alts other than what has been shown now? Or you don't want anything but alternate costumes these same characters wore? Meaning half the cast who wears the same stuff in every game are out of luck?

 

[Fortress]

My point, plain and simple, is that it just comes off as more professional, and less fanbuild-ish, to have two models per character, with their own sets of recolors. It's just clean and pretty. If you really want to put any of the thousands of characters that people froth at the mouth for over another character, then just replace one of the defaults that you don't use.

Dude, so what are you saying? You don't want ANY more new alts other than what has been shown now? Or you don't want anything but alternate costumes these same characters wore? Meaning half the cast who wears the same stuff in every game are out of luck?

What I'm saying (again) for the fourth time (again) is that it's simply fanbuild-ish to have a build of the game officially released with thirty different models and textures for each character. If I want Magic Armor, I'll throw it over Red Link's default, because I hardly use it. Ditto for Zora Armor. If I want Travis Touchdown, I'll throw him over Ike's Red, because I don't use it. If I want Lloyd, I'll get my head checked, because why Lloyd.

It comes off as fanboyish.

 

[Xermo]

So that P:M doesn't turn into Genolloydrosalinagokushadowtabuumasterhandfanbuild2.7, if I have to repeat myself again. I mean, not that having more models and textures could hurt anything beyond space saved on our SD cards (if that's a thing), but, really. Come on. Why would we need fifty different characters and models.

Really, if I see Lloyd over Pit, I quit.

I'm not defending the whole "SHADOW OVER SANIC, CLOUD OVER IKE" thing, I'm just saying, the PMBR has already shown that their method for alternate costumes involve rigging a new model, yet many people that I've seen use the whole "IT'S A DIFFERENT MODEL, MIGHT MESS UP COLLISIONS." It's literally Link in some armor, not much of a difference say, Kratos over Marth. (Not to mention I've seen people all for Pit in glorious KI:U armor/gear without the backlash of collision arguments.) I completely see what you're defending and yes, in a way, I don't want to see a lot of bull**** costumes that give the sense we downloaded a bunch of kcmm hacks.

Also you seem to be ignoring this:

In these cases, that character could get multiple standalone costumes or even a mix of both.

The possibilities are endless. If they decide to give Link OoT and Armor, so be it. As long as they give Ness his pajamas, everything is right in the world.

 

[9bit]

Guys stop. Stahp. It's pointless to keep "arguing" about preferences and opinions. Fortress thinks it's this, someone else thinks it's not. Cool. End it.

Go back to posting awesome alt costume possibilities and speculation. Pls.

Like this awesome Captain Falcon that has probably been posted already but I'm not gonna go through 43 pages to check.

 

[Silpheed]

My point, plain and simple, is that it just comes off as more professional, and less fanbuild-ish, to have two models per character, with their own sets of recolors. It's just clean and pretty. If you really want to put any of the thousands of characters that people froth at the mouth for over another character, then just replace one of the defaults that you don't use.



What I'm saying (again) for the fourth time (again) is that it's simply fanbuild-ish to have a build of the game officially released with thirty different models and textures for each character. If I want Magic Armor, I'll throw it over Red Link's default, because I hardly use it. Ditto for Zora Armor. If I want Travis Touchdown, I'll throw him over Ike's Red, because I don't use it. If I want Lloyd, I'll get my head checked, because why Lloyd.

It comes off as fanboyish.

*sigh*

For the last time, hopefully. No where once did I make a suggestion for characters to have anymore than 1 alt. No where once did I suggest an alt for a character or franchise not already represented in Brawl to begin with. You clearly must have carried some conversation over from someone else and melded it into my own comments about what I would like to see an alts for chaarcters, because I didn't say anything regarding what you seem to be fundamentally against.

Can you please at least stay on board with what I'm saying?

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

Guys stop. Stahp. It's pointless to keep "arguing" about preferences and opinions. Fortress thinks it's this, someone else thinks it's not. Cool. End it.

Go back to posting awesome alt costume possibilities and speculation. Pls.

So you want us to not argue and never reply to anyone`s suggestion explaining why we like or dislike it or why that suggestion can`t happen because of the set rules?

 

[Fortress]

where once did I suggest an alt for a character or franchise not already represented in Brawl to begin with.

You didn't, and I'm not insinuating that you did. If I had that gigantic picture of that Melee fanbuild with a thousand characters in it, I'd post it here, because that's the comparison I'm making. It just comes off as fanbuild-ish.

I'm arguing against the whole "Hey, let's have costumes, x, y, z, 1, 2, and 3 on this character", and the sentiment seems superfluous. Why do we need to give a character thirteen different outfits when I can bet that most of us hardly use more than two?

I get it. You're making the point that the talent is out there to make some cool alts, and yes, you're right, there is. The point I'm making, is that it doesn't exactly come off as professional to have fifty different costumes per character. Again, if I had that picture with the "NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN" text over it with the thousand different characters in the character select, I'd post it, because that's the same sort of thing I'm talking about.

 

[9bit]

So you want us to not argue and never reply to anyone`s suggestion explaining why we like or dislike it or why that suggestion can`t happen because of the set rules?

It's cool to do that like... twice. But at this point you're just going in circles.

 

[Silpheed]

You didn't, and I'm not insinuating that you did. If I had that gigantic picture of that Melee fanbuild with a thousand characters in it, I'd post it here, because that's the comparison I'm making. It just comes off as fanbuild-ish.

I'm arguing against the whole "Hey, let's have costumes, x, y, z, 1, 2, and 3 on this character", and the sentiment seems superfluous. Why do we need to give a character thirteen different outfits when I can bet that most of us hardly use more than two?

When did I suggest any character have more than 1 alt?

 

[Fortress]

When did I suggest any character have more than 1 alt?

Link having Zora Armor and Magic Armor, unless I had a stroke and imagined that.

Also this.

Also, it would be awesome to see some of Samus' Prime series suits (Light and Dark, PED), and of course Dark Samus (Corruption) as alts.

But we're just beating around the bush at this point.

 

[Silpheed]

Link having Zora Armor and Magic Armor, unless I had a stroke and imagined that.

I didn't say anything about Zora/Magic Armor. You are indeed mistaken.

But we're just beating around the bush at this point.

I'd stated multiple times either one with suggestions. I'm not sure of all stipulations, but this convo has just been out of hand. And you aren't "beating around the bush", you are just being contentious and argumentative.

 

[Fortress]

you are just being contentious and argumentative.

Isn't that, like, in my forum bio or something? It should be if it isn't.

 

[Silpheed]

Isn't that, like, in my forum bio or something? It should be if it isn't.

No clue, sir. Good to be back after 7 years.

 

[red9rd]

Soo... getting back on track to the threads topic when are they going to add Lloyd Irving?

 

[Starcutter]

so I just came back to say my most wanted alt again just cause.

Spoiler

also why not have pokemon trainer's clothes over captain falcon just to spite the people who want pokemon trainer in by himself.
(actually please don't I'm one of those people)

 

[Fortress]

Soo... getting back on track to the threads topic when are they going to add Lloyd Irving?

You knock that off right this instant.

Also, what's up with Yoshi and Kirby? Is the general consensus still for more recolors?

Spoiler

Was it you who was suggesting a cape for this, as well? Oh, he has one, now I see it. I think it's great, minus the hair. Maybe make the cape longer. Speaking of, is that cape made using his dreads?

 

[Silpheed]

Ew. Not a fan.

 

[Starcutter]

Was it you who was suggesting a cape for this, as well? Oh, he has one, now I see it. I think it's great, minus the hair. Maybe make the cape longer. Speaking of, is that cape made using his dreads?

I did request it once earlier, yes. I do think the hair is a bit to much though. I really got to find (or make) a better picture for this idea, the hair is really bugging me.


also I don't think that the cape is made from his dreads, no.

 

[Fortress]

Ew. Not a fan.

I'm not a fan of that particular attempt at it, but I agree that Lucario with the hat and cape would be something that could work. It was something that at least had a lot of discussion going pages, and pages, and pages back. But, that hair is gross on Lucario.

 

[Starcutter]

But, that hair is gross on Lucario.

I think we can all agree on at least that.

everything else though is too good to set aside.

 

[red9rd]

Ooh did someone say Lloyd in the alternate costume thread?

Spoiler

 

[Starcutter]

Ooh did someone say Lloyd in the alternate costume thread?

way to kill the thread, pal.

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

way to kill the thread, pal.

He`s just messing around because fortress said that he hates Lloyd

 

[Xinc]

When I saw Llyod, I thought of

[spoilers]
nevermind, The Fire Emblem Lloyd. Spoilers don't wor.
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Disregarding that giant picture google has given me, I was wondering whether Young Link would be the other alt costumes for TL, with slightly remodeled bones.

 

[Starcutter]

He`s just messing around because fortress said that he hates Lloyd

and I was messing around since nobody posted since then.

Disregarding that giant picture google has given me, I was wondering whether Young Link would be the other alt costumes for TL, with slightly remodeled bones.

I think I saw a different hack of that once. maybe it will work, not sure. we'll have to wait until the project M guys come.

 

[arcticfox8]

Spoiler

Yes

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

Spoiler

Yes

He is already in the game as a recolor

 

[arcticfox8]

Its not the same. The laurels and the bow are different colors for starters. The recolor's laurels are black when you can clearly see in the picture I posted, Dark Pit's laurels are gold. Also, Dark Pit's bow is Silver, not Gold.

 

[Xinc]

Its not the same. The laurels and the bow are different colors for starters. The recolor's laurels are black when you can clearly see in the picture I posted, Dark Pit's laurels are gold. Also, Dark Pit's bow is Silver, not Gold.

Can it be easily differentiated on the TV screen then? Remember that people who are slightly more visually impaired play this game too. That's probably why Falco's lasers look slightly darker.

 

[l3thargy]

Spoiler

Yes

this doesn't need to be a alt costume, they should just recolor his black palette to be more accurate to dark pit instead.

 

[arcticfox8]

this doesn't need to be a alt costume, they should just recolor his black palette to be more accurate to dark pit instead.

I wouldn't mind that. In fact, I would prefer it.

 

[arcticfox8]

Can it be easily differentiated on the TV screen then? Remember that people who are slightly more visually impaired play this game too. That's probably why Falco's lasers look slightly darker.

If anything the visually impaired will have an easier time since the laurels will stick out and silver is vastly different from gold.

 

[Chzrm3]

If that's the case, then they failed pretty miserably. They barely talked about Majora's Mask and there's still a lot of theories. Personally, I like that. I love all of Termina's mysteries. It's good to have the facts we do though.

Yeah, I love the fact that everything that went down in Termina is this bizarre, inexplicable part of Link's life that just makes no sense. XD I'm glad Nintendo didn't try to explain all of it logically, that would kind of ruin the magic.

I was hoping it'd be the OoT Link design, honestly. I've always preferred that design to his Brawl/TP designs. The Zora/Magic Armors could have been cool, but I prefer this; I like the simplicity and the shades of the tunic more.

I wish they were doing white/gold/black though.

I'm hoping that white and black make it in the next update, yeah. That white tunic was just so awesome. I'd also really love it if TL got white and black tunics, haha.

Seriously, why is it that Link having different colored tunics gets me so excited? If we were talking about recolors for Marth or even my buddy DK, I'd be like "zzzzzz". But when it's Link, I want him to have every color in the rainbow. : >

Although a skin where DK's fur was Project M purple.... mmmmmmmm. Does that exist and I'm just forgetting it?

 

[TopTierPichu]

I hope we get a Lucas "Masked Man" alt (in one of the scenes Lucas dresses up as him to infiltrate Thunder Tower)