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What exactly does this mean? Like how does this affect Pika now? Trying to see what the purpose of it was.Over on reddit, they say it's confirmed that Pikachu's ledge grab time was increased by 12 frames, if that's what you're referring to.
So that could affect ledge trumping? (I don't do it that much as is though)You can't get off the ledge as fast as Pikachu used to. Now he has to hang on the ledge for 12 more frames (Which equals the time all other characters need to stay on the ledge). You won't be able to ledgehop as quickly, etc.
My thoughts exactly, I do uair and fair a lot as ledge mixups, wondering if these will be less effectiveIndeed Heavy skull bash is the same which, in my eyes, is a buff.
Regarding the 12 frames added to ledge grabs, it is not insignificant. falling Uair and Fair onto the stage were great options to use when it came to ledge mixups, and now these options have less impact.
Are the throw distances actually changed or are you perceiving it this way? In the case of Uthrow, less distance could effect the timing of the Uthrow Dspecial thunder combo. :oIt feels like fthrow sends them further away, uthrow doesn't send them as far, and heavy skull bash isn't as strong. someone please tell me I'm wrong.
So Bair and all that are the same too after all?The damage and knockback on all of Pikachu's moves are the same. The only known change is the ledge thing.
Yes, everything on there is the same.So Bair and all that are the same too after all?
This data is all the same?
http://smashboards.com/threads/pikachu-1-0-4-changes-complete.378398/