PM Arts and Alts Thread

[EdgeTheLucas]

I just used that example to say those rules are not sacred ones. There can be exceptions.

Ah, gotcha.

 

[Nefnoj]

I just used that example to say those rules are not sacred ones. There can be exceptions.

When I install mods, I go by very similar strict standards, here's what I think of it: If a character CAN'T dress up like it - it doesn't work. For instance, Sonic can dye his quills, (hair?) wear contacts, and change his shoes, BAM, he can look like Tails. Link CAN dress up like Link, Luigi CAN dress up like Mr. L, etc. If they were to do the Hero's Shade, I think it would be so that Link is wearing the armour. WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME. Since Hero's Shade only has one eye, Link should have an eyepatch.

 

[QuickRat]

When I install mods, I go by very similar strict standards, here's what I think of it: If a character CAN'T dress up like it - it doesn't work. For instance, Sonic can dye his quills, (hair?) wear contacts, and change his shoes, BAM, he can look like Tails. Link CAN dress up like Link, Luigi CAN dress up like Mr. L, etc. If they were to do the Hero's Shade, I think it would be so that Link is wearing the armour. WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME. Since Hero's Shade only has one eye, Link should have an eyepatch.

You're giving physical reasons, which I agree. But my point was in the canon/rules reason.

 

[NinfanNanz]

The Identity of a character rule is a little ambiguous I guess, seeing that there seem to be different interpretations of it. I think of it as if the alt is clearly associated with the character, it's in the rules. For example, OOT Link may not be TP Link, but it's still Link. You can't mistake him for Ike or for Marth. You can't mistake any of the alt costumes as another character, as the character is still fairly easy to identify. I think all alt costumes fall under that umbrella.

 

[Narpas_sword]

Sonic can dye his quills, (hair?) wear contacts,

 

[QuickRat]

The Identity of a character rule is a little ambiguous I guess, seeing that there seem to be different interpretations of it. I think of it as if the alt is clearly associated with the character, it's in the rules. For example, OOT Link may not be TP Link, but it's still Link. You can't mistake him for Ike or for Marth. You can't mistake any of the alt costumes as another character, as the character is still fairly easy to identify. I think all alt costumes fall under that umbrella.

It depends on the exact character. For example, Dark Samus as Samus wouldn't be a good choice. But several Link incarnations are welcome. A Marth cosplay from another Nintendo series wouldn't be cool, but it is if Sonic gains a Jet Set Radio one. I think they must talk about each character although there are some general rules in there.

 

[RKM]

We need presidential hype.

 

[Crixler]

So they flexed the rules just for Link, Zelda, Shiek, and Ganondorf.

Minor correction: It's still the same Ganondorf. Other than Four Swords Adventures, all Ganondorfs are the same character.
(Note that I have yet to play Hyrule Warriors, so I don't know if that's a Ganondorf we've seen before. But since it's unfortunately non-canon, it's not super relevant anyway, I suppose).

But otherwise, yes.

 

[Comeback Kid]

I have a workaround with the possibility that Link and Zelda are just reincarnations of the same person, but I don't think anybody likes that idea.

 

[F. Blue]

Big Boss is still Snake. Both these franchises operate under the pretense that a single character spans multiple generations.

 

[Draco_The]

Well, the Brawl character isn't Solid Snake nor Punished Snake/Big Boss/etc. Even though he's called Solid Snake in-game he has features from both characters.

 

[Comeback Kid]

^ This is true.

 

[Sour Supreme]

Conclusion: The PMDT do what they want.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

We need presidential hype.

I just want muh clone Charizard. He can worry about becoming president later.

 

[Mushguy]

The shading you have done on Zelda is excellent, but Sheik's design needs some extra work, not only in shading and detail, but also adding some femininity to her, like she currently has in the Ocarina remake. You don't want people insinsing that OoT Sheik=Male Brawl Sheik=Female, when that's not even true, do you?

I'm very excited for the new stages. We were talking about N64 stages remakes just a few weeks ago too. I can't wait to see Saffron City HD.

Also, does OOT Zelda replace the OOT inspired color swap in Brawl?

Something tells me that one of her alternate colors will use TP Zelda's colors.

 

[F. Blue]

Sheik is male. He has clearly defined pectorals, and his shoulder to hip ratio is impossible for a woman.

 

[Mushguy]

Sheik is male. He has clearly defined pectorals, and his shoulder to hip ratio is impossible for a woman.

Seriously...

Nintendo has been trying to make more clear that Sheik is just a girl in drag, and the Ocarina remake is no exception. So you really shouldn't rely anymore on outdated artwork that was only made to mislead the player.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Sheik is male. He has clearly defined pectorals, and his shoulder to hip ratio is impossible for a woman.

Don't you ****ing dare start this ****.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

The shading you have done on Zelda is excellent, but Sheik's design needs some extra work, not only in shading and detail, but also adding some femininity to her, like she currently has in the Ocarina remake. You don't want people insinsing that OoT Sheik=Male Brawl Sheik=Female, when that's not even true, do you?
Something tells me that one of her alternate colors will use TP Zelda's colors.

I'm glad that they didn't add more feminine traits to make it more like the OOT3D model, because this costume sticks out more from Brawl Sheik without them.

 

[Mushguy]

I'm glad that they didn't add more feminine traits to make it more like the OOT3D model, because this costume sticks out more from Brawl Sheik without them.

They could add the feminine traits and still stick out from Brawl Sheik because of the costume and lack of braid in her hair, so it's still possible.

Edit: By the way...

Darn rigging! This shouldn't even happen between her legs!

 

[THEDADPOOL]

project m should make lucario's darker gi look a little more like akuma's and give him purple aura in that alt

 

[CBO0tz]

project m should make lucario's darker gi look a little more like akuma's and give him purple aura in that alt

They didn't base it off Akuma, so they're probably not gonna do that.

 

[PlateProp]

I kind of hope that they brighten all of the costumes or something, otherwise all the OOT/Melee costumes look bad and out of place :/

I will say that the addition of more detail in the csps of melee Falco and Fox makes me like the costumes slightly more.

 

[Nanobuds]

They could add the feminine traits and still stick out from Brawl Sheik because of the costume and lack of braid in her hair, so it's still possible.

Edit: By the way...

Darn rigging! This shouldn't even happen between her legs!

Eheh. The bulge will be fixed... other than that, we are sticking to the more masculine traits that OoT originally had.

Actually... I'm pretty sure Brawl Sheik was used as a base model... so the chest and hips are the same as Brawl. But I don't remember, so I'll double check.

 

[PlateProp]

Eheh. The bulge will be fixed... other than that, we are sticking to the more masculine traits that OoT originally had.

Actually... I'm pretty sure Brawl Sheik was used as a base model... so the chest and hips are the same as Brawl. But I don't remember, so I'll double check.

Will all of the costumes be getting a retool to make them brighter? The oot/melee costumes look way out of place and kind of ugly with everything else being in Brawl's style when in game atm :x

 

[THEDADPOOL]

They didn't base it off Akuma, so they're probably not gonna do that.

i realize they didn't but since the white one is based off of ryu (iirc) and the whole traditional fighters. (streetfighter,KoF, etc.) it would be neat if they made the darker one more akuma feeling and purple aura would make it a lot cool imo.

 

[Mushguy]

Eheh. The bulge will be fixed... other than that, we are sticking to the more masculine traits that OoT originally had.

Well, shucks at the last part. People are going to insist on the wrong thing.

 

[MLGF]

Will all of the costumes be getting a retool to make them brighter? The oot/melee costumes look way out of place and kind of ugly with everything else being in Brawl's style when in game atm :x

They're a little off putting at first, but it quickly becomes easy to forget. Happened with 3.0 alts, will happen now.

 

[Knight Dude]

I like that Classic Captain Falcon costume, and the Light Suit Samus. Probably some of the best looking alts in Project M.

 

[CBO0tz]

i realize they didn't but since the white one is based off of ryu (iirc) and the whole traditional fighters. (streetfighter,KoF, etc.) it would be neat if they made the darker one more akuma feeling and purple aura would make it a lot cool imo.

Yeeah.. I guess you're right. But they still won't do that.

 

[PlateProp]

i realize they didn't but since the white one is based off of ryu (iirc) and the whole traditional fighters. (streetfighter,KoF, etc.) it would be neat if they made the darker one more akuma feeling and purple aura would make it a lot cool imo.

It's not based on Ryu, it's based on the Black Belt trainer class from pokemon, with some items thrown in.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_Belt_(Trainer_class)

They're a little off putting at first, but it quickly becomes easy to forget. Happened with 3.0 alts, will happen now.

Yeah...no. The costumes still look way out of place to me, otherwise I wouldn't have said anything.

 

[THEDADPOOL]

It's not based on Ryu, it's based on the Black Belt trainer class from pokemon, with some items thrown in.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Black_Belt_(Trainer_class)

well in the OP theres a section that says ideals of alts and the ones highlighted in green are ones that are going to be in the game and LucaRYU is one of the few highlighted in green

 

[Comeback Kid]

I don't think anybody is actually against brightening up the Mario cast in particular.

They don't have to go Smash 3 style of crazy with it just go one shade lighter than now.

The darkness in the colors is accurate to Twilight Princess however.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Will all of the costumes be getting a retool to make them brighter? The oot/melee costumes look way out of place and kind of ugly with everything else being in Brawl's style when in game atm :x

I'm just gonna say that making TP Link brighter would make OOT Link stick out even less.

 

[Nanobuds]

well in the OP theres a section that says ideals of alts and the ones highlighted in green are ones that are going to be in the game and LucaRYU is one of the few highlighted in green

Well in the OP, under CONFIRMED COSTUMES, it says Fighting Gi Lucario.

AKA GiCario. I don't see Ryu anywhere in there.

 

[Sour Supreme]

The OP says Lucaryu, because this was the name given by whoever suggested the costume as an idea.

The PMDT's alt was a similar idea, just based off of different mediums, so I highlighted Lucaryu.

 

[PlateProp]

Cockiness fail

Yet still ignored by nano

Sad days for PlateProp.

 

[CBO0tz]

Cockiness fail

Yet still ignored by nano

Sad days for PlateProp.

#rekt

I wonder if Nano's gonna explain how they're gonna have all 5 Melee costumes on Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf without getting rid of one of the originals.

 

[Blitzus]

Can we have Shortsleeved Mario with Permanent Fludd?

Fludd's already a texture in, so would it be at all possible?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111108005723/mario/images/6/6d/Mario_SMS.png

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Can we have Shortsleeved Mario with Permanent Fludd?

Fludd's already a texture in, so would it be at all possible?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111108005723/mario/images/6/6d/Mario_SMS.png

Mario doesn't have any more costume slots right now.