PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Nefnoj]

My guess? Another trailer, stage, or multiple costumes for multiple characters.

I just got back...

MY GUESS WAS 100% SPOT ON. AND I WASN'T EVEN TRYING.

I'M GOING TO CRY NOW.

 

[Nanobuds]

ASL code. Unfortunately it's kinda wonky, but maybe someone will work on it down the line and it'll get included for PM.

@ Nanobuds I have a question about the HD stages, do they have the same boundaries and collisions as the low quality versions or no? Isai's house looks very different on Hyrule Castle.

The only difference is the hut thing on the right of the stage (Isai's house?)

Its collisions are HARDLY different though. So its no biggie. Boundaries are the same.

 

[StarshipGroove]

Something that I haven't see anybody mention: the rushing wind sound that occurs after power hits from Melee IS BACK
Ganondorf's bair has a cool eletric trail following his fist, more character moves should have that

Kaepora you cheeky owl I'm onto you

 

[Narpas_sword]

Can we expect seeecret surprise alts unrevealed before release as a result?

Anyone else read this a dozen times and still not know what he means?

unrevealed? like 'haha, we are taking the images away now'?

and surely you can't expect surprise alts...

 

[Shin F.]

Anyone else read this a dozen times and still not know what he means?

unrevealed? like 'haha, we are taking the images away now'?

and surely you can't expect surprise alts...

ZSS obviously has some, so it's not a stretch that there are other alts yet to be revealed.

 

[Nefnoj]

ZSS obviously has some, so it's not a stretch that there are other alts yet to be revealed.

Some nonspecific bloke of the Project M team said that they're purposefully not revealing everything. Which I prefer.

The only difference is the hut thing on the right of the stage (Isai's house?)

Its collisions are HARDLY different though. So its no biggie. Boundaries are the same.

I just took it to the Google, why's it called... "Isai's House"?

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

I think they might still show more alt costumes even though Art Tuesdays are over. We thought we saw all of the alt costumes for 3.0 when we saw this video:

But then on the night 3.0 released we got a ton more info.

Even if they don't do it pre-release I think there'll be some surprises when we boot up 3.5 after downloading it.

"WHOA, I never would have thought of THAT for a Charizard costume!"

I can just imagine

 

[Nefnoj]

The Shogun dedede has added horns and orange fur color on a coat. I don't know the others.

I noticed - his back, eyebrows, and hair-wrap are also different.

 

[McSlur]

Some nonspecific bloke of the Project M team said that they're purposefully not revealing everything. Which I prefer.


I just took it to the Google, why's it called... "Isai's House"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2ATy53FSb8

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

Anyone else read this a dozen times and still not know what he means?

unrevealed? like 'haha, we are taking the images away now'?

and surely you can't expect surprise alts...

apologies if the question was inarticulate, I typed that up on a phone while walking so I was a bit distracted. Unrevealed meaning not yet revealed in an Art Tuesday or otherwise.

Anyway, nefnoj answered the question - thankfully, we haven't seen everything yet.

 

[InfinityCollision]

When you see it...

Someone on Reddit found that within like half an hour of the art thread going up.

 

[Shin F.]

When you see it...

Someone on Reddit found that within like half an hour of the art thread going up.

Spoiler

What does it mean?!?!

 

[U-Throw]

When you see it...

Someone on Reddit found that within like half an hour of the art thread going up.

They've teased this before, I believe. It could refer to the max amount of CE characters being 46, and maybe they've found a way to breach that? Beats the snot outta me...

 

[EdgeTheLucas]

What does it mean?!?!

It means they're gonna repeat the 47 joke 47 times.

All without any payoff.

It was all just to see us squirm.

 

[Shin F.]

It means they're gonna repeat the 47 joke 47 times.

All without any payoff.

It was all just to see us squirm.

How many times is this now? I know there was one in the April Fools vid, one in the All-Star Versus trailer, and now this. I think there was another one, as well, but I can't remember where.

Edit: The CEO trailer, that's where it was.

 

[Anti Guy]

Nobody commenting on the flying object in the sky as Zelda is taunting in the last few seconds of the video?

 

[U-Throw]

Spoiler

Well, maybe... Not really sure, but I think the PMDT might just be mega-screwing with our heads. Check this out:
http://www.47.net/47society/47story/

 

[InfinityCollision]

Nobody commenting on the flying object in the sky as Zelda is taunting in the last few seconds of the video?

Too small to tell. I saw speculation about it being Skull Kid, but it could just as easily (and arguably more logically) be Kaepora Gaebora flying around.

 

[Shin F.]

Nobody commenting on the flying object in the sky as Zelda is taunting in the last few seconds of the video?

Looks like a bird, so I would guess it's Kaepora Gaebora - they showed him perched on the stage earlier in the trailer, so he probably also flies around it.

 

[Narpas_sword]

ZSS obviously has some, so it's not a stretch that there are other alts yet to be revealed.

i think you missed the point =p

surely if you expect them, they're not surprises.

 

[arcticfox8]

Nobody commenting on the flying object in the sky as Zelda is taunting in the last few seconds of the video?

It's clearly Ridley

 

[Comeback Kid]

Better they start preparing to release this thing than indulge us with more art.

Plus, there is the launch trailer to look forward to.

 

[NinfanNanz]

Alright I went through and compared all the shots. Most of them were relatively unchanged and I couldn't find the difference. Here are the 4 that I found different (excluding DK).
Ike

Spoiler

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Has different Armor shine.

Link

Spoiler

Holds his sword differently and angrier expression. Eyebrows appear to be bigger as well. Link's sword is the OOT one now.

Lucario (Just a pose difference)

Spoiler

Dedede

Spoiler

Design on back changed, Orange Fur on coat, and horns.

Those are the ones that I saw. Can't tell if there are more.
All the 3.0 renders seemed to have gotten an upgrade in quality as well.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Link's sword hilt is itself different, no longer the Twilight Princess model.

And DK got a new pose too.

 

[NinfanNanz]

Link's sword hilt is itself different, no longer the Twilight Princess model.

And DK got a new pose too.

Thank you for the Link info, Ill update.
for DK, i didn't have any old pose to compare to, since the CSP was the brawl one. There was no official render till now.

 

[Nefnoj]

Spoiler

View attachment 27911

What does it mean?!?!

I couldn't see that... Until I tilted my monitor WAAAY more than I should've

 

[Xermo]

Is the Harmony of Heroes music just used for the trailer only or is a Harmony of Heroes brstm pack planned to be in 3.5? Just wondering since Harmony of Heroes has the most amazing unofficial remixes I ever heard and having it 3.5 would be amazing.

I love how Kaepora Gaebora flys in the background and oversee's the battle in the background.

The HoH director contacted me and asked if I could provide the BRSTMs for their site release (if they don't do it themselves), but until that releases, you can always go over here. Though Pikmin's BRSTMs don't exactly have seamless loops.

 

[kaizo13]

what got me the most hyped about the tuesday art finale were those smooth ass wavelands!

we melee now?

 

[Comeback Kid]

Updated stage collisions + Screen KOs + Black Tunic Link + HD remastered stages that put any found on Brawl Vault to shame = Game of the Year.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Shogun Dedede is pretty damn different now. Made him more different from vBrawl Dedede.

Ike recolors also got completely re-done. Other have gotten small, minor edits.

Any hope of Ike having a Greil recolor, then?

 

[kaizo13]

i noticed the new armored ike has bigger shoulder pads

 

[Exodo]

Spoiler

The cape is indeed red and gold, like the OoT cape, but the pattern on the cape is the Melee one. The rest of his attire has various differences between the two, as well. This PM Ganondorf is halfway between the two.

Spoiler

It uses the Melee boots, the Melee cape attachment method, the Melee cape design, the OoT cape colors, pants and shirt are both black, like Melee, the top half of his... leotard thing is the OoT design, but the lower half is the Melee design, kneepads use elements of both, shoulders are kind of a cool mixture of both, gloves are mostly melee, belt is OoT, forehead crest thing is Melee.

Obviously, their goal was to try to use take the best of both worlds, though I personally would have preferred a pure OoT design. But most of that could be changed with just a retexture, which I'll probably do myself eventually.
I'm just picky.

well one thing is true, the cape attachment in Oot Ganon looks waay better than melees. and the forehead thingy looks way more badass aswell, well your right, giving it more Oot designs would of been better.

 

[BronzeGreekGod]

well one thing is true, the cape attachment in Oot Ganon looks waay better than melees. and the forehead thingy looks way more badass aswell, well your right, giving it more Oot designs would of been better.

I would have liked to see a separate OOT version and Melee version. that would have been nice.

 

[Flaming Dragon Wang]

Alright I went through and compared all the shots. Most of them were relatively unchanged and I couldn't find the difference. Here are the 4 that I found different (excluding DK).
Ike

Spoiler

.

Has different Armor shine.

Looks like Ike's pauldrons (I believe that's what the shoulder armor is called) are bigger now as well.

 

[Exodo]

guys its all confirmed now, the giant 47, the legend of zelda exclusive video on the PM youtube page, it all comes down to this...
Majora CONFIRMED!!!(hopefully)

 

[U-Throw]

guys its all confirmed now, the giant 47, the legend of zelda exclusive video on the PM youtube page, it all comes down to this...
Majora CONFIRMED!!!(hopefully)

Sorry if I sound like a total n00b (which I probably do), but what does 47 have to do with Majora?

 

[Shin F.]

Sorry if I sound like a total n00b (which I probably do), but what does 47 have to do with Majora?

Event 47 in Melee was a Trophy Tussle on Majora's Mask, for the Majora's Mask trophy.

 

[Exodo]

Sorry if I sound like a total n00b (which I probably do), but what does 47 have to do with Majora?

Melees's event match 47 stage was Majora's mask(literally) basically you where fighting on the Majora's mask, since this is PM(Project Melee) thats what people have been speculating. the reveal will go like this: Project M, more like Project... Majora!!!
or thats how envision it...

 

[JRC LSS]

I knew if the PMDT tried to tackle the N64 stages, they would make them look good, but I had no idea they could make it look THIS GOOD! Seriously, it's perfect! I really can't even imagine it being done better. The melee/oot zelda and sheik look amazing as well. Thank you PMDT!!!!!

 

[Commander Hen]

I just took it to the Google, why's it called... "Isai's House"?

Isai Alvarado, one of the greatest Smash players, is known to have introduced god combos off of it in Smash 64 because you can't tech walls in that game. "Hell House" suits it better though.