PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Shin F.]

found one! My question is, how would it be avoidable since it spans the whole screen horizontally? Would it just span the center of the screen (think ala Zelda's arrow)

Could just make it a cosmetic change of PK Starstorm but functionally the same.

 

[TimeSmash]

How though? PSI Rockin is a beam, and the comets are indiviual entities

 

[Shin F.]

How though? PSI Rockin is a beam, and the comets are indiviual entities

And PK Thunder is a column of lightning rather than a controllable sphere. PK Fire goes fully across the screen horizontally. PK Flash deals status effects rather than direct damage. Creative license. Besides, there are moments of the animation that look like beams falling from the sky. The only difference would be the lack of an explosion at the end.

 

[TimeSmash]

Oh doi. I left my brain in Threed.

I'd love to see that beam thing happen in 2D or 3D, or a creative variation like you said. It could be like the beams are the tails of the comets while the heads are concentrated PSI Rockin spheres.

On the topic of Final Smashes, it would be great if we didn't have repeats for any of the characters. Landmaster x3 is boring as hell

 

[Shin F.]

Oh doi. I left my brain in Threed.

I'd love to see that beam thing happen in 2D or 3D, or a creative variation like you said. It could be like the beams are the tails of the comets while the heads are concentrated PSI Rockin spheres.

On the topic of Final Smashes, it would be great if we didn't have repeats for any of the characters. Landmaster x3 is boring as hell

No repeats, hmm? If they were going to do that, they'd have to change:

Link or Toon Link: Obvious, just give TL an offensive version of the Ballad of Gales with his Wind Waker. There's already a PSA for such on the vault anyways.

Star Fox Trio: Give Falco the Arwing, obviously, not sure about Wolf, though. Maybe have him use a Cluster Bomb?

Mother Brothers: PK Rockin for Ness, could leave Lucas alone since it's been said his Up-Smash is PK Love. Could change it if they wanted as well, though.

Lucario / Mewtwo: Mega Evos are out, so not sure what else they might be able to do to change one of these.

 

[themaziest]

Totally agree with you Shin! Ballad of Gales for TL, Arwing for Falco, Wolfen for Wolf (which could be a SHMUP simulation à la Snake), Hyper Beam / Crystal Flash for Samus, and a buff for Konga Beat because why not. Most of these are purely cosmetic so it shouldn't take much time, bearing in mind that it's not really a priority.

Casual Hype for PM!

 

[TimeSmash]

I just thought about Wolf having Android Wolf properties, like from Starfox 64, but I don't know if that's allowed. Not really sure what his properties would be, something in the vein of WarioMan? I don't want to spoil Starfox 64 which is why the text is greyed out. Plus it's kind of an obtuse thing to go off of. I just want things to be unique!

And Konga Beat should get buffed or something. Craptastic!

Mewtwo could do something from the first movie. Remember when he made that storm? Or maybe something with his shadow Pokeballs, you get a couple to toss and it captures the person inside, kind of like Yoshi's egg, but pulsing and they're stuck for a while longer. Then you can inflict mass damage!

 

[Draco_The]

OoT Ganon for OoT Ganondorf plz

 

[themaziest]

I never play with FS but paradoxically this is the kind of detail that makes all the difference for overall appreciation. Same for new icons, new costumes, etc. So I don't think this would be a complete waste of time after all.

 

[CBO0tz]

INCOMING GANONDORF ALT COSTUME IDEA:

From the Hyrule Historia, Gerudo Ganondorf.

Mind you, I know he can't get any more costumes, but it seems like it would be cool if somebody (@ Nanobuds ) designed it as a mod.

 

[TimeSmash]

New stock icons would be a godsend, they just seem needed to differentiate from Brawl.

To be honest, new skins for all the characters overall (think smash 3) would be great, because then Brawl's models are ditched altogether. Though some people like the Brawl models for some characters (I do) and it would be hell to redo haha

 

[Nefnoj]

I think Olimar's Final Smash should use the SS Dolphin.

Which reminds me, if Project M does a Bad Ending Olimar... The Pikmin should totally wear Olimar Suits.

Is there a thread like this for PSA edits? Most of our proposed changes are cosmetic, which is the focus of the thread, though I have one that's not cosmetic at all:

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Olimar. If an opponent is in the range of his Down-Special, all the Pikmin except for one should jump onto him.

INCOMING GANONDORF ALT COSTUME IDEA:

From the Hyrule Historia, Gerudo Ganondorf.

Mind you, I know he can't get any more costumes, but it seems like it would be cool if somebody (@ Nanobuds ) designed it as a mod.

His Geeky expression is priceless, though personally, I want this from the vault:

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[CBO0tz]

Funny, I just found that dude's article on a thread last night and found out about it.

http://smashboards.com/threads/gannondorf-alternative-suits.387674/#post-18573352

I think it's good enough quality to be added to PM as a Giga-Bowser-esque transformation for Melee Ganondorf costumes.

 

[CBO0tz]

So.. Am I the only one who thinks that one of the Links should have the Bow replaced with the Sword Beam..? :|

 

[arcticfox8]

So.. Am I the only one who thinks that one of the Links should have the Bow replaced with the Sword Beam..? :|

yeah

 

[Nefnoj]

So.. Am I the only one who thinks that one of the Links should have the Bow replaced with the Sword Beam..? :|

Yup. Sorry, mate.

Though it would be cool if they could make it a thing if you're at 0 damage. But it'd have to be REALLY weak to balance i.

 

[Boo_Destroyer]

I don't think any of Peach's sports outfits would be acceptable for P:M as Peach has an attack where she uses her dress. Most of her sports outfits don't have a dress so it would be harder to see where the attack is.

I keep hearing about this a lot, but what move is it exactly where she "uses her dress". Heck, what does that even mean?

 

[TimeSmash]

Yup. Sorry, mate.

Though it would be cool if they could make it a thing if you're at 0 damage. But it'd have to be REALLY weak to balance i.

It could be like a Falco laser, but way slower and less usable haha. Maybe it'd function like Wolf's blaster, where the slash has a hitbox, too. Though then I'd suggest tying it to Ftilt or Jab. But what about Links who don't want this option when they're at zero? Maybe there'd be some way to turn it on or off.

I would also like a hidden donut/rice ball in one of the PM stages. For old time's sake

I keep hearing about this a lot, but what move is it exactly where she "uses her dress". Heck, what does that even mean?

DownSmash, Uair and Ftilt and Bair sort of.

 

[Smash John]

I keep hearing about this a lot, but what move is it exactly where she "uses her dress". Heck, what does that even mean?

Dsmash. I've tried dressless peach models before, and it really messes with the readability of the move.

 

[TimeSmash]

Dsmash. I've tried dressless peach models before, and it really messes with the readability of the move.

A workable solution would probably be to have some sort of outlining effect thing around her, like little puffs of smoke signifying where the move is. But that sounds weird to code and also may not look too great haha

 

[CBO0tz]

Alright, since the Sword beam is out of the question, what if one of the Links got a new F-tilt based off of Link's stab animation in Zelda II? I think that would be a useful move.

 

[TimeSmash]

Hehe I remember that game. Poke poke poke

The Ftilt animation is the very last two. It would be kind of nice to see the damage pose from this game, or any Zelda game, incorporated, if they aren't already. The crouching position is pretty spot on, as is the down thrust.

OMG new victory pose in the top right haha

 

[Nefnoj]

What if Samus' arm cannon shape or texture changed depending on the active beam?

 

[Nefnoj]

What'd y'all thinks about the unused content from Brawl? I would love to see them implement Kirby's charge-based Side-Special, and maybe change Zero Suits side-special to something that could deflect projectiles while grabbing items. Or something. Lots of unused voice clips that should be used. I'm glad they put in Diddy Kong's laugh, the other thing he did... Makes no sense, especially the sound. Which reminds me, what's with that wolf down taunt? He makes a weird windy sounds. The side taunt should do damage. Obviously. Maybe it does already and I just haven't gotten around to checking.
Don't let this thread die it's become my life.

 

[Xermo]

Which reminds me, what's with that wolf down taunt? He makes a weird windy sounds.

You mean his growl? Also, side taunt doesn't do damage (but yes it should).

 

[Nefnoj]

You mean his growl? Also, side taunt doesn't do damage (but yes it should).

"Growl"?
That's the weirdest growl I've ever heard...

 

[CBO0tz]

What'd y'all thinks about the unused content from Brawl? I would love to see them implement Kirby's charge-based Side-Special, and maybe change Zero Suits side-special to something that could deflect projectiles while grabbing items. Or something. Lots of unused voice clips that should be used. I'm glad they put in Diddy Kong's laugh, the other thing he did... Makes no sense, especially the sound. Which reminds me, what's with that wolf down taunt? He makes a weird windy sounds. The side taunt should do damage. Obviously. Maybe it does already and I just haven't gotten around to checking.
Don't let this thread die it's become my life.

I think the Laughing Diddy taunt could be a hilarious Smash taunt. And I thought you could already move around with Kirby's Side-B?
ZSS's grab would be cool if you could grab items on the ground or in mid-air, but the throwing animations would have to be really sped up.
Is that cut Wolf stomping taunt-thing in PM? I've never seen it before.

 

[Nefnoj]

I think the Laughing Diddy taunt could be a hilarious Smash taunt. And I thought you could already move around with Kirby's Side-B?
ZSS's grab would be cool if you could grab items on the ground or in mid-air, but the throwing animations would have to be really sped up.
Is that cut Wolf stomping taunt-thing in PM? I've never seen it before.

I don't think either of those animations are in 3.5 in terms of Kirby and Wolf. The laughing Diddy kong is, it replaces the... Tail thing. That weird one he does while making some strange out-of-place unnatural sound.

There are a lot of strange out-of-place unnatural sounds in Brawl I noticed.

 

[CBO0tz]

Then WE MUST GET THEM BACK.

The jab attack..? That's the only tail thing that comes to mind with Diddy.

Eh. I guess.

We need more Super Mario sound effects for the Bros tho. In Smash 4 Mario's Fireballs make a Super Mario Bros sound effect when he hits people with one

 

[Nefnoj]

Then WE MUST GET THEM BACK.
The jab attack..? That's the only tail thing that comes to mind with Diddy.

Sounds like someone needs to play as Diddy Kong more often, hahaha!
Naw, Diddy Kong does a thing where he... Does a thing. It's one of his taunts, it's really weird, I'm glad they replaced it. He stuck out his hands, made a strange out-of-place unnatural sound, and shook his tail.

We need more Super Mario sound effects for the Bros tho. In Smash 4 Mario's Fireballs make a Super Mario Bros sound effect when he hits people with one

Yes!
Yes.
Especially when footstooling.

 

[Nefnoj]

So I was playing Brawl today...Don't ask why.

...Yeah, Project M needs new CSP's, Brawl feels and looks so... DIFFERENT.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

...Yeah, Project M needs new CSP's, Brawl feels and looks so... DIFFERENT.

Couldn't agree more. Also, there are many talented artists that already did some really good CSPs. Why the PMDT isn't using it is beyond me.

So I was playing Brawl today...Don't ask why.

Okay, I won't...Why?

 

[Nefnoj]

Why?

DANGIT SG9000, YOU WERE MY BROTHER, I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU!!

Spoiler

Someone is hosting a Brawl tournament at my college. Sadly, he's borrowing the Wii which doesn't yet have the glory of Project M, thus, he can't make changes to it. I was practicing. It's painful.

I really want AlGeorgeRomo to make 'em, his CSP's are BEAUTIFUL.

 

[Nanobuds]

Couldn't agree more. Also, there are many talented artists that already did some really good CSPs. Why the PMDT isn't using it is beyond me.

If we were to make some, we would rather make them all ourselves.

 

[ConDeeCas]

"If we were to make some, we would rather make them all ourselves." - Nanobuds, 2015 so basically new CSPs confirmed

 

[Nanobuds]

Nah. We just prefer to not take work from those outside of the PMDT.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Besides, it's not like it's impossible to get some CSP from those artists.

 

[CBO0tz]

So in the vain of how Tink's Red/Blue/Purple outfits should have the Four Sword in place of their regular swords, his Classic Link outfit should have a scabbard and shield based off of the classic Zelda ones as well.

EDIT: While we're at it, make his Dark Link outfit have an appropriately colored scabbard and shield as well.
EDIT2: Here's the colored Links' Four Sword scabbard for reference.

EDIT 3(!!!): I'm just going to post some photos of Legend of Zelda items that could be potentially changed for different costumes for Tink.

Magical Boomerang for Classic Tink?

Magical Rod as a replacement for the Wind Waker in his taunt?

Bow and Arrow replacement for the Four Swords Recolor Tinks?

Classic Tink's Bow and Arrow?

Realistic Tiny Fairy girl for the Four Swords' Fairy Smash taunt? (I think Tink already has a realistic fairy in his taunt so ignore this one if he does)

8-Bit Sprite for Classic Tink costume?

 

[ConDeeCas]

So in the vain of how Tink's Red/Blue/Purple outfits should have the Four Sword in place of their regular swords, his Classic Link outfit should have a scabbard and shield based off of the classic Zelda ones as well.

EDIT: While we're at it, make his Dark Link outfit have an appropriately colored scabbard and shield as well.
EDIT2: Here's the colored Links' Four Sword scabbard for reference.

EDIT 3(!!!): I'm just going to post some photos of Legend of Zelda items that could be potentially changed for different costumes for Tink.

Magical Boomerang for Classic Tink?

Magical Rod as a replacement for the Wind Waker in his taunt?

Bow and Arrow replacement for the Four Swords Recolor Tinks?

Classic Tink's Bow and Arrow?

Realistic Tiny Fairy girl for the Four Swords' Fairy Smash taunt? (I think Tink already has a realistic fairy in his taunt so ignore this one if he does)

8-Bit Sprite for Classic Tink costume?

This would actually be super mega awesomely awesome.

 

[Nixie]

i wonder if there could be any way to give oot ganondorf sfx from melee

i miss the confident evil laugh he had, as opposed to this sickly sounding one