Plusle and Minun, anyone?

[Diddy Kong]

While, pokemon 1. Give Nintendo a hella lot of money 2. Opened the doors for the fludd of anime cartoons (Im very thankful for that) and 3. Is one of the best turn based games ever AND got people into turn based games (those who didn't like it before ).

You may think 4 is enuff but many people think other wise. I say 7-6 is a good number as long as they are unique and fun to play . . . .

Yeah but now you name up 6~7 Pokemon (including Pikachu, Jiggz, Pichu and Mew2) who actually are populair, unique and able to fight outside the Pokemon RPG. Likes as Blastoise or Swampert are no way like that.

 

[Rash]

As I pointed out in the other thread: uniqueness is something that will help with the decision to add more Pokemon into Smash Brothers. Plusle and Minun are unique in that they are 1) a team of two pokemon, and 2) they don't evolve. However, they're pretty much two Pichus. You can't disagree with that; not only do they both look like Pichu (being electric rodents) but they have the same basic attacks.

The "team" thing is all they really have going for them. I'm convinced that it's just not enough to make them valuable to the SSBB roster. I can't stress enough that the uniqueness is an important factor. Since 90% of the Smash Community want Pichu out of Smash Bros. you can pretty much say goodbye to the possibility of them being in the new game.

Think people! There's a mind-blowing number of better choices out there.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

I'll sum this up.

Basically, Plusle and Minun in Brawl are the worst ideas ever since forks and spoons.

 

[s_smash_king]

think.... conserve...

Even if they did have Plusle and Minun in the new SSBB i wouldent want them as 2 different charcters. They would have to be a team! Like ice climbers.

 

[Shadow Calibur]

Bah! The only electric rodent I want in Brawl is Pikachu. And besides, I REALLY don't wanna turn the ENTIRE Pokemon part of the Brawl roster into something huggable, kissable, AND cuddly.

There's PLENTY of other Pokemon that are much better than those two rats. Deoxys, Lucario, Tyranitar, Aggron, Dragonite- I could go on and on.

Plus they'd be too similar to Pichu.

 

[Black/Light]

Diddy Kong. . . Thats it!! I have tried 3 TIMES to post why my choices are good but my EFFIN computer F###s up everytime I try to post it.

I give up, I have tried to make a nice long post listing why my 7-8 choices are good/ unique 3 whole times but my D@@@ computer craps out when I press sumit (and my copy/paste is F@@@ing up). You win cause Im not doing that long @$$ post again just to have my computer crap out.


EDIT- NOW THIS F@@@ COMPUTER WANTS TO POST AND NOT TAP OUT?!?!?! F@@@, I HATE THIS D@@@ COMPUTER!!!

 

[fluffy]

Don't double post.

!! sum1 double posted?

 

[McFox]

Don't spam our forum, either.

 

[NukeA6]

While, pokemon 1. Give Nintendo a hella lot of money 2. Opened the doors for the fludd of anime cartoons (Im very thankful for that) and 3. Is one of the best turn based games ever AND got people into turn based games (those who didn't like it before ).

You may think 4 is enuff but many people think other wise. I say 7-6 is a good number as long as they are unique and fun to play . . . .

But did Pokemon save videogame world? Did it revolutionized gaming?

It did none of that. It was only popular for 5 years before it fazed out. It was just a fad.

If it weren't for Super Mario Bros, there would be no videogames. If Pokemon didn't exist, it wouldn't matter.

You don't see anyone saying they hate Mario. There was several anti-Pokemon site made during the Pokemon rage yet you don't see anything against the Super Mario Bros series.

Everyone knows Mario as a big gaming icon and Pokemon as a fad.

 

[Rash]

Eh, Pokemon for it's first few years was the only decent "monster battling" concept. Other series of games, shows, and cards like Yu-Gi-Oh and Monster Rancher never really had the same following. However, Yu-Gi-Oh really annoys the hell out of me.

Pokemon was great until they started milking the hell out of if, just like they do with most concepts these days.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

ONLY if they replaced Pichu.

Then again, why would Nintendo want to take out a bad charcter, only to have two different-colored versions of the bad charcter?

Worse than Pichu's chances of returning, and that's loww!

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

I don't think we ought to write off Pichu just yet, there's still the Japan factor - if he/she/it is still popular with the brat population of Japan then it may be likey he'll stay. But hopefully Sakurai realizes he's almost universally hated in the West, where Pokefever died out some time ago... Maybe he'll be a Japan exclusive - lucky them...

 

[TAMASHI]

I think it's a good idea, but It would be for better if they replaced Pichu. Then we'd have 4 characters that all do the same thing...=/

 

[#HBC | marshy]

This idea is crap, Pichu is even better than this.

Masta Shef sucks.

 

[gamelover15]

Another team? I wouldn't like it. In addition, Desynching thunderbolts would be the ultimate (and cheap) edge-guard move! Just think, Machine gun bolts...

 

[Jolteon]

The only problem here is that everyone is just viewing them as a team version of Pikachu.

If any of you still played Pokémon today, you'd know that they are actually quite different from Pikachu/Pichu.

Sure, you can brush them off as a team possibility and say just add in Hammer Bros or whatever, but one fact remains that Plusle/Minun are probably the team that work together the most. They not only work in perfect order, but they gain a natural power boost off of each other. It's written into their genes to work together pretty much. :/

Ditch Pichu and add these in as a team. Nobody likes Pichu anymore. :x

 

[NukeA6]

Ditch Pichu and add these in as a team. Nobody likes Pichu anymore. :x

Nobody would like these Pokemon either. Enough of the electric rats. There are other Pokemon out there.

 

[magnebula]

Im strangely comfortable with this idea. Ive never heard of them before reading this thread just now, but Id take them over Raichu any day. Wow, thumbs up to you for thinkin of this.

 

[Eaode]

I think Pichu's getting cut though. but there are much better pokemon (Blaziken or Deoxus, to name a couple)

 

[Jolteon]

Nobody would like these Pokemon either. Enough of the electric rats. There are other Pokemon out there.

Like I said: If you still played Pokémon today, you'd know that they are actually quite different from Pikachu/Pichu.

 

[NukeA6]

Like I said: If you still played Pokémon today, you'd know that they are actually quite different from Pikachu/Pichu.

I already know they're different from Pikachu and Pichu but they're still electric rats and that's enough for me to say no to them.

 

[Yellow Mage]

The only problem here is that everyone is just viewing them as a team version of Pikachu.

If any of you still played Pokémon today, you'd know that they are actually quite different from Pikachu/Pichu.

Sure, you can brush them off as a team possibility and say just add in Hammer Bros or whatever, but one fact remains that Plusle/Minun are probably the team that work together the most. They not only work in perfect order, but they gain a natural power boost off of each other. It's written into their genes to work together pretty much. :/

Ditch Pichu and add these in as a team. Nobody likes Pichu anymore. :x

Though I like Pichu, and play him occasionally, he's still getting the boot, most likely. Poor Pichu . Ah, well. . .



Other than that, you took the words directly out of my mouth! This post could not BE any more accurate if you tried! I thought I was the only one who knew all that and thought that way, but I'm glad there's somebody who DOES check thier facts .



So, once again, THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[Black/Light]

. . . I might not like the idle of more Pikas but lets face it. . . they are hella popular in Japan and would be a pretty unique character team. They seem to be to the 3rd gen what Pichu is to the 2nd gen and what Munchlex is to the 4th gen. . .a mascot for their gen.

Yeah, people out-side of Japan want Blaziken and Deoxy as the 3rd gen pokemon but we really have no idle which pokemon is going to be chosen out-side of Lucario (who could be bumped off by Munch). Blaziken is a starter, Deoxy is a event given pokemon. . .both their titles have a history of being pokeballed but they are the most wanted out-side of Japan so we don't know. Sakurai might just replace Pichu with P&M, add Blaziken/ Deoxy (as a replacement for M2) and Lucario for a 6 pokemon selection.

I can see that happening. . .

 

[MikaRabidKitsune]

I say NO.

They're just Red and Blue versions of Pichu....

If it's gonna be any more Pika-things it shouold the only cool one, RAICHU.

But personally I think there is enough Pokemon as it is.

 

[xianfeng]

Mewtwo won't be replaced and Sakurai knows Pichu was hated here, he wouldn't be stupid enough to add two Pichus.

 

[MikaRabidKitsune]

Mewtwo won't be replaced and Sakurai knows Pichu was hated here, he wouldn't be stupid enough to add two Pichus.

Yes indeed. And I find that we agree once more, young Skywalker.

 

[Black/Light]

Mewtwo won't be replaced and Sakurai knows Pichu was hated here, he wouldn't be stupid enough to add two Pichus.

(If M2 stays than I say no to Deoxy. . .)
Who else I ask you? Who else?
We really don't have any idle what pokemon are going to be chosen this time around and we can all see that P&M are huge in Japan well the 2 other most wanted pokemon out-side Japan both have alot of things for and against them getting in(Blaze/ Deoxy). I wouldn't put it past him to choose them as Pichu replacements (they ARE unique even if their Pika rips), Lucario as newest gen rep and another 4th gen pokemon. . .

We just have no idle what they will do when it come to this series.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Great,we take out one crappy rat and put 2 of the same rat that are homosexual,that's great,WAY better than the other 392 Pokemon.

What have you people come to?? I'm sick of puny/crappy pokemon,give us something good.Like Rukario(Lucario).

 

[Stryks]

if sakurai adds another cute pokemon im gonna get very pissed even if he adds mach rider, ridley, wolf or megaman, I rather have the hammer bros as a duo than the pikachu wannabes...

 

[Yellow Mage]

*Has an anuerism cuased by the number of uneducated noobs*

*Recovers from anuerism eventually*

*Meditates*

*Posts*

Plusle and Minun are NOTHING like Pikachu OR EVEN PICHU.

The way Plusle and Minun work is like a battery. They help each other out with certain tasks, usually requiring electrical power. Power flows from the Plus pokemon Plusle to the Minus Pokemon Minun, thus increasing Minun's electrical power. Conversely, Minun can choose to give power to Plusle, increasing the Positive electrical power. Both easily develop a strong sense of teamwork and synchronization, and are all the better when one is even close to the other.

The benefits of teamwork are universal, but are most pronounciated with the incarnations of polaric Positive and Negative working together for the same cause.

What do you get if you gather a bunch of Pikachu/Pichu in the same spot? Just a random of thunderstorm of chaos, and usually somebody gets hurt, in the case of Pichu, especially. Harnessing pure electricity, both positive and negative, all within one being, one life force, it can be chaotic, and hard to control for one so young: ispo ergo Pichu.

As he grows and develops, he learns to harness this electrical gift of his, although he recives no polar benefit and only the trait of static. As electrical powers become easier for an older Pichu, he grows, develops, and overall, evolves. He reaches the stage of his life Pikachu.

Now, Pikachu represents your basic knowledge of control of power. He can harness it without hurting himself much anymore, but it is still contained: limited. A Pikachu may choose not to immediately break the limit, and instead, work about manipulating it. That being said, the border, or limit of all that electrical power from being set free is the now still timid Pikachu himself. So with great skill in manipulating his limit, his body, he learns all the speed attacks that most electric types are notorious for. When fate chooses to intervene, and two magnetic lay lines form a nexus of power, a Pikachu may be given the opportunity to make a one-way decision, for at that location, the Pikachu comes across a Thunderstone.

The Thunderstone offers itself to break Pikachu's limit, and unleash all the monstrous electircity within, to unchain any restraints of shyness the Pikachu once had; it offers the Pikachu the chance at a limit break, an evolution, a chance to be the Thunderstorm unleashed: the chance to become a Raichu.

There's two poetic stories for you so you can HOPEFULLY know the difference between the growth of a Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu, and the teamwork of a Plusle and his buddy Minun.

Take note the above are just stories and are used mainly to contrast Plusle & Minun, and Pichu, Pikachu, and Raichu. Some of the stuff was made up on the spot, but the general idea of the contrast stands true.

 

[MikaRabidKitsune]

*Has an anuerism cuased by the number of uneducated noobs*

*Recovers from anuerism eventually*

*Meditates*

*Posts*

Plusle and Minun are NOTHING like Pikachu OR EVEN PICHU.

The way Plusle and Minun work is like a battery. They help each other out with certain tasks, usually requiring electrical power. Power flows from the Plus pokemon Plusle to the Minus Pokemon Minun, thus increasing Minun's electrical power. Conversely, Minun can choose to give power to Plusle, increasing the Positive electrical power. Both easily develop a strong sense of teamwork and synchronization, and are all the better when one is even close to the other.

The benefits of teamwork are universal, but are most pronounciated with the incarnations of polaric Positive and Negative working together for the same cause.

What do you get if you gather a bunch of Pikachu/Pichu in the same spot? Just a random of thunderstorm of chaos, and usually somebody gets hurt, in the case of Pichu, especially. Harnessing pure electricity, both positive and negative, all within one being, one life force, it can be chaotic, and hard to control for one so young: ispo ergo Pichu.

As he grows and develops, he learns to harness this electrical gift of his, although he recives no polar benefit and only the trait of static. As electrical powers become easier for an older Pichu, he grows, develops, and overall, evolves. He reaches the stage of his life Pikachu.

Now, Pikachu represents your basic knowledge of control of power. He can harness it without hurting himself much anymore, but it is still contained: limited. A Pikachu may choose not to immediately break the limit, and instead, work about manipulating it. That being said, the border, or limit of all that electrical power from being set free is the now still timid Pikachu himself. So with great skill in manipulating his limit, his body, he learns all the speed attacks that most electric types are notorious for. When fate chooses to intervene, and two magnetic lay lines form a nexus of power, a Pikachu may be given the opportunity to make a one-way decision, for at that location, the Pikachu comes across a Thunderstone.

The Thunderstone offers itself to break Pikachu's limit, and unleash all the monstrous electircity within, to unchain any restraints of shyness the Pikachu once had; it offers the Pikachu the chance at a limit break, an evolution, a chance to be the Thunderstorm unleashed: the chance to become a Raichu.

There's two poetic stories for you so you can HOPEFULLY know the difference between the growth of a Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu, and the teamwork of a Plusle and his buddy Minun.

Take note the above are just stories and are used mainly to contrast Plusle & Minun, and Pichu, Pikachu, and Raichu. Some of the stuff was made up on the spot, but the general idea of the contrast stands true.

That doesn't change the fact that they are mouse/electric type pokemon. And even if they are Positive and Negative or whatever-the-heck, they still LOOK like pika-things.

Interesting info on them... but still I say no. I'd rather see something that isn't electric/pikachu look alikes.

 

[Yellow Mage]

By more technical terms, a Pokedex would define the Pokemon as such.

Minun - MINUS Pokemon
Pichu - Tiny Mouse Pokemon
Pikachu - Mouse Pokemon
Plusle - PLUS Pokemon
Raichu - Mouse Pokemon

So, on technical terms within thier own game, Plusle & Minun are technically not even mice!

Besides, I don't see what you have against them anyway.

And if you REALLY want to see something that doesn't even look REMOTELY the part, it is as simple as looking at a different part of the charactor selection screen! That's what is so great about Super Smash Borthers in the first place!

But thanks for your calm response, anyways .

 

[pirkid]

I would rather have Kyogre and Grondon then the Plusle/Minun duo.
Electric mice are over-rated.

 

[Yellow Mage]

Plusle & Minun are technically not even mice!

I would rather have Kyogre and Grondon then the Plusle/Minun duo.
Electric mice are over-rated.

You neither pay attention well nor have good spelling.

Kyogre wouldn't fit: period. Which would make GROUDON's presense, albeit possible, an even bigger stretch.

 

[MikaRabidKitsune]

By more technical terms, a Pokedex would define the Pokemon as such.

Minun - MINUS Pokemon
Pichu - Tiny Mouse Pokemon
Pikachu - Mouse Pokemon
Plusle - PLUS Pokemon
Raichu - Mouse Pokemon

So, on technical terms within thier own game, Plusle & Minun are technically not even mice!

Besides, I don't see what you have against them anyway.

And if you REALLY want to see something that doesn't even look REMOTELY the part, it is as simple as looking at a different part of the charactor selection screen! That's what is so great about Super Smash Borthers in the first place!

But thanks for your calm response, anyways .

They still are pika-chu knock-offs meant to feed the young minds of children. "WoW! It's more pikachus" as I heard three kids say in the game store I work at.

Techicallity doesn't work for what they actually are.

I don't have anything "against them" to say. I am just tried of only Pikachu look alikes being the only other pokemon in Smash besides Jiggypuff and Mewtwo.

So no, hun. I'm not sending you a flame storm of hate. Just saying I want some variety, that's all. Ok? ^^

 

[Black/Light]

*Has an anuerism cuased by the number of uneducated noobs*

*Recovers from anuerism eventually*

*Meditates*

*Posts*

Plusle and Minun are NOTHING like Pikachu OR EVEN PICHU.

The way Plusle and Minun work is like a battery. They help each other out with certain tasks, usually requiring electrical power. Power flows from the Plus pokemon Plusle to the Minus Pokemon Minun, thus increasing Minun's electrical power. Conversely, Minun can choose to give power to Plusle, increasing the Positive electrical power. Both easily develop a strong sense of teamwork and synchronization, and are all the better when one is even close to the other.

The benefits of teamwork are universal, but are most pronounciated with the incarnations of polaric Positive and Negative working together for the same cause.

What do you get if you gather a bunch of Pikachu/Pichu in the same spot? Just a random of thunderstorm of chaos, and usually somebody gets hurt, in the case of Pichu, especially. Harnessing pure electricity, both positive and negative, all within one being, one life force, it can be chaotic, and hard to control for one so young: ispo ergo Pichu.

As he grows and develops, he learns to harness this electrical gift of his, although he recives no polar benefit and only the trait of static. As electrical powers become easier for an older Pichu, he grows, develops, and overall, evolves. He reaches the stage of his life Pikachu.

Now, Pikachu represents your basic knowledge of control of power. He can harness it without hurting himself much anymore, but it is still contained: limited. A Pikachu may choose not to immediately break the limit, and instead, work about manipulating it. That being said, the border, or limit of all that electrical power from being set free is the now still timid Pikachu himself. So with great skill in manipulating his limit, his body, he learns all the speed attacks that most electric types are notorious for. When fate chooses to intervene, and two magnetic lay lines form a nexus of power, a Pikachu may be given the opportunity to make a one-way decision, for at that location, the Pikachu comes across a Thunderstone.

The Thunderstone offers itself to break Pikachu's limit, and unleash all the monstrous electircity within, to unchain any restraints of shyness the Pikachu once had; it offers the Pikachu the chance at a limit break, an evolution, a chance to be the Thunderstorm unleashed: the chance to become a Raichu.

There's two poetic stories for you so you can HOPEFULLY know the difference between the growth of a Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu, and the teamwork of a Plusle and his buddy Minun.

Take note the above are just stories and are used mainly to contrast Plusle & Minun, and Pichu, Pikachu, and Raichu. Some of the stuff was made up on the spot, but the general idea of the contrast stands true.

Wow, thats was a great lil story break down of them (^_^).
Im OK with them if they come in as a Pichu replacement (A Japan chosen pokemon team seeing as Japan loves them like they loved Pichu). I could really see them having a very unique move set.

You might want to try your hand at making a move-set for them to go with this story if you haven't already.

^^^They ARE a team. . . thats what they where MADE for so they would still be very different to Pika even if they are Pika rips. I say replace Pichu (a direct Pika rip) and replace him with P&M (the most unique Pika rip to date).

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

*Has an anuerism cuased by the number of uneducated noobs*

*Recovers from anuerism eventually*

*Meditates*

*Posts*

Plusle and Minun are NOTHING like Pikachu OR EVEN PICHU.

YOU,of all people calling us uneducated noobs mr. wants 50% of the SSBM cast removed because hence character wasn't playable,and also want's all of the glitches that made smash great removed like L-cancel,WD,and the shine.

The way Plusle and Minun work is like a battery. They help each other out with certain tasks, usually requiring electrical power. Power flows from the Plus pokemon Plusle to the Minus Pokemon Minun, thus increasing Minun's electrical power. Conversely, Minun can choose to give power to Plusle, increasing the Positive electrical power. Both easily develop a strong sense of teamwork and synchronization, and are all the better when one is even close to the other.

The benefits of teamwork are universal, but are most pronounciated with the incarnations of polaric Positive and Negative working together for the same cause.

What do you get if you gather a bunch of Pikachu/Pichu in the same spot? Just a random of thunderstorm of chaos, and usually somebody gets hurt, in the case of Pichu, especially. Harnessing pure electricity, both positive and negative, all within one being, one life force, it can be chaotic, and hard to control for one so young: ispo ergo Pichu.

As he grows and develops, he learns to harness this electrical gift of his, although he recives no polar benefit and only the trait of static. As electrical powers become easier for an older Pichu, he grows, develops, and overall, evolves. He reaches the stage of his life Pikachu.

Now, Pikachu represents your basic knowledge of control of power. He can harness it without hurting himself much anymore, but it is still contained: limited. A Pikachu may choose not to immediately break the limit, and instead, work about manipulating it. That being said, the border, or limit of all that electrical power from being set free is the now still timid Pikachu himself. So with great skill in manipulating his limit, his body, he learns all the speed attacks that most electric types are notorious for. When fate chooses to intervene, and two magnetic lay lines form a nexus of power, a Pikachu may be given the opportunity to make a one-way decision, for at that location, the Pikachu comes across a Thunderstone.

The Thunderstone offers itself to break Pikachu's limit, and unleash all the monstrous electircity within, to unchain any restraints of shyness the Pikachu once had; it offers the Pikachu the chance at a limit break, an evolution, a chance to be the Thunderstorm unleashed: the chance to become a Raichu.

There's two poetic stories for you so you can HOPEFULLY know the difference between the growth of a Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu, and the teamwork of a Plusle and his buddy Minun.

Take note the above are just stories and are used mainly to contrast Plusle & Minun, and Pichu, Pikachu, and Raichu. Some of the stuff was made up on the spot, but the general idea of the contrast stands true.

And guess what,that all means nothing because they are still:

1.Electric Type

2.Rats

3.Same Family.


Your argument fails once again.I don't care how well of a description it is,the logic of the matter is THEY ARE STILL ELECTRIC RATS!!!!!! And that's that,no other way around it,team work or not.

And i still say no more electric rats in smash except for the one we have now,and i'm not changing my mind.

 

[Yellow Mage]

YOU,of all people calling us uneducated noobs mr. wants 50% of the SSBM cast removed because hence character wasn't playable,and also want's all of the glitches that made smash great removed like L-cancel,WD,and the shine.



And guess what,that all means nothing because they are still:

1.Electric Type

2.Rats

3.Same Family.


Your argument fails once again.I don't care how well of a description it is,the logic of the matter is THEY ARE STILL ELECTRIC RATS!!!!!! And that's that,no other way around it,team work or not.

And i still say no more electric rats in smash except for the one we have now,and i'm not changing my mind.

You, my intellectual opposite, are very interesting in just that, how you always seem to OPPOSE everything I say. Why is that? What do you have against me?

 

[McFox]

Yellow Mage, no matter what you say, if we are defining

as a mouse, then by default,

and

are also mice. It's inescapable. I don't care if the game catergorizes them as "plus" and "minus" animals, because there's no such thing as a "plus." They're mice, and they're electric. They're Pichu with different markings, and they suck. This is still as terrible an idea as it was when it was first posted. There is absolutely no reason at all to add these two lame-***es to the game, and there's every reason in the world to keep them out. We have Pikachu, an electric mouse. We have Pichu, another electric mouse. There is absolutely no reason to double the number of electric mice we have now. And no matter what you say, they ARE electric mice.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

You, my intellectual opposite, are very interesting in just that, how you always seem to OPPOSE everything I say. Why is that? What do you have against me?

I have thought up a moveset:

B - Charge: Plusle and Minun Charge in a Smaus-esque fashion. Fully charged, thier next Electric-style attack has its power doubled, each.

Up B - Polaric Gymnastics: Works like the ICs Up B, but in a Quick Attack-eqsue fashion. P & M grab each others hands and start summersaulting upwards (doing damage to anybody near), then suddenly jolt in a direction determined by the control stick (massive lag makes it fairly abusable).

More to come!

If i'm your intellectual opposite,then that makes you a complete moron on the level of intellect.I don't care about your moves,you already lost to McFox,you should quit putting yourself on a pedestal and accept defeat,you are fighting a losing argument.I have nothing against you,i'm against stupidity in general,and i see alot of it coming from you direction.

Yellow Mage, no matter what you say, if we are defining

as a mouse, then by default,

and

are also mice. It's inescapable. I don't care if the game catergorizes them as "plus" and "minus" animals, because there's no such thing as a "plus." They're mice, and they're electric. They're Pichu with different markings, and they suck. This is still as terrible an idea as it was when it was first posted. There is absolutely no reason at all to add these two lame-***es to the game, and there's every reason in the world to keep them out. We have Pikachu, an electric mouse. We have Pichu, another electric mouse. There is absolutely no reason to double the number of electric mice we have now. And no matter what you say, they ARE electric mice.

Thank you,someone with common sense comes into play.These are rats,they suck,and they always will suck.End of story.