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Pikas at Genesis 2 Go! Roller/Z/Auto/Thugz/King/Leaf/Stealth/Tag/FZ/ESAM/Blash/Brick

[FBC] ESAM

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STOP ****ING PLAYING MY CHARACTERS ROLLER GOD DAMN IT

DK is so much fun, such a beast and amazing AIR DODGE READ PUNISHES!! He is basically the reason that I started stutter-step F-smashing with Pika so much, and that **** is amazing.
 

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FZ. Marth does not go even or better with all our bad matchups.






:metaknight:
:glare:

if u pay attention MK isnt one of our worst mu's, in fact, pika is a mu most mks hate to play and as u even said at one point BEFORE mks started owning u again, u were owning mks pretty hard iirc.

so no mk isnt one of our worst mus.........look at the worse ones son :marth: :olimar: :diddy:


@brick: nah i was referring to the generating a win guide, i looked at the 2ndary guide tho and marth was on there he was listed as a specialdary lol, so i appologize.

but yeah i agree that luigi is annoying cuz we cant string him with stuff, play on the ground tho with dtilt and ull find that its actually really easy lol.

also u can have fun with ur dk dittos, the hype match is me and leaf GANON DITTOS FOR DINNER. get hype cuz there will be stomps in places you never thought wuld be stomped before
 

linkisthebest123

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Uh what?

I already have 3 people who want to team with me at genesis 2.

Also I evolved into granite.
 

Tagxy

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Im going to try and get MP2 on my wii before G2
I personally think ICs are the best secondary...

They **** Oli/G&W
They go even with Lucario
They go even with Diddy (I think)
They go even with Wario (I think)

It's pretty good.
Only half of those are true, and ICs dont cover the ditto. I think Fox would make an amazing secondary, but only if you could get good with him.
 

~Radiance~

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awesome tag, i wana play some mp2 with u. also, we shld play diddy kong racing and ps1 games lol
 

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FZ, I never said it was one of our worst matchups... Even a 45-55 mu is a "bad" matchup for us. I didn't say he was awful or anything.


Also, I played Raz at Pound in Amateur bracket. He got so scared he went MK. lol, didn't help.

Alsoalso, Yo ESAM, I've been playing pika since the game came out and ICs longer. YOU stop stealing MY characters. But real talk, I've got some ideas for the next one we should use though. ;)
 

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heres the fax tho roller, u dont have to work as hard to beat all of pikas bad mus with marth as oppossed to other alts we have. sure marth dosent go well vs mk, but pika does fine. marth beats all of the bad slash annoying mus or goes even with them, PLUS he beats or goes even with the ones we just hate to play that arent that bad but are just annoying i.e ics, luigi, wario
 

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I thought I acknowledged that Marth was a good choice? If I didn't, then yes, Marth is a good secondary for pika. I just think MK is as well. That's all I ever said. I wasn't arguing with you.
 

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prob not, i just like to argue lol

and duh mks a better choice, its like saying you can have rootbeer or pepsi when OBVIOUSLY rootbeer is a much better choice

:troll:
 

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Who here other than ESAM actually believes they can beat a Marth that actually knows what they're doing in the matchup? Because while I don't think it is our worst mu, I certainly don't believe it is even. Sure I can beat avg Marths just fine; but if you give me somebody who is actually aware of how to play Marth and the mu well, then I am not beating them with pika.

The only reason ESAM is able to take out great Marths is because he is better skill wise than they are. I'm not saying any of this is fact, and I could certainly change my views on this over time, but as of now, that is my opinion on the matter. Feel free to disagree.
 

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He is basically the reason that I started stutter-step F-smashing with Pika so much, and that **** is amazing.
Late to the party, kid.

Who here other than ESAM actually believes they can beat a Marth that actually knows what they're doing in the matchup? Because while I don't think it is our worst mu, I certainly don't believe it is even. Sure I can beat avg Marths just fine; but if you give me somebody who is actually aware of how to play Marth and the mu well, then I am not beating them with pika.

The only reason ESAM is able to take out great Marths is because he is better skill wise than they are. I'm not saying any of this is fact, and I could certainly change my views on this over time, but as of now, that is my opinion on the matter. Feel free to disagree.
No, it's even because ESAM said it's even. >=(
 

linkisthebest123

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I've taken matches off of Havok's marth. Every game I've played against his marth is last stock last hit.

Although these are mm's, not tourny matches.
 

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marth vs pika is not even........its def one of our worst MU's. who here besides prime and esam has actually played a GOOD marth main, and i mean a main not an alt or whatever. havoks marth is not the same cuz hes a snake mk main, i wana know whos played a ranked marth and won besides esam. i still think marth is our worst mu, i wana play some pikas with my marth at g2 as well, my pikas ok still but my marth is much better imo and i wana see how i do.

idk, i feel olimar is our hardest mu but that cld just be me. i dont see diddy as being hard but im also obsessed with our glide toss lol.
 

Tagxy

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Havoks Marth beat ally.

I could see the MU being even, Im not really sure myself. Theres not very many good marths or pikachus so its a hard to say, but Pikachu has a good history vs the ones that are around.
 

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so then if pikas do better vs marths in general is it a lack of their knowledge of pika, or is it our excessive knowledge and fear of the marth mu?

in that case do we have any other suggestions as to WHO is our absolute worst mu then? im all for saying its someone else as long as we have support. marth is hard but i really feel oli is much much harder.
 
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